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Okay, I've pretty much been self help during my tenure of android exploiting, to call what I do hacking is an insult to cyan, lucid and JF and all the work they are doing. but I want some opinions on what I should do next.
I know there is some other SPLs up there, I'm currently running the HardSPL (a modified version on the Enginneering SPL distributed with the ADP). Should I upgrade to a newer SPL (I.E. Haykuro), is there even a point seeing as I have A2SD with a class 6 chip? Note I do intend on staying with Cyan's JF builds.
I also understand upgrading to some SPLs require a newer Radio then I probably have. I believe I can find the radio version on the Camera + Power screen. What are the benifits to upgrading the Radio, and should I upgrade my Radio even if I decide the SPL isn't worth it?
Prodigal Sun, Hero Port, Aero, and Black Ice are all different themes, however I can't decide if I want to use one and which one. Prodigal Sun is my favorite by far, however I plan on using AHome, so I'm not sure it it will work. I also like Aeros toolbar up top look. Any other Themes that someone might suggest would be great. Remember I'm on JF 1.51 Cyan Edition
Okay, also this seems like a wierd question but as far as ADP vs .odex, which is better and what difference is there really? ADP seems to run faster even though .odex is supposed to be "optimized."
Thanks for any and all inputs!
dont anyone reply all at once now... >.>
I wouldn't upgrade to Haykuro's new SPL. First, you need to make sure you have the PVT and not DVT board (Hold Camera when booting and you'll see which one you have). If you have PVT, you can install it. If you have DVT, it will brick your device.
Next, it's been reported that once you upgrade to the new SPL, you can't downgrade your radio or it will brick your device as well.
Haykuro isn't as active anymroe since he's stopped developing ROMs so I assume there won't be much support for the SPL without Haykuro around much.
I think the risk outweighs the benefits at this point. That is just my 2 cents though. I would like to update to the new SPL as well =[
Stryder5 said:
I wouldn't upgrade to Haykuro's new SPL. First, you need to make sure you have the PVT and not DVT board (Hold Camera when booting and you'll see which one you have). If you have PVT, you can install it. If you have DVT, it will brick your device.
Next, it's been reported that once you upgrade to the new SPL, you can't downgrade your radio or it will brick your device as well.
Haykuro isn't as active anymroe since he's stopped developing ROMs so I assume there won't be much support for the SPL without Haykuro around much.
I think the risk outweighs the benefits at this point. That is just my 2 cents though. I would like to update to the new SPL as well =[
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Seconds that on the SPL:
I already bricked a phone.
Won't be trying it again until they 100% resolve the updating issue.
Stryder5 said:
I wouldn't upgrade to Haykuro's new SPL. First, you need to make sure you have the PVT and not DVT board (Hold Camera when booting and you'll see which one you have). If you have PVT, you can install it. If you have DVT, it will brick your device.
Next, it's been reported that once you upgrade to the new SPL, you can't downgrade your radio or it will brick your device as well.
Haykuro isn't as active anymroe since he's stopped developing ROMs so I assume there won't be much support for the SPL without Haykuro around much.
I think the risk outweighs the benefits at this point. That is just my 2 cents though. I would like to update to the new SPL as well =[
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Thanks for the heads up. I read that message like 2 minutes after I decided to flash the radio and SPL. I got lucky I just dodged a bullet I guess. My system is running without bricking so I should be good.
Stryder5 said:
Next, it's been reported that once you upgrade to the new SPL, you can't downgrade your radio or it will brick your device as well.
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Quick question: Why would anyone want to downgrade their radio?
I keep hearing this come up when people are discussing whether or not to flash to H's SPL and I never understood it.
they might not want to, however what if a file they goto load has the old radio in it, ie the RC29 file. that being the case they want to make sure they load up the hardspl or engineering spl then flash the update.zip or the nbh file that has the old radio in it.
Denkai said:
they might not want to, however what if a file they goto load has the old radio in it, ie the RC29 file. that being the case they want to make sure they load up the hardspl or engineering spl then flash the update.zip or the nbh file that has the old radio in it.
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Ah good point sir
You don't really need the new spl, unless your going to run hero build then you may want to. Dude, jf, cyanogen builds don't need it. I just flashed it to try hero and to get more space.
I didn't notice a diffrence when I flashed it. I was run CM 3.3.8 before and after. Thanks for lucids script tip
i have a mytouch, 32b magic, with the "perfect spl".
i have downgraded and installed amon ra's 1.3.? recovery, i believe all i need to do is install the enganeering(however you spell it) spl but i can't download from rapidshare as i'm a free user and it keeps saying try later. i don't have money to become a premium user, is there anyone out there with the spl that doesn't mind sending it to me via email?? valefour611.at.aol.com
this would be greatly appreciated.
one last thing, i don't know how to check if i have root access... the steps i've mentioned are all i've done, is there something i'm missing other than installing the ENG spl before i attempt to flash a rom???
i came from a G1 that i downgraded and rooted with the whole typing "telnetd" and what not... it was reflashed over and over without any problems... installed the danger spl and redone everything when cyanogen released the "bare bones" roms so please don't talk smack about searching and all that junk because i am posting this as my last resort. been working on the mytouch for hours and got the downgrade and recovery from searching but now i'm just stuck without the proper spl.
any help is greatly appreciated, thanx.
sounds good man... lol
anywho, i don't really know what i did but powering on with the "back" button held down gave me these readings:
HBOOT - 1.33.2005
CPLD - 10
RADIO - 2.22.19.26I
does that mean i'm good to go and will be able to flash roms now??
i was looking for roms and the sapphire forums are hella clutered... what's a good rom to flash??? i like the cyanogen roms but don't know which one to try or where to find them as it seems he doesn't post how to flash his roms to 32b users on here(???). any rom will do, just need a name of one that isn't laggy.
thanx again.
yeah, thanx for all the help guys.
i got everything working flashed the latest cyanogen rom. ^_^
NB: As my account is a new one I have not been allowed to post URL links, will update once I am allowed to do that!
Android Phone Info
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.76.0007 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-6.35.07.29
Background
I bought my HTC Magic in Singapore (through SingTel) about 6 months ago. About a month ago I used the HTC software ROM update to update my HTC Android 1.5 to HTC Sense UI 1.5 (NB: the android firmware version remained the same but I am now using HTCs Sense UI).
I finally decided to root yesterday and since then the problems have begun!
Just so things were "clean" I restored my phone to factory settings. However, I cannot figure out how to go back to the stock 1.5 (ie. the one that DOES NOT use Sense UI). So, now I am on a basic (without any modifications) version of Sense UI.
One-Click Method
I then tried this to root my phone with the 1-click method
When I click on “Backup recovery image” I got the “Failed” message. So, I clicked on the hidden asterix and tried to flash the image but I got the same message again. Essentially, this did not work for me. I posted on the comment thread (just yesterday) but have not gotten a response on it yet.
Method on XDA Forum
Then I looked around and found this more "complicated" method and found an HTC Sapphire Hacking wiki post which seemed easy enough to follow.
I generally use linux but just to be sure I followed the guide to the letter I booted up XP.
Everything worked fine until I got to this command: C:\AndroidSDK> fastboot boot recovery-rom.img
I got the following error message: fastboot failed, remote: not allow
Solutions?
I have looked all over this forum and a few others and have found this can be because of the "perfected SPL", however, as far as I know my SPL is 1.76.0007 and NOT the 1.33 "problem" SPLs.
I have NO idea what I should do now. I really want to root my phone but I am completely stuck as the simple method does not work, nor does the "complex" method
Any help on this matter would be very much appreciated
HTC Magic 32A
The same issues with me, i am currently stuck with the Sense UI with no way to root my magic and i have tried everything possible.
If you find a solution please do let me know
Is yours singtel? I think the updated Sense UI rom may have blocked it. I can't find a way of getting back to the stock rom.
I am not sure if it is singtel, but when I first got it before installing the sense rom, the boot screen says AirTel. I am not sure if this is the same but that's what I see.
There is nothing wrong with the Sense UI rom but I just need to have root.
Anyway I will keep looking for solution because I am sure that one of these developers will eventually find a way to root but till then I might just get the nexus one. From what am hearing and reading the phone is pretty simple to unlock and root.
Don't really want to buy a new phone just to root!
Airtel may be from India
Yeh, I think it is from there because I few forums I have visited mentioned India.
Well am not only getting the nexus one for the root capabilities, is just that the performance of the phone is amazing and I am a loyal fan/customer to HTC and Android and I cant wait to have one of that bad boy for myself.
perfected spl me thinks
Do you think? But, I thought it was only certain 1.33 builds?
Can no-one help with rooting my phone?
I have the weekend and I'd be willing to try something complicated.
Actually Singtel has given 12gb free data per month which means that wifi tethering is a really reasonable option and I want to set this up. Hence, I would really like the ability to root my phone.
There's (as for now) no way to root that SPL.
yeah same here,im also from singapore and having problems rooting.
could one of you technology gurus help us out?
seems like a waste if we cant root this phone =(
Wouldn't say it's a waste haha. But, I would like to use 1.6 (and then later 2.1) and also perhaps use tethering and other cool features!
PurpleFries said:
This is how i got mine working from perfected spl->custom rom
If you want a different rom, dont follow the last 2 links, and find whatever you want to flash, after the first 2 links you will have a non-perfected spl and be able to flash whatever your heart desires.
There are easier ways to do this if you are not running windows 7. Apparently theres a way using htc sync, but i cant get it working, even with all of the fixes that people have claimed work for them
PurpleFries said:
u can have a sense ui running on 1.5, if you are only concerned with how it looks. Just flash the cursorsence rom, if u have 32a phone. ensure u dont have a perfect spl. If you did the rogers dream->magic switch, likely you have a 32a phone with 1.33.0010 perfect spl. you must get rid of this first.
here's some links to help you out as i did this process yesterday. took me a helluva long time.
Goldcard Method
Fix perfected spl using this goldcard
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT RADIO AND SPL!!!!!.
Radio and spl upgrade
Cursorsence
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For the video in that link, watch up until the point where he tests the goldcard by putting it back into his computer to see if it opens. You don't need to follow his instructions past there
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This is a direct copypasta of one of my other posts, so sorry if some of it doesnt have anythign to do with you.
Just follow the guide in the second link after making a goldcard using the video in the first link.
MAKE SURE TO FOLLOW EVERYTHING EXACTLY!!!!!
Will that goldcard method work? I mean I know there are never any guarantees but I'd like a general idea if you can manage it of whether it'll work or not. Don't really want to waste hours on it as it seems REALLY complicated!
abhiroopb said:
Will that goldcard method work? I mean I know there are never any guarantees but I'd like a general idea if you can manage it of whether it'll work or not. Don't really want to waste hours on it as it seems REALLY complicated!
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It doesn't work so don't waste your time. I've tried
Is there NO method to root this at all?
my touch 3g fender need root
hello over the past couple of days I seen many ways to root the 32a but I tried and still no luck.Does anyone have a guaranteed way of getting this working.I thought the process was going to be simple.To jailbreak a Iphone all you all to do is donwload the software and click on the file that simple why can't teh android platform be the same
ermm same as me ... using same version but mine is Malaysia unit
I use a HTC Magic 32B, i know this is a pretty noob question, but i keep seeing you MUST have the newest radio,
My Radio- 2.22.19.26I
I'm not sure where the SPL is.. LOL
Any help is really appreciated, Thanks guys!
From my knowledge, whenever I see newest radio it is the 6.35.xx which you should not even touch because you're on the 32B. I believe you can use 3.22.xx but you should research that yourself and see what other 32B users are using. I'm 32A so don't just trust everything I just said! You might brick lol
The SPL is the HBOOT that you'll see, it's something similar to 1.xx.xxxx
Since you didn't even know where the SPL is, do some research before asking the most simple questions which can be found with a simple search! You don't wanna be like the other members who don't even bother searching, then decide to flash crap they don't know to their phone which ends up with a beautiful brick! so first, I'd suggest you not play with SPL/Radio yet (most likely to brick), Then I'd recommend you to do some MORE research
cyanogenmod [dot] com/home/cyanogenmod-6-0-0-rc1
forum.xda-developers [dot] com/showthread.php?t=722801
Ive had my HTC Magic (Rogers with HTC sense and 32A) for just over a month now and ive been really looking forward to hacking my phone and putting all those nice custom roms.
But the thing is, i cant seem to get a proper understanding of what the heck i do first. Ive been searching for a while and all i seem to find are guides for already experienced users. All the "easy to read" guides are out dated and seem to be for the other magics and not the Rogers one for HTC sense.
So since hte new CM6 Froyo rom is out for the magic, i figured ill actually make a topic this time and try to figure out what to do. If anyone can offer me some help, it would be greatly appreciated!
My phone info:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.76.0010 (SAPP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-6.35.10.18
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I'm in the exact same boat here, I've got a Rogers Magic with the same radio + SPL.
From what I've gathered, this guide seems to be what applies most closely to us: wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_G1/Dream/Magic32A_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod#6.35.x_Radios
(sorry as new user it won't let me post a real link )
I would love to get Froyo on my phone too, as waiting for Rogers to release updates is proving to be very frustrating (and surely they will be polluted with garbage Rogers "apps" anyway).
I've still got just over 2 years left on my contract and can not really afford to brick my phone, so anything I try I'll have to be pretty confident that it should work :S. Let me know if you find anything further zoltrix, I'll be sure to do the same!
|Black_BoX| said:
I'm in the exact same boat here, I've got a Rogers Magic with the same radio + SPL.
From what I've gathered, this guide seems to be what applies most closely to us: wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_G1/Dream/Magic32A_Firmware_to_CyanogenMod#6.35.x_Radios
(sorry as new user it won't let me post a real link )
I would love to get Froyo on my phone too, as waiting for Rogers to release updates is proving to be very frustrating (and surely they will be polluted with garbage Rogers "apps" anyway).
I've still got just over 2 years left on my contract and can not really afford to brick my phone, so anything I try I'll have to be pretty confident that it should work :S. Let me know if you find anything further zoltrix, I'll be sure to do the same!
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Hmm, well that looks alright. Im sure its a lot harder than it seems. Ill give it a go once some advanced android users can confirm that's what we need to do.
Thanks for the link!
Alright well i tried to setup adb which led me here:
www [dot] mydigitallife [dot] info/2009/08/24/workaround-for-htc-hero-sync-problem-in-windows-7/
now i tried playing around with HTC sync, and now my phone does nothing once connected via usb to my laptop.
I get no notification telling me i need to mount my sd card. I tried different cords, different ports and different computers. Tried fooling around with the settings on my phone and i still get nothing.
What did i do?!
Same boat as the guys above. I have experience in rooting the g1 but this mytouch 3g uses different radios and spl's from what I'm used to and I wanna make sure I upgrade it correctly and not brick the phone. If someone could just post a quick step by step that on how to upgrade to CM6 it would be much appreciated! BTW I have already rooted the device and managed to get CM 5.0.8 up and running but after I flashed CM6 the device just sits on the Mytouch screen.
My Devices is:
Sapphire PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0006(SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
Thanks for your help
For the guys with the Rogers 32A's...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627384&highlight=Rogers
To the dude with the MyTouch.....sorry.
And this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713878
nice links. which should i lookat first? the ones posted by black_box or the ones posted by tbrummell?
Also, anyone know why my phone wont promt me to mount the sd card when i plug it into my computer anymore?
i was thinking about doing a factory wipe incase i messed up a setting, but i dont know how to back up my data!
zoltrix, I got mine rooted and a 2.2 ROM up and running!
Essentially I followed this guide: rootyourmagic32a.blogspot.com/2010/04/root-htc-magic.html
Is it pretty much identical to the steps in the "6.35" section of the guide I posted in my earlier post (except it continues further to revert radio down, which I didn't want to do with the ROM I chose.)
The toughest parts for me really were getting the goldcard created (the process itself wasn't difficult, but it didn't work properly until the 3rd SD card I tried using), and getting HTC Sync to connect properly while try to run the RUU update.
I chose the FroyoRider 0.6 ROM - everything seems to be working pretty well except the is no support for the camera/video recording, hopefully that will come in a later version.
Just figured I'd let you know since we've got identical phones and it can be hard to find relevant information on these forums without digging around for hours. If you have any questions/problems let me know I'll answer the best I can.
alright man, good to hear!
ill def do it as soon as i get my replacement phone
my usb port only charges and refuses to transfer data..
woo, i got my replacement.
i'll probably try to root it this weekend
Just a question, but is a Nandroid backup the same idea as an OS image on a computer? Once you restore the image/backup its back to how it was befor any changes?
And can i make a nandroid backup before rooting anything or installing a new rom?
Yes, Nandroid is similar to taking a snapshot image of a pc with Ghost or Acronis, or something similar.
Here is a new procedure to root, looks damn simple too:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_911_Patched
No, you cannot take a Nandroid image until you have the custom recovery installed. And once you do that your phone is wiped and the original OS is gone.
tbrummell said:
Yes, Nandroid is similar to taking a snapshot image of a pc with Ghost or Acronis, or something similar.
Here is a new procedure to root, looks damn simple too:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_911_Patched
No, you cannot take a Nandroid image until you have the custom recovery installed. And once you do that your phone is wiped and the original OS is gone.
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Wow i was literally just bout to use the goldcard method. I made the card and anything.
Ill follow that. Thanks! Also, now that i have the goldcard made, i can still use it as a normal SD card right? OR should i reformat it first?
I'd reformat it first.
Cool
Also, can you someone look over that wiki link and confirm its correct for a ROGERS Magic? Im reading about it and comparing to the Blogspot tutorial and they use two differnt eng spl's?
EDIT: It also has a part telling me to "COnfirm i have the 3.x radio" when in fact, all Roger's magic's have 6.x
SO i posted the same question in the topic about the new hacking method and this is the response i got:
ezterry said:
Good thing the process is for the DREAM not the magic.. because otherwise I'd be doing something really risky installing a 1.33.* SPL with the 6.x radio..
If you want to root the magic either use the signed leaked rom with a gold card like every one else:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5526163&postcount=1
Or be a dare devil and risk the Magic (w/ 6.x radio) version of the exploid hack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7340733&postcount=306
(In theory it will get root.. the question is did I miss something in the process having not used a rogers magic myself.
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So, do NOT do that if you are using hte Magic because it is for the Dream. Instead use hte gold card.
Now i have to redo my goldcard!