So I'm a US citizen currently doing a lot of work in India. I'm planning on going back to the US in a few days and I'm gonna get a N1. My question is, suppose I'm in India when a new update or something from HTC or Google comes out, would I be able to update my phone from India( since the phone is not launched here yet)? the reason I ask this is because I have gone to the google page to order the N1 while in India and it says that my country isn't supported for N1 sales... wouldn't want to see that happen when I want to get a new update for the OS... what do you guys think?
Previous Android updates for the G1, for example, have been downloaded from google servers. You phone should check every so often to see if there's an update and download it if it's available. Your location shouldn't matter although I'd make sure you didn't do it over 3g/gprs if you are roaming internationally due to the cost - do it over wifi.
First of all I'd check to see if the frequencies used in India are supported by the device.
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Hello everyone, Ive been a long time reader of xda, have an htc advantage, htc touch dual, and an htc wing. I have flashed more roms to my advantage than i could ever remember, sadly I forgot my old username so here I am with a new one
Lately I have only been using my advantage as a bedside alarm clock, and I want to try Android. I prefer the body lines of the hero, but I would like the future option of using 3g. I am in Alaska and using tmobile. I would like to switch to ATT at some point in the future, and currently there is NO 3g service where i am in alaska with either providers. From what I can tell, the Rogers version of the magic is hands down the one to get if you want to run the hero rom. Ive read many posts that say it lags with the 192mb versions. I also want to get as full of a google experience as possible...OTA updates, Access to the Android Marketplace, google maps etc. Can anyone confirm that if I purchased an unlocked rogers magic off ebay, would I be able to get OTA updates over an edge connection in the USA? I do believe that the rogers magic should have the bands to work with ATT 3g right? As I said, there is no 3g service here, but when i switch to ATT later, and travel I would like to utilize the 3g. Just looking for some insight on what will more than likely be my next phone. Planning on purchasing tonight if we can come up with some answers!
The Rogers Magic will run on AT&T but not on T-MO.
You get access to the Market but not paid apps, you'll have to root to get full access.
You wont get OTA updates from Rogers, I'm a customer and they told me no go on OS updates. Have to contact HTC for that, but if your rooted does it matter?
Flash the latest/greatest ROM.
Clinton
ok well The Rogers has the 288MB you want:
and it also works on tmobile edge but on 3G however it works on att edge/3G. so if your thinking of swicthing over to att than this is the phone for you.
Ok, so if I root the phone, then I would have complete access to the android market? If purchasing an unlocked Rogers Magic, do i need to worry about getting one of the "perfect spl"s that isnt rootable yet, or is that only an issue for other versions?
Yep you'll have full access if you install "Market Enabler" after you root. I have not heard of any Rogers Magic haveing the "perfect SPL" I think so far it's only for the MyTouch and Hero.
Clinton
ClintonH is correct all available Roger Magics in the market are rootable.
Awesome, thanks for the great information. Looks like I will be purchasing one from ebay this weekend, unless you guys can recommend any reputable online shops to order from. I'll be just using the edge connection on it for a little while until i figure out how im going to get outta my tmobile contract...I currently have two active numbers under my contract with tmobile Not in much of a hurry though as i'll only be able to utilize the 3g when im travelling.
I actually have one fs on Ebay right now. Check out dgravo27 . It is the Rogers version.
Looks like yours isnt for sale anymore Dgravo, I just bought it! Too many other ones listed with 288 mb ram, however, they have the vodaphone logo and I dont think half the sellers even know whats inside their phones.
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you lucky sods we are not getting this phone or a version of it here in the U.K or Europe. So my ? is what’s the possibility of this phone working on our networks as i am thinking of getting one from you lucky sods. cheers jez
The EVO is a CDMA phone, so if you could somehow unlock the phone and then get it activated on a UK CDMA network(do such things exist?) you could get it working.
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The EVO is a CDMA phone, so if you could somehow unlock the phone and then get it activated on a UK CDMA network(do such things exist?) you could get it working.
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Hello Tilton53
been looking and it appears it will not work on our network and as usual HTC are blind to our requirements and have no plans to launch a version for us. It amazes me how someone who bleets on about how they listen to their users always miss the mark for us. Maybe they will wake up one day and make a phone like this and make it world wide universal. I mean I don’t like apple in any sense but a least they make their products universal and available world wide. Cheers jez
P.S maybe someone here will crack the issue so we can use them and get it from the U.S.A
The UK only has GSM networks, so it's a no-go for you guys. And quit complaining about missing the mark. We've always had to wait months and months for HTC to release their handsets in the US after their European release. I'm sure HTC has something cooking for the rest of the world if the EVO takes off.
Any chance the DVP will see an update for those of us with unlocked ones?
Microsoft is starting to push it out to the masses, so just wondering.
I doubt it.
No one knows. Hopefully we'll get the cabs soon so we can manually push it with cabsender.
Did they just say today that all 1st and 1.5 gen phones will get 7.8?? Guess time to update to 8107 to prepare!
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No one knows. Hopefully we'll get the cabs soon so we can manually push it with cabsender.
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Did they just say today that all 1st and 1.5 gen phones will get 7.8?? Guess time to update to 8107 to prepare!
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What I've heard is that once you have the 7.8 OS on there, all future updates will be delivered OTA, bypassing the carrier entirely. (I guess that means you'll have to be connected to wifi.)
Once WP8 is ready, that'll be about the time that they release WP7.8. The carrier will still have to greenlight 7.10.8107, 7.10.8773, and (whatever 7.8 is) before Zune will allow you to update.
So hopefully all the handset makers will care enough about their long-dead product lines to update to 7.8 to take the carriers out of the Windows Phone update equation.
Personally I'm going to wait on the 8107 update for the DVP until T-Mobile greenlights it.
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What I've heard is that once you have the 7.8 OS on there, all future updates will be delivered OTA, bypassing the carrier entirely. (I guess that means you'll have to be connected to wifi.)
Once WP8 is ready, that'll be about the time that they release WP7.8. The carrier will still have to greenlight 7.10.8107, 7.10.8773, and (whatever 7.8 is) before Zune will allow you to update.
So hopefully all the handset makers will care enough about their long-dead product lines to update to 7.8 to take the carriers out of the Windows Phone update equation.
Personally I'm going to wait on the 8107 update for the DVP until T-Mobile greenlights it.
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its carrier dependent or manufacturer dependent?
my DVP is unlocked and running up here in Canada so whats to say I will receive any of these updates?
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its carrier dependent or manufacturer dependent?
my DVP is unlocked and running up here in Canada so whats to say I will receive any of these updates?
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Well if your DVP is factory unlocked, you'll probably get any updates made available. I had a factory unlocked version and no issues upgrading all the way to 8107. Not so fortunate with my TMO unlocked version though. Had to force the update as I don't have much faith in waiting for TMO after phone has reached EOL with them... and Dell too. Anyways, last I read about 7.8 is that it won't go through carriers but who really knows...
Also in Canada BTW :highfive:
I think they're always going to TALK to the carriers about the updates, if for no other reason than to make sure their preloaded apps will run as expected, but I think from 7.8 and on the update schedule will be primarily dictated by when each manufacturer's hardware guys finish testing.
The 7.8 update is going to be delivered in exactly the same way as all previous updates, but after that all future updates will be delivered over wifi, and irrespective which carrier you're on. I kind of feel like 7.8 will be the last update for Windows CE handsets, but at least they're leaving it open
I contacted Dell Care about this, and according to their reply they are unsure whether we will receive any of these updates including Windows Tango Refresh 7.5 or 7.8
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Well if your DVP is factory unlocked, you'll probably get any updates made available. I had a factory unlocked version and no issues upgrading all the way to 8107. Not so fortunate with my TMO unlocked version though. Had to force the update as I don't have much faith in waiting for TMO after phone has reached EOL with them... and Dell too. Anyways, last I read about 7.8 is that it won't go through carriers but who really knows...
Also in Canada BTW :highfive:
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Please can you send me the step by step instructions so I can force the update on my venue pro too!
All the info you need should be in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497142
upgrading to TANGO with Zune...
DVP 16 GB No-Brand Italy
Updated done! no problem...
tethering NOT present, I hoped because with Tango it is introduced in Nokia Lumia 800...
And for peeps like me without a non-branded DVP, here's for sending them cabs to force update to Tango:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1736993
No update for me yet and I have an unbranded AT&T compatible version.
OOps my bad. Repeat post. Please delete mods. :silly:
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No update for me yet and I have an unbranded AT&T compatible version.
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To be clear, when we say "unbranded" are we talking about a phone without a logo on it? Or a phone that doesn't come with the AT&T apps that install at the last stage of setup? I don't think any of the DVPs had a logo on them, and to my understanding, if the phone was ever locked to a carrier, you have to abide by that carrier's update schedule (*excluding hacks of course.)
Is that wrong?
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To be clear, when we say "unbranded" are we talking about a phone without a logo on it? Or a phone that doesn't come with the AT&T apps that install at the last stage of setup? I don't think any of the DVPs had a logo on them, and to my understanding, if the phone was ever locked to a carrier, you have to abide by that carrier's update schedule (*excluding hacks of course.)
Is that wrong?
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Yeah no AT&T apps, not sold subsidized, 16GB unlocked version with AT&T compatible bands. I was able to get the Mango update right away by doing the network disconnection trick.
I think I'll just send the cabs over.
The only physically branded devices dell made recently was the Streak7 on tmo, besides that they never had any external markings or even a custom carrier box.
(The S7 had a single tmo label on the back and that was it)
The rest is more or less correct though, carrier branded = carrier apps + carrier schedule.
Tmo initally had a good relationship with dell (launch partners for the S7 and VP) but then it went south and they blocked the HC update for the S7 and 7740+ for the VP.
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upgrading to TANGO with Zune...
DVP 16 GB No-Brand Italy
Updated done! no problem...
tethering NOT present, I hoped because with Tango it is introduced in Nokia Lumia 800...
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no go for me i had an unlocked one from dell direct, no tango =(
I sent the cabs using cabsender. Worked fine.
Is there really a different marshmallow update for moto pure that's on t mobile ? That's why I bought an unlocked phone to start with. T mobile has always been bad about updates. Need answers please
No, update should be the same, only reason we haven't gotten it yet on T-Mobile is because T-Mobile hasn't approved/certified VoLTE/Band 12/etc for their network.
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No, update should be the same, only reason we haven't gotten it yet on T-Mobile is because T-Mobile hasn't approved/certified VoLTE/Band 12/etc for their network.
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What's the implication of that for us here..would you install it by removing SIM & download over Wi-Fi or are you waiting for a more official rollout to T-mobile (or not installing it for other reasons people are complaining about like Wi-Fi+browser+call network issues)?
MM is running great for me. Sideloaded it when it was first posted as a soak test. That update was apparently for Verizon/Sprint users but look at the update being rolled out to AT&T users, its the same as the soak test. Either T-Mobile certifies the current update and we end up getting the same exact update as everyone else, or T-Mobile tells Motorola it doesn't meet their requirements and Motorola rolls out a new build with the specifications set by T-Mobile, which Verizon and all other carrier users will get also since the builds are not carrier specific and neither is the device.
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MM is running great for me. Sideloaded it when it was first posted as a soak test. That update was apparently for Verizon/Sprint users but look at the update being rolled out to AT&T users, its the same as the soak test. Either T-Mobile certifies the current update and we end up getting the same exact update as everyone else, or T-Mobile tells Motorola it doesn't meet their requirements and Motorola rolls out a new build with the specifications set by T-Mobile, which Verizon and all other carrier users will get also since the builds are not carrier specific and neither is the device.
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Hmm so you've been running MM for weeks on MXP on T-Mobile with no issues & worst case scenario everyone would get another update later that meets T-Mobile requirements so no reason not to install?
What about the people complaining about slow browser performance-Wi-Fi-call-network issues?
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...prod_answer_detail/a_id/109124/p/30,6720,9541
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/product_page/faqs/p/30,6720,9541/#/how_do_i
-Thnx for your feedback
My browser works fine. I rarely get any issues and if there is any, it's just slight lag on this website. WiFi and calling is fine for me. I do get band 12 when I'm at work in certain areas but I'm on band 4 99% of the time
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My browser works fine. I rarely get any issues and if there is any, it's just slight lag on this website. WiFi and calling is fine for me. I do get band 12 when I'm at work in certain areas but I'm on band 4 99% of the time
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So you have no regrets.. good to read.
I mainly use Boat+floating+Chrome browsers but occasionally use others..any ideas why people are reporting browser issues & you experience a slight lag only on this website?
Why is T-Mobile taking so long to certify the update?
Still no t mobile update. Thinking about pulling sim and doing update. But if and when t mobile certifies it will it update again any thoughts ?
So yeah about a year ago when I purchased my International S7 I was so happy and thinking my friends got subsidized ATT and T-Mo versions of S7 will have bloatware and they wont update to 7 for years and I couldn't be more wrong. Both ATT and T-Mobile units got updated already and they're laughing at my international model and all bloatware all of they can be simply disabled and stuff. I never buy international version again (Unless Exynos9 is so OP I have to get it)
On top of that I looked at my CSC and it's from PAK (Pakistan) I mean got damn it I be all "stan" countries getting update last if any at all. I wish it was one of the European countries. Anyhow bottom line is this. The reason I got International version to get UPDATES because thinking SIM-FREE version don't have to mess with carriers blocking and tweaking updates. Well WRONG. And Bloatware like I said features can be disabled and if you think about programs that pre-installed, just disable them or something and space that they take .... I mean come on now, grab a sd card.
I am REALLY upset on this, I was hoping to get update for MY version of the phone without ODIN re-flash crap. I think I am forced at this point to update manually. SAD
can't you just update your international model once to another European Baseband DQB7 or whatever CSC type so when that 'chain' gets updates, you get updates too? Does it not work like that?