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Do I need a screen protector?

I haven't recieved my phone yet, so my question is.
Do i need a screen protector or is the screen of the hd2 scratsfree?

looks like it is scratchproof

20mihalko said:
looks like it is scratchproof
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Ok thanks, so a little bit like glass?

if we are spending 500 euro on a device, what we are going to lose in spending 10-15 more? prevention is better.always.
BTW, I have ordered a screen protector along with my HD2 preorder

For that kind of dough they should have included one, they do with most all their other lines currently.

Alfredos said:
Ok thanks, so a little bit like glass?
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Feels solid like glass. The only bad thing about it, its a fingerprint magnet, and reflects light a lot.

Nothing is scratch proof, except for the hardest material (= very expensive ). One tiny sand particle can mess up an entire iphone screen within seconds.
Edit: I should add that of course a glass screen would be "less prone" to scratches in general than some form of polymer. So if you do not want to worry about scratching the screen, get a screen protector. If not, you'll probably be fine, but it's not guaranteed.

according to a review, the screen is made of special material, put screen protector will slow down the response. but it is still a good idea to protect it.

The term "special material" has a broad meaning. But yes, a screenprotector can interfere with the response, though I'm sure a screenprotector of a special material can be made as well, so it will have an insignificant influence on the response of the screen (see what I did there? ).

Benjiro said:
Feels solid like glass. The only bad thing about it, its a fingerprint magnet, and reflects light a lot.
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It's a great surface to use it as a mirror

Zero Masamune said:
It's a great surface to use it as a mirror
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Yeah, this is before it get scratches on it

I'm surprised no one has pointed out the capacitive screen responds only to fingers.....well maybe a special stylus, but I think you'll agree most of us will be using our fingers......
So in that event, what's the purpose of a screen protector?

audscott said:
I'm surprised no one has pointed out the capacitive screen responds only to fingers.....well maybe a special stylus, but I think you'll agree most of us will be using our fingers......
So in that event, what's the purpose of a screen protector?
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True, your finger won't scratch the screen, however when you have your phone in your pocket and say with some coins or keys or in your bag a screen protector will be very handy to protect your expensive gadget.

why_999 said:
True, your finger won't scratch the screen, however when you have your phone in your pocket and say with some coins or keys or in your bag a screen protector will be very handy to protect your expensive gadget.
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Would that be a man bag?

audscott said:
Would that be a man bag?
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...lol I dont have one but there is nothing wrong with a man bag... and I think there is a few girls on these forum

uh - yeah
I'm a girl and I do carry a small purse. I think I will have to investigate screen protectors. Don't want one that will interrupt the touch capabilities but I'm sure someone makes them. Better to be safe than sorry. I keep my phones for a couple of years. Not much worse than a scratched screen.

I will definitely put one on, not because I'm worried about the glass being scratched but I want an anti-glare protector which should help with fingerprints, smudges, glare and help a teeny weeny bit with sunlight legibility.

citrix80 said:
according to a review, the screen is made of special material, put screen protector will slow down the response. but it is still a good idea to protect it.
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This may be so for resistive screens, but for the HD2 which uses a capacitive screen I think a screen protector would make no difference.
And about a response, either its there or its not I don't think it would be slowed down lol.
I am considering purchasing a 'BodyGuardz' screen protector which is meant to be really good. Maybe anyone else who is going to by a screen protector should take a look. Its basically a cheaper version of InvisibleShield

I would definitely put on a screen protector the moment I unbox it.
Not just the screen protector, but also a case (I prefer a silicon soft case) for the side and back of the phone.

Alfredos said:
I haven't recieved my phone yet, so my question is.
Do i need a screen protector or is the screen of the hd2 scratsfree?
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tested the phone for a while and no need off protector

Scratch resistant!... Yeah right!

There was a video arround with someone abusing his HD2 by trying to scratch his HD2 screen with all sorts of things... the result was that it does not scratch....
than, how come I have to little scratches on my HD2?... all I do it's keeping it in it's own pocket with nothing else... but still I got the little scratches... maybe I touched it with something.... but still considering the abuse in the above mentioned video I don't see how it could happend this...
So, after all.... how scratch resistant is the HD2's screen?

There are plenty of threads for this topic already. Nevertheless it is just scratch RESISTANT, not scratch PROOF. So it can scratch. It only takes f.e. the right kind of sand grains in your pocket. Those can be pretty hard, harder than the glass of your HD2. There are many things harder than a hardened glass panel.
Use a screen protector. It also helps you to have less fingerprint smearing on your shiny display.

discussed already, as long as you abuse it with materials less hard than tempered glass it's not going to be damaged, but particles of terrain or sand or any other material that for any reason ends in your pockets and is harder than tempered glass will scratch the display.
Only diamond is truly unscratchable, other than with another diamond or a laser beam

Yes they will scratch!
I had to stop carrying loose diamonds in my pocket.

johnboatcat said:
I had to stop carrying loose diamonds in my pocket.
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Same here, I went through several screen protectors before I realized what the problem was. I carry my diamonds in a little baggie now.

Scrathes
Tygrtail said:
Same here, I went through several screen protectors before I realized what the problem was. I carry my diamonds in a little baggie now.
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I'm with Paul Simon - I put my "Diamonds on the soles of my shoes".

ccezar2004 said:
There was a video arround with someone abusing his HD2 by trying to scratch his HD2 screen with all sorts of things... the result was that it does not scratch....
than, how come I have to little scratches on my HD2?... all I do it's keeping it in it's own pocket with nothing else... but still I got the little scratches... maybe I touched it with something.... but still considering the abuse in the above mentioned video I don't see how it could happend this...
So, after all.... how scratch resistant is the HD2's screen?
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Yeah, those videos are biased towards protecting the HD2 from scratches.
The video of the guy scratching the CD case showed that he applied a ton of force to the case to get it to scratch. Then when he tried scratching the HD2, he applied a lighter amount of force; he was scared of breaking or scratching the HD2.

ok.. the thing is... either use a screen protector either take good care of your screen.. like extra care...

why anybody would think the screen is scratch proof is beyond me.....

I never paid attention to my phones. All of they got small scratches on the screen after a few days, and some scratches on the paint a few hours after buying it. My HD2 is still bright and shiny without any scratches. I like it. This phone is Trudi proof

I'm a tool.
The only mark my phone has picked up in the last 6 months is a small dent in the edge right next to the screen halfway up on the right hand side. Which was a result of me walking into a fridge
I've never used a screen protector and the screen is still as sleek and smooth as it was out of the box. I'm not claiming it is scratchproof but it must be very resillient.
I was really really really really lucky not to smash the screen because the actual casing of the phone is solid and it must have taken a hell of a knock to dent it.Needless to say the hand covers the phone everytime I walk past that fridge now.

HD2 Screen scratched!

So today, I was just walking and looking at my phone and I saw a tiny scratch on my HD2 screen, and I ran my finger through it, its really tiny but my nail got caught a bit into it....so...do you think that's an actual scratch or it'll go away...?

boidflip said:
So today, I was just walking and looking at my phone and I saw a tiny scratch on my HD2 screen, and I ran my finger through it, its really tiny but my nail got caught a bit into it....so...do you think that's an actual scratch or it'll go away...?
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If you can feel the ridge, then its a scratch. I know ppl say its scratch proof etc on youtube all, but when the device is that expensive with almost 50% of surface with screen, you would wanna put screen protector to prevent further scratches.

think yourself

maverick_endit81 said:
think yourself
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if it looks like a scratch, and if it feels like a scratch...

my screen has some scratches too. little tiny hairline scratches that are barely noticeable, but still... scratch-proof my ass.

Be glad your not a Desire owner.
My mate went out with new jeans on and his Desire must of scrached everytime he took it out and put it in to his pocket.
It looks like he has a spiders web in the top right corner.
You can even see it when the screens on lol.

Lemme put your HD2 under a microscope and get the verdict for you..

kabuk1 said:
my screen has some scratches too. little tiny hairline scratches that are barely noticeable, but still... scratch-proof my ass.
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when did htc ever claim to have invented the "scratch proof" screen?....

conantroutman said:
when did htc ever claim to have invented the "scratch proof" screen?....
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Exactly! HTC didn't make that claim.
If we were happy enough to let a low-res independant YouTube video convince us not to spend a few bucks on a screen protector rather than listen to the prevailing advice on these forums, we may be paying the price now with a scratched up screen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yQrnMQ83Ew&feature=player_embedded
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/htc-hd2-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
i orderd 2 last week

Dropped my Evo now have a couple scuffs on my screen how should I fix?

Please hold back your remarks about screen protectors this was a replacement, only the second day I had it, didnt have a chance to purchase one.

Joeriginal said:
Please hold back your remarks about screen protectors this was a replacement, only the second day I had it, didnt have a chance to purchase one.
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Think you could post a pic of the damage? if it's not too deep, i've heard of people using this product called applesauce that is supposed to give really good results. Maybe try that out and see how it works. Good luck to you, hope you get the scuffs out

You could try rubbing compound which is used on watches and things.

zone23 said:
You could try rubbing compound which is used on watches and things.
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Yeah, just thought of this after I read this post but you can also try the stuff that is used to fill in cracks for car windshields.

light scuffs
I've heard that white toothpaste can be used on light scuffs on plastic.
or perhaps Brasso polish?

The screen on the evo is made of gorilla glass, not plastic. Therefore acid based compounds such as applesauce or lcd scuff removers on the market would not work. The famous banana slice/peel trick doesn't work here either. Some compounds for watches only clean the surface of the glass and remove dirt from within the scratches, making the scratch less visible.
Your best bet is to clean the glass to remove all dirt then install a screen protector like invisibleshield to mask the scratches. This will work better since a liquid solution (usually 1 part soap and 9 parts water) is applied to the screen so you can squeegee out all the air during installation. The only downside to this is the texture feels like apple skin and screen clarity is affected...maybe 15-20%.

myenhdl said:
The screen on the evo is made of gorilla glass
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No, it's not. Just regular glass.

myenhdl said:
The screen on the evo is made of gorilla glass, not plastic. Therefore acid based compounds such as applesauce or lcd scuff removers on the market would not work. The famous banana slice/peel trick doesn't work here either. Some compounds for watches only clean the surface of the glass and remove dirt from within the scratches, making the scratch less visible.
Your best bet is to clean the glass to remove all dirt then install a screen protector like invisibleshield to mask the scratches. This will work better since a liquid solution (usually 1 part soap and 9 parts water) is applied to the screen so you can squeegee out all the air during installation. The only downside to this is the texture feels like apple skin and screen clarity is affected...maybe 15-20%.
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Not sure if it's made of Gorilla glass-- not saying that it scratches easily (because it probably doesn't), but I found I had a two very,very slight surface scratches on the screen after babying it for a month (always put it in an empty pocket with no keys/coins/etc, never set it face down, etc).
In any case, I wouldn't try using toothpaste, brasso, or any other solution on the screen except for an eyeglass/electronic screen cleaner as you'll probably end up creating more noticable scratches. Just clean the screen as well as you can, and throw on a screen protector, and you'll probably never notice the scratch-- most very small scratches are only noticable when viewing the screen at a very oblique angle to catch a reflected light source, and the screen protector blocks this.
Also, I wouldn't recommend the ZAGG. I had never used a ZAGG screen protector before, but have heard great things about them, and I'm not particularly picky or sensitive about screen protectors. However, I found the Zagg protector had a horrible rubbery feel to it, and gave the screen a really bad and noticable orange peel effect (actually, the effect seemed more like the screen was behind a 1/4" layer of ice). I put on a cheapo $1.99 screen protector from Gizmo Dorks (on Amazon.com), and the difference was like night and day-- the screen was just as smooth and clear as the original glass.

I have a few too... Leave it be and after a couple weeks you'll forget you even have them.

Can we buy the glass yet for this phone? I replace iPhone 3G and 3GS glass on an almost daily basis at work.

You don't have insurance on it???

myn said:
You don't have insurance on it???
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He might... but I'm not sure a $100 deductible + limited further coverage is worth a few small scuffs. I guess it depends on how bad they are, but if they are anything like mine it totally would not be worth it.

You should be more carefull with your EVO.
Sent from my EVO 4G using Tapatalk

Kooper113 said:
No, it's not. Just regular glass.
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No, it is Gorilla glass.

n64kps said:
No, it is Gorilla glass.
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Since the debate is going back n forth about the glass.....what is the difference between the two? Sure i could search but since there's a debate I think it should be explained this thread...

I looked all over and can't find anything confirming it's Gorilla Glass so I assume it's not. Plus I wouldn't find so many people with easily cracked screens if it was...
Sent from the EVO via XDA App

http://www.androidcentral.com/evo-4g-screen-scratch-test-isnt-pretty - no scratches

I watched that when I got my EVO back in June but don't have the balls to try it. Some of the pics online of cracked screens still make me wonder and NERVOUS!
community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/94/t/3672.aspx
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n64kps said:
No, it is Gorilla glass.
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Can you post where you got this proof?

n64kps said:
No, it is Gorilla glass.
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If you are so sure of yourself, why don't you post a video of yourself stabbing the screen with a ball-point pen to prove that it's really Gorilla Glass?

Yet Another Dust Under The Screen

I'm fed up of dusts under the screen, every product I buy seems to get it after some time.
I'm sure it didn't have this issue out of the box, as I would have realized. Today, my screen got dirty after playing around with it with greasy hands so I thought I should clean it with the microfiber cloth that came with my TV. I was cleaning it, but turns out the cloth wasn't clean either. Anyway it got even more dust on the screen, and when I cleaned the screen, there was dust under the screen that just didn't go away.
There is just 1 of them, it is only visible under direct light or when the screen is white. It is hard to see, but knowing it is there freaks me out. I don't think I can get a replacement either..
What should I do? Live with it?

Sadly only solution is to send it to samsung for a cleanup maintenance. Thats what i did with my phones

That's a solution but I don't really want to do it just for one pixel... And it's on the far bottom-right, not at a place that's easily seemable. But knowing it's there gives me OCD..

aryuautku said:
That's a solution but I don't really want to do it just for one pixel... And it's on the far bottom-right, not at a place that's easily seemable. But knowing it's there gives me OCD..
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I WOULD HATE THAT TOO! SUCKS

Are you sure its not scratches in the glass, afaik the touch screen would be glued to the digitizer like most other touch devices, so i dunno how you got dust under there.

natious said:
Are you sure its not scratches in the glass, afaik the touch screen would be glued to the digitizer like most other touch devices, so i dunno how you got dust under there.
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The dust would be between the top layer of glass and the screen, I had a piece of dust near the edge of the screen that appeared soon after I got the tab, tapped the tab on edge and the dust disappeared never to return.

it is because the builder quality issue. the form between two layer not sealed well.
sometime the duct gets through. it is annoying issue for the phone

It's not at a very-obvious location, and it's really,really hard to see while using it. Now what's smitching my mind is, did it get in there or was it there all the time?

It's a horrible experience to live with it, i lived with it for like 5 months my g2 had a lot of dust under, so what i did is sell it on craigslist, but i chose to meet at night to do the trade so he wouldnt see the dust cuz you really cant see it at night but, i sold it cheap leaving room for the guy to send it back to the factory to fix te problem, selling it could be the best shot for you because if you got dust in there will be more comming in to join the party
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rgbc said:
The dust would be between the top layer of glass and the screen, I had a piece of dust near the edge of the screen that appeared soon after I got the tab, tapped the tab on edge and the dust disappeared never to return.
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That isn't possible to get dust there. I dropped my tab and broke the wimpy gorilla glass. I replaces it and I can tell you the glue that binds the glass to the digitizer is very solidly stuck! Are you using a screen protector? Possibly there?

DarkPal said:
Sadly only solution is to send it to samsung for a cleanup maintenance. Thats what i did with my phones
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How much did it cost, and how long did it take?

rangercaptain said:
That isn't possible to get dust there. I dropped my tab and broke the wimpy gorilla glass. I replaces it and I can tell you the glue that binds the glass to the digitizer is very solidly stuck! Are you using a screen protector? Possibly there?
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I dropped my belt buckle on the tab, and got a small line about 2mm on the screen, the LCD is ok, but the top glass is cracked. I have a screen protector, might have kept it from getting bigger.

StarLog said:
How much did it cost, and how long did it take?
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oops, just saw your question. $140, took twenty minutes. The parts and tools took five days to get here from China.
That gorilla glass should be renamed sissy glass. Or panty glass.

Rangercaptian
If you remember where or what it was called, PM me the url or what ever.

http://www.tvc-mall.com/

I hate those little dusts.
I've had some of them under screen protector but never under the screen itself.

semi-related, but my ipod (not a touch, a video) has a ton of pieces of dirt underneath the glass, presumably on top of the lcd

Tears in my eyes!
No, not from the dust...... from the laughter induced by content of this post.
Please don't get me wrong, dust is a genuine concern, so I don't mean any offence whatsoever.
Thanks (+1) aryuautku for one of the best laughs I've had in a while
"Now what's smitching my mind is, did it get in there or was it there all the time?"
Cheers!

Has anyone ever used an invisible shield, they say it's better than a normal
screen protector and it's easy to install, without any dust under it.
Is that true?