Opera and NTLM support - HD2 General

Hi all,
since a couple of days I have a new HD2 and it's fantastic!
On my old Diamond I was able to enable the NTLM support in Network section of Opera config file but, with a big surprise, in the current configuration (on HD2) the NTLM is missing (in the Network section and other of configuration file).
Since I need authentication for ISA proxy (via NTLM) on company intranet (my connection is through dedicated APN that link directly on company intranet) I can't use Opera on my HD.
Any suggestion or workaround?
IE works corretly but don't suppport multi touch zoom so I would like to use Opera.
The previous version of Opera installed on Diamod (last italian official ROM) work perfectly.
Thanks all!!

I'm interested in this too (just bookmarking the page really).
I use IE as Opera doesn't work, but would rather use Opera. I browse private folders via IIS and don't have the opportunity to log in with Opera.

johncmolyneux said:
I'm interested in this too (just bookmarking the page really).
I use IE as Opera doesn't work, but would rather use Opera. I browse private folders via IIS and don't have the opportunity to log in with Opera.
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Doing the same (bookmarking), just for fun I tried to check some webapps on my corporate Intranet set up with IIS integrated authentication and it worked perfectly with IE. I didn't try with Opera. Will do on monday and see if I can come up with a solution

pat12 said:
Doing the same (bookmarking), just for fun I tried to check some webapps on my corporate Intranet set up with IIS integrated authentication and it worked perfectly with IE. I didn't try with Opera. Will do on monday and see if I can come up with a solution
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Opera doesn't offer a dialog to enter domain authentication. It just says "the server requested a login authentication method that is not supported."
It seems pretty sure of itself

I'm not entirely happy about this, but there appears to be a workround...
http://forums.asp.net/t/305782.aspx
Doesn't help if you don't have admin rights on the server, of course.

You are right on both accounts! It IS very sure of itself. As MS would say, this is not a bug, this is a feature or this is by design.
As for the workaround, I hadn't seen your post until now and being sysadmin for a lot of IIS servers, I thought about the same solution, tested and it works. I came back here to report about it but you beat me to the post by almost 48 hours -
Anyway, it's not a good solution and not everybody with a HD2 has admin rights on the IIS servers of his company.
So we are stuck with IE until maybe a new version of Opera mobile. After all, Opera on desktops supports it (sort of...)

Ok, thanks for support.
What sounds strange to me, is that Opera installed on my old Diamond implement the NTLM authentication and the version on HD2 (newer) not at all. Moreover I installed the Opera 10 beta and, in this version also, the NTLM support is missing (I don't find it in the configuration file).
Why they removed it?

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Integrated Windows Authentication

Hi,
I'm having a mare trying to get more info anywhere on the web.
I have an Intranet based web app running on latest version of IIS with .NET & SQL Server 2000 (on different boxes) using Integrated Windows Authentication (the IIS is trusted to the SQL Server box)
It runs fine on IE v6 provided the Enable Integrated Windows Authentication checkbox is ticked.
However on the XDA using Pocket IE (ROM 3.17.03 ENG) it gives Login failed for user 'NT AUTHORITY \ANONYMOUS LOGON' which usually means no Integrated Windows Authentication.
I can't find any docos on whether Integrated Windows Authentication is supported in Pocket PC 2002 - has anyone else come accross this or got any pointers they could help me with?
Thanks
As far as I know, Integrated Windows Authentication means that IIS will use the user's Windows login to authenticate the user. This is normally using your DomainName\Username for windows. When you are on your xda, you are not authenticated by Windows as the xda is not on the domain and you are logging into "Windows" using the same DomainName\Username on your xda. Try changing the IIS setting to use simple authentication so that users are prompted for a username and password to access the website.
I hope this helps
Thanks Illwil.
I can't allow simple authentication on the IIS as it will then screw the security for PC users (ie 99%)
I'm already logging onto the Domain via a dial up connection so it should all be OK
I think its something to do with Pocket IE declaring itself as IE version 4 to the Web Server rather than as Pocket IE
IE v4 doesn't support NTLM authentication (ie Windows Integrated Authentication) whereas I think Pocket IE should.
Also I've got 2002 which means that ByPass proxy server for local sites is automatic so its not that.
Still scrabbling - any help still gratefully received!
An answer after 3 months!
Bit of a dull one I know but just in case anyone was interested (!) I've used some mobile web forms instead of normal web forms - they only support ObjectList as opposed to DataGrid but seem to allow the windows integrated seciruty to work.
Thanks to anyone that gave this some thought.
John

Yahoo Mobile not working with Pocket IE on k-Jam

Hi,
I've been trying to access Yahoo Mobile (http://wap.oa.yahoo.com) via my k-Jam, and I always get a "Cannot Connect" popup from Pocket IE.
It doesn't matter whether I go through WiFi or GPRS -- the result is the same (cannot connect).
However, when I try using a different web browser (not pocket IE) it _works_ (and I can do regular http get's to the Yahoo Mobile site, etc.)
Secondly, if I try through a proxy server (from Pocket IE) it works.
Has anyone seen this (or know what might be happening)?
Not sure, as I haven't tried it, but instead of http:// try wap:// or wsp://
Tried wsp with no luck
Yep, I'd already tried wsp:// (wap:// doesn't work on k-Jam).
The problem gets stranger still: If I explicitly insert the IP address for wap.oa.yahoo.com in the URL it works (but this doesn't help much, because the home page contains links that use the explicit host name).
But, as I said, every other application on the k-Jam can properly resolve the hostname and connect. It's something "different" about the way Pocket IE does DNS resolution I'm guessing.
I'm not absolutly sure, but I think Yahoo Mobile is compressed, that's why PIE cannot render it.

Email web log in problem

CAn anyone please help with the following problem?
When I log onto my email provider's web access page using a WiFi connection from my Hermes everything goes OK until the point when I have to enter my username and password. At this point all keyboard input into the relevent boxes appears to be disabled, but I can still control the browser OK. Any ideas ??
chances are the site is encrypted or uses SSL and the version of pocket IE on your device does not support logging into that site. you can set the account up in messaging or you can try a different browser such as opera mobile.
http://www.opera.com/download/mobil... Pocket PC phones running Windows Mobile 5.0
Im not sure if this file works on WM6 but I had no problems when i used it on WM5.
Thanks Cliff I will try Opera - never did like IE anyway

owa access

I'm trying hard to like my x1, can anyone help?
Whenever I try to access OWA using either PIE or Opera I get a page cannot be displayed error. Anyone else seen this and got a solution? OWA works fine using my E90 S60 browser.
Thanks, Martyn.
Just tried it on Opera 9.5 build 15202 and it renders really nicely - pleasantly surprised!
Doesn't work in my Opera Mobile. Can't remember the build. It's the one with Manila favs from Itje's thread.
It works nice and is really fast (as always) in latest Opera Mini.
martynb said:
I'm trying hard to like my x1, can anyone help?
Whenever I try to access OWA using either PIE or Opera I get a page cannot be displayed error. Anyone else seen this and got a solution? OWA works fine using my E90 S60 browser.
Thanks, Martyn.
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Try Opera Mini.
I'd not like to use Opera Mini for sensible sites
like OWA. It transmits logins over a proxy,i don't
think it's a good idea...
why don't you use Active Sync? You can sync it
manually and e.g. only for the last days. But for
the most it uses less traffic then visiting
the OWA site everyday...
Better yet, set up your push email. It keeps a HTTPS session alive. You just need to install the certificate on your PC to set up the sync, which you can get from OWA.
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Better yet, set up your push email. It keeps a HTTPS session alive. You just need to install the certificate on your PC to set up the sync, which you can get from OWA.
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How?
Will it work without OMA (mobile access)? I don't think so. We don't have a frontend server to support ssl connection from mobile devices, and I'm pretty sure I've tried everything.
If you have a magic way to make it work I would really like to know.
I've been having the same problem...
...and I tried Activesync, but I get a 'certificate' error. I can't figure out how to get the certificate on my device.
I spent days searching the web for an answer... and I gave up after a while.
Oms said:
I've been having the same problem...
...and I tried Activesync, but I get a 'certificate' error. I can't figure out how to get the certificate on my device.
I spent days searching the web for an answer... and I gave up after a while.
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If you have the .cer file, you just copy it to your device like any other file and run it from there. It should install. I had a few weird cert errors when trying to get mine to work but random poking and prodding seemed to get it up and running eventually.
maedox said:
How?
Will it work without OMA (mobile access)? I don't think so. We don't have a frontend server to support ssl connection from mobile devices, and I'm pretty sure I've tried everything.
If you have a magic way to make it work I would really like to know.
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To be honest, I don't know, I'm not the exchange admin.
My company's fairly tightfisted when it comes to IT expenditure, so I'd be surprised if they forked out anything extra.
A cursory glance at MS's documentation implies that it shouldn't be necessary because as far as the exchange server is concerned, it can't tell the difference between WinMo's client and a regular web browser. I stand to be corrected by someone who actually knows what they're talking about.
Try installing the cert and setting up your server in Active Sync. It should just work.
I had problem in my work getting this working but after a clean install of OWA on our front end server everything worked properly. The only think needed on the X1 was to import the cer file if you going to use Exchange/Active Sync connection as someone has already suggested.
IE and Opera always worked it was just Active Sync which had problems.
I've just recently got an X1 and been trying furiously to get active sync to work. But as I don't have access to the exchange server at work, I've been trying to find out how to obtain a copy of the cert from my outlook.
Haven't been able to find anything, any suggestions would be much appreciated!
Grab the cert from the OWA website, cause it should be SSL encrypted. The browser shows the encryption with a small lock symbol. Click on it an get more information about the cert. When you opened it, open the cert for the CA shown on the last register. In there choose "save to file" and copy it to your phone.
On the phone open the cert with any file explorer, that will import it into the phone's cert store. From now your phone will trust your company internal CA.
This way is only useful, if your company uses self generated certs with an internal CA. You can see this, if your browser at home (the pc there has nothing to do with your company) show an cert warning, if you open the OWA website. If you really can't get acces to this site from the internet, forget all of the above
Brilliant! I'll give that a go when I get home! I'll let you know how I get on.
Thanks again mcfisch!
I just realised what I did wrong the first time. Under server, I put the wrong address didn't I. However, I've come across another problem, Where it asks for the login credentials, there' username, password and domain, what do I put under domain?
Its all sorted now! I can't believe I was being such a dumbass! I was over complicating things way too much!
Happy days!!!!!!!!

[UPDATED 2009-11-24] Company proxy problem - there is a solution (start checking #2)

Hi all,
As far as I know anybody that needs to connect to the internet through a company proxy (3G or wifi), using Win Mobile 6.1 or 6.5, is facing "big problems".
From what I found doing some searches here in xda and in the internet this seems to be due:
- to a "bug" in the proxy configuration sw that keeps to "0" (instead of "1") the "Type" field of the HTTP-{xxxxxxx} key in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{EF097F4C-DC4B-4c98-8FF6-AEF805DC0E8E}. In other words is like keeping NullProxy configuration insead of HTTP... But this seems to be an "old bug", now the correct configuration is properly saved (I checked in the 6.5 rom I am using and I can confirm).
- But even if the correct configuration is there the proxy password it is ignored, at least for HTTP (source: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa455855.aspx )
For that reason, in my experience, the only programs that can access the net are Internet Explorer and Opera, that allow the user to insert account and pw of the proxy and go ahead... And this should confirm that only the configured proxy address is properly used, not the stored account and password...
But now the "surprise":
I can confirm that the following 4 roms ALLOWED ME TO SURF THE NET TRHOUGH A PROXY WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM !!!
I mean update the weather, use GoogleMaps, use MusicID, check sw updates, update GPS data... and so on !!!
The named roms (for the HD) are:
WM 6.5: (NEW !!!)
[ROM][WWE] XannyTechROM GRID LEO M2.5 ROMS (all versions)
(Note: only with the proxy password saved also in Internet Explorer...)
WM 6.1:
[ROM][WWE][24.07.09][21051.1.6.4]-=® panosha ® =-Black Pearl v 3.4 ("open" ROM, as the author says in his first post)
[ROM][ITA][14/04/2009] LP HD EVO II (5.2.21041 build 21042) Latest Manila
And now the question, as the solution must exist:
Where should we look to find the proper configuration in order to finally use it in all other roms ??
I started checking from the registry, but with no success..
I really hope to see some interest in this, as I understand it is not a "really common" problem...
Regards,
K
THE SOLUTION ... or at least the "very beginning" of it !!
I start suspecting that when the proxy password is saved also in Internet Explorer the chances to be able to use a company proxy with password are increasing... but I still do not understand...
What follows is what I noticed:
- In the WM 6.5 XannyTech ROMs I am using before saving the IE proxy password ONLY the quick GPS update was working (weather update, google maps, ecc. were not able to connect...). This actually means that both account and password of the configured proxy where properly used... but only from the quick GPS progam...
- When I saved the IE proxy password ALL programs that are using the network properly worked... that means that all programs properly red the proxy address stored in the "network section" and the proxy password from IE...
Can somebody try with other ROMs ??
Regards,
K
PS: And why with other ROMs this does not seem to allways happen ??
me 2, the same issue.
I have been trying but still unsuccessfull.
I hope someone can find the solution for this.
Found new rom working
I found another HD rom working properly:
[ROM][WWE] XannyTechROM GRID LEO 1.7b M2.5
So, as I said, a solution exists... but where ??
Regards, K
(PS: First post updated)
Updated post #2
K
PS: Actually I wrote this post mainly to keep the thread "in the first page"... sorry about that !
I'm using Kisja's WM6.1 ROM (thread) and cannot get proxy to work at my university. I can access local sites, which probably means that there is something wrong with the proxy settings.
But here comes the weird thing: I can check mail through the standard WM e-mail client, and this works great, but I cannot update Manila weather nor surf the web! I've tried both Opera and IE without success.
longice said:
I'm using Kisja's WM6.1 ROM (thread) and cannot get proxy to work at my university. I can access local sites, which probably means that there is something wrong with the proxy settings.
But here comes the weird thing: I can check mail through the standard WM e-mail client, and this works great, but I cannot update Manila weather nor surf the web! I've tried both Opera and IE without success.
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Just to be sure that I understood: are you using account and password to connect to the proxy, or only the address ?
In may case, I use account and password.
And, just to share, some other little things:
- Not all programs are working through a proxy with account and password... for example Midomi works only through a proxyless connection
- This, toghether with what alreay noticed in the previous posts, confirms that there are programs able to use WM proxy configuration and others not...
We will see...
K
I think that it may be based on the WM build # and what has been removed.
I know I would try dasense's daG's latest kitchen (or equivalent for your phone) without excluding any windows sys packages or certs and running the latest com5 build. 23515.5.5.0
Everything that I've tried works through my company proxy currently.
kostas66 said:
a "bug" in the proxy configuration sw that keeps to "0" (instead of "1") the "Type" field of the HTTP-{xxxxxxx} key in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\
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If found the responsible for this (at least from what I'm seeing : you have a company proxy set up on your USB ActiveSync connection and as soon as you do a sync the "Type" field goes from "1" to "0" thus disabling the proxy.
You'll find a key in "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\App\Tasks" that is something like "DisableProxy", delete this key, restart the phone and you'll be all right.
It seems to me that this is a HTC feature; on some rom it is enabled, not on others... go figure (and I don't know why such a feature exists)
Regards,
Stéphane.
thanks alot
Hello all, I found the solution.
You must:
set the proxy in the APN configuration
connect to the net via Internet Explorer
fill the username and password in Internet Explorer and SAVE it
that's all
This worked for me with the plain rom in the HTC HD2

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