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Normal for gprs to connect when already connected to wifi???

This doesnt seem normal to me as i dont remember this happening when i first got my 8125. When i go to internet explorer after i turn on wifi and connect to my home network it starts loading the page and then the connecting to gprs dialog box shows up. It still seems like it is using wifi but when i click on the wifi signal the gprs time meter is counting up. It seems to me like it shouldnt try to connect to gprs if the wifi signal is already picked up and connected. I thought i remembered reading about this somewhere but ive read so many topics in different places that i cant find it. Is this normal or should i do something to fix it? Thanks in advance.
Ty

anyone?

i just did this last night ..hopefully i rememebr the steps
but what you essentially have to do is remove the connection to the GPRS network and then itll stop connectinig to GPRS brb with an edit ill have to retrace my steps
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ok i think this is how i did it
tap start --settings -- connections tab -- then tap on connections and then make sure that there are no connections for GPRS i know its a little vague but i really forgot how i did it..

can't say that that helped me to much, sorry. I dont want to eliminate the gprs all together, i just dont want it to connect when im using wifi. Please help!

even with wifi on when it goes to sleep it will be the gprs that kicks in - pain in the butt :shock:

im just looking for a fix for this. Unfortunately my work doesnt have wifi so i cant test some things ive read here to see if it still does it. I have tried going into connections-network adapters- and selecting "the internet". Also, when i go to settings--connections--connections-advanced should i have media net, my isp, or my work selected? not sure if this has anything to do with my problem but i just want to make sure. Also, when i am connected to wifi and my gprs timer is also going, which is it using? I have an unlimited data plan so its not the biggest deal if its running but i just want to make sure im using wifi, not gprs.

RegistryWizard?
Are you using the program called "registry wizard"? I know one of the tweaks/registry edits is called GPRS always on. It might be the cause if one of the registry settings is telling the OS to always have a GPRS connection regardless of whether or not there is a WiFi connection or a program is requesting internet data...

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Are you using the program called "registry wizard"? I know one of the tweaks/registry edits is called GPRS always on. It might be the cause if one of the registry settings is telling the OS to always have a GPRS connection regardless of whether or not there is a WiFi connection or a program is requesting internet data...
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nope, I don't have that program...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=320173#320173
You will select either 'My work network' or 'My ISP' depending on which rom you're using. If MEdia Net is selected, it will use GPRS. To tell whether or not it will use GPRS on any of these settings, you hit the 'edit' button. Don't change anything, but check it out, and it will tell you whether it will connect to GPRS if anything is in there. For me, 'My ISP' has 'auto pick' which means if it finds wifi or wifi is enabled, it will use that first, if not then use GPRS. If you have a stock rom, 'My ISP' may not have anything in it, therefore it will use wifi, or nothing. Remember to associate any wireless router you have to either your 'work' or 'internet' profiles.

awsome, looks like that worked. One question though....am i affected in any way by not having it set to media net? Will my edge and everything still work the same if i leave it on my isp? Thanks for the help
Ty
EDIT: It works better than it did but every so often it trys to connect to edge but it usually doesnt unless im inactive for a bit online. Is this supposed to happen?

I now leave my setting set to ISP instead of MediaNet and at first it is just connected to wifi but then as soon as it is done loading a page gprs tries to connect again so i have to hit cancel like 6 or 7 times to stop gprs from connecting. After that it doesnt try to connect but i wish i could avoid this because its a pain when im just trying to find something real fast. I just downloaded opera today and only tried a few pages on my wifi network and from the couple minutes i used it i dont think it ever tried to connect to the gprs while i was using wifi. i will have to test this a little bit more to confirm but is there any way its IE that could be causing the gprs to try and connect even though it has a full wifi signal?

Cingular 8525 - Can we disable GPRS/EDGE and use only Wi-Fi ?

Is it possible to setup the 8525 so that it only connects to internet through Wi-Fi and not any of the other options? Based on some threads, it looked like Cingular has disabled this option, but I am not quite sure. Thanks.

The only way I was able to do it was to call Cingular Tech and have them disable the GPRS on their end, now if I go to PIE and the WiFi is off, the GPRS/EDGE Connection pop-up opens, then I get an error message saying the network could not be found and a dismiss icon....
The only way it will connect to IE is through WiFi now.

ringostar said:
Is it possible to setup the 8525 so that it only connects to internet through Wi-Fi and not any of the other options? Based on some threads, it looked like Cingular has disabled this option, but I am not quite sure. Thanks.
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if you go to settings then connection and delete the connection settings for gprs it will not connect and you can use wifi only

however i seem to keep getting gprs not connected error if i do so?

I'm having the same problem. I'm totally green to the high tech world. Heck this is my first attempt at anything greater than using my calculator function in a phone So if someone could walk me through what I need to do to set my phone up so I can connet through wifi i would reaaaally appreciate it.
I had Cingular put me on the no data plan (not even pay per use). In case that makes a difference.
Thanks in advance for the help.

All I did was go in to the connection settings and change the User name and Password. I do not get any error messages stating the network cannot be found. I get a login screen with User/Pass and Domain. I just click cancel and it drops back to IE.
Now I do not have to worry about accidentally connecting to their service.

well,we can very much achieve it -- In the internet settings in connections,select both of them to My ISP,edit it to nowap.cingular.com
Make sure setting is set to Internet,not work!
I did it and I use only wifi all the time!!

The previous solutions are not really workable for me since I don't want to delete my cellular data connection, I just want to be able to turn it on and off as I choose. With Windows Live, I can have a Wifi connection and turn off cellular data in the comm manager screen and it will just open the cellular connection again.
A hack to turn off the "auto connect" for the cellular data would be great. Make it like the BT or WIFI, where I have to go to the comm screen and turn it on. That choice would be great.
Anyhow, I am thinking of making the Work connection as the default, then deleting all work connections. Then when I actually want a cellular data connection, I could manually select it and say connect. I'm not sure if the applications will close it and try the work connection again or not. I will try it and post again, probably tomorrow.
MM

This works wonders:
http://www.benrichards.co.uk/?p=180
ETA: This is what I have been using to deal with gprs autoconnect on my 8525 and it's perfect for my uses. You just start the program and toggle on or off the data connections.

Gprs Disable
It really works thanks for your research

GPRS tries to connect when already connected to Wifi

Hi, i have a very strange and unpleasant problem with my Hermes.. At home I am using my wifi connection to receive mails etc. My Hermes connects to the wifi network normally, but when I want to use internet connection (IE, Outlook..) it will start GPRS. I have to turn wifi of and back on to be able to use it. It is pretty annoying as you can imagine. Now I am using latest Tytn WWE rom, but i have had same problems with T-mobile rom.
My old Wizard is connecting normally and has never done something stupid like this Do anyone have some clue what may cause this strange behaviour?

Have you confirmed that the home WiFi connection is configured as 'Connects to: The Internet'? In comm manager turn off the WiFI then go into settings/connections/Network Cards and you will be presented with all the networks used or previously found by your TyTn wireless card.
Select you named home wireless connection and you will be presented with the screen "Configure Wireless Network". Make sure that the entry against "Connects to:" i sset to The Internet - then press OK (top right), then dismiss the settings windows.
Try the connection again - it worked for me a while back. If already set at "connects to the Internet" then try deleting the settings and creating the entry again: press and hold on the connection (your home WiFi) then select "Remove Settings". Then turn on networked and set it up again remembering to select "connects to the Internet" when asked during the configuration of the WiFi connection. Of course you will again be prompted for a network key if you have a secure wireless router.
- if you all this then sorry but you didn't say. Hope it helps

I have already set it to connect to the internet few days ago. But i will try to remove those settings and do it again.. Hope it will solve the problem.
Thanks for your help. I'll report later..

naciniak said:
I have already set it to connect to the internet few days ago. But i will try to remove those settings and do it again.. Hope it will solve the problem.
Thank's for your help. I'll report later..
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Mine does the same thing and I am set the same way, even though it connects to GPRS etc it still uses the WiFi (ran speed test on IE to confirm)

Hi
I hear good things about Danielherrero's bandswitch app. This is a long thread and I think there are revisions along the way so best read through a sample of the pages:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844&highlight=danielherrero
Whether it will solve your particular issue I don't know - but worth a look?
Mike

mikechannon said:
Hi
I hear good things about Danielherrero's bandswitch app. This is a long thread and I think there are revisions along the way so best read through a sample of the pages:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844&highlight=danielherrero
Whether it will solve your particular issue I don't know - but worth a look?
Mike
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Hmm.. I am already using that band switcher. Really a great program but unfortunatelly it cannot solve this issue.
But.. I can see a light at the end of the tunnel I've deleted my network settings and than set it again. And now it seems to be working! Hmm.. cannot be quite sure if it isn't just lucky day, but I've tested it more than 10 times and it seems to be OK.
Anyway... thanks for your help

Hopefully it will continue to work.
PS Is "cancer man" still alive or have the ciggies killed him off?
Mike

Glad to hear it worked OK. I too found it was teh only way to get mine initially working - since deleting and recreating the link it has worked OK (3 mths plus)

Aaah.. I heard that cancer man is still alive. But.. trust no one Hope he will not follow the Marlboro Man..
And by the way.. After few hours it still seems to be working. Thanks guys!!

Out of a month of use it has happened to me only once. I just turned off wifi then turned it back on. I believe the tytn is not recognising that it has a valid Internet connection.

Wifi & Data Connection

Hi,
Anyone know if there is any setting that disables data connection automatically switch on?
I find it quite annoying at some point, i was using wifi to surf the net as well as having window live messenger on. But once i dc-ed from wifi (it auto reconnect back to access point) and the data connection automatically switch on (cost money for data connection), which i don't want it to happen.
Please assist, thank you.

seriously bro...............
use the search feature
you can find it on top. In "search by keywords" type "data connection"
select "search titles only"
in the forum list select blackstone {i presume you have blackstone}
hit search
click on the post closest to your issue
tada
read................
if you still can't find any solution to your problem then post your question

Souma said:
Hi,
Anyone know if there is any setting that disables data connection automatically switch on?
I find it quite annoying at some point, i was using wifi to surf the net as well as having window live messenger on. But once i dc-ed from wifi (it auto reconnect back to access point) and the data connection automatically switch on (cost money for data connection), which i don't want it to happen.
Please assist, thank you.
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You can also download HD Tweak it allows you to do this, also check what your email etc settings are as It shouldnt connect unless it needs to

Opps~! my bad fellow gurus
I guess the search sure is useful.
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Good day gentlemen!

Automatically?
I'm very lazy so is there a solution to automatically block the data-connection while using wifi?
Or maybe you can tell me how to detect wifi being turned on so i can write my own program...
Thanks

Auto connect.........

Hello, I am come from HK
I just got the phone....but don't know why the phone always auto connect to internet. Then I turn off the data connection, but after a few minutes, it will auto connect again..........
Anyone can help me???
thanks so much!!

kayzee said:
Hello, I am come from HK
I just got the phone....but don't know why the phone always auto connect to internet. Then I turn off the data connection, but after a few minutes, it will auto connect again..........
Anyone can help me???
thanks so much!!
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Kayzee,
This is caused by your Internet settings.
1. Go to Programs/settings/all settings ( choose it from the menu on the bottom right corner ).
2. Tap Connections, within that tap once more Connections
3. Tap Advanced, than Select Networks
4. Under "Programs that automatically connect..", select My work Network instead of the mobile connection and tap OK.
From now on, it will never start data connection when trying to go to Internet, but you can always start it manually from the Comm manager.
I hope it helps, good luck !

If you search the forum, you'll find quite a few of solutions. But what works for me are:
1) BsB Tweaks - use it to disable the "data connection" (3G)
2) WiFi Toggle - use it to toggle the WiFi on & off
In "data services" turn everything to manual update, e.g tweeter, stocks, ...
Keeping the wifi on constantly doesn't actually consume much battery life and it's only the 3G really sucks the battery juice.

jarbi said:
Kayzee,
This is caused by your Internet settings.
1. Go to Programs/settings/all settings ( choose it from the menu on the bottom right corner ).
2. Tap Connections, within that tap once more Connections
3. Tap Advanced, than Select Networks
4. Under "Programs that automatically connect..", select My work Network instead of the mobile connection and tap OK.
From now on, it will never start data connection when trying to go to Internet, but you can always start it manually from the Comm manager.
I hope it helps, good luck !
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This doesn't work. Every time I check the Internet connection by loading a random webpage via the sense UI it still has an Internet connection, even if I doublechecked before to see if the Internet connection setting were off. This is frustrating

kayzee said:
Hello, I am come from HK
I just got the phone....but don't know why the phone always auto connect to internet. Then I turn off the data connection, but after a few minutes, it will auto connect again..........
Anyone can help me???
thanks so much!!
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just uncheck the "auto download " option in weather tab in tf3d