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sending double sms/ text messages ????

ehh ive got a weird problem (arent they all )
when i sent 1 texmessage/sms the otherside receives 2 messages (2 of the same )..
any ideas ?? what dit i do wrong ?? wrong configuration ??
plz help
greetz jason

This used to happen to me before upgrading to the AUK2 firmware, I think its to do with the phone losing the UTMS signel before comfermation that the message is sent and falling back to using the 2/2.5G network.
I could be wrong but thats what I seemed to notice when it was happening to me.
shift

Yeah I used to only see one sms go but mates told me they were getting 2.
The latest rom updates (xdx exec one in my case) solved the isuse for me too!

Hi, I had the same problem with Orange UK. I've updated to their latest ROM version and it all seems fine now.

sounds about right..
this forum is just great.. you can find every awnser of every question here ..
i simunlocked my T-mobile mda pro and put in my orange sim..
and guess what i couldnt send MMS (it uses UMTS i think ?)
an my girlfriend said that she gets al my smsses double ..
so i think when my T-mobile account activates (11-july )
the probs will go away. (keeps fingers crossed )
OR ....
is there an easy an safe way to change te umts settings so my mda pro will pick up the signal and stuff..
SAFE AND EASY is the key
greetz and thanx a lot.

Dutch subroute, me dutch to.
Do you use the dutch word "wel", like "test eens of hij het nu wel doet"
On all my versions from XDA-I to qtec9090 with several roms, eacht time I type "wel", the PDA will "autocorrect" this to the english verb "we'll"
The added quotes cuts the sms message in two.
on the bottomline of your screen you can see how many characters your message is and how many messages it will send.
I'm curious if this problem happens on your device as well.

yep same here..
LOL with the word 'wel' hehe i had the same problems.
gues only english spelling check available..
but xdaradar
do you also have the double sending sms problem
i have my t-mobile mda pro but its in use with an orange sim
enlighten me.

njet, never encountered that problem, not on my old XDA-I and not on my current qtec9090 with original ROM or tuma 1.3 ROM.
i'm using vodafone GPRS with six (!) inboxes without any problem
- email inbox for exchange mail
- three pop3 email accounts
- MMS inbox
- SMS inbox
they all sync and work arround the clock sending and receiving email
so I have no idea. did you try your simcard in an normal cellphone and what happens then?

hey xdaradar do you have a work around the we'll problem..
its kinda annoying

If this is what I think it is, ensure that you turn off Unicode support in the text options of POutlook.

subroutine said:
hey xdaradar do you have a work around the we'll problem..
its kinda annoying
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nop, what i do is typing the message, go back to in between the two ll and then twice backspace

coercri said:
If this is what I think it is, ensure that you turn off Unicode support in the text options of POutlook.
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i don't have the double sms thing, but turning off unicode doesn't help me with the autocorrect of wel to we'll

I used to have this problem with SPB pocket. When you hit the close button the messaging application terminates.
I was advised to add "tmail.exe" to the exclusion list in the spb pocket "Close button" properties.

okay, can I start crying now...?
I got the double SMS sent issue, but I also got the latest
T-Mobile ROM... (2.21.2.108)
PANIC!
Anyone got another idea...?
Sometimes friends even tell me they got the same messag 3 times!
costing a lot... hoping for a solution !

Do you use a task closer like HTC X, MagicButton etc?
V

SMS
I had the same problem. Found it was becuase I was closing the SMS app before receiving the SMS sent confirmation...

allrighty, so being inpatient, as caused by nature, is being punished ...
hmmz...
Thanks for your reply...
Just wondering how you found thát out...

Wing issues

Well i have tried almost every single release that ivanmmj has made for this phone, they are so sexy and work well except the issue with the mms, even after installing ArcSoft_MMS_Composer_WWE cab the mms feature doesn't work, sms works fine but not mms.
these are the ones i have tried Ivan.
JustHacked14v3 - LZX Wing Edition.7z
JustHacked14 - Wing.7z
14v7-wing.7z
but no luck on the mms thing.

The MMS should work automatically after you use the autoconfig. Arcsoft is already built in. Have you let the autoconfig configure the phone then attempted to recieve MMS without adding anything?

ivanmmj said:
The MMS should work automatically after you use the autoconfig. Arcsoft is already built in. Have you let the autoconfig configure the phone then attempted to recieve MMS without adding anything?
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Yeah i let it set up automatically and it does the cycle and resets, so far txt'ng works but no MMS, im running the 14v7 on it now and still no MMS. I flashed it again and it stays the same everything works except the MMS.

RedStar00 said:
Yeah i let it set up automatically and it does the cycle and resets, so far txt'ng works but no MMS, im running the 14v7 on it now and still no MMS. I flashed it again and it stays the same everything works except the MMS.
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Are you not receiving the actual pictures? Is it not receiving anything at all?
I switched to an older version of mms for 14.7. So far, everyone is telling me that it works fine.
Also, please try to keep talk of ROMs within the ROM threads themselves. I'm very active in that thread. I can't help fix things when I don't see people complain about them. Luckily, I happened to look outside my thread.

ivanmmj said:
Are you not receiving the actual pictures? Is it not receiving anything at all?
I switched to an older version of mms for 14.7. So far, everyone is telling me that it works fine.
Also, please try to keep talk of ROMs within the ROM threads themselves. I'm very active in that thread. I can't help fix things when I don't see people complain about them. Luckily, I happened to look outside my thread.
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Yeah im not receiving any mms, nor can i send one. But everything else is fine.
Ill post in the rom thread from now on.

Anyone know where i can get the battery status cab or app for this?

RedStar00 said:
Anyone know where i can get the battery status cab or app for this?
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What do you mean? Like the bar on the top of JustStable? The white bar going across the top that shows you the battery status.
I still don't know why only you are having problems with the MMS. Where are you located?

never mind about the battery thing, my mistake i reflashed it and it works now. Im in New Jersey.

What works? The MMS?

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What works? The MMS?
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no the battery icon, the mms isn't working still, im reflashing it here and there trying out all the roms and using the network wizard that i found in another post and still nothing, i think im getting a few of my friends pissed off lol.

RedStar00 said:
no the battery icon, the mms isn't working still, im reflashing it here and there trying out all the roms and using the network wizard that i found in another post and still nothing, i think im getting a few of my friends pissed off lol.
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So my ROM's build in network wizard isn't working. Another network wizard isn't working. I'm gonna have to put my sim card on my wing and see if I receive anything, either.

Has anything else happened with this lately?
I recently began installing ROMs myself, and yours were the ones I chose.
Since I first installed your micro rom, no MMS >.< No matter what.
Is this the case for everyone running them on the Wing?
I'm going batty.

not even half of my sms get send

hey all,
i'm kinda new here so help me out if i go wrong !
ive got a problem with my sms: not even half of them get really send. it doesnt mather if its an reply or a new one..
please help me out with this trouble.. i really need sms else girlfriend gets mad lol
maybe there is a hotfix or something for it ?

What's your ROM version?
Did you try disabling unicode in message option?

ive got rom version 1.43.404.1 NLD
and bout the unicode thing.. will try if you tell me where its located lol

Nakkie040 said:
ive got rom version 1.43.404.1 NLD
and bout the unicode thing.. will try if you tell me where its located lol
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You can find unicode setting from message tab, all messages-menu-settings-options.
If it's not working for u then try updating your ROM.
Now, you can download official ROM from htc site directly.

hey there,
the unicode thing is off and still im having those problems.. hope someone found a solution for it ??

This is a known issue and the sms hotfix has only worked for a small number of people - it's still an outstanding bug. There is a workround though, that works 100% of the time. You need to disable HTC messaging, and use the windows messaging app instead. Once there's a hotfix that actually works, you can go back to the much nicer HTC app.
The option to disable HTC messaging is available in BsB Tweaks. I'd recommend installing that, setting "SMS Mode" to use SMS "classic view", and soft reset your phone. If you have any messages stuck in your outbox, they still won't send, but any future ones will do.
BsB Tweaks is available here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
Good luck

SUPER !! thanks for the quick reply going to try that right now !

Nakkie040 said:
SUPER !! thanks for the quick reply going to try that right now !
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It worked for me, but then I had success with the hotfix too, so I'm sorted now. I still keep an eye on the outbox though
Good luck mate - hope it solves it for you.

Do the unsent messages remain in the outbox?
In that case, try setting sms mode to GSM instead of GPRS or wait a little while before putting the device in standy after pressing send.
When the device is suspended, it seems the gprs connection is sometimes deactivated and sms over gprs is not sent.
Worked for me; no more messages remaining in the outbox.

tomasz said:
Do the unsent messages remain in the outbox?
In that case, try setting sms mode to GSM instead of GPRS or wait a little while before putting the device in standy after pressing send.
When the device is suspended, it seems the gprs connection is sometimes deactivated and sms over gprs is not sent.
Worked for me; no more messages remaining in the outbox.
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Yeah, that's another known workround, but it's not been 100% succesful. Can't wait till HTC sort this proper.

Installing the hotfix worked for me.
"-ish"
What I mean is that I have been able to send and receive SMS but not MMS. Installing the hotfix sorted out sending MMS, but I cannot receive. It may be something to do with O2 who have been having problems.
Whoa! MMS just worked and downloaded the picture, so it must have been O2.

Just how bad is the sms problem?

I am thinking of binning my omnia and moving back to htc with the hd2. The big problem i have is the issue with sms not working correctly. I use sms alot, and would not be willing to live with a phone that sms doesnt work properly.
Please could you fill in the survey and also give me an idea of which rom you are using and if this changed the sms problem for you?
Thanks

Non-existent, if you have the 1.6.1 ROM

No problems at all even on 1.43 ROM

Never had any problem with sms.

After flashing 1.61 no more SMS issue (as well as no other bugs so far, still testing...)

t-mobile
ROM 1.43.110.2 (70315) WWE - Set up the phone, sent text with RSVP and got one back seconds later.
Same with email.

geekyhawkes said:
I am thinking of binning my omnia and moving back to htc with the hd2. The big problem i have is the issue with sms not working correctly. I use sms alot, and would not be willing to live with a phone that sms doesnt work properly.
Please could you fill in the survey and also give me an idea of which rom you are using and if this changed the sms problem for you?
Thanks
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There are currently two separate sms bugs:
1. Messages get stuck in the outbox and never get sent
2. Horrible lag when loading an sms thread with lots of messages.
The first has supposedly been fixed in the 1.61 rom(never had this issue myself), but the latter hasn't. The music player suffers from the same lag.
So if you send a lot of messages I'd still recommend switching to the default WM application.

never had a problem with SMS. ROM 1.48

Where can you find the 1.61 ROM?
I cannot locate this anywhere on HTC's website. Can anyone please point me to where they downloaded the 1.61 ROM from?

thijazi said:
I cannot locate this anywhere on HTC's website. Can anyone please point me to where they downloaded the 1.61 ROM from?
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It's a leaked rom so you might want to check out the leo rom sub forum.

I am not having any issues with SMS getting stuck in the out box.
I am however getting the slow down when loading SMS threads. With about 30 messages its getting slow. Not terrible but compared to instant when i started it seems horrible.

Never had any problems with SMS, with 1.43 or 1.48.

I have no idea, what is sms problem this phone work awsome out of the box.
You wanna see fu*ked up phone try lg viewty or other lg crap...

I'm using the O2 HD2 with 1.43 ROM
Today is the first time my GF didn't receive my sms and she called me as worried something happened to me. After we hung up, I was gutted that my HD2 actually had the sms problem like what people have said. However when I tried to send her another sms later on, I realised I didn't actually press send before pressing the home button. I'm guessing the O2 HD2 doesn't have sms problem?

Toss3 said:
There are currently two separate sms bugs:
1. Messages get stuck in the outbox and never get sent
2. Horrible lag when loading an sms thread with lots of messages.
The first has supposedly been fixed in the 1.61 rom(never had this issue myself), but the latter hasn't. The music player suffers from the same lag.
So if you send a lot of messages I'd still recommend switching to the default WM application.
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In regards to sms bug 1: I'm running 1.61 rom and the messages I sent today I've still not received any delivery reports for.

no1 had this problem??
receive are all 2-3 minutes too early (time is not match with own mobile time clock) as it basic on sender time and so put the text conversation out of sync.

wiltonson said:
I'm using the O2 HD2 with 1.43 ROM
Today is the first time my GF didn't receive my sms and she called me as worried something happened to me. After we hung up, I was gutted that my HD2 actually had the sms problem like what people have said. However when I tried to send her another sms later on, I realised I didn't actually press send before pressing the home button. I'm guessing the O2 HD2 doesn't have sms problem?
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It most certainly does. I'm with O2 and have this problem, also the occasional text going to a different (and non-requested) recipient!

HTC have provided a hotfix today for SMS issues. I havent experienced the problem myself so am interested to see if the problem is resolved.
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=812&news_id=407

Nope that hotfix didnt fix anything. I still have messages sitting in outbox for hours now..
humbug
(ps, using the ROM 1.48)

i still had time stamp error

Guys, who REALLY solved problem with SMS???

I very, very sad....
I can't view list of SMS
I can't answer to SMS without 5-10sec timeout
I can't use default interface for SMS
Its terrible.
If you ready to answer me about this with thread when swith to default mode, you must to know that I've tried this and I lost MMS.
I can't use only SMS without MMS.....
Plz, help. Who sovle this problem, help.....
.

+1 it's to sad. I've had the phone for 3 weeks now, and i'm waiting on HTC to fix this terrible issue (this and the alarm issue..)
i still have to use Nokia N86 as my primary phone, because like you, i want both MMS and SMS. HTC please??

Guys,
If this issue is really of concern to you do the following:
- write to HTC so they know that there is still a problem out there for some users.
- implement this fix here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584696 (see the last post f you want to solve the MMS issue).
WB

Same here!!
What I am doing now as a workaround is using PowerSMS (http://download.cnet.com/PowerSMS/3000-10440_4-10920088.html).
It allows you to make a full backup (among others) of your SMS (inbox and sent items) and restore them anytime with the option to delete them after backing up.
Regarding the amount of use you can backup SMS you don't need anymore. It's really quick.
I'm doing this once/twice in a week and the sms app is responding. According to the amount of sms you send/receive you can screw it up and down;-)
I receive round about 10 sms each day and send ~10 sms pro day.
But as I said. It's not really a solution but a little apsirin for my headache!
Cheers,
LEE
P.S. beside all these, this powerSMS is a really nice app (e.g schedule SMS ) .

Theoretically you could also use MyPhone to sync up with your online account and then sync back to device if you want to backup and flash a new rom.

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Theoretically you could also use MyPhone to sync up with your online account and then sync back to device if you want to backup and flash a new rom.
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I use MyPhone on a daily basis (it automatically backs up everything except my storage card at 4am). It also allows you to archive text messages online, and you can then delete them from your online store and it automatically deletes them from your phone during the next sync. Doing this, I never have problems with my SMS or MMS, as I keep the number of messages down. I've got over 2000 messages archived on MyPhone (accessible via the web interface), and about 100 on my phone at the moment. Once there's a 100% fix in place, I can restore the archive and they will get put back on my phone automatically.
If any of you are having problems, have you done what wacky.banana suggested? That thread seems to have resolved the issue for the majority of people. Okay it's not ideal, but until HTC fix this then we have to make do with what we have.

I dont understand why you told about Backup SMS? I have not problem with backup.... I have problem with SMS messaging.
As i wrote above, I can't get normal communication by the SMS.

Henry_Lee said:
I dont understand why you told about Backup SMS? I have not problem with backup.... I have problem with SMS messaging.
As i wrote above, I can't get normal communication by the SMS.
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Henry_Lee,
What JohnCMolyneaux is trying to tell you is that your problem is probably being caused by the HTC SMS application not being able to cope with too many texts on your phone. Its a well known problem and produces the symptoms you have (search for SMS problem on XDA and you will find lots of threads on this).
What he was trying to say was that if you backup your texts online then delete all of them off the phone but the bare essentials then you stand a better chance of getting the HTC SMS app to work.
An even better solution is the one I set out above.
There's no more on offer here I'm afraid. It's either one of the 2 solutions above or you live with it.
WB

I have only 10-20 SMS on my phone and get problem even with 1-5 SMS.
I already wrote to HTC support service but I think someone solve problem....

I never had any problem .. I know it's not being helpful, but just so you know.

now that hspl & sspl is out with several cooked ROMs, is there any ROM that solves this issue? or will there be any ? becuz this is the only issue anoying me right now, and i kind of don't see why to flash ROMs only becuz of their skin :S

I have two major issues with this phone, 1. some sms messages doesen't get sent, they're stuck in the outbox. 2. the alarm clock isn't reliable at all.
Sendt an e-mail to HTC and got this answer: (i did include in the e-mail the fact that i have installed the hotfix)
Dear HTC Customer
HTC is aware of this now, and working on a solution. Thank you for your patience

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now that hspl & sspl is out with several cooked ROMs, is there any ROM that solves this issue? or will there be any ? becuz this is the only issue anoying me right now, and i kind of don't see why to flash ROMs only becuz of their skin :S
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Yes, I waiting for normal ROM. But now i dont see any famouse ROM Developers like BePe, just some young staff....
And nobody say that his ROM is fix the SMS problem. Just "added all last software".... Its not good way for ROM crwation.

Henry_Lee said:
But now i dont see any famouse ROM Developers like BePe, just some young staff....
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Never heard of Miri then?

Henry_Lee said:
Yes, I waiting for normal ROM. But now i dont see any famouse ROM Developers like BePe, just some young staff....
And nobody say that his ROM is fix the SMS problem. Just "added all last software".... Its not good way for ROM crwation.
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Well, this will not easily be solved by a simple rom fix.... It's a fundamental error in the sense 2.5 msging. The alternatives aren't perfect either (there is a sense 2.1 workaround which has some bugs as well as the 'disable sense' option which isn't all that for some).
Afaik custom roms usually are stripped, updated, modified and tweaked and no core fixes which are the resposibility of HTC.

Henry_Lee,
I found a solution for my SMS problem, which was quite similar to yours I think:
- not able to send (new) or answer messages
- not able to see message history
- not able to go to 'more' for more options
First of all I wrote an email to HTC as well, but they didn't seem to understand my problem or care about it. They answered a hotfix
would be available soon, but that was a hotfix to solve the other SMS problem where messages didn't get sent immediately etc..
However, once this was released I downloaded it and installed it onto my HD2, result: wasted my time (as I expected really...).
Because HTC didn't respond to my next messages anymore (therefore I assume they don't really care) I started to try a couple of things
myself:
1. Made a backup using SBP Backup software excluding a backup of the registry in System Data
2. Performed a hard reset
3. Installed ROM upgrade (in my case it was Netherlands 1.48.404.2)
4. Installed SMS Function Update
5. Re-installed most of the files in the backup in ROM Upgrade Mode, apart from System Data (use Customize Restore)
Result: problem(s) solved!
SMS works like a charm again, as it did when I just bought the phone.
Just disappointed in the way the HTC customer service desk works (or doesn't work...). Still, it's not just HTC's CS, Nokia excels in their
stupidity, one of the reasons I got a HTC phone this time. Let's hope I won't have to contact any of them again soon...
Hope this helps!
Brgds,
Paul

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Result: problem(s) solved!
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How long has the problem been solved? I found this problem after 3 weeks with my device. A hard reset (or equally a ROM flash) would surely cause the equivalent. You may see the problem reappear, as I did after a week, after the 1.48 "upgrade".

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How long has the problem been solved?
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The SMS function has been up and running for about 3 weeks now. And like I mentioned earlier I have also upgraded the ROM version, no problems since.
Many messages have been sent and received meanwhile so at the moment I'm confident the problem has been solved properly. If not I will let y'all know!
Brgds,
Paul

I do sympathize with those having SMS issues. Have you all consider possibility is hardware issue as you also notice there are guys in the forum saying they do not have such issues. I am one of them. I have been using the HD2 for 38 days already. On day one I restore about 800 sms into my phone. There was NO lag and the SMS were all displayed within 10+ secs ( one time lag to display ). Subsequent no more such lag as was instant display when I access it
SMS stuck in outbox only one time ( few minutes ) - I discounted it off, as I just reach another country
daily I send/recieve about 20-30 SMS : till today I NEVER encountered SMS stuck in outbox. SMS was also immediately displayed in PEOPLE tab ( found many users complain very slow to load ). I only face this issue few days ago on the cooked rom based on Leo 2.0 build 28*** ; I change back to rom based on build 2188## - no more such issue
Till today I NEVER even bother to install the SMS hotfix - see no need of it

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Never heard of Miri then?
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Heard, but I will wait normal SPL and Bepe.
When I had HTC Cruise I tried many ROMs and Miri's too, but only Bepe to cook ROM like my taste.
Looks like HSPL is ready. isnt?