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Gorilla glass- good stuff?

So, any thoughts about gorilla glass? Today my 2week old dvp shattered. Yes, I dropped it. But, I've dropped phones before with no damage .
I ordered s new one while I fight to get a replacement. Low expectations on that. However I'm thinking my expectations on gorilla glass may have been too high.
Anyone with s more correct expectation level willing to reset mine?

alodar1 said:
So, any thoughts about gorilla glass? Today my 2week old dvp shattered. Yes, I dropped it. But, I've dropped phones before with no damage .
I ordered s new one while I fight to get a replacement. Low expectations on that. However I'm thinking my expectations on gorilla glass may have been too high.
Anyone with s more correct expectation level willing to reset mine?
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technically your gorilla glass didnt shatter you had a bad drop and the glass layer under the gorrila broke. trust me ive taken a hammer to the top layer and nothing. if you drop the phone with the screen facing down then your ok. but drop it on the sides or the back and you can get the layers under the gorilla to break

SHAUN231 said:
technically your gorilla glass didnt shatter you had a bad drop and the glass layer under the gorrila broke. trust me ive taken a hammer to the top layer and nothing. if you drop the phone with the screen facing down then your ok. but drop it on the sides or the back and you can get the layers under the gorilla to break
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no, it shattered. Top, bottom, and every layer in between. I cut myself on the pieces falling off. I do have a pic I'll share later. I thought it landed face down...loohed like it. But the break pattern indicated more towards the edge. Funny thing though, I was also holding my hd2 at the same time..both dropped togethr. One on top of the other. Both broke, indicating the drop was similar to what you day.
The Dell shattered completely, inner and putter layers. Only a tiny part of the screen is alive. The hd2 has cracks, but is usable.

alodar1 said:
no, it shattered. Top, bottom, and every layer in between. I cut myself on the pieces falling off. I do have a pic I'll share later. I thought it landed face down...loohed like it. But the break pattern indicated more towards the edge. Funny thing though, I was also holding my hd2 at the same time..both dropped togethr. One on top of the other. Both broke, indicating the drop was similar to what you day.
The Dell shattered completely, inner and putter layers. Only a tiny part of the screen is alive. The hd2 has cracks, but is usable.
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oh wow can you seperate the gorilla glass from the phone. i mean youll most likely get a replacement mines is coming today the shipped it overnight my battery exploded lol backcover melted its not nice

it would be nice if you provide some details pictures.

SHAUN231 said:
technically your gorilla glass didnt shatter you had a bad drop and the glass layer under the gorrila broke. trust me ive taken a hammer to the top layer and nothing. if you drop the phone with the screen facing down then your ok. but drop it on the sides or the back and you can get the layers under the gorilla to break
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I dropped the phone glass first on a pavement, it had a screen protector. Though the screen didn't break nor are there any scratches but it did get a pin point dent on the glass
I guess if they are not sure about the amount of RAM they put in this phone who is to say if this is a real gorilla glass.
Just curious, the hammer thing you did, was it on a DVP?

I read an article somewhere that said that gorilla glass is only strongest when it is at the center and it is not as good at the edges.

I've seen all Gorilla Glass demo's done hitting it in the middle. I've seen just about every single break happen because of edge damage.
This should be addressed IMO.

My DVP has scratches all over the screen...Scratch resistent my butt..
Good thing I'm getting my replacement today

i keep my DVP in my pocket all the time and the glass doesn't have a single scratch.

bbowman said:
i keep my DVP in my pocket all the time and the glass doesn't have a single scratch.
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Same here.

millerliteguy said:
My DVP has scratches all over the screen...Scratch resistent my butt..
Good thing I'm getting my replacement today
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personally i got one scratch from keeping it in my pocket and several scratches from this one time where i dropped it
and engadget had several scratches on the venue
so some people get lucky and some dont as far as gorrilla glass goes

I had the displeasure of owning the DVP and thought the glass was atrocious. The curved design made it hard to scroll smoothly. And godforbid you try and wipe away smudge prints and dirt - this was a task in itself. However, I dropped it face first from 1 and half feet and not one scratch.

I abuse my phones and the best to take my abuse was my Dash 3G. The DVP is comparable. Only 2 light scratches and i got my phone a week before christmas and did i mention i abuse my phones. They are kept in my pocket with keys and such. Even the chrome trim has held up nice. As for the curved glass i like it.. Very tactile, and easy to use. maybe its my big hands but I like it, even the keys are spaced well and robust. Again, i have huge hands and the on screen keyboard doesnt work for me, but the portrait works well.

I've dropped mine a few times, not a scratch. Just yesterday, my car holster decided to let go of the dashboard, causing the DVP (with a little extra weight attached) to faceplant into my shifter pretty hard. No problems there either.

got my phone a few days ago, dropped it my first time today and the glass shattered
what can I do? I am very disappointed in myself....
I cannot find any replacement parts, I cannot find any repair shops for it... should I sell it as is, or call dell? IDK what to do... it still works fine just has a very ugly screen

erebusting said:
got my phone a few days ago, dropped it my first time today and the glass shattered
what can I do? I am very disappointed in myself....
I cannot find any replacement parts, I cannot find any repair shops for it... should I sell it as is, or call dell? IDK what to do... it still works fine just has a very ugly screen
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if you go to the Dell community site, they will tell you there is nothing they will do. I have a new one, paid for out of my pocket.

alodar1 said:
if you go to the Dell community site, they will tell you there is nothing they will do. I have a new one, paid for out of my pocket.
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dell charged me 249.99 to send me a replacement device...
a cracked screen is considered out of warranty (I think it also includes any physical damage as well...not sure about that part though)

Well no one ever said Gorilla Glass wasn't glass... It is tougher than normal glass against scratches, but it isn't scratch proof nor is it shatter proof.
Remember it is still glass and that means it will break under the right conditions.

frazell said:
Well no one ever said Gorilla Glass wasn't glass... It is tougher than normal glass against scratches, but it isn't scratch proof nor is it shatter proof.
Remember it is still glass and that means it will break under the right conditions.
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yea, sucks because it seems as though they could come up with a better more shatter proof solution....

Vanilla no Screen protector

Is anyone here going Nakey with no screen protector? i've got one on right now and i can't STAND how the edges of the protector collect dust... i feel like taking it off..
Tell me your experiences with none on, is your screen getting scratches?

I hate screen protectors as well. That said, everytime I've tried to go nekkid, I've eventually ended up with scratches. No matter how careful you are, it seems, Gorilla Glass WILL scratch. Relatively easily IMO.

I picked up an InvisibleShield HD from Best Buy and it is super clear and flush. I dont even notice it on there.

Jake101 said:
I picked up an InvisibleShield HD from Best Buy and it is super clear and flush. I dont even notice it on there.
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Is that the dry kind?

ickster said:
I hate screen protectors as well. That said, everytime I've tried to go nekkid, I've eventually ended up with scratches. No matter how careful you are, it seems, Gorilla Glass WILL scratch. Relatively easily IMO.
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I will prob go with no screen protector, I had my HTC Hero for 3 years and had very minimal scratching without a screen protector. I only ever put my phone in my pocket on its own. I also keep my phones for the 3 year term that I get them on so by time the 3 years is up the re-sale value doesn't really matter to me any way so if it has some minor scratches it doesn't matter much since I will prob just pass the phone to someone for free anyway. Not to mention it looks and feels better without the protector and why not have the best experience with your phone instead of babying it.

I've never had one on my E4GT and it only has a few super faint scratches that you have to turn it off and put in sunlight to see. I don't think I'll put one on my GSIII either - they always end up getting bubbles or peeling back at some point.

computermilk said:
Is that the dry kind?
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I am not sure... It is a sticky on one side and you apply a solution to apply it to the screen which makes positioning it very easy.

Jake101 said:
I am not sure... It is a sticky on one side and you apply a solution to apply it to the screen which makes positioning it very easy.
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Wet.

I'm going nude too
The only phone I've ever had a tiny scratch in was with my Droid Bionic. But it was my work phone which means that I didn't baby it the way I normally do with my phones. None of my phones have ever had any scratch on them, and in fact the only phone that did have a screen protector on it, broke. Not that a screen protector is supposed to prevent it from breaking after someone stepped on it but yeah that's another story. I'm also planning on getting a white one and don't think it would look too nice after a while as the glue around the edges gets dark.
I figure as long as my pockets are free from anything else and they stay clean that I shouldn't have any issues with the screen. Just take care of your stuff people. Also while i'm at it, I think it's disgusting when people here scratch their screen then return it for another one. That's not anyone's fault but your own. There is already a high demand for these devices and the carrier or samsung should not be held responsible for that.
*gets off my soap box*

Screen protectors are a pain in the ass. Get rid of it. You can always tell that it's on there. Just take care of your phone. I keep my right pocket for the phone only. I never put anything in my right pocket except for the phone.

I never use a screen protector. Never got scratches on my phone either. This is gorilla glass 2, so if you mess this up you don't need a phone
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cwalker29 said:
I never use a screen protector. Never got scratches on my phone either. This is gorilla glass 2, so if you mess this up you don't need a phone
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Stick your finger in the sand at the beach, then swipe your finger across your screen. Report back.
Sand will scratch the screen. Sand is actually at locations other than the beach and may come into contact with your phone/finger.

One year on the nexus and not a single scratch. My daughters epic is 2 years old without a single scratch and she just throws it in her book bag. Neither have ever had screen protectors.
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The_Biz said:
Stick your finger in the sand at the beach, then swipe your finger across your screen. Report back.
Sand will scratch the screen. Sand is actually at locations other than the beach and may come into contact with your phone/finger.
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I think most people would notice if sand came in contact with their phone/finger and wouldn't have an issue scratching the phone.

I've never used a screen protector, nor do I have any intention of using one on this device. My s2 looks like the day I got it.

Halmo said:
I think most people would notice if sand came in contact with their phone/finger and wouldn't have an issue scratching the phone.
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Meh. Some sand/dirt is overseen depending on its size as not all dirt/sand is the same size. You can google gorilla glass and scratches and see it will scratch. I'm not saying everybody will scratch their screen, but I'm not taking any chances. Besides, I'm a pro at putting on screen protectors so I do it anyways..

If you are worried about scratches, I'd rather get a flip cover or slide in pouch than taint the display with a screen protector. Granted I live in the midwest and there isn't exactly a lot of beaches around, but I had my Epic since launch and never put anything on it and the screen still looks like new (the bezel not so much). It's even been dropped a few times landing facedown on my driveway/garage floor.

I have been naked on my phones the past several years and no visible or major scratches. If you are careful and don't put coins or keys in same pocket you should be good.

I'm going without a screen protector. One reason is that I suck at putting them on and get really annoyed with the bubbles and dust particles underneath. But the screen is just too good to cover up with a protector. I take good care of my phones so I don't have to worry too much about scratches. I had my GS2 for 8 months with no protector and no scratches at all. I put it in my pocket without anything else and it was fine. I make sure my hands are clean before using my phone.

I always start out with a protector, then end up taking it off after 6 months or so and that's with every Smartphone I've ever owned 2007-present.
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Scratch Proof'ness

I've got a white S3 and I think it's beautiful. However, I went into hospital a few days after having it, and left it in the hands of my brother who used it regularly. When I came home, I found a scratch going from the bottom about 1 and a half inches up the screen. I was furious, but it couldn't have been from regular use, surely? I just assumed a cat had got hold of it, but a little strange that it would be the one scratch...
Anyway, I've been using it for a while and I'm starting to notice more scratches on it... I'm just wondering how everyone else's finding their screens to be.
I mean, I should get a screen protector, but I feel it's too late since it's it won't get rid of the existing scratches. Do you think I could get the screen replaced as it's under warranty? I've never had this problem before with a phone because I've always had a screen protector, just didn't think I would need one with the S3's gorilla glass 2...

Always used a screen protector. sometime they even help hide scratch s on the screen
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A screen protector can hide some scratches, but you will not be able to claim on warranty because its classed as accidental damage. I would try a cheap screen protector to see if it hides the scratches before contacting Samsung.

Ah okay. So a warranty only covers faults with THEIR hardware and not due to something that I've done, say I were to brick it some how, no warranty cover?
But I shall have to try a cheap screen protector and see what it does. Just a shame that these scratches seem to build up on it. I thought it would hold up better. I mean, my brother owns a Lumia 800 which has no scratches at all, although I suppose the screen is quite a bit smaller so not as vulnerable.

my local samsung service centres replaces screen cracks/scratches the first time for free. maybe you can try to ask them? no harm in trying

No harm in trying, that's for sure!
But best make sure I have a screen protector ready anyway! :laugh:
Thanks for your input!

I doubt you'll get it fixed under warranty but if you serious about fixing the scratches you could pay to get the scratches ground out and will be a Hell of a lot cheaper than buying a new screen at at least $250.

Geordie Lad said:
I doubt you'll get it fixed under warranty but if you serious about fixing the scratches you could pay to get the scratches ground out and will be a Hell of a lot cheaper than buying a new screen at at least $250.
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That will not work... If you remove any of the screen surface, you remove the layer with the potassium ion substitution in it. All you will do is expose the softer (much) vanilla aluminosilicate under the hardened outer layer.
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zardoz99 said:
That will not work... If you remove any of the screen surface, you remove the layer with the potassium ion substitution in it. All you will do is expose the softer (much) vanilla aluminosilicate under the hardened outer layer.
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I think the words you looking for is the Oleophobic coating.
And yes I did consider that but he is talking about using a screen protector after it's done so grinding the surface to the actual Gorilla Glass won't be an issue, and I've heard of plenty people doing this using simple grinding and polishing tips on a multitool and grinding paste but it's probably best to get someone who knows what they doing to do it right.

I've had mine since mid June. I do have an otterbox and a few other cases that I alternate between. However, day today for the most part I use it without a case. The screen is still flawless.
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I recommend using a good cover and a screen protector.
I am always very careful with my phones, but who knows what may happen if you give your phone to a friend for 2 minutes. :laugh:

The only scratch I've found on my S3 is on the camera lens. It's on the very edge between the open clear lens and the black boarder. Oh and a few markings on the battery cover. Nothing to serious.

Screen scratch

I have a scratched screen - it's not large but one of those ones that is completely noticeable as the light reflects off it.
All I've done is put it in and out of my pockets and I don't have anything else in them!
I've read on here in the past that gorilla glass should not scratch unless you really go at it.
Has anyone successfully had a scratch/screen repaired under the warranty for something like this?

Doubtful a warranty repair would take place with a scratch on the screen . It is deemed user wear and tear.
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I think it's sand. My previous iPhone got lots of fine scratches on its Gorilla Glass 2 too. :/
Sand is one of the hardest substances. Just below diamond iirc.

Hammer_drum said:
I have a scratched screen - it's not large but one of those ones that is completely noticeable as the light reflects off it.
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Why don't you have a screen protector on it?

XiphoneUzer said:
Why don't you have a screen protector on it?
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2 reasons:
1st - I'm yet to find one that I don't know is "there"
2nd - Every time I've tried to apply one, I can never get it totally dust or bubble free.
Exploring getting some new glass and fitting myself.

If 2 is true, I don't know how are you going to fit whole new glass on, which is, from what I've seen on youtube, x100 times more difficult especially if you use liquid glass underneath. Without liquid glass you may have issues.

Hammer_drum said:
2 reasons:
1st - I'm yet to find one that I don't know is "there"
2nd - Every time I've tried to apply one, I can never get it totally dust or bubble free.
Exploring getting some new glass and fitting myself.
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I just use the cheap ass one's 3 for £5 in the local market, A couple I've had some bubbles in but this last one I have now, I managed to get it completely bubble free.... Trick is scrape out the bubbles as you press it on

Hammer_drum said:
I have a scratched screen - it's not large but one of those ones that is completely noticeable as the light reflects off it.
All I've done is put it in and out of my pockets and I don't have anything else in them!
I've read on here in the past that gorilla glass should not scratch unless you really go at it.
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That kind of stuff is why most people that know better and really want to avoid scratches (and potentially also lower the risk of shattering after a sudden shock) use a screen-protector. (mine is a very inexpensive one, my main requirement was to be easy to apply without dust or bubbles).

Hammer_drum said:
I have a scratched screen - it's not large but one of those ones that is completely noticeable as the light reflects off it.
All I've done is put it in and out of my pockets and I don't have anything else in them!
I've read on here in the past that gorilla glass should not scratch unless you really go at it.
Has anyone successfully had a scratch/screen repaired under the warranty for something like this?
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I always have a completely empty pocket dedicated to my phone - front right pocket. However I have a miniscule scratch, which I believe was due to a coin in the same pocket which was only there for a few minutes. Gorilla glass Shmagilla glass - seems like it isn't as strong as it should be...
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I found that the best way to cover up scratches is to apply a screen protector. The trick to applying a screen protector bubble and dust free is water.
1. Clean your phone's screen, to really catch all the dust use some kind of ducktape/sellotape - magic tape works best as it doesn't leave any residue on the glass. Do this immediately before applying the protector.
2. Now wash your hands and keep your fingers moist, so that any accidental touching of the sticky side of the screen protector won't leave any finger prints.
3. Get a water spray and water the sticky side of the protector, alternatively put the sticky side under the tap.
4. Aim and apply the screen protector. Because the sticky side is wet, you can take it off and reapply if you've messed it up. A pro tip: If you messed up your screen protector, you can try washing it gently with transparent liquid soap.
5. Push the water bubbles out with a credit card wraped in a linen cloth.
6. Once you've removed all the water bubbles it can take around a day for the screen protector to fully adhere to the screen.
7. Congrats!

Hammer_drum said:
2 reasons:
1st - I'm yet to find one that I don't know is "there"
2nd - Every time I've tried to apply one, I can never get it totally dust or bubble free.
Exploring getting some new glass and fitting myself.
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Fitting it yourself? U cant even put a screen protector on, and your going to perform a repair on your $750 device?
It's too late to tell you to bring it in to your carrier and let them apply your screen protector for free. Next time perhaps.

No would have sufficed as an answer to the original question, but thanks for your patronising responses.

Fit your screen protector in a warm steamy bathroom! The steam grabs all the dust out of the air...
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screen scratches

When I bought my s8 I didn't have enough money to get a screen protector. I'm OCD when it comes to screen scratches. And sadly I've accumulated a few. Does anyone know of a way to buff out these scratches?

How have you scratched it? its a glass screen, it shouldnt be THAT easy to scratch it!

ewokuk said:
How have you scratched it? its a glass screen, it shouldnt be THAT easy to scratch it!
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No idea how the scratches got there. They aren't huge or super noticeable either but they still annoy me. You'd think that we'd have scratch resistant glass at this point

ewokuk said:
How have you scratched it? its a glass screen, it shouldnt be THAT easy to scratch it!
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It kinda makes me want to buy a insurance plan and just break it to get a new one

Duck Quan said:
It kinda makes me want to buy a insurance plan and just break it to get a new one
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I don't think we should talk about or condone insurance fraud.

lynxblaine said:
I don't think we should talk about or condone insurance fraud.
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It's not like it's a car.

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It's not like it's a car.
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Some cars cost less than £600.
No one goes to jail for a 'little' fraud. Law is absolute not a grey area. Sentences for crimes are proportionate to the crime. but as you admit in saying "It's not like it's a car" it is still illegal regardless.

Mine had a couple of scratches out of the box. But they are so shallow that are only visible at the certain lighting at certain angle and completely invisible under the screen protector or on a lit up screen. Unless you don't see them all the time - its fine. And I guess there is some coating on a glass that gets scratched - not glass itself. As it was mentioned before - its not easy to scratch it unless you wiped it with dirty cloth or sand. Many people don't use protectors at all and have 0 scratches in a year.
But get a screen protector anyway. Regular plastic one will do (I use official Samsung protectors). You will, probably, not see those scratches under it and it will help your device to look like new over the years.
PS: And yes, there is a couple of ways to remove the scratches, but you should never do it. It might be a success, but in 90% of cases you'll just scratch your screen much more.

Do Samsung do protectors for the S8? Any links, I'd be interested. Thanks.
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Mine had a couple of scratches out of the box. But they are so shallow that are only visible at the certain lighting at certain angle and completely invisible under the screen protector or on a lit up screen. Unless you don't see them all the time - its fine. And I guess there is some coating on a glass that gets scratched - not glass itself. As it was mentioned before - its not easy to scratch it unless you wiped it with dirty cloth or sand. Many people don't use protectors at all and have 0 scratches in a year.
But get a screen protector anyway. Regular plastic one will do (I use official Samsung protectors). You will, probably, not see those scratches under it and it will help your device to look like new over the years.
PS: And yes, there is a couple of ways to remove the scratches, but you should never do it. It might be a success, but in 90% of cases you'll just scratch your screen much more.
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Thank you for your input

Go ahead and put on a wet aplication screen​ protector, you won't see the scratches at all. No anything you do will just make it worst.
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chakra said:
Go ahead and put on a wet aplication screen​ protector, you won't see the scratches at all. No anything you do will just make it worst.
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Do you have any suggestions for these type of screen protectors?

The Samsung s8 scratches so easily within a day I had a deep scratch on it and within 4 days I have 5 just from taking it in and out of my pocket. Not impressed as the s5 I've had for 2 years dropped it so many times and not a mark on the screen

Slowie08 said:
The Samsung s8 scratches so easily within a day I had a deep scratch on it and within 4 days I have 5 just from taking it in and out of my pocket. Not impressed as the s5 I've had for 2 years dropped it so many times and not a mark on the screen
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I was trying my hardest to be extremely careful with handling the phone. I haven't even taken the back plastic cover off yet. The only reason I took the front one off was cause it peeled off when I put it in my pocket (it was from Sprint and was completely clear)

I'm using a skin on the back of mine. No protector on the front yet and no scratches but I'm considering the official Samsung screen protector (Google it). Seen some good reviews even though I have protectors (especially film).

I always order a gadgetshield body protection; So the back side, front and al the way around the corners is protected for scratches. Has cost me 10 euro.
https://www.gadgetshieldz.com/samsung-galaxy-s8-screen-protectors-covers-cases.html

Can confirm screen is weak. Or at least the coating. Mine has fine scratches and one deep one. Used a s7 edge that didn't have any after a year so I'm surprised at how easily the s8 scratches.

seoulbrova said:
Can confirm screen is weak. Or at least the coating. Mine has fine scratches and one deep one. Used a s7 edge that didn't have any after a year so I'm surprised at how easily the s8 scratches.
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Yeah it really sucks. I don't have any feel ones yet, knock on wood, just some light ones. I'm OCD about my screen so I constantly look for scratches when I can only find them at certain angles

S8 easy scratch
After just two days of using my galaxy s8+ has a big scratch. And I took care not to stand with the keys etc.... VERY DISSPAPPOINTED ((

I dont know how you guys use your phones, I've had mine since 19 april without any case or screenprotector and there is not even one tiny scratch. Never put it on rough surfaces, and always put it alone in my pocket. I'm planning to get a case and screenprotector to not have to isolate it all the time tough.