Is there anything out there to mimic the Blackberry feature of locking the device and switching off the screen when the phone is put in the pouch?
Anyone? It would seem like a feature which should be standard given the way the proximity sensor is used in-calls...
as far as I know the blackberry use's magnets for the lock / sleep. I can see problems if you use the proximity/light sensor, as if you are using in a car at night for example it would conitnuely lock
Pocketshield can unlock with light. ie take it out ya pocket and it comes on. Was talk of adding proximity sensor support soon in addition.
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I know this is primarily a HTC forum, but I have also seen requests from Omnia users for a program that will lock and blank the screen on a call using G sensor or the Light sensor, and then unlock the screen when bringing the phone away from the ear.
Pocket Shield has such an option, but even then it requires you to apply what they call "negative g force" for the screen to unlock.
Well, I found the perfect program that works for any phone that has g sensor or light sensor, Omnia users can use it as well!
Auto Call Locker
Hy all
I have a strange problem with my X10! The will not go off in a call! (or at least most of the times it won't) The sensors should turn the screen off while the phone is to to my ear but most of the time it will not!
There is a hidden menu that have tests for almost every hardware component but the test for the proximity sensor only shows that the sensor is OFF and won't do the test!
Ideas?
The sensor is the little black circle (sort of) above and to the left of the "n"
e.g. Sony Ericsso'n'
Have you tried putting your finger over it during the test?
same problem here i tried the finger-trick doesnt work
I tried it and the test shows ON while my finger is there! So the sensor works properly but why the dialer is not using it to control the screen?
As stated before, if you cover the 'hole', the screen would not react to any of your finger touches. The screen would still be on but would turn off according to your settings (like 30 seconds or 1 minute or whichever). Try it. Call someone, cover the hole and try to hit 'end call' or slide up the keypad and then cover the hole and try to hit numbers.
The purpose of the proximity sensor is to turn the screen off in a call while the phone is to your ear! if i cover the sensor it must turn the screen off! but it doesn't! There is some kind of timeout set to this! The screen will turn off but after some time! this makes the proximity sensor almost useless!
No, it is to disable touchscreen buttons. It will turn off when time you've selected is over and turn on again and enable touch buttons when you take the phone out from your face.
Though i think you're right, it should turn the screen off to save battery, it is silly to have the screen on when you are using it.
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Zenghelis said:
No, it is to disable touchscreen buttons. It will turn off when time you've selected is over and turn on again and enable touch buttons when you take the phone out from your face.
Though i think you're right, it should turn the screen off to save battery, it is silly to have the screen on when you are using it.
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Quite right!
I guess the expectations are again set by Apple's standards. Their proximity sensor functions as one would expect.
However the sensor on the X10 does what it was designed to do, and that's to deactivate the touchpad whilst the device is held up to your ear.
The screen timeout is a different setting all together (unfortunately).
Baggyb said:
Quite right!
I guess the expectations are again set by Apple's standards. Their proximity sensor functions as one would expect.
However the sensor on the X10 does what it was designed to do, and that's to deactivate the touchpad whilst the device is held up to your ear.
The screen timeout is a different setting all together (unfortunately).
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Not the expectation set by Apple. It's expectation for any right minded individual.
SE software is just well known as one of the worst top players in the industry.
FFS, they spent all the time on DRM, lock the phone, developing battery hungry useless software on 1.6 rather than push out 2.1 asap, that tells you something.
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Not the expectation set by Apple. It's expectation for any right minded individual.
SE software is just well known as one of the worst top players in the industry.
FFS, they spent all the time on DRM, lock the phone, developing battery hungry useless software on 1.6 rather than push out 2.1 asap, that tells you something.
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Why not go through the Manual once before abusing Company left - right.....
Let me copy and paste it for you guys........
Sensors
Your phone has two built-in sensors – a light sensor and a proximity sensor. The light sensor is used for automatic LCD backlight control. The proximity sensor turns the touch screen off when your face touches the screen. This prevents you from unintentionally activating phone functions when you are engaged in a call.
TechGuru_x10 said:
Why not go through the Manual once before abusing Company left - right.....
Let me copy and paste it for you guys........
Sensors
Your phone has two built-in sensors – a light sensor and a proximity sensor. The light sensor is used for automatic LCD backlight control. The proximity sensor turns the touch screen off when your face touches the screen. This prevents you from unintentionally activating phone functions when you are engaged in a call.
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Yes and this is plain stupid use of the sensor! Take the HD2 for instance! Its proximity sensor turns the screen off the second you take the phone to your ear! This is done with every HTC device having the sensor! It is just misused on the X10! I hope that somebody here would correct this with a little program some day!
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Yes and this is plain stupid use of the sensor! Take the HD2 for instance! Its proximity sensor turns the screen off the second you take the phone to your ear! This is done with every HTC device having the sensor! It is just misused on the X10! I hope that somebody here would correct this with a little program some day!
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This is the main problem with us ,,, we start to compare and complain rather than think why did SE will give two sensors instead of one.
Answer is not known to me but this much I know they know better than us.
If you think you know better, be my guest and throw some knowledge here. I am new to Android but not to SE.
So im new to the forums, but I was having a problem with the proximity sensor...
As stated in a lot of threads, the proximity sensor does work and will "lock" the screen so that once your face is near the screen it will not allow any clicking of the buttons.
Also the screen is supposed to turn off about 15sec into the call. Mine turned off, but then all of a sudden turned on again...this would happen repeatedly.
I found out the solution...it seems advance task killer was not allowing the screen to turn off.
I had auto kill enabled and set it to when the phone was locked to kill apps.
I turned off auto kill, and everything seems to be working fine with the screen and proximity sensor now..
hope this helps anyone having this issue!
thx, same problem here !!
so its pretty clear none of us know the answer to this, but yet we're still bashing each other. LOL! ppl let's get constructive, we dont have the answers so lets accept the fact and seek help some where else.
o2 Germany told me, that Sony Ericsson will bring us an update within the next 4 weeks to all devices.
It will be an update with alot of bug fixes (e.g. proximity sensor ) and speed improvements.
So, be cool. Sony Ericsson is working on that and with Eclair in autumn, our battery will perform very well.
I dont know if this is an issue with other handsets.
I installed proximity screen off application . The purpose was to have the phone turn the screen off when i close my flip case.
However i found something strange.
When the flip case is very close to the screen the proximity sensor does not seem to detect that there is something covering it.
Is this an issue with every one ?
Any solution
Please see the videos
As you can see from the videos when i bring the shield very close the proximity sensor does not seem to detect the sheild.
Edit : However if u use ur finger this is not seen
I've noticed the same behavior, it's quite annoying because it kills one of NoLed's best features (screen off using prox. sensor).
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Still really annoying that the original flip cover won't work with the proximity sensor. A workaround might be a third party flip case. A diy modification of to the original one won't work since if I close it AND hold whatever object that alone is enough for a positive result over the flip cover, the sensor will still not register positive [because a minimal distance between an object and the glass surface is required, see below].
mine works even with a finger...
I've done it a few times accidently when i was trying to access the notification bar while on the phone
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mine works even with a finger...
I've done it a few times accidently when i was trying to access the notification bar while on the phone
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Thats the thing i was saying.
With finger i works great even if u touching the screen
Dial *#0*# and press sensor. If it vibrates, the proximity sensor is registering an object.
Maybe it comes in handy with testing.
It's working for me, thanks for the tip about the app!
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Okay, I tested and found that indeed when you set the app to:
"Cover an hold to lock the screen" to say 5 seconds.
Close the flipcover.
It does not register.
However. If I set:
"Disable Accidental Lock" to .25 seconds.
Close the flipcover.
It works quite well.
Coming back to the sensor. It indeed does not register the flipcover when it's closed and touching the screen.
Weird thing is it does not register your hand anymore either.
Recreating issue:
Remove flipcover and lay it completely flat over the sensor.
Dial *#0*#.
Press "Sensor".
No registration.
Now hover your hand over where the proximity sensor is, and... How about that, no registration.
This indeed messes up NoLed's battery saving feature.
This can also be a problem when:
You set screen timeout to 10 min.
In the app's settings set "Disable in landscape" to on.
Then use an app in landscape mode.
Close flipcover while in landscape mode.
Then rotate to portrait. At this point it should start registering again and turn off screen..
The sensor does not register and screen stays on.
Drains battery.
It is a really cool idea, but it does not function properly.
It's too flaky, also when just handling your phone. I find myself accidentally turning off the screen.
Maybe if you use a case or some other cover with a different or thicker material it would work better.
I ordered a Zenuscase, I'll give it a try with that one.
Don't know how long it'll take to arrive though
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heey i found the problem , the sensor is working fine ... but when so close with any black object the light is not reflected back to the proximity sensor.(black color absorbs light).
Repeat your video with any white object and you will notice the difference..
Now i am using Autostart and it works great with samsung original flip cover (white flipcover).
you can use any white sticker on the black one.
ahmedtaha7 said:
heey i found the problem , the sensor is working fine ... but when so close with any black object the light is not reflected back to the proximity sensor.(black color absorbs light).
Repeat your video with any white object and you will notice the difference..
Now i am using Autostart and it works great with samsung original flip cover (white flipcover).
you can use any white sticker on the black one.
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ya correct, just few day back i have asked this issue to developer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22170417&postcount=5
But it will work perfact if you use proximity + light both sensor enabled.
Color has no influence, distance between an object and the proximity sensor is what matters. I've just tested this using pieces of paper, cloth, metal and wood in white and black colors. The sensor seems unable to correctly register anything that is less than approximately 1 mm away from the glass (it may report 0 cm or jump to 5 cm). Also it seems it only reports changes of a certain minimal distance between two readings, even if the reported value remains the same as the old one. Anything below the threshold of the 5 cm reading will always result in a reported value of 0 cm, but if the effective distance between reading A and reading B was below a certain threshold, the sensor will not report a new reading of 0 cm (thus an object hovering stable over the sensor will not produce a 2nd post). I'm not sure if the sensor has a state that can be read at any time. From my tests using AutomateIt Pro, it seems only new posts can be used by apps. And if the delta between two readings is to small to make the sensor post a "new" result, then this can be problematic under certain circumstances (like trying to turn the screen off after the flip cover got closed (prox. sensor = 0 for 0 sec) and stays closed (light sensor = 10 for 5 sec) while preventing the screen from going off after an accidental wipe over the prox. sensor e.g. with the hand).
@Dr. Ketan: I've tested Power Switch (again) and I'm quite certain that for the Note + Flip Cover it only works through the light sensor (which is unsatisfying since it then won't work correctly in the dark). Covering the proximity sensor only doesn't make the app reliably react.
Power switch works ok for me with the Samsung flip cover. I have the confirmation set to minimum Abe theactivation delay set to 0 seconds.
It doesn't always work from the lock screen but works fine from the home screen or apps
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so is it a hardware issue of software?
might it be fixes in ICS? it's fu***ng annoying! just bought the flip cover(black) yesterday and also bought smart cover app, my note's screen keeps on turn off (when flip closed) then it turns back on (flip still closed)!
Any solution for gingerbread? like proximity calibrator perhaps? (while waiting for final version of ics to come out)
Power switch will work if you use proximity + light sensor both.
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Power switch will work if you use proximity + light sensor both.
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It's so sensitive that the moment my finger move over the sensor, the shutdown menu pops up.
Any app that works with the flip cover?
We're all waiting for a 'proper' smart cover for our Nexus 7s. some of us have modified other cases with a magnet to get the functionality, however, I'm thinking we should be able to get a similar, and fairly stable functionality using the light sensor.
There are many apps to turn the screen off & then on again with the proximity sensors, and I found some for the light sensor too but they're not reliable and most of the time left me with a 'screen off loop' where the sensor isn't sensitive enough to light and keeps shutting off the screen. Adjusting the sensitivity hasn't helped either.
Apps I have tried include:
Smart Screen Off / On
CaseSensor for Tablets
Smart Cover
SimpleOn (the closest i got to getting to work but mostly gets into a screen off loop)
a couple of other apps here and there.
Has anyone been able to find a good enough app for our Nexus 7 and other devices with light sensors to use this functionality? Please share your recommendations.
Exactly as title says. Anyone else have the official clear view case from Samsung? Does AOD work when your cover is closed? Would be pretty convenient and for some reason Samsung decided not to include this handy feature...
It's a limitation I think.
AOD require light sensor, proximity sensor and some other sensor to work. The cover render these sensor useless and then may cause problem with AOD, so that's what I think why samsung disable it.
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It's a limitation I think.
AOD require light sensor, proximity sensor and some other sensor to work. The cover render these sensor useless and then may cause problem with AOD, so that's what I think why samsung disable it.
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Well the proximity sensors work when talking on the phone with the cover closed... Seems like to me this can be implemented with a minor update.
elpindian said:
Well the proximity sensors work when talking on the phone with the cover closed... Seems like to me this can be implemented with a minor update.
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Are you sure?
I'm not sure about how this kind of case work on new device but I used to have S-view case on my old s4 and it doesn't use proximity sensor to turn display off when calling with cover closed but use motion sensor to detect the movement of the phone to guess whether I'm holding my phone close to my face (and it fail sometimes)
Maybe you can test this by placing your phone on the table when recieving call. Without moving the phone, try cover the proximity sensor and see whether the screen is off.
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Are you sure?
I'm not sure about how this kind of case work on new device but I used to have S-view case on my old s4 and it doesn't use proximity sensor to turn display off when calling with cover closed but use motion sensor to detect the movement of the phone to guess whether I'm holding my phone close to my face (and it fail sometimes)
Maybe you can test this by placing your phone on the table when recieving call. Without moving the phone, try cover the proximity sensor and see whether the screen is off.
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You are correct sir, it does not use the proximity sensors when the clear cover is on. But even with that, it uses the phone's other sensors to wake and sleep the screen... Why can't this be applied to the AOD? Just a little thing that would be nice to have.
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You are correct sir, it does not use the proximity sensors when the clear cover is on. But even with that, it uses the phone's other sensors to wake and sleep the screen... Why can't this be applied to the AOD? Just a little thing that would be nice to have.
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Because AOD use proximity sensor to detect whether your phone is in the pocket and turn itself off to save battery. Motion sensor can't do that. Also for motion sensor to detect your movement it need to be on all the time, thus massive battery drain.