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Well, I've been asked by a number of people to share my working settings, that allow my O2 badged XDA2 to fully work for Orange UK, so here goes. Hope it helps and works for you, and any errors etc, I will reply to, and thus this thread should become a fairly exhaustive guide.
STEP 1
The first step is to go into Start > Settings > Connections, and then click on the Connections icon itself.
You should then see a screen, with two main sections, relating to "MY ISP", and lower down, "My Work Network" (don't panic if it says "MMS Network for the lower one - this can be changed by going into the Advanced tab on the lower part of the screen, and choosing from a drop down list).
Start with the "My ISP" section, by clicking on the "Manage existing connections" link.
This will bring a screen up with the existing O2 settings listed. Now this is where you have a choice... You can either set up the orange settings as a NEW set, or you can just EDIT the existing O2 settings to change them to Orange. My instructions are based on a NEW set, which I feel is safer.
So... Click on the word "NEW" and we will work through it.
Firstly, call the connection name "Orange GPRS" without the quotes.
In the "Select a modem" drop down, choose "Cellular Line (GPRS)" <don't miss the GPRS bit there!>
Then we need to click on the "Next" button.
The access point name is "orangeinternet" with no quotes or spaces.
Then click "NEXT" again.
The username, password, domain, can all be left blank, but we need to click the "ADVANCED" button now...
We do not need to alter the TCP/IP settings, but we DO need to alter the Servers, so click on the "SERVERS" tab at the bottom.
Next, click the "Use Specific Server Address" radio button (the second of the two).
And enter the following details:
DNS: 158.43.192.1
Alt DNS: 158.43.128.1
Then click OK, to take you back to the last screen.
And at this point, you can click "FINISH" to create the settings. Well done so far. And then click the OK circle in the top corner, to come out of the "My ISP" settings.
STEP 2
You should now be at the Connections screen, with "My ISP", and "My Work Network" showing. Now we need to click on the "manage existing connections" link under "MY WORK NETWORK" this time, as we have already done the "My ISP" one.
So, click the lower one, "Manage existing connections" and we'll work through this...
A screen will pop up, with the existing O2 WAP network settings shown.
Again, I find it best to create a NEW connection, so click that button now.
Give the connection the name "Orange CSD WAP" (this is the older style dial up one we are doing first, GPRS WAP comes next).
For the modem type, choose "Cellular Line" this time (NOT the gprs version - just simple Cellular Line).
Then. click the "NEXT" button.
Enter the number as "+447973100500" without the quotes, and then click "NEXT"
Right, things get a bit iffy here, because of course, when I went to see what my settings were, the password was asterisked out ****
I THINK I know what it is though, and it seems to both fit and work, so go with my suggestion, but if anyone knows any different, please post it here.
The username is "Orange" without quotes, but I think with a capital O.
The password is "orangemultimedia" all one word, no spaces or caps or quotes - it seems to work for me for MMS (coming later) however, but I never bother with CSD WAP, so haven't put it to a full test.
The Domain can be left blank.
We don't need enter anything more, or any advanced settings, so just click on "FINISH" to complete setting up the older style CSD WAP settings.
We should now be back to the "My work Settings" screen, with your new settings also listed. We need to set up the more usual GPRS WAP now though, so once again, click the "NEW" button to set a new lot up.
Give the connection the name "Orange GPRS WAP" so it's easy to identify, and for modem type choose "Cellular Line (GPRS)" - note the gprs IS chosen this time. Then click the "NEXT" button.
The access point name is "orangewap" all one word without the quotes. Then click "NEXT".
There are no username, passwords, or domain settings to enter, nor any DNS etc, so you can now simply click on "FINISH" to save these settings.
Then you can click the "OK" circle in the corner, to exit the work settings screen.
We are now back to the Connections screen, with "My ISP", and "My Work Network" shown.
We need to set up MMS now, but the screen only shows two connections, so we need to click on the "ADVANCED" tab at the bottom now.
A couple of buttons will now appear, including one that says "SELECT NETWORKS", so click on that now.
Two drop down menus should then appear, and the bottom one will be the "My Work Network" connection. Click on this, to choose instead, "MMS Network", and then click the "EDIT" button to continue.
Now you should see the fairly familiar settings screen, but this time with the O2 settings for MMS or O2 WAP listed.
Click the "NEW" button to continue.
Call the new connection "Orange MMS" without quotes, and the modem type is again "Cellular Line (GPRS)". Then click "NEXT".
The access point name is "orangemms" without spaces or quotes. And then again, click "NEXT".
The username is "Orange", the password I THINK is again "orangemultimedia" all one word, no quotes (if anyone knows different post here, but it seems to work for me).
Once this is entered, there are no advanced settings to configure, so simply click the "FINISH" button to continue on.
You should then be dropped back to the list of MMS settings. Make sure at this point that the new "Orange MMS" item is the one that has the radio button checked.
Now just click the round "OK" button in the corner to continue.
You will be back to the Network Management screen with the two drop down boxes. It is VERY important it seems, at this point, to make sure that for the lower box, you change the drop down item back to "My Work Network" before continuing - so make sure you choose that now for the lower box, and then click the round "OK" button in the corner.
You will then be back to the Connections screen, but on the advanced tab, so click the "TASKS" tab instead to get back to the usual screen, where "MY ISP" should be the top set of options/links, and "My Work Network" should be the lower set.
Go into "Manage existing connections" for each one, respectively, just to check that the radio button is ticked for the ORANGE settings, and not the old O2 ones, for each of these (MY ISP, then My Work Network). (NOTE - Sometimes, for a pass-thru connection using ActiveSync, I find that the option "Auto Pick" needs to be the one checked, so remember where it is now, in case you need come back to it in future).
Once you have made sure it is using the new ORANGE settings for each that you have just created (use the GPRS WAP, not the CSD WAP, for the Work Network connection), then click "OK", "OK", and then the X to come out of this, and back to the Today Screen. At this point we are nearly finished (thank the lord), but we have one last thing to set up, and this is the killer, hidden away and oft forgot about...
STEP 3
Now we need to finally configure an intricate setting within MMS, for it to work properly. To do this, click on the Today screen, to create or view your MMS messages, simply to get the MMS editor to open up.
Once you are within the MMS editor itself, there should be two menu items on the bottom of the screen - NEW, and TOOLS.
Click Tools > Options now.
This will bring you into the Options interface, but on the PREFERENCES tab. We need the "SERVERS" tab, so click on that, at the bottom, now.
There should be only one item, the O2 settings, then listed. I don't know any way to ADD a NEW set, so instead we just click/press on the O2 settings one, to go into that, and make the changes to this set.
Firstly, call the server name "Orange MMS" without the quotes.
The gateway address is vital. It is: 192.168.224.10
Finally, the server address is "http://mms.orange.co.uk/" without the quotes.
Click on "OK" and this will drop you back to the Options screen. Now click on the PREFERENCES tab.
Now we can set this up properly.
"Connect via" should be changed, or read "MMS Network" form the drop down list.
"Connect to server" should be changed, or read, so that it is now the new "Orange MMS" settings.
Retrieve messages immediately should be ticked.
Sending limitations should be 40K I am told (though this seems strange for video messaging).
Depending on whether you have the newest ROM upgrade or not, if you have the new, there will only be one item to change to 40K. If you have an older ROM, you need to set 40K for both the SEND, and the RECEIVE limit.
No. of attempts before aborting seems to be a matter of choice - I tend to use "1" for the option here.
On newer ROMS there is also a box for "Download on home network only". If you tick this, it means you WON'T receive MMS when roaming. I seem to recall before my upgrade last night that this item is not there on older ROMS.
Once you have set this up, click the "OK" circle, then the X to come out of the MMS Editor, back to the Today screen.
And WELL DONE - you are finished.
Try connecting to the Internet on your XDA2, and check that it 'dials' an Orange GPRS connection.
Then try sending and receiving an MMS. And then finally, make sure you have an ActiveSync pass-thru to the internet when the XDA2 is docked on the cradle too.
All being well, you should have a fully functioning XDA2, but using the Orange network to go with your SIM (assuming of course you unlocked it).
I hope this post has been useful (if not very lengthy), and any feedback or amendments, or questions, please post below - though I can't be held liable for any issues that result from it!
I should add that Orange SMS centre number, and Voicemail number, is automatically retrieved from the Netowrk when you have an Orange SIM in.
If you have any problems though, click Start > Settings > Phone, and then the Services tab.
There you can alter the usual stuff like call bariing etc, BUT, if you click the "Get Settings" button, it should retrieve the SMS centre, and voicemail number automatically.
If I have missed anything, just give me a yell...
Cheers
Shadamehr
Thanks very much for the info
I have printed it off and will set up xda
as soon as possible, will let you know how it goes
Thanks again
Bryan whitby
thanks
Thanks alot man
No problem guys - but please let me know if they work, or what problems you are having.
Many, many thanks!
Just done everything you've said and it all works fine.
Thank you very much.
Further to the stage 3 mms instructions
I have just upgraded to the latest ROM version ( v1.60.50 - download from http://www.xda-2.co.uk/downloads/xda2_upgrade.html). It don't know if it's because of the upgrade but:
When you are on the Tools>Options>Servers tab, if you click/press and hold on the O2 settings a menu appears with an option to set up a new set. I have done this and put in the details you specify. When you are back on the Options screen you can then choose the new set of server settings from a drop-down on the Connect to Server box.
I hope this is a small but useful addition to your instructions.
Cheers,
Grimsacre
AHA!!!!
Nice one Grimsacre.
My post was first wrote not long after i had first got my XDA2, so I didn't know much about the tapping and holding option.
But still, even now however, I had not noticed you could do that - well spotted.
So folks, what Grimsacre is saying, is that if you DON'T want to delete the existing O2 MMS server settings (this is within the MMS application itself, in the Tools, Options menu), then if you tap and HOLD on the existing O2 settings you will find as you work through my guide, you will get the option to create a NEW additional set for Orange.
Me personally, I tend to prefer to get all the O2 stuff off the phone when setting it up for Orange, as a Hard reset should get the O2 stuff and settings back if ever you need them again.
But if you like to play it safe, as mentioned in my guide above, THIS bit Grimsacre has discovered will allow you to keep O2 MMS settings,whilst adding a NEW set for Orange.
Cheers again mate.
Many Thanks Shadamehr
Superb Job Shadamehr,
Many thanks. I've only had my XDA II for 4 hours now and after following one set of your instructions posts, and one email from you with advice have now got it unlocked, and all the GPRS, MMS connections with orange working 100%.
Now that's what I call Top Tips.
Your a star!!
Thanks again!!
David
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New XDA User said:
Superb Job Shadamehr,
Many thanks. I've only had my XDA II for 4 hours now and after following one set of your instructions posts, and one email from you with advice have now got it unlocked, and all the GPRS, MMS connections with orange working 100%.
Now that's what I call Top Tips.
Your a star!!
Thanks again!!
David
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Not a problem at all mate.
Extra tip for you maybe?
If you download Sprite Backup, a good suggestion is to do a backup of your entire XDA2, at whatever point you feel the 'happy medium'.
By this, I mean that as soon as you get rid of the O2 interface etc, and put the Orange settings on, this could be one possibility, and it means if you need to hard reset or ROM upgrade, you can simply delete the O2 stuff and settings afterwards, Sprite Restore, and have a shiny Orange configured and clean XDA2 in no time.
But if you regularly use certain applications, it might be better to install them on the phone before setting a Restore file.
It's all about balance though - too much stuff, and it can be bloated, too little, and it means more work for you to do after a hard reset.
For me, what I do/have, is all the O2 stuff removed, including settings, the Orange settings added, RingtoneX installed, my ringtones, my contacts database as it was at the time, and my caller id photos, and set up for the caller ID app.
Then I make a save file.
That way, if I need to Hard reset, I can just delete the O2 stuff, and do a restore, and in no time have a clean Orange XDA2, but with all my photos set up for Caller ID.
Then if some contacts are out of date, I just do a sync to my pc, and they are updated, and the calendar added.
Hope this helps too.
Cheers mate.
(OHHHHH - just one thing... When doing a restore using Sprite, DON'T restore any email or sms, as this can corrupt the XDA2 to a unique way whereby you won't be notified of sms you receive, and they won't show up. - so untick the Email/Sms option).
UK OrangeWorld WAP access...
Hi Shadamehr,
I've followed your guide for setting up my XDAII to work with Orange, but I have a problem with WAP access.
I am trying to access the Orange World site by entering wsp://wap.orange.co.uk in IE. At this point it hangs for a very long time. I do get a "Connecting to Orange GPRS WAP" message.
I can access the O2 wap website - wsp://wap.o2.co.uk.
I have setting as described above, (I think!!!). I am on the latest O2 ROM.
I have "Auto Pick" joghlighted in Connections - should I just select the Orange GPRS WAP selection.
Any help would gratefully be received.
Regards,
Mike
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mike_m said:
Hi Shadamehr,
I've followed your guide for setting up my XDAII to work with Orange, but I have a problem with WAP access.
I am trying to access the Orange World site by entering wsp://wap.orange.co.uk in IE. At this point it hangs for a very long time. I do get a "Connecting to Orange GPRS WAP" message.
I can access the O2 wap website - wsp://wap.o2.co.uk.
I have setting as described above, (I think!!!). I am on the latest O2 ROM.
I have "Auto Pick" joghlighted in Connections - should I just select the Orange GPRS WAP selection.
Any help would gratefully be received.
Regards,
Mike
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Strange mate...
Just tried it, and got the same problem, even though it USED to work for me.
Additionally, I tried it out using my SPV E200, and it worked fine.
Soon as I use the same address on the XDA2 however, and it won't load.
I know the XDA2 has issues with WAP addresses, in that some say they have to be entered in the right manner (wsp etc), but I have never had problems in the past accessing the Orange World site.
Sorry I can't help more.
hi..Shadamehr..
I bought my imate from kuwait 3 months ago.. put in my orange simm in and thanx to you an dto all those who helped i can access internet and all cuz orange dont support imate.. anyway.. i have a small problem with mms.. i did everything u stated in your steps and changed the settengs in the server taps for orange mms.. but when i go back to the previuos screen where you mentioned i should choose "mms network" in the "connect via" option.. well i dont get "mms network" in the drop down menu.. this what appears in the list (MTC kuwait, My Work Network, My ISP, Work, Secure WAP Network, The WAP Network, The internet).. which one of these should i choose?
I would really appreciate your help..
Thnx in advance
Hello,
I think its the "My Work Network" if you read the instructions at the top after you do the MMS settings it says its important to select that one, hopefully that's the stage you are on.
I've pasted the bit below for you, I hope thats the relevant piece you need.
"You should then be dropped back to the list of MMS settings. Make sure at this point that the new "Orange MMS" item is the one that has the radio button checked.
Now just click the round "OK" button in the corner to continue.
You will be back to the Network Management screen with the two drop down boxes. It is VERY important it seems, at this point, to make sure that for the lower box, you change the drop down item back to "My Work Network" before continuing - so make sure you choose that now for the lower box, and then click the round "OK" button in the corner."
David
i tried all in the drop down menu including my work network.. still no luck ..
plz help
Can I clarify...
If you click the start button as it were, on the today screen, then go to Settings > Connections (tab) > Connections (icon),
Then click on ADVANCED tab, then the Select Netowrks button, can you THEN choose MMS Network from the list of items in the drop down boxes.
If you CAN, then you should also be able to select this in the MMS Application itself, and the point you say you can't choose this.
If you CAN'T see it listed however, this means there are no settings for MMS on the device, so you have missed some of the steps from my instructions earlier on...
Have a look, and let me know.
More Orange settings!
Shadamehr,
As you are the font of all knowledge re Orange I thought I'd ask you for some more advice. I've set up my xda2 to use Orange and all is working well. I'm using gprs to connect to the web.
Being a cheapskate and seeing as how I am on a monthly tariff with inclusive minutes that I generally do not use up completely, I thought that it would be handy to use the normal cellular line instead of the gprs connection. I know the connection will be slower but I will save a bit of money!
Of course I do not know the phone number, username, password etc. I've tried using the wap phone number and experimenting with different usernames and passwords but to no avail.
Any ideas, O Wise One?
Cheers,
Grimsacre
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grimsacre said:
Shadamehr,
As you are the font of all knowledge re Orange I thought I'd ask you for some more advice. I've set up my xda2 to use Orange and all is working well. I'm using gprs to connect to the web.
Being a cheapskate and seeing as how I am on a monthly tariff with inclusive minutes that I generally do not use up completely, I thought that it would be handy to use the normal cellular line instead of the gprs connection. I know the connection will be slower but I will save a bit of money!
Of course I do not know the phone number, username, password etc. I've tried using the wap phone number and experimenting with different usernames and passwords but to no avail.
Any ideas, O Wise One?
Cheers,
Grimsacre
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If you mean "how to set up old fashioned CSD WAP", then it's already covered in my post above...
Specifically:
STEP 2
You should now be at the Connections screen, with "My ISP", and "My Work Network" showing. Now we need to click on the "manage existing connections" link under "MY WORK NETWORK" this time, as we have already done the "My ISP" one.
So, click the lower one, "Manage existing connections" and we'll work through this...
A screen will pop up, with the existing O2 WAP network settings shown.
Again, I find it best to create a NEW connection, so click that button now.
Give the connection the name "Orange CSD WAP" (this is the older style dial up one we are doing first, GPRS WAP comes next).
For the modem type, choose "Cellular Line" this time (NOT the gprs version - just simple Cellular Line).
Then. click the "NEXT" button.
Enter the number as "+447973100500" without the quotes, and then click "NEXT"
Right, things get a bit iffy here, because of course, when I went to see what my settings were, the password was asterisked out ****
I THINK I know what it is though, and it seems to both fit and work, so go with my suggestion, but if anyone knows any different, please post it here.
The username is "Orange" without quotes, but I think with a capital O.
The password is "orangemultimedia" all one word, no spaces or caps or quotes - it seems to work for me for MMS (coming later) however, but I never bother with CSD WAP, so haven't put it to a full test.
The Domain can be left blank.
We don't need enter anything more, or any advanced settings, so just click on "FINISH" to complete setting up the older style CSD WAP settings.
Bear in mind, that using CSD WAP, it's meant for WAP only, and as the XDA2 browser is a full HTML based browser, you might have big issues with sites that are NOT specifically pure WAP.
And if this is NOT what you meant, can you elaborate a bit better what setting you do mean?
HTH,
Shadamehr
CSD browsing
Sorry mate, I probably wasn't too clear in my last post.
I set up CSD wap as you instructed ( thank you ). I would like to be able to use full html web browsing but using CSD rather than gprs. This would allow me to use minutes from my normal monthly contract tariff instead of paying for the add-on gprs data.
I used to use a device called a Pogo - a really good fast full web browsing device (and British!) but unfortunately the company went bust. The browsing was fast, even on a normal gsm connection, because they used a server to compress the data before sending it on to your Pogo device.
If Orange have an access number for WAP, I thought they might have a number for full browsing. What I guess I'm after is not "old fashioned CSD WAP" but rather "old fashioned CSD full html browsing".
Cheers,
Grimsacre
Oh right I see mate.
Well in that case, I'm not sure there is one. Indeed, I am not sure if I know of one for any network.
As the XDA2, a bit like a smartphone, is a bit unique in having a combined wap and html browser as one.
I'm just trying to get my head round it, and relate it to a nokia 6230 with inbuilt combined WAP and xHTML browser.
And in so doing, I've just realised that I never had cause or reason to ever use dial up 'wap' so as to be able to see if it allowed the loading up of html pages too. Mmmm.
You've got me curious now.
CSD browsing
I haven't used CSD wap either ( I set it up as you advised but have always been html browsing using gprs and have not used wap on the xda).
I have now tried to use CSD wap and have not been able to connect - I get a message telling me that my username or password is incorrect.
I had a chat with Orange support a little while back about connecting to Orangeworld wap and they gave me the same username and password as you did (ie Orange and orangemultimedia). I have another phone (Motorola v500) that connects to Orangeworld wap, using the same username and password, and that works. Strange!
Hey,
I can't seem to get WLM for Windows Mobile to work. I have searched XDA as well as HoFo, I have tried various roms (Xplore 1.1, Xplore 2.0 Beta, Faria's 'The Real Thing,' Faria's AKU3.3 WM5, and even T-Mobile's 2.26), and I have tried multiple connection changes.
I have also tried various Radio ROM's including 2.19.11, 2.25, 2.61, and 2.69.
The way I have my settings in "Settings>Connections>Advanced>Select Networks" is as follows:
1.)For the top option, I created a new network titled "WiFi." The only additional change I made to this one was to tick the box "this connection connects to the Internet," I did not tick the box for "Use Proxy."
2.)For the bottom, I also created a new network called "T-Mobile Web." For this, I added a modem (Cellular GPRS), entered an APN of wap.voicestream.com, did not add a VPN, turned Proxy on with a valid entry, and made sure the WAP and Secure WAP had valid entries.
With this setup I CAN access any website with Pocket IE and Opera 8.6x. Unfortunately, I cannot access Windows Live Messenger:
1.) Open WLM through the Program window
2.) I can either say "Sign In" on the homescreen, or go to "Cancel" and enter in my display name, but either way when I click sign in I get...
"Signing in to Messenger will add your Messenger contacts to your phone's address book. Do you wish to continue?"
3.) I say "Ok" to this, my phone notifies me that it is "Connecting to GPRS," then Windows Live states, "There's a connectivity problem. Make sure you're in an area with good phone reception and try again."
4.) I can press "Retry" as many times as I want, nothing changes.
I can also get a different error message if I click on the "Sign-in to Windows Live" from the Today screen. My phone then connects to the Internet again, then, after it successfully connects, I get, "Windows Live was unable to establish an Internet connection. Please check your Internet settings and make sure that you have access to data services under your billing plan. If you need help, please contact your mobile service provider."
I have tried removing the Live Messenger Today screen item to resolve it ( not that I thought it would work ). I have tried enabling the WiFi and that did not work. I have tried setting both Options in Settings>Connections>Advanced>Select Networks to my connection "Web," but that did not work.
I have tried in areas where I get full reception + GPRS/EDGE and I have tried in other areas, nearly one hundred miles away, where I had varying reception + GPRS/EDGE.
Any ideas?
im a beta tester for windows live mobile and can probably say without doubt its expired. mine wont connect when i new version comes out. they disable the older versions when a new build comes out. the latest build was realeased something like 2/4/07. thats how i can usually tell there is a new build available without going to the microsoft connect site, it just stops working.
try finding the latest build and you shouldnt have a problem
dolbe,
I would agree with you, but other people are using the exact same one that I have...only they are successful in connecting. Thank you for your insight, though.
I think you should change the thread name into something like "Windows Live Messenger DOESN'T Connect thru GPRS "
Good luck
hpspec said:
Hey,
I can't seem to get WLM for Windows Mobile to work. I have searched XDA as well as HoFo, I have tried various roms (Xplore 1.1, Xplore 2.0 Beta, Faria's 'The Real Thing,' Faria's AKU3.3 WM5, and even T-Mobile's 2.26), and I have tried multiple connection changes.
I have also tried various Radio ROM's including 2.19.11, 2.25, 2.61, and 2.69.
The way I have my settings in "Settings>Connections>Advanced>Select Networks" is as follows:
1.)For the top option, I created a new network titled "WiFi." The only additional change I made to this one was to tick the box "this connection connects to the Internet," I did not tick the box for "Use Proxy."
2.)For the bottom, I also created a new network called "T-Mobile Web." For this, I added a modem (Cellular GPRS), entered an APN of wap.voicestream.com, did not add a VPN, turned Proxy on with a valid entry, and made sure the WAP and Secure WAP had valid entries.
With this setup I CAN access any website with Pocket IE and Opera 8.6x. Unfortunately, I cannot access Windows Live Messenger:
1.) Open WLM through the Program window
2.) I can either say "Sign In" on the homescreen, or go to "Cancel" and enter in my display name, but either way when I click sign in I get...
"Signing in to Messenger will add your Messenger contacts to your phone's address book. Do you wish to continue?"
3.) I say "Ok" to this, my phone notifies me that it is "Connecting to GPRS," then Windows Live states, "There's a connectivity problem. Make sure you're in an area with good phone reception and try again."
4.) I can press "Retry" as many times as I want, nothing changes.
I can also get a different error message if I click on the "Sign-in to Windows Live" from the Today screen. My phone then connects to the Internet again, then, after it successfully connects, I get, "Windows Live was unable to establish an Internet connection. Please check your Internet settings and make sure that you have access to data services under your billing plan. If you need help, please contact your mobile service provider."
I have tried removing the Live Messenger Today screen item to resolve it ( not that I thought it would work ). I have tried enabling the WiFi and that did not work. I have tried setting both Options in Settings>Connections>Advanced>Select Networks to my connection "Web," but that did not work.
I have tried in areas where I get full reception + GPRS/EDGE and I have tried in other areas, nearly one hundred miles away, where I had varying reception + GPRS/EDGE.
Any ideas?
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Hi dude, i was jus wondering if u found any solution to the problem of connecting to window live as i face the same exact problem, but i also notice that trying every rom window 6, it wont connect BUT when u down grade back to window 5, there seems to be no problem in connecting to widow live mesenger. Any solution rather downgrading to window 5.
window live
manmute98 said:
Hi dude, i was jus wondering if u found any solution to the problem of connecting to window live as i face the same exact problem, but i also notice that trying every rom window 6, it wont connect BUT when u down grade back to window 5, there seems to be no problem in connecting to widow live mesenger. Any solution rather downgrading to window 5.
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Possible problem with the gprs could be reception or radio versions, the gprs data connection is slow when tray to work with internet explorer or opera,
Takes to long time to show up the www.google.com ,
I think the problem could be with the radio version or the rom,
Windows live/ email synchronisation connection solutions
Hey All,
Web browser working fine but you can't synch your e-mail account or windows live account? ... I was puzzled by this for quite a while myself before it finally clicked (I even got to a stage where I could sync my email and live account through my wireless internet but not through the mobiles own GPRS/3G)
The problem lies in the data connection that windows live account/ your email account attempts to use. The good news is that, it is usually very easy to select the right data connection for your email account to use:
1. Go through the E-mail account setup, where you enter your mail server settings. Continue to enter these as normal.
2. When you get to the "Outgoing (SMTP) mail server" page, tap "Advanced Server Settings". Under "Network Connection" you have the option to choose the data connection. This is usually set to "The Internet" as standard, but usually needs to be changed to "t-mobile internet", "vodafone internet" or whatever network connection has been setup to get your mobile connected to your providers own GPRS/3G. BINGO, your done... well most of the time.
The bad news for Windows live/ hotmail users is that they do not get the chance to select the network connection a windows live/hotmail account uses. On the very first part of the e-mail setup, as soon as you type in "[email protected], or [email protected]" , the account wizard completely takes over declaring that "settings found for hotmail.com". And even after you type in all your details you do not get to option to select the network connection to be used. (This is consequence of the fact that Microsoft Windows Mobile thinks it knows best how to configure microsoft based e-mail accounts for windows mobile.) The network connection that is automatically selected is called "The Internet". As you cannot select another network connection, you must edit "The Internet" connection so that it has the right settings for your particular mobile service provider. To do this:
1. Go to Start --> Settings --> Connections tab --> connections --> manage existing connections --> select "The Internet", and then tap "Edit".
2. Leave the name as "The Internet", but fill the rest of the boxes with the GPRS/3G settings of your individual mobile service provider.
Note: Getting these settings is relatively easy: 1.You can ask your mobile service provider. 2. You can search the web for the GPRS settings of your network. 3. If your web browser is working fine, you probably have the settings. Check under manage existing connections, and check the values used for "t-mobile internet", "vodafone internet", "orange internet", etc... and just copy them.
Enjoy,
AK
Hi AK,
could "The Internet" settings be hidden? I can't find the settings under Manage Existing Connections
This is truly a b*tch! I recently upgraded my Samsung i780 to Windows Mobile 6.1 via the free upgrade offered by Samsung (http://www.samsungmobile.com/support/i780/nr/subXb_xp.jsp) - and after that I lost my settings to make MSN work..
I remember that I spend lots of time to make it work last time aswell.. and at that time it always created two connections when I started to use MSN and check email at the same time.
After that, I used my phone on a flatrate 3G connection for almost 3 months in Asia without any trouble - it worked just great, I was emailing, using Skype, MSN, Google Map and everything flawlessly... Buut ofcourse I had to upgrade to 6.1 which I am happy about, since my phone is faster now.
Anyway.. tonight I finally got it working again; I wish I could make some kind of walkthrough.. but I can't..
What I did was to have two online configurations from my Danish telecom provider "Telenor" send to my phone by SMS (I could type in my phoneno. on their website, selecting which config I wanted); I got one for WAP called "E-GO" and I got one for Internet, called "Internet". For a while, I was using "Internet" as my default profile for everything, and it worked fine with everything except for MSN which refused to even attempt to logon.
Now I went to to Start --> Settings --> Connections tab --> connections --> manage existing connections --> and selected the "WAP" connection as my default connection instead.
Now everything suddenly works - I selected this connection also to be used now for my GMAIL account (under server priveligies while setting up your email), Skype works, MSN works, Google Map works, Explorer works, Opera Works..... all running full 3G HDSPA mode!
My guess is, that the problem rely on the fact that you cannot select any default connection for MSN. So the connection you select as your generic connection must be capable of running MSN and all the rest - so if it doesn't work with your "Internet", "My Internet" or "The Internet" connection, try changing to another one. If you don't have it, try to setup from your telecom provider - maybe another setting will work.
Last thing to do for me now.. a full system backup with "SPB Backup" to make sure nothing goes wrong ever again
anichillus said:
I think you should change the thread name into something like "Windows Live Messenger DOESN'T Connect thru GPRS "
Good luck
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yeah mine can only connect with wifi but cannot connect with gprs but other but IE and weather report can work so far, WLM,Yahoo,TELENAV cannot connect
Having done a hard reset (to fix my backlight problem [see earlier posting]), I'm going through a build process to get my x7500 "just right".
When setting up the GPRS configuration, I realised I'd forgotten the Vodaphone settings so I had to hunt them down on the Web. The problem was, nothing I tried actually worked. I kept getting a "no modem" message.
So I set up a (should be) "good configuration" to use the common settings, ie:
name: Vodafone GPRS
access point name: Internet
username: web
password: web
And then created another entry in the ISP list, so that I could mess around with other settings (like the *99***1# stuff).
Still, nothing I tried would work.
So I did a soft-reset... and lo and behold, my alternate entry in the ISP list had disappeared, and the good configuration, er, now worked.
Very strange.
(I really did do the hard reset)
Devany said:
Having done a hard reset (to fix my backlight problem [see earlier posting]), I'm going through a build process to get my x7500 "just right".
When setting up the GPRS configuration, I realised I'd forgotten the Vodaphone settings so I had to hunt them down on the Web. The problem was, nothing I tried actually worked. I kept getting a "no modem" message.
So I set up a (should be) "good configuration" to use the common settings, ie:
name: Vodafone GPRS
access point name: Internet
username: web
password: web
And then created another entry in the ISP list, so that I could mess around with other settings (like the *99***1# stuff).
Still, nothing I tried would work.
So I did a soft-reset... and lo and behold, my alternate entry in the ISP list had disappeared, and the good configuration, er, now worked.
Very strange.
(I really did do the hard reset)
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really dislike Vodafone now because it lock and limit the potential of Athena. T-mobile is much better, but anyway, i can confirm the setting you have is what i had on my vodafone setting before.
Hi
I bought a Generic unbranded X1. I put my Vodafone SIM in it and did a hard reset as Vodafone have suggested. When it has finished setting up and downloaded the settings from Vodafone I still cannot access the internet in either IE or Opera. I have searched the internet and tried changing the settings but still get nothing.
Can someone please give me a list of all the settings I need so that I can manually set up the connection.
By the way it's a Dutch Vodafone SIM but that makes no difference as internet was working on my P1 and the ANP and user name and password are the same.
Thanks
Ed
same problem, tried the given settings from the vodafone site (business contract).
no results. waiting for a sollution.
ps. my t-mobile SIM works okay.
groet, Steven
This is the daft thing. I put my UK O2 SIM in and everything works fine.
Why is it that Vodafone have to screw everything up. Surely it can't be that complicated.
EdLow said:
Hi
I bought a Generic unbranded X1. I put my Vodafone SIM in it and did a hard reset as Vodafone have suggested. When it has finished setting up and downloaded the settings from Vodafone I still cannot access the internet in either IE or Opera. I have searched the internet and tried changing the settings but still get nothing.
Can someone please give me a list of all the settings I need so that I can manually set up the connection.
By the way it's a Dutch Vodafone SIM but that makes no difference as internet was working on my P1 and the ANP and user name and password are the same.
Thanks
Ed
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In order to access Vodafone live you will need the Wap settings below;
1. From the main display Tap the Start tab.
2. Tap on Settings.
3. Tap the Connections Tab at the bottom of the Screen.
4. Tap on Connections Icon.
5. Tap on the Advanced Tab
6. Tap Select Networks
7. Under the top drop-down box tap New…
8. Enter My Gprs as the name
9. Tap the Modem Tab, and then tap New…
10. In the Enter a name for the connection in the box, Enter Vodafone WAP.
11. In the Select a modem Box, tap the Arrow icon, Tap Cellular line (GPRS, 3G).
12. Tap Next.
13. In the Access point name Box, and enter:
If you are a Pay monthly customer: wap.vodafone.co.uk
If you are a Pay as you Talk customer: pp.vodafone.co.uk
14. Tap Next.
15. In the User Name Box, Enter wap
16. In the password Box, Enter wap
17. The Domain should be left blank
18. Tap Finish.
19. Tap OK in the top right hand corner of the screen.
20. Now it should say My Gprs in the top drop-down box, tap ok.
21. Tap the Tasks tab,and it should now say My Gprs in black at the top of the screen,Tap
Ok.
22. Press Start
23. Tap Internet Explorer
24. Tap Favourites
25. Tap Add / Delete
26. Tap Add….
27. At Name enter a name for the homepage e.g. Vodafone live!
28. Tap Address (URL) and enter the homepage URL e.g. http://live.vodafone.com
29. Tap Add
30. Tap Favourites
31. Tap the new Homepage e.g. Vodafone live!
32. Tap Menu
33. Tap Tools
34. Tap Options
35. Tap Use Current
The best thing to do is to delete the vf settings (there's a reg key that you change to enable them to be edited on this very forum) and then start again from Scratch.
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Destinations\<Account> and then modify the ReadOnly key to 0.
One of the main problems is the stock setting of "my isp" by VF, this seems to screw up connect via "the internet" which is what quite a few progs are looking for.
Disable all proxies and check to see if the advanced network settings uses chap rather than pap.
Personally I got rid of all the PAYT stuff and the wap, I never bother with either microsoft or vodafone live services.
Other option is to flash to an unbranded rom..
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In order to access Vodafone live you will need the Wap settings below;
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except that they are in the Netherlands. Read the posts carefully.
artesea said:
except that they are in the Netherlands. Read the posts carefully.
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Appreciate that, but he mentioned something about it doesn't matter that it is a Dutch Vodafone sim. Just trying to be helpful....
Also I suggest using (for VodaUK)
Access point name: internet
User Name Box: web
Password: web
Homepage: http://www.bbc.co.uk/
You get more applications running over the internet APN, only thing which won't work is the Vodafone Live homepage, which is pointless anyway.
Hi Guys,
Had the same problem - until I read something on this forum earlier.
Try this:
Go to: Start --> Settings --> Connections --> Advanced Networking
And change the band from HSUPA/HSDPA to GPRS. Then soft-reset.
The connection settings (as on the website unchanged) from vodafone should now work.. (did for me).
You can then change it back to HSDPA or HSUPA/HSDPA (and it should still work)..
YES at last, you are a star. That has at least got me getting a connection.
My panels update themselves so I know that the phone is receiving data.
My only problem now is that I cannot load any internet pages either in Opera or IE. Windows Live will not let me sign in and neither will MSN Messenger.
No worries - had the same issue on my Dutch X1i.
Do your panels run in the background? It seems mine terminate (i.e. if I activate FB, then switch to the fish, the FB panel terminates).
On your connecting, had that problem with my Kaiser - until I worked out that the Connections applet under Settings-->Connections-->Connections is fussy.
Make sure you have your GPRS settings in "My ISP", and that My ISP is selected under "Select Networks" for "prgrams that use internet".
If you are using a proxy, you'll notice that you can't get a proxy under "My ISP". Don't ask me why MS did this
Set the proxy settings under "My Work" (without a GPRS Modem connection under "My Work". I think it defaults to use the modem connection under "My ISP".
All other permutations (creating your own set of settings under "Select Networks", using a mix of own/My Work/My ISP, proved to be unreliable. Took me months to work that out.
Good luck, let me know the above needs clarification.
Thank you very much Calvin. That has got it all working perfectly.
By the way I have the same problem with the Facebook panel. If you navigate away from the Facebook panel by selecting another panel then it logs you out, however if you just start IE, Opera or Windows Live over the top of the panel then it keeps you logged in.
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Thank you very much Calvin. That has got it all working perfectly.
By the way I have the same problem with the Facebook panel. If you navigate away from the Facebook panel by selecting another panel then it logs you out, however if you just start IE, Opera or Windows Live over the top of the panel then it keeps you logged in.
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Nice - only a pleasure
Yeah, I noticed that too so it seems the panels API replaces the today screen with an overlay when you choose a "panel", which is probably why you can have either Today or Radio or Dashwire. Lol.
Ah well, still quite a functional interface I think.
Proxy server
To all of you: if you just switch of the proxy server of your Vodafone Live! connection then all problems are gone. Only thing is you cant't access the Vodafone Life! pages, but who cares about that.
PedrooNL said:
To all of you: if you just switch of the proxy server of your Vodafone Live! connection then all problems are gone. Only thing is you cant't access the Vodafone Life! pages, but who cares about that.
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And if you set the proxy server as part of the Work Network, then everything works.. Problem originates (*I think*) where Windows Mobile wants to use "My ISP" regardless of what you set in Connections-->Select Networks. So unless you know the relevant Reg Hack(s), ur effectively stuffed. This might be especially true for things like Messenger.
Drove me nuts for MONTHS. I'm happy to say that mine works now (vodafone live, internet, all applications, everything etc).
Anyhoo, just thinking out the box, setting the proxy server together with your ISP settings (e.g. settings bundle "Vodafone Live!" together with Proxy IP) might very well route all your internet traffic through the Vodafone Network (and presumably firewall, thus protecting your device from e.g. Malware on the 'net.
Ah well, since that doesn't work cause WinMo is fussy, I run Trend Micro as well - Windows Mobile.
hello,
I attempted to use the GPRS cab fix (which turns out to be german settings) and consequently screwed my gprs/3g/hsdpa settings.
Im a vodafone UK customer, wondering if any other Voda UK customers could share all their settings (MMS, gprs/3g/hsdpa) so any other fools like me could attempt to reset the settings!
arsen said:
hello,
I attempted to use the GPRS cab fix (which turns out to be german settings) and consequently screwed my gprs/3g/hsdpa settings.
Im a vodafone UK customer, wondering if any other Voda UK customers could share all their settings (MMS, gprs/3g/hsdpa) so any other fools like me could attempt to reset the settings!
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Have a look at the settings I posted earlier if that will help, if not log onto the Vodafone forum and ask there as they seem to be quite helpful...
arsen said:
hello,
I attempted to use the GPRS cab fix (which turns out to be german settings) and consequently screwed my gprs/3g/hsdpa settings.
Im a vodafone UK customer, wondering if any other Voda UK customers could share all their settings (MMS, gprs/3g/hsdpa) so any other fools like me could attempt to reset the settings!
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You would think they would be easy 2 find on Vodafone.co.uk... but check kirkie's post (#3).
My suggestion is delete all settings you can find in "Connections", and start again with My ISP, using the settings (e.g. connection name, Proxy IP address etc).
Keep in mind though, that there is a low chance that hidden settings were changed (which are only accesible through the Reg). In short trying to find what it changed might be a mission and a hard reset might be your easiest option (the fix cab may have altered settings in ur Reg like hidden proxy switch etc etc). The time spent re-installing is peanuts compared to trying to work out what it changed
I know I know - but it happened to me as I tried the same with AT&T fix cabs and sat screwed for a week or so.
yeah i followed what kirkie listed, although it still seems to attempt to dial a VFDE connection (german), and the connections list i can access doesnt seem to be the full list (theres still some german connections somewhere else i cant access)
might just have todo a reset. pain in the arse tbh, got it all setup how i like lol.
anyone know how to go about a hard reset?
else anyone figured out how to edit the registry connection entries?
i rang vodafone requesting the settings to be sent to me, although when trying to install them i just get an error.
well, no thanks to activesync, but lots of thanks to dashwire ...
hard reset and restore using dashwire made my life nice and easy.. only took 5 mins to reinstall all the little apps/panel's i'd aquired.
thanks for the help anyway guys
Hi guys, I been browsing the forum for a while - decided to sign up now due to getting hold of my first smart phone.
I've set up my email account (pop3) it worked the first time yesterday, received and sent emails.
Now today, when I receive I get nothing, no messages, and when I send one i get this message:
"cannot connect with current connection settings. the change your connection setting, tap settings."
clicking on settings brings up the t-mobile settings tab etc, but I'm not sure what to change here as I'm pretty new to all this!
and I'm just wondering if I need to change anything - as it worked yesterday but not now even though i haven't changed anything.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
I used to get all kinds of hassle like this with my HTC Advantage. It would work perfectly for a while, then it would not allow access, so I'd have to re-input the SAME settings all over and it would seem to work again (fortunately, it seems to be pretty well behaved nowadays!)
So long as your pop3/send/recieve/SMTP settings are all good [make sure that login names etc are all as your email provider states, usually full email address and password and smtp/outgoing *DOES* require authentication]- sounds like you might want to check on your connection settings (I assume that the internet is not working either? Or MSN messenger?) B4 going into settings you will need to find out EXACTLY what your APN (access point name) address is for your specific carrier (there are typically several ones per carrier - usually one for contract and one for PAYG) and the user name and password.
Then check/update your connection settings. You can go and edit the existing setting - you will need to choose a name for it (there should be a default) and then you may have to 'select a modem' - typically I select 'Cellular Line (GPRS, 3G)', as it works best for me [on another device however, I select GPRS only, as there is poor 3G reception here in the office and it causes the connection to find a 3G signal and try to connect to it, to no avail though and thus it drops the connection - but hopefully you wont experience this!]
Next update your: 'APN' and the 'User Name' and 'password' (those 3 things will be supplied by your carrier) and save it. And HOPEFULLY that should do it - it can get a little more complicated than that, but I'm hoping that you dont have to get into setting up work networks/proxy servers etc - I can do that and have some data for it, but I'm not very good at exaplaining it I'm afraid it's something I've learnt on a trial and error basis, as I'm not a techy/network specialist AT ALL
HTH
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thanks for your reply!
as far i know all my email info is fine, but I shall try again after work. only details I might have to get is t mobiles. might have to look on the net. but i'll try what you've suggested.
but the net is working fine! I'm using it now...will give it some trail and error.
thanks, and till later!
In which network are you? And which country?
Hello - I'm on t-mobile in the UK
I'm thinking of doing a total hard reset - now my googlemail isn't working ! and that was yesterday.
Just for good orders sake:
T-Mobile APN Configuration
For both contract and pay-as-you-go T-Mobile customers in UK the following APN settings are used:
Name: TMobile GPRS
GPRS APN address: general.t-mobile.uk
Username : user
Password: wap
- other settings can be left blank.
Apologies if you already know how to do this, but I just checked on the HD2 and you do the following;
GOTO the Settings tab (last one).
Hit MENU (bottom right)
Hit CONNECTIONS icon
Hit CONNECTIONS
Select (if you're accurate enough.... ) 'Manage Existing Connections' and follow the path - you may want to just re-input the above to make sure you know all is well then save it (finish)
Just a thought.
Thanks alot for that blackblade, i can use that as reference, will try again in abit - I've done a phone reset for now.
cheers fella. very helpful.
well guys, I've tried checking and changing those details - still no joy. Not sure what to do with this now to be honest!
Not sure if you've resolved this, but I had the same problem with t-mobile.
You need to deselect "use proxy server to connect to the internet" in the t-mobile internet settings, for some reason this gets selected on set up. Once you've done this you should be away!