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I suppose the rumors weren't true, then?
halorin said:
I suppose the rumors weren't true, then?
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I saw someone on here posting a quote about the multi-touch fix... lemme find it
by Paul22000:
Also "A scale gesture detector API provides improved definition of multi-touch events."
I wonder if that means the N1's multitouch axes will be fixed for gaming!
halorin said:
I suppose the rumors weren't true, then?
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since nobody has froyo yet, we dont know if it was fixed or not. i really hope they did though.
Thanks for the responses, guys. I guess in hindsight it might have been good to leave out any negative things in such a positive conference.
But still, some mention would have been comforting.
halorin said:
Thanks for the responses, guys. I guess in hindsight it might have been good to leave out any negative things in such a positive conference.
But still, some mention would have been comforting.
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I feel the same way halorin. It's natural to voice displeasure over something important missed in an update (I would have loved 360* rotation, colored trackball, fm radio, etc) but I know your happy about the update when it does occur and a great guy to have on the forum
All progress is still progress toward perfection, no matter how small.
Thing is, they were just demoing the OS, not device specific things like the N1's trackball & whether it has working FM etc.
Very valid point, Rusty.
Yup, each device will have their own seperate updates with device exclusive things.
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Thing is, they were just demoing the OS, not device specific things like the N1's trackball & whether it has working FM etc.
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*in Kramer voice* ........ you just blew my mind...
ap3604 said:
I saw someone on here posting a quote about the multi-touch fix... lemme find it
by Paul22000:
Also "A scale gesture detector API provides improved definition of multi-touch events."
I wonder if that means the N1's multitouch axes will be fixed for gaming!
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That quote is from the highlights web page:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html
The axis problem can never be fixed 100% because the hardware doesn't report enough info to do it for all cases, but currently it is pretty bad and I think better drivers/software could get it close. I believe that Cyanogen's ROMs have had some tweaks that have greatly improved its responsiveness for some time now so perhaps the Android engineers adopted similar fixes. It will hopefully get good enough over time that you'd have to know exactly how the sensors work and deliberately try to fool the drivers in order to get it confused.
I tested a nexus one on froyo today at google i/o, some things that were absent, colored track ball, touch screen wise they didn't have any multi touch analysis program installed, but just pinching around I don't detect any notable differences, so i'm guessing no to those 2 features on nexus, at least on their current build
I was also at I/O and while I did play with a few different Nexus Ones that were loaded with FroYo, I was unable to determine if any screen fixes were applied.
I asked a few times and each time I was politely told that they could not talk about anything that was not already made public (fair enough btw).
However, pinching and zooming on maps seemed to be smoother (not sure if it just my impression or some actual change) and it seemed to respond overall to my finger movements more smoothly.
Also, some games that I demoed on a few different Nexus Ones did employ finger gestures and those games functioned flawlessly from the touch perspective.
I am not sure that translates into any real fix or just my biases, but I am putting it out here for whatever it is worth.
Dan
dan1431 said:
I was also at I/O and while I did play with a few different Nexus Ones that were loaded with FroYo...
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Did you notice if there was 360 rotation? ie could you flip it from 12 to 3 O'Clock clockwise and get it to rotate to landscape when in a rotating app like Maps?
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Did you notice if there was 360 rotation? ie could you flip it from 12 to 3 O'Clock clockwise and get it to rotate to landscape when in a rotating app like Maps?
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I hate to admit this, but I did not even think about testing that feature.
Dan
Dorick said:
I tested a nexus one on froyo today at google i/o, some things that were absent, colored track ball, touch screen wise they didn't have any multi touch analysis program installed, but just pinching around I don't detect any notable differences, so i'm guessing no to those 2 features on nexus, at least on their current build
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Dorick, by any chance have you noticed wifi-n connection?
I'm almost certain from the API improvement and UI modifications listed on the Android SDK site that we have a software fix for the crazy multitouch issue.
Having said that, it means the screen won't go crazy when the paths "swap". But, it's still limited to two touchpoints and not 10 like the 3000 series screen.
A fix is a fix though. =)
Personally if the have fixed up pinch zooming somewhat and made it smoother that will cover me 99% of the way as I use the device so that will be pretty much a fix assuming we actually see it in the official N1 rom.
Nexus One has the multitouch problem. it's axis and coordination are a bit off when using multitouch.
I was never able to confirm this on my device because I was always on WiinMo; However, we have android now -d
Using the Android "Multitouch Visible Test" application from marketplace, I've noticed that everything seems to be working find on the HD2 and I am not getting any weird results.
Can anyone else confirm how theirs is doing?
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-aria-multitouch-test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmVyfKzv2o0&feature=player_embedded#!
lemonspeakers said:
Nexus One has the multitouch problem. it's axis and coordination are a bit off when using multitouch.
I was never able to confirm this on my device because I was always on WiinMo; However, we have android now -d
Using the Android "Multitouch Visible Test" application from marketplace, I've noticed that everything seems to be working find on the HD2 and I am not getting any weird results.
Can anyone else confirm how theirs is doing?
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-aria-multitouch-test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmVyfKzv2o0&feature=player_embedded#!
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I have tried and tested my HD2 (TMOUS) running Bangsters latest android ROM and I dont have a problem with MT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUJFLIfYiY
This is my HD2, the touchscreen sucks T_T
the hd2 seems to pack better screen digitizer than most htc android devices even better than its sister the evo 4g look at this video and read the comments
multitouch issues http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P9vMAvvkGY
touch sensor lag issues http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOje7dcRlo&feature=related
the hd2's touch screen really is impressive. as far as i can tell its just as good as the iphones touch screen.
i remember from having a g1 which used a cheaper capacitive screen only being able to register 2 points as long as they wernt on the same horizontal or vertical plane, if yuou did it would average out to the middle between the 2 fingers. so it wasnt a true multi touch screen.
can i remind you guys that this is development, this really belongs in the android general, or even q and a.
this forum really is getting littered with posts that do not belong, and its making finding usefull info difficult
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUJFLIfYiY
This is my HD2, the touchscreen sucks T_T
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Stop using the tip of your finger. Do you have dry hands? Use the pad of your finger as opposed to the tips.
PoisonWolf said:
Stop using the tip of your finger. Do you have dry hands? Use the pad of your finger as opposed to the tips.
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This issues is known by some HTC HD2. The installed display are not the same.
The problem is on Windows Mobile as well. I've tested other HD2 in Market, they dont have this issues.
Multitouch is great.
But when i play nova and have two touch dots on same y axis (in landscape) both dots move together along the y axis.
So when im moving with left pad and trying to look up on left ped im having problems.
I moved the walk and look pads in NOVA on different axis. But its harder to play that way than its originaly intended.
my HD2 in this test works wery well no faults with axis and lag is almost invisible
I have the same issues! ..the thing is.. i can't fix it.. there's no HTC in my country! if i send it by mail i would risk it would brake or never see it again!
Linkman8x said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNUJFLIfYiY
This is my HD2, the touchscreen sucks T_T
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Well then u have a HTC HD2 of the 1. or the 2. Generation
with the new one u have no Touchscreen issues
see YT for more informations
I have long held that Android has had the unfortunate tendency, throughout its history, toward simple aesthetic deficiency. 2.3.4 HKTW has gladdened me with a couple of fixes for this problem, not least of all being the screen rotate animation. The only thing it seems to lack in this regard is a heightened sensitivity to the switching between landscape and portrait modes. I know many people will consider it blasphemy, but I have to say that the iPhone (all of them) does this better.
My question: Can any system values be changed to effect an easier and faster transition between landscape and portrait modes?
Questions I am not asking and do not wish to have answered: Why is Android better than iOS? Why would the OP not think the Atrix's gyroscope is already sufficiently or overly sensitive? What can one say which has no business being posted here?
Thanks!
Edit: apparently I was mistaken about the meaning of "gyroscope". I meant the accelerometer.
lurchbyrep said:
I have long held that Android has had the unfortunate tendency, throughout its history, toward simple aesthetic deficiency. 2.3.4 HKTW has gladdened me with a couple of fixes for this problem, not least of all being the screen rotate animation. The only thing it seems to lack in this regard is a heightened sensitivity to the switching between landscape and portrait modes. I know many people will consider it blasphemy, but I have to say that the iPhone (all of them) does this better.
My question: Can any system values be changed to effect an easier and faster transition between landscape and portrait modes?
Questions I am not asking and do not wish to have answered: Why is Android better than iOS? Why would the OP not think the Atrix's gyroscope is already sufficiently or overly sensitive? What can one say which has no business being posted here?
Thanks!
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The Atrix doesn't have a gyroscope, so it would be pretty hard to improve something that doesn't exist.
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The Atrix doesn't have a gyroscope, so it would be pretty hard to improve something that doesn't exist.
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Forgive my saying, then. I must have meant the accelerometer. I thought they were the same.
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The Atrix doesn't have a gyroscope, so it would be pretty hard to improve something that doesn't exist.
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We don't need hardwares here.... We have virtual sensors, Virtual Xposed & VMOS https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t6pb3EPJkCJL0RnPw90Xl8_FBGhLF-xU/view?usp=sharing
The question is still questionable....
CAN ANYONE ANSWER PLZZZZZZZ???
Is there any xml setting file, to edit a value for gyroscope sensitivity? Maybe on root directory (system > etc >permissions), or sth??? Plz help, I'm using virtual sensor, it has too low sensitivity.......
I saw many posts about screen sensitivity issues with the nexus 4 on launch but as of recently I haven't seen anything posted about it so I'm just wondering have the issues been fixed. I'll most probably get a nexus 4 if they come back in stock but I need to know. I tap very lightly on my phones so it will ruin the experience for me if I have to keep tapping. My windows phone 8x requires me to tap twice and it really winds me up. Please let me know if it's a software issue or if its fixed or basically any info you know about screen sensitivity. Thanks!
The 4.2 build was more sensitive. When they released 4.2.1 the driver changed and the screen became less sensitive. There is a mod in the Dev section to flash the old driver on boot. Touch doesn't work for a few seconds, but after that you're good. It may have changed. I don't know. Regardless, there is a workaround.
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The 4.2 build was more sensitive. When they released 4.2.1 the driver changed and the screen became less sensitive. There is a mod in the Dev section to flash the old driver on boot. Touch doesn't work for a few seconds, but after that you're good. It may have changed. I don't know. Regardless, there is a workaround.
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Ok thanks for letting me know. I wonder if they will release a better touch driver for 4.2.2. I really hope so!
Hi Guys,
I noticed that there are more than one threads about this problem so I want to try collecting some information about it and see how many users affected by it. The purpose of this thread and poll is to take the outcome and contact LG and some Tech news websites, making LG respond to this issue ASAP.
If you not sure about having this issue, you can check it as follows (it worked for me) -
1. Open the Dialer and enter 277634#*# to enter the Service Menu.
2. Go to Device Test -> Service Menu - Manual Test -> Touch Draw Test - Manual.
3. Now touch/tap/knock/slide on the test area (all of it) until its almost full and watch for missing registration (you will touch the screen and there will be no red mark). I repeated the test several times and almost every time I had misses.
You can add the device model (H815/H815x/H812/H811/H810/LS991/VS986/US991) and more information in the comments .
I have the international H815 and this issue killing my Knock Code experience (Had the G3 without any issue).
Thanks :good:
Edit:
I found a video that demonstrate the issue (it's not my making, but I do have the same issue) .
The app in the video is Multitouch Test and can be download here -
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=multitouchpro.tests
Another video demonstrating the issue (G4 on the left and G3 on the right) -
Another test by coolmaster121
Edit #2:
I sent emails to some Tech news websites, here is the first reports (thank you Android Authority and GsmArena!) -
http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-g4-touchscreen-issues-616662/
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g4_reportedly_facing_touchscreen_issues-news-12651.php
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Issues-with-the-LG-G4-touchscreen-prevent-quick-taps-and-touches-from-registering-on-the-screen_id70436
Update [6/18]:
According to Android Police LG US knows about the problem and they're looking into it.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/06/16/having-touchscreen-problems-with-your-lg-g4-lg-knows-and-theyre-looking-into-it/
Keep posting your experience and updates until they will issue a fix. :good:
That service menu option doesn't work for me On the H810 AT&T variant.
I am still getting missed taps. Debating swapping phones when I get back from work travel. It's very random when it will occur.
liamR said:
Hi Guys,
I noticed that there are more than one threads about this problem so I want to try collecting some information about it and see how many users affected by it. The purpose of this thread and poll is to take the outcome and contact LG and some Tech news websites, making LG respond to this issue ASAP.
If you not sure about having this issue, you can check it as follows (it worked for me) -
1. Open the Dialer and enter 277634#*# to enter the Service Menu.
2. Go to Device Test -> Service Menu - Manual Test -> Touch Draw Test - Manual.
3. Now touch/knock/slide on the test area (all of it) until its almost full and watch for missing registration (you will touch the screen and there will be no red mark). I repeated the test several times and almost every time I had misses.
You can add the device model (H815/H815x/H812/H811/H810/LS991/VS986/US991) and more information in the comments .
Thanks :good:
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Device Test is missing from my Service menu on H811
Maybe you can try 3845#*Model# (ex: 3845#*811#).
I have the VS986 version and I have a Mime tempered glass protector.
Noticing miss taps and the scrolling isn't fluid very choppy.
I've noticed a few missed taps, and I don't have anything on the screen.
it is happening on all lg g4s currently. im sure there will be a bug fix soon. maybe when we move up to 5.1.1
jerflash said:
it is happening on all lg g4s currently. im sure there will be a bug fix soon. maybe when we move up to 5.1.1
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I don't have any issues on my TMO variant though.
jerflash said:
it is happening on all lg g4s currently. im sure there will be a bug fix soon. maybe when we move up to 5.1.1
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I really hope so. Maybe if they will see it's a major issue they will come out with a fix asap. For now they're (LG) saying they don't know about it and there aren't complaints from users.
LG will claim they don't know about it until we raise a storm on social media, support cases, etc. So we need to organize an effort to make things happen.
Mine's not severe, on the edges, more than anything. Most noticeable when typing "p". I know it's there so I watch for it. Other pretty solid device for me (other than no Gmail notifications, but I'm not posting about that).
Mine has the problem. About to return it.
I just opened up a case with LG.
You should contact them via their live chat and reference the following case number. The more people report this, the faster we'll hear a response back. I really don't want to return this phone.
CASE# CNM150609024049
http://www.lg.com/us/support
Really annoying..thought it was my screen protector at first
Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk
I came from the S6 and I have noticed it as well. I really hope its something that LG addresses.. I want to keep this phone, but its pretty annoying when it happens..
I just sent mine back in today for this issue. No screen protector on mine. I have to decide if I want to go buy a replacement G4, or...something else. *dun-dun-duuuuuuunnnnnn*
I have had two G4s so far, both brand new from Tmobile. Both have this issue. I purchased one when it was released and the other one 6/8.
Is it possible that the people who are saying that this is not an issue are not seeing or noticing it, but it is still there?
Because if there is an issue with the display, and not all of the units are having it, then this is a Hardware defect, and cannot fully be fixed with software.
I just came from the s5, before that s4, and i thought i was just not used to an ips touchscreen but then i found this thread so i will try op
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I have had two G4s so far, both brand new from Tmobile. Both have this issue. I purchased one when it was released and the other one 6/8.
Is it possible that the people who are saying that this is not an issue are not seeing or noticing it, but it is still there?
Because if there is an issue with the display, and not all of the units are having it, then this is a Hardware defect, and cannot fully be fixed with software.
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That's my thoughts exactly. I really like this smartphone, but this issue is a deal breaker for me. I really hope that it's just software fix. I'm not planning to return it for now for replacement as I'm pretty sure that every device is affected (if it's hardware issue, from past experience we need to wait a few weeks or months for fixed batches). I'll give it some time and see what LG doing about it...
I have used a tempered glass on my G4 from minute 1, and i notice a very, very, very slight version of this issue, where taps sometimes dont register. it is very slight however, which makes me wonder maybe LG has set the touchscreen sensitivity a tad bit too low, and it could be fixed with an update. Its definitely not a hardware issue, as so many people are affected, and these screens get tested before production with like 5000 taps per minute by testing machines (seen from youtube videos).