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SMS program

Hi Folks,
This is my first post, although I've owned my XDAIIs for several weeks and I've ROM'd it to the iMATE 1.4 ROM. So I've had a good play.
I was looking at smsOrganizer (from Jeyo) which is badly supported (and it ain't free) and I wondered why I (we) couldn't write something to do the same thing, for free.
Is there a forum for this kind of activity, or could someone point me in the direction of some exmples of how to pass data between the PC and phone?
Best regards
AndrwB

Andrew, look into RAPI: eg here
http://msdn.microsoft.com/archive/default.asp?url=/archive/en-us/dnarppc2k/html/ppc_teapppi.asp
Development and Hacking is the right place for this kind of query...what do you want the app to do?
V

Hi V,
Basically I want to control the SMS message transfer on my XDA from Outlook, just like smsOrganizer.
Re. your link, I think we've got those? but I generally write embedded C, non of this fancy C++ stuff :-((
AndrewB

Hi V,
I just tried this :
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307256
And I can now copy files to and from my device
Not bad for 1 hours playing, specially as I've fixed 2 work related bugs too )
Andrew B

Good stuff.
I'm just learning C++ actually, I never learnt C, coming from self-taught VB on the PC.
RAPI is the way to do most PC<>PDA communications, although right now I'm only just getting into sms stuff. It'd be easy enough (I think) to write an interface to create an SMS on the PC in text, transmit that to the PDA and then SMS it off, but the backend of it would require some implementation.
Keep us posted though!
V

99% of c programs should compile and work just fine on
c++ compilers and you can write c++ programs without using
oop in which case they are pretty much c programs

From what I've read it looks as if you need to write an app to sit on the device and another app on the main PC. The app on the phone just acts as an agent passing data between the sms services and the PC.
Anybody got any ideas?
AndrewB

Yipeeeee
I can now write a DLL that sits on the device and I can write a C++ application on my PC to communicate with it
Now to start reading some text messages from the device to the PC......

Does anybody know agood way to send and recieve SMS ?? I would also like to edit the text and pass it to an Edit Box.
I am not too sure about the available API's that will let me do this.
Please HELP :shock:

Hey , i would like to send and recieve SMS on my xda2. Also pass the recieved message into an Edit Control. Does anybody know a good way to do this ??
I know about the SMS API but i am unaware of others. Pleas Help !! thnkx

SMS Auto sending
Hi everybody,
Is there a way to auto send all sms in draft? Basically, every sms in draft folder needs to be send one by one by ticking send button.

OK,
I can now send a text message from my PC to a DLL on my phone using RAPI, then send a SMS using MAPI.
The trouble is I can't get the subject and body fields to display correctly on my XDAIIs. Also I can't get the Name to appear instead of the number.
I'll try to post the code later on the understanding that it is FREE and we pool our experiences/knowledge.

Here is the code for the DLL and the PC program. Just press one of the keys on the tol bar to send the message. The number and message are hard coded.
There are ABSOLUTELY NO guarentees with this code, use it at you own risk.

can it recieve SMS as well ?? Has any body thought about other API's to use for sending and recieving SMS's maybe ?

Well.... Not yet.
This is my first ever .net VC++ program !!!!
There are lots of code snipets around but no full source code.
This is a work in progress project hence it is in the "Development and Hacking" fourm.
If you'd like to add some functionality to it......

I am asking because there seems to be a problem when trying to recieve SMS with SMS api as the HANDLE is already attributed to the messaging application (inbox/draft/outbox).
I believe you are using RAPI ? However i do not understand this API that well could u specify a bit more ?
Thanks for your help.

Hi nutitija,
I'm only using the RAPI function to pass parameters from my PC to the XDA. The actual sending of messages is done using the MAPI in the XDA.
My biggest problem is getting the subject/body and from fields to display correctly in the different XDA mail views.

devloper and hacker app of the year.. chat style sms... from the treo 750v

This app will be for all wm devices.
This is an ongoing project that is in need of some of you guys expertise. The rom of the treo 750v has been dumped and is in need of hacker and developers. The treo 750v has features that NO OTHER wm device does. Like the threaded sms messaging, which is sms in a chat style form.
http://www.palm.com/sg/products/smar...messaging.html is a little more about how it works and what it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758 is a thread in the xda-treo forum, but I feel need to be here due to the fact that it will be for all wm devices and is in need of developers and hackers.
Attached is the rom dump.
Thanks, Cody

in many countries you pay pr. sms much more then you'd pay to send text over grps so for most ppl msn, skype or other IM clients would do the same thing only much cheaper

I am really not sure what the hype is about. Haven't used SMS in a long time a with 100MB data package, I have to agree with Rudegar even the built in MSN messenger is better.
Any way I thought you should know that what you posted is not a ROM dump and cannot be used to extract the app.

Interesting you say that. If you have kids sms messaging is almost a requirement. It is extremely popular with the younger generation. I find myself using it more and more. I have friends that send over 3k sms messages in a month. A threaded sms app sure makes it a much better experience.
The rom dump thread was moved by someone over to the treo section for those wondering where it went. The dump is on the ftp server.
ftp.xda-developers.com
userid: xdaupload pw: xda
file: treo750vrompartial_bcaslis.zip (dump of Part00, Part01 and Part02 partitions)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279758

I played with the rom dump yesterday. The messaging app does load, just seems to be missing some resources and/or registry entries that I'm not prepared to import right now (test machines all being used already).
It also appears to be fixed at 240x240, although that can probably be fixed later.
The rest of the rom - doesn't contain many intersting .exes, but I know hannip is interested in a number of the other devices and drivers installed. They don't appear to be device specific (c.f. many eten files are).
In the UK, data contracts are very expensive, and you get loads of SMS bundled in your contracts, so SMS makes sense. I don't IM from my phones. But both have their uses.
But I still can't see the fascination with threaded SMS. It'd be quite straight forward to program even if the treo app can't be sucked out.
V
PS Whoever dumped the roms to begin with, many thanks!
However, we may need to get an overview of the databases on the device as well, in case there are any custom databases. The speed dial plugin that has thus far been elusive relies on a call db. Either a device backup (using sprite etc) or a database dump would be useful to check. Just a guess, might lead to nothing.

Thanks vijay for all of your assistance! Good to hear that the sms app loads. I've been trying to get the a2dp dll's to work on my treo 700wx and 700w devices just to get my feet wet. Having some issues getting the dll's to load, but with your help I might figure this out yet.
The excitement for the 750 sms app over the other threaded sms apps out there is the clean integration with the os and today screen. I've tried other sms threader apps and they are buggy, don't grab messages when the pda is suspended, and leave copies of sms messages in poutlook. The one from triangle powers is a .net app and loads extremely slow because of it. It is expected that the palm written app will solve all of these problems. Plus it handles mms pictues, audio etc.

i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother

Rudegar said:
i dont say i dont use sms i just say i use sms as sms's as in short message service msg's
not as chat because i dont see the point of using it as chat
of cause if you dont pay pr. each sms
and want to chat with somebody who dont have msn it's usefull i guess
but another issue is the delay if that person is on a different network then you heard that compeating phone companys are not always too snappy to route to eachother
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Well, I'm someone who wants the SMS chat program badly.
Understand, it's not so much that you use like an IM program, you don't.
This is just a method by which to organize your SMS conversations e.g. say you and your friend over the day send back and forth to each other 20 messages, all releated to the same thing. Now throw in 15 more random SMS from other peopel in the same day. Your inbox would be a mismash of 20 something messages (assuming you don't delete every single one, maybe there is important info you need).
This program would "group" your SMS into a single "chat style thread", like and IM history would. You can then just delete the entire thread at once when you are done with it. It's also nice to keep that previous information handy, especially if your discussing plans, information, phone numbers etc. You just scroll up to find it again.
If you're a heavy texter, this is a great way to organize your back-and-forth conversations. It's not an IM replacment, so don't think of it as that.

In my case I use it as a compliment to AIM. I have AIM forwarding all of my IM's to my cell phone when I am away. That way my friends and family can msgs me anytime anywhere. My phone/pda can remain in suspend mode conserving the battery and I still get my IM's. I can reply to them just like an IM session. No need for the AIM client on my phone.
The best thing about using sms over an IM client is that you can communicate with anyone that has a cell phone. You don't have to tell someone to register with an IM server to send them messages. It works in suspend mode. With a nice sms chat app the only advantage an IM client has over it is the messages are more instantaneous. But for phone use that is acceptable imo.
Of course this all assumes you don't have to pay on a per sms basis.

Hi! theloanranger said he extracted the 750v threaded app already. It's at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1035112&posted=1#post1035112
Can somebody try it and post the screenshots please? I'm so looking forward to using it with my Pocket Loox T830 (not arrived yet)

Screenshots/Need some help!
Screenshots are found here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1106882&postcount=15
NOTE: Some of us are having issues. We CANNOT send an SMS to an email address. We get an error message:
"Could not send message. The message center number or the email center number is invalid. Please contact the wireless operator."
Now, in the SMS app, if you go to Menu --> Options --> Advanced tab
Network Configuration/Manual/Edit...
You'll see spots for "message center number" and "email center number" and both are blank. When you put in a number (such as found here: http://www.smsfre.com/SMS-Mesaging-Centers.htm ) they do not stick after hitting "OK".
Any help/ideas?

Read and write messages on the PC through USB/Bluetooth

Hey
I have been searching for an application to install on my PC so that I can read and write text messages (SMS) on my Diamond when it is connected to the PC. How it should be connected is not really important but preferably by USB if possible.
In other words: A kind of message control center where you can manage your messages when you are at your PC anyways.
Any tips for such a utility?
Thanks in advance
M

YUp, I have this kind apps for china phone..MITO / COOLPAD ..it help a lot..so when you facing your laptop, while your diamond attach to it..you can send/received messeges (SMS). It really helps..!!
Thanks

I can really recommend Jeyo Mobile Extender that integrates with Outlook. You get an extra SMS folder and menu buttons for send/recieve, forward, manage sms on device.
http://www.jeyo.com/extender.asp

Thanks Blanco, but I don't think that will work for me.
First of all it is not free to use. Only for 15 days. Maybe I should have mentioned that but of course it needs to be freeware
Second of all I would prefer it if it wasn't a plugin for Outlook. I don't use Outlook and don't want to use it, so I really can't use that sort a thing.
But again thanks anyways
Any other ideas?

Try MyMobiler.
When the device is connected, you can use it with your Computer.

[App Request] SMS/MMS Hide function

Hey guys and girls,
Ive got a Samsung Omnia (please no booing ) and I need an application to hide text and or mms messages. I work overseas from time to time with my business and my wife and I swap MMS and text messages to each other while I am away. Having a new phone means everyone wants to check it out and i certainly do not want anyone stumbling across any MMS or text messages my wife has sent me ;-)
I have already well and truly searched this forum and the only software I can find is by evolvens and it doesn work.
Im sure it couldnt be to hard for someone to code a little piece of software to hide sms or mms depending on who sent it?
Sorry if ive posted in the wrong section, id be willing to pay for the right app and im sure many others would as well.
Cheers
Dave

hey, i ran into a problem in my last relationship where i ended up dating 2 chicks... so i had their sms' saved using ez secret sms 2.0. basically, you can set it up to run in the background, and you set certain contacts to be received in this program instead of outlook. the program can be named anything you want. so i named it something boring like system priority. you click it, and it brings up a calculator. you put in the code you specified, and hit ok... and it opens your "secret inbox." you can also set it to notify you in some way that you received a text from whoever. i set it as "islanders won!" for one chick, and "rangers lost!" for the other... pretty simple program to use, and it works fairly well.
if you want to hide just the pics, you could always just save the pics and encrypt the folder using resco explorer with a password or something. but if you really want to save the actual sms, this program worked fairly well for me.

I agree - SMS Security is great - I use it on my Diamond with no problems
I don't think it willl work with MMS though. As the post above - save the image from your MMS into your main files in a private folder. Call that folder something odd and I'm sure you friends won't open it. If you really want to protect the images, you can lock just that file with Resco or I use VisCrypt

Thanks hays and ou2mame for your input, I will try ez secret sms,
hays is this the same program you use on your diamond?
Thanks again guys

waverdr said:
Thanks hays and ou2mame for your input, I will try ez secret sms,
hays is this the same program you use on your diamond?
Thanks again guys
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Yes it is. It works 100%
It is easy to switch it on and off reverting back to normal diamond SMS
I've emailed the author to suggest a few minor tweaks and will report back

Help needed on software issues

1) I’m using SPB Pocket Plus, Phone Suite & Diary. Will SPB shell take up more footprint den this combination? (dun wanna have a laggy device).
2) When an email comes in & I tap on the ‘notification’ softkey, I’ll get an error msg – “An error has occurred with shell32.exe”. I’ve sent my TP2 back to HTC for firmware upgrade, but the problem still exists.
3) When a sms comes in, I have to manually go into the sms & go thru it, then it’ll be cleared & not reflect as an “unread sms”. Clicking on the ‘sms notification’ icon on my SPB phone suite, will open up the history of all the sms-es but I still have to go thru it just to clear the unread notice. Is there any short cuts/ registry tweaks to clear the unread notice without having to open up every single unread sms?
4) I cannot copy text inside my sms. I’ve to enable “select text” before I can copy text. Is there any registry tweak I can do to make it permanent? Cos its very troublesome having to enable "select text" each time.
5) I can’t copy text in my msn, any way to go abt it?
6) Does speedbooster work to speed up the switching of the screen & overall speed of applications?
7) I cannot see “tmail.exe” on my task manager, how do I go abt finding it? Read that there's a need to disable tmail.exe before restoring sms using pimbackup to avoid “mass grouping” of my sms-es. Currently it is all grouped by the contact and me, the contact all above and mine all below, its very disrupting.
8) There’s a ‘re-sizing’ tool for Opera which will automtically “re-size the input box to fit the screen. Have tried Opera Form Fixer, but it doesn’t work… Even with the manual method prescribed in the xda link.
Anyone knows of other programs with the same function?
Greatly appreciate everyone's advise to help me with them.

Upz for help needed.

upz. .

Hi Canjoy,
Sorry for not being able to help on any of your questions and responding with a question of my own!
Are you using Pocket Plus with WM6.5 from HTC installed? I ask that question because I'm using a cooked 6.5 ROM on my Blackstone with Pocket Plus. However, all of the File Explorer extensions are broken and I was wondering whether you had that problem on your Rhodium.
SPB won't respond to queries regarding cooked ROMS so it would be helpful to know if the problem exists on a stock HTC ROM.
Thanks for your help.
Steve

Hi,
Cos I'm not on WM6.5, so can't really help you on that too. So sorry.