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I've used vanilla donut,eclair,froyo, sense, and messed with blur for a minute.
What's the main differences between blur and sense? I know what they are functionally, but I've been on vanilla for a while.
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i've also heard the blur widgets are pretty nifty, whereas i wasn't very impressed with the sense widgets.
I had a droid eris for a year or so before i got my droid 2, and i can say that sense offers a better experiance. the blur widgets are not as good as the sense ones. and blur just feels to in the way. it is not as smooth as sense.
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Sense kills blur and touchwiz in functionality, appearance, and smoothness. I believe this is because they have been skinning a bit longer than the other guys, and I say this actually liking SOME of blur.
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Sense kills blur and touchwiz in functionality, appearance, and smoothness. I believe this is because they have been skinning a bit longer than the other guys, and I say this actually liking SOME of blur.
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I can agree with that. Used an Eris for about a year with 2.1 and sense. I eventually rooted it and went to 2.2 vanilla. I'd say I like vanilla more than both, although both sense and blur have a few features I'd like to keep.
Heyyy, kind of a noobie here.... I flashed iced glacier, and desire HD, and now I'm using cyanogen, which is like vanilla I guess? But what's the big difference....I mean it seems like there are two sides, the vanilla, and the other side... what I want to know is what is the real difference between say, sense, and something like cyanogen? I mean I am by no means anything even remotely close to a dev or anything of that nature so maybe that's why I don't know or understand...but so far the only big difference I have seen has been like the friendstream widget and te Widgets in general are nice in sense...could someone explain to me the case for both sides....vanilla and sense?
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Jaskwith said:
Heyyy, kind of a noobie here.... I flashed iced glacier, and desire HD, and now I'm using cyanogen, which is like vanilla I guess? But what's the big difference....I mean it seems like there are two sides, the vanilla, and the other side... what I want to know is what is the real difference between say, sense, and something like cyanogen? I mean I am by no means anything even remotely close to a dev or anything of that nature so maybe that's why I don't know or understand...but so far the only big difference I have seen has been like the friendstream widget and te Widgets in general are nice in sense...could someone explain to me the case for both sides....vanilla and sense?
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Cyanogen Mod is basically a modified version of the Android Open Source Project. That is to say it is basically vanilla android with some tweaks and replacements of generic apps.
CM6 Demo
Sense is user interface created by HTC that sits on top of the core android system and replaces many of the AOSP apps with HTC versions.
Sense Demo
Espresso, sometimes called MySense, is a modified version of HTC Sense.
Espresso Demo
Touchwiz is a samsung propietary that sits on top of the core android system and replaces AOSP apps with Samsung versions.
Touchwiz Demo
MIUI is a chinese developed UI for android, and much like sense sits on top of the Android core. MIUI to most people resembles iOS. It has aspects of many other user interfaces such as sense and touchwiz.
MIUI Demo
MOTOBlur is a Motorola proprietary user interface that is heavy on social networking. It was used int the cliq, but is no longer prevalent in newer motorola phones.
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The case for any of these is personal preference. Cyanogen Mod being an AOSP derivative tends to be more lightweight and not as resource intensive, but Sense has a ton of added goodies (particularly the actual HTC Sense and not T-mobile's version of sense, Espresso). MIUI has a very snappy interface heavy on animations and is very customizable. With all that, it's really up to you what you like most, and what suits your needs most.
I've had the Nexus One for So long with stock...
I kinda like HTC Sense on this phone it isn't so bad plenty of memory and I have a 16gb SD card. So I think I'll wait until Cyanogen comes up with a gingerbread ROM.... After coming off Cyanogen for months I think I'll give sense a try...
Thank you very much!!!!! Very helpful I get it all now. So would you say that people like AOSP so much because its by devs where as sense is something HTC tried to brand and because they are hardware end of things they don't know as much and should just leave it to devs and aosp, on the software side of things...?
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Cyanogen Mod is basically a modified version of the Android Open Source Project. That is to say it is basically vanilla android with some tweaks and replacements of generic apps.
CM6 Demo
Sense is user interface created by HTC that sits on top of the core android system and replaces many of the AOSP apps with HTC versions.
Sense Demo
Espresso, sometimes called MySense, is a modified version of HTC Sense.
Espresso Demo
Touchwiz is a samsung propietary that sits on top of the core android system and replaces AOSP apps with Samsung versions.
Touchwiz Demo
MIUI is a chinese developed UI for android, and much like sense sits on top of the Android core. MIUI to most people resembles iOS. It has aspects of many other user interfaces such as sense and touchwiz.
MIUI Demo
MOTOBlur is a Motorola proprietary user interface that is heavy on social networking. It was used int the cliq, but is no longer prevalent in newer motorola phones.
MotoBlur Demo
The case for any of these is personal preference. Cyanogen Mod being an AOSP derivative tends to be more lightweight and not as resource intensive, but Sense has a ton of added goodies (particularly the actual HTC Sense and not T-mobile's version of sense, Espresso). MIUI has a very snappy interface heavy on animations and is very customizable. With all that, it's really up to you what you like most, and what suits your needs most.
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Jaskwith said:
Thank you very much!!!!! Very helpful I get it all now. So would you say that people like AOSP so much because its by devs where as sense is something HTC tried to brand and because they are hardware end of things they don't know as much and should just leave it to devs and aosp, on the software side of things...?
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I think the allure of AOSP is how lightweight it is. That is why so many people like CM... it's AOSP with extra tweaks and features. Sense on the other hand many people see as bloated and "improving" where it's not needed... like I said it's all preference though... I personally really like CM, but I also really like the "new" sense that you will find in gr8gorilla's DHD port. Just experiment... maybe run a rom for a day or two give it a good test run then try another... eventually you will figure out what's right for you.
@slhpss Thanks a lot. This is a really easy and concise way of explaining things and I appreciate that.
Why do people like sense roms, the only reason I like them is for the sense clock but fancy widget pro has a clone of it which I like better.
For me sense feals more polished
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Because HTC made a great UI .
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Personally, I've enjoyed the Sense UI since launch day. It's more polished than the stock version and that's all I need to be content.
Customizing your phone might be the way you want to go, but the time put into just using Sense vs finding your own blend isn't for me.
To me miui is the most polished and stable and with fancy widget pro its perfect.
Contact and calendar integration with Facebook is much better on Sense than aosp Android.
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abanh said:
Contact and calendar integration with Facebook is much better on Sense than aosp Android.
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And THAT is why I (and probably a lot more people) love sense, they have the best integration with facebook, and the slick polished UI and other widgets are great also too
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Why do people like sense roms, the only reason I like them is for the sense clock but fancy widget pro has a clone of it which I like better.
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I "like" AOSP roms but EVERY one has issues. All the CM based ones have wake issues with screen and calls I have tried everything. Sensors dont respond as quick. Take the phone away from you face with an AOSP rom and a sense rom you will see what I mean, the list goes on. The reaction of the Prox sensor is night and day. The best AOSP I have found is MIUI. I have tryed them all and give props to them ALL but I hate to admit it overall function on my EVO is best with a Sense Based Rom. And GB has nothing so far that makes me get all giddy.
VaelPak 3.2
LP
Fancy Widgets
4.3.2-cfs-sbc-havs-more
Best overall combo I have found
Just my 2 pennies
lovespancakes96 said:
To me miui is the most polished and stable and with fancy widget pro its perfect.
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Except its missing HDMI and 4G. Soo... its not really as polished. And saying you don't care about those features answers your own question as to why people like sense UI... doesn't it?
Personal preference? I like my 4G and HDMI... so obviously, I'm going to stick with something that have them..
In 1943 I killed a hobo.
Maybe people just like crappy battery life???
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Maybe people just like crappy battery life???
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My battery lasts a full day with Myn 2.2 and the #15 Kernel. 19hrs overall time without a charge, 8hrs of Awake Time. Stock battery. Do I need it to last any longer? No. I unplugged it at 11am and it's now 6am. I'm about to go to bed..so I can plug it in until tomorrow.
I don't consider that.bad battery life, and 4G or wifi has been on all day. Actually. Every AOSP Tom I've flashed has been about the same. (Factoring in the lack of 4G.) *shrug*
You're one of the lucky ones, because I tried so many Sense ROMS/Kernel combos, and my battery was terrible.
for me facebook contact sync never works correctly on asop, it always imports all my contacts even if it's set to just merge with exsisting contacts. also, the asop cameras i've used didn't have touch to focus, and I could never make youtube video sharing work from the gallery. for me, asop battery life has sucked compared to sense.
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Maybe people just like crappy battery life???
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Battery life is about the same between sense and aosp roms if battery stats are properly calibrated when switching between the two. I rarely had to watch for wake lock issues on a sense rom though.
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I like sense for a stable option with a lot of nice bells and whistles. Works reliable and does what I need with out much alteration or thought. However, I also have a backup with ADW EX with Calk's remove sense, which is also great because it does keep quite a bit of the sense options like the camera and a bunch of the HTC apps. Then, I use CM7 for fun and playing around, but i do miss the stability, ease and reliability of sense after a day or two, and flash back. I have my ADW EX backup looking exactly like CM7 minus the screen off animation so it feels similar.
My battery life blows with CM7 too. Can't figure it out at all.
abanh said:
Contact and calendar integration with Facebook is much better on Sense than aosp Android.
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bronxknight28 said:
And THAT is why I (and probably a lot more people) love sense, they have the best integration with facebook, and the slick polished UI and other widgets are great also too
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felacio said:
My battery lasts a full day with Myn 2.2 and the #15 Kernel. 19hrs overall time without a charge, 8hrs of Awake Time. Stock battery.
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I'm not a fan of the "look" of stock sense, but as a base for others to redesign, i love it's functionality, integration, and I too get great batt life, at least a day+.
coming from the Hero, where every bit of performance you could squeeze from it was needed, I could appreciate the AOSPs and CMs, but (so far) with the Evo, have not needed to.
Actually, the best of both worlds is probably VaelPak. I might give that run again for a bit, even though I'm loving Destroyer.
I'll tell u why OPINION everyone has their own just so you know
I still haven't seen any real world proof that AOSP rom's are faster than an optimized Sense rom like Mik or Myn's. So the question is why would anyone not want Sense since you get a lot of extra stuff, its more stable and more polished.
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I still haven't seen any real world proof that AOSP rom's are faster than an optimized Sense rom like Mik or Myn's. So the question is why would anyone not want Sense since you get a lot of extra stuff, its more stable and more polished.
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depends on what you mean by "proof", I am under the impression that benchmarks are "better" (I gotz moar Mflopz bro!!1!!) under AOSPs...? (can't be assed to find proof right this sec)
but i dont think any (or little) of that translates to user experience. perhaps the exception being some "heavy" apps will be smoother under AOSP.
I hated Sense on the Hero. but thats because the Hero was slow to begin with, and AOSP/CM was it's savior. Not needed (IMHO) on the Evo.
which one do u prefer and why?
My favorite is sense, it has everything I need and it just looks the best, whether it's mysense(stock) of normal sense. I like all the widgets it has compared to vanilla android, but the speed impact is defiantly worth the UI. To me appearance is slightly more important to me than other features on android, but honeycomb looks sweet though. 3D sense is extra cool too-it as some minor changes that make it worth it. CM is nice too dont get me wrong, it has high level customization compared to other types of roms, you can change so many features.
P.S. When you say stock do you mean stock MT4g rom or vanilla android?
If it's looks then CM7. I can make it look exactly like Sense in every regard if I want to or customize anything(dialer, notification bar, boot screen, dock icons, etc). The extra is that the speed of CM7 blows away the speed of Sense. I've had many friends at work that have now rooted their phone after comparing the speed of my phone when compared to their stock Sense Mytouch 4G....it's not even close.
Negatives are: Sense camera/video app are much better, data speeds drop some, Dialer/contacts is better on Sense, and I miss the calendar widget.
mysense 3.0 because of the dock bar, too bad no one makes a properly working one.
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and I miss the calendar widget.
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Has anyone seen this ? http://gizmodo.com/5889560/htc-sense-ui-was-bloated-and-cluttered
I take this as a big, Big, BIG chance towards a fully functioning, and most importantly - SMOOTH Sense One V port for our precious Desire Z which we all love.
What do you think? Do you expect awesomistic difference in performance compared to Sense 3.5 or do you think the difference will be minor, if at all?
I for one am very optimistic regarding this!
Huh that's interesting, good post!
yeah, i saw this before coming here, was going to post the same thing, lol. I agree with OP, i think this should make for a very nice and smooth port!! Looking forward to it
So, we should have a smooth one s port right? Since its debloated and runs with hardware acceleration, it should be smoother then sense 3.5
I think probably anything could be smoother and more usable than Sense 3.* on our devices xD. Sure, the UI transitions and animations and scrolling might be smooth, but no matter which Sense ROM you choose, there will always be a great deficit in app performance in comparison to AOSP, CM or MIUI ROMs.
Either way though, i'm still hoping that we can get a smooth One V port *fingers crossed*
As HTC said, Sense 4.0 is more about „personalizing” the devices, not about removing everything AOSP and redrawing it Sense-style.
I love HTC's new simple market strategy. From hardware to software. It really does justice to their motto - „Quietly Brilliant”!
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Either way though, i'm still hoping that we can get a smooth One V port *fingers crossed*
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here too
Sense 4.0 on DZ
I really doubt Sense 4.0 will run smoothly on our DZ. Even when i used many sense 3.5 roms on my DZ it starts lagging after some amount of time. Used SDcard swap, supercharger and all the tweaks but was never satisfied with the performance. But as per reviews HTC has really toned down Sense with ICS so lets hope for the best.
Well, I believe theoretically it is possible and I hope soon HTC will prove us again that it is possible even practically.
cant wait
What would be nice is if they would nix all remnants of that sense crap. It doesn't add anything, it was 100% pure pain in the ass. Death by fire is what sense deserves, and everyone who promoted it, worked on it, or was in any way involved in the decision making regarding it, should be included.
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What would be nice is if they would nix all remnants of that sense crap. It doesn't add anything, it was 100% pure pain in the ass. Death by fire is what sense deserves, and everyone who promoted it, worked on it, or was in any way involved in the decision making regarding it, should be included.
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It looks pretty. For some
dhkr234 said:
What would be nice is if they would nix all remnants of that sense crap. It doesn't add anything, it was 100% pure pain in the ass. Death by fire is what sense deserves, and everyone who promoted it, worked on it, or was in any way involved in the decision making regarding it, should be included.
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Don't be so harsh. I for one get why some of you love AOSP, but seriously, until ICS, AOSP sucked UI-wise. Although 4.0 solved many of the look problems, Sense still adds some cool functionality such as the configurable shortcut lockscreen, a cool music player, and the overall HTC feel that I personally love way more than AOSP or Miui or any other interface.
And believe me, I have tried practically each and every single ROM that I could get my hands onto, and I found myself going back to Sense, in any of it's incarnations ( 2.1, 3.0, 3.5) each and every time.
True, Sense 3.x feels bloated, but HTC said that they are basically going back to v2 with Sense 4.0, so I am looking forward to the new interface.
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Don't be so harsh.
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Seriously. With custom ROMs, you can get what you want, whether it be Sense, AOSP, or something else. And plenty of people like Sense. No need to get your panties all in a tangle, if you don't.