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Hi,
Well, to keep it short, I've been told by a friend in china that he can get me a htc hd2, but running on MTK OS instead of wm6.5, first i hesitated as i though it might be one of this ****ty clones that china produce, but he told me that it's from the main manufacturer whom already in china, maybe they produce it with this mtk with a good price due to high wm license prices...
I really like this phone but here in Egypt the price is almost 2.5X it's original price, so i thought i might get it and install wm6.5 on it instead of mtk, of course if it possible, so i need your opinion guys about this idea???!!!!!! and i would never find any place better that here for this matter....
He sent me the specs of it wich i like to share with you:
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Size:
Weight: 157 grams (5.54 ounces) with battery
Buttons:
CPU Processing Speed
1GHz Snapdragon processor
Power & Battery1
Battery type: Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery
Capacity: 1230 mAh
Talk time:
WCDMA: Up to 320 mins
GSM: Up to 380 mins
Standby time:
WCDMA: Up to 390 hours
GSM: Up to 490 hours
Video playback Up to 8 hours
Audio playback: Up to 12 hours
Camera
3 megapixel color camera
Dual LED flashlight
Connectors
3.5 mm stereo audio jack
Standard Micro-USB
(5-pin micro-USB 2.0)
Sensors
G-Sensor
Proximity sensor
Ambient light sensor
Home, People, Messages, Mail, Internet, Calendar, Stocks, Photos & Videos, Music, Weather, Footprints, Twitter,
Social Networking
Facebook integration
Sharing photos on Facebook and Twitter
Sharing videos on YouTube
HTC Peep for twittering
Type: Capacitive touch screen
Resolution: 480 X 800 WVGA
Operating System
OS MTK OS
ROM: 512 MB
RAM: 448 MB
Expansion slot: microSD memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)
Network Bands2
Europe:
HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Asia Pacific:
HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Internet3
Browser: Opera Mobile
3G: video communacation and voice chat
Up to 7.2 Mbps download speed
Up to 2 Mbps upload speed
GPRS: Up to 114 kbps download speed
EDGE: Up to 560 kbps download speed
Wi-Fi®: IEEE 802.11 b/g
Wi-Fi Router
Bluetooth® 2.1 with Enhanced Data Rate
Supported profiles: A2DP, AVRCP, BIP, BPP, DUN, FTP, GAP, GOEP, HFP, HID, HSP, OPP, PAN, PBAP, SAP, SPP
Albums
Pictures & Videos
FM Radio
Audio supported formats:
.aac, .amr, .m4a, .mid, .mp3, .mp4, .qcp, .wav, .wma
Video supported formats:
.wmv, .asf, .mp4, .3gp, .3g2, .m4v, .avi
Location
Internal GPS antenna
HTC Footprints
Digital Compass
Battery times (talk time, standby time, and more) are subject to network and phone usage.
Network bands in regions other than Europe and Asia Pacific may be different, depending on the mobile operator and your location. Please check with your mobile operator.
Actual data speed is dependent on the network or Wi-Fi signal strength.
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thanks' in advance,
mike
sounds like a bad rip-off to me.. .
why don't you get your friend to send it to you, then if its good pay him?
If he's a friend surely he'll do that?
otherwise if it sounds to good to be true then it's going to be too good to be true..
I'd steer clear
3MP camera? Should be 5MP if its genuine. Also apps like peep or footprints are winmo apps so wouldn't work on mtk
yea, maybe you'are right,,,
i will tell him to send it to me, in my hands i will know if it's a genuine or a f***** damn clone(sorry, i just hate those Chinese clones),,,
the price is $250 by the way,,,
but if so,,,is it still possible to load the original rom and wm6.5 to it?????
mike
Astromic said:
yea, maybe you'are right,,,
i will tell him to send it to me, in my hands i will know if it's a genuine or a f***** damn clone(sorry, i just hate those Chinese clones),,,
the price is $250 by the way,,,
but if so,,,is it still possible to load the original rom and wm6.5 to it?????
mike
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probably not.. unless it's 100% genuine..
if you could ask him to send some photo's of this device i would be interested. if i'd really turns out to be a authentic hd2 (what i honestly doubt verry much) its a great deal!
As far as I know, HTC only has manufacturing plants in Taiwan and Brazil. I have not heard that the company has set up any plants in China. My information may be outdated, but I checked on the web about this just a few weeks ago.
My guess is that it is a fake, and that the quality would be very much suspect.
And that MTK OS is pretty much exclusively used by Chinese phones - I'd see no reason to see it on an HTC device.
kilrah said:
And that MTK OS is pretty much exclusively used by Chinese phones - I'd see no reason to see it on an HTC device.
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You are quite right. HTC only produces phones using Android, the Brew® Mobile Platform, or Microsoft's mobile platform. The MTK OS is popular in China, and part of it is it can be set up to look like an original, without the functionality.
MTK is actually the processor name, short for Media Tek. Try google "T8585 MTK HD2" and you will find some info regarding the latest model. I read somewhere the latest update even have multitouch capacitive WVGA display. BTW, it is quite a good clone, running updated public domain WM6.5 ... and cost a fraction of the real thing. I wonder if anyone is doing a homebrew for this?
BTW, beware that some sellers might post wrong specs... its running dual Core, MTK6516 ARM9 460MHz (applications) + 280MHz (phone), RAM: 256 MB / ROM: 512 MB, dual sim and no 3G ... unless they release a new update.
I just realized that according to what Google has already laid out, the HTC Desire Z with its 800 MHz processor doesn't meet the minimum specs standard to upgrade to Android 3.0 aka Gingerbread (at least not "officially") becaue the minimum requird spec is 1 GHz !!
I hope xda-devs comes up with a solution (overclocking ?? hybrid port ??)
because I love the form factor and the fact the Desire Z is HTC and has the latest sense UI
I'm very concerned... I don't want to invest on a phone that will become obsolete that fast !! (gingerbread is scheduled for december-january)
What do you guys think about this ??
The dark side (Droid 2 world edition) is tempting me...
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gtrab said:
I just realized that according to what Google has already laid out, the HTC Desire Z with its 800 MHz processor doesn't meet the minimum specs standard to upgrade to Android 3.0 aka Gingerbread (at least not "officially") becaue the minimum requird spec is 1 GHz !!
I hope xda-devs comes up with a solution (overclocking ?? hybrid port ??)
because I love the form factor and the fact the Desire Z is HTC and has the latest sense UI
I'm very concerned... I don't want to invest on a phone that will become obsolete that fast !! (gingerbread is scheduled for december-january)
What do you guys think about this ??
The dark side (Droid 2 world edition) is tempting me...
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For one you are in America right? So you can't get the Desire Z anyway, you can get the G2 though.
And secondly, this crap about Gingerbread requiring a 1Ghz processor to run was a rumour that Google debunked ages ago so please just get over it and wait like the rest of us to find out what exactly is happening with Gingerbread.
And in anycase the D2 World Edition is almost identical to the Desire Z/G2 anyway. HTC have the new CPU and GPU on these where as the D2 has the new CPU and same old GPU as the original so really they seem on par if this was your case for choosing that so you 'will definitely get Gingerbread'
gtrab said:
I just realized that according to what Google has already laid out, the HTC Desire Z with its 800 MHz processor doesn't meet the minimum specs standard to upgrade to Android 3.0 aka Gingerbread (at least not "officially") becaue the minimum requird spec is 1 GHz !!
I hope xda-devs comes up with a solution (overclocking ?? hybrid port ??)
because I love the form factor and the fact the Desire Z is HTC and has the latest sense UI
I'm very concerned... I don't want to invest on a phone that will become obsolete that fast !! (gingerbread is scheduled for december-january)
What do you guys think about this ??
The dark side (Droid 2 world edition) is tempting me...
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Besides, The Moto Droid 1 for example can OC to 1.2GHz the G2 should be fine
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For one you are in America right? So you can't get the Desire Z anyway, you can get the G2 though.
And secondly, this crap about Gingerbread requiring a 1Ghz processor to run was a rumour that Google debunked ages ago so please just get over it and wait like the rest of us to find out what exactly is happening with Gingerbread.
And in anycase the D2 World Edition is almost identical to the Desire Z/G2 anyway. HTC have the new CPU and GPU on these where as the D2 has the new CPU and same old GPU as the original so really they seem on par if this was your case for choosing that so you 'will definitely get Gingerbread'
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I find your response very emotional, hey I obviously prefer an HTC device over a Moto one, but the upgradeability is very important for me. I need facts.
Regarding the american bands, pdadb says there's an US version Desire Z scheduled for december
If those google requirements have been 'debunked', I'd appreciate if you can share some links/quotations from trusted sources
gtrab said:
I find your response very emotional, hey I obviously prefer an HTC device over a Moto one, but the upgradeability is very important for me. I need facts.
Regarding the american bands, pdadb says there's an US version Desire Z scheduled for december
If those google requirements have been 'debunked', I'd appreciate if you can share some links/quotations from trusted sources
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I'm guessing the reason he seems "Emotional" is because this same post keeps popping up again and again on every forum, and it seems people will keep churning them out with no end in sight. The rumor is based on a tweet. There are tons of articles about this. (I haven't posted allot to this forum so can't actually post links, but just google for it.)
If you want to see the original statements by googles team you can search twitter for it. We have no reason to assume Desire Z wouldn't get a 3.0 update, if devices like Desire would. And at any rate, the Qualcomm 7230 (Which is the chip in use) is designed to run between 800 and 1000mhz.
The guys designing these devices aren't stupid. They wouldn't release a device (indeed a premier device) if it's going to go obsolete or at least behind within 6 months. Yes, droid devices are constantly moving forward but certainly not that fast. Just don't worry about this kinda stuff.
Thth are recommend specs the g2 will be plenty fast enough
Sent from my HTC Super Hero using XDA App which doesn't have the word iPhone in its vocabulary, and I wish I didn't either all on my custom baked Rom
The 800Mhz proc from the Desire Z is a Dual-Core processor, so, it's better than the 1Ghz proc from my good old HTC Desire ! I think it has the requirements for Gingerbread !
PS: Andy 3.0 isn't GingerBread
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The 800Mhz proc from the Desire Z is a Dual-Core processor, so, it's better than the 1Ghz proc from my good old HTC Desire
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dual proccesor not dual-core. dual as in the cpu and gpu are separate.
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dual proccesor not dual-core. dual as in the cpu and gpu are separate.
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Interresting.. Qustion is, if this 'slower' dual cpu, then will be faster, than the single CPU, with intergrated graphics, but higher mhz?
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Interresting.. Qustion is, if this 'slower' dual cpu, then will be faster, than the single CPU, with intergrated graphics, but higher mhz?
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Of course it will.. But mostly it will depend on operation. You can never compare a first 1 generation cpu with later generation by just looking at cpu frequency.
Any link to that supposedly "debunked" minimum hardware reqs ??
I'm lookinig for some confidence on this matter.
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is there anything else coming to the market with a qwerty hook up and touch screen?
Im over winmo and want to try an android phone.
Right now i have TP2 and b4 that i had Touch HD
Does Simbian suck?
I need something that i can use when i go to the UK as well, so like Droid X and all that stuff doesnt work for me.
I like this new HTC but everyone talking about 1ghz and dual processors and how its gonna be slow and no front facing cam blah blah blah makes me think twice, or three times even.
Frankly I think the front-facing camera thing is a bit of a white elephant at the moment. I've had one on my phone for about three years now (Win Mo) and I've never used it once. OK that may change as networks get faster, but I see no real need for one now.
Andre
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is there anything else coming to the market with a qwerty hook up and touch screen?
Im over winmo and want to try an android phone.
Right now i have TP2 and b4 that i had Touch HD
Does Simbian suck?
I need something that i can use when i go to the UK as well, so like Droid X and all that stuff doesnt work for me.
I like this new HTC but everyone talking about 1ghz and dual processors and how its gonna be slow and no front facing cam blah blah blah makes me think twice, or three times even.
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There's that Verizon phone that's been floating around recently that had the fire red keyboard. if I'm not mistaken from one of the pics it's a dual mode and has a sim slot though to be honest you will likely pay a huge premium using that or any other phone like t outside the states.
Think it's either a 3.8" or 4" screen.
johseph said:
is there anything else coming to the market with a qwerty hook up and touch screen?
Im over winmo and want to try an android phone.
Right now i have TP2 and b4 that i had Touch HD
Does Simbian suck?
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I am looking to jump from Symbian to Android but am stuck due to the hardware. You might like to consider the Nokia E7 but it's anyone's guess as to when it might actually see the light of day. As an example, the N8 announced six months ago has still not gone on sale yet!
Symbian is functional but I'm afraid that's about all I can say about it from a user perspective. It doesn't have the developer support of the likes of Android and iOS. The point in its favour is the hardware is generally better - better cameras better audio and often better build quality.
Swings and roundabouts I'm afraid ... always the case!
Desire Z using second generation of Qualcomms Snapdragon, as i write in other post, read this:
My opinion : Desire Z is faster .. and do you know why?
So..
Desire HD using Qualcomm QSD8255 -> it is Snapdragon 1st generation
specifications:
Scorpion 1 GHz CPU
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
QSD8250 supports GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
QSD8650 supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B, GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
Low-power 65nm process technology
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
GPU - 3D graphics with up to 22M triangles/sec and 133M 3D pixels/sec
High-resolution up to WXGA (1280x720) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in seventh-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
Bud Desire Z using Qualcomm MSM7230 -> Snapdragon 2nd generation
Specifications:
Scorpion 800 MHz CPU (can be safely overclocked to 1GHz = Recommanded Maximum )
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
MSM7230 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads
MSM7630 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 15.761 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE
Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration
High-resolution XGA (1024x768) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
So Desire Z have:
CPU on 800MHz .. but not problem go to 1GHz = Same as Desire HD
GPU 2 x better then Desire HD GPU = +1 to Desire Z
45nm technology - Desire HD have 65nm technology = +1 to Desire Z
So in SoC category is Desire Z better then Desire HD.
Regards, MiTMaN
PS: Repair me please when Im wrong.
nice contrib MiTMaNeK
that GPU thing is particularily interesting
thanks for sharing
Here's the Doird2/Milestone2's 1GHz OMAP 3620 specs
source
-Clock 1000 MHz
-45 nm
-ARM Cortex A8
-IVA 2+ harware accelerator (up to 4x multimedia performance vs previous OMAPs), Multi-standard (MPEG-4, H.264) encode/decode and WMV9 decode at D1 (720 x 480 pixels) at 30 fps - Up to 720p HD res
- PowerVR SGX 530 graphics core (from Imagination Technologies) dedicated 2D/3D graphics hardware accelerator - Support for OpenGL ES 1.1, Open GL ES 2.0, OpenVG
- Image signal processor supporting up to 12 megapixel
- Composite and S-video TV output
- up to WXGA (1280 x 800), 16-million color (24-bit definition) display support
- Linux, Microsoft Windows Mobile, Android Mobile Platform and Symbian
I couldn't find triangles/sec stuff for this one
Note also that this new GPU/CPU combo chip is different to the Snapdragon found in earlier HTC Androids. It is likely that 800MHz on this new chip bears similar performance to 1GHz on another chip.
This is very similar to comparing Intel and AMD CPUs on the desktop. Because different processor designs have varying Instructions-Per-Clock, you can't make a simple comparison between clock frequencies.
The other thing to note is that a major complaint with smart phones (and Android in particular) is terrible battery life when comparing them to feature phones. I'd be happy with a lower maximum clock if it meant longer times between charges.
i think Desire HD using 2nd Generation Snapdragon 1GHz processor which is call Qualcomm QSD825 Scorpion.
So, the Desire HD will should have better performance than Desire Z.
But Desire Z should have better performance than Desire(1st generation snapdragon).
You may check the CPU details at Qualcomm website.
EDIT: Similar topic already being discussed. Please direct further discussion to Desire Z vs. Desire HD. Thank You. ~TheRomMistress
Hi
Can any one tell me which device is faster
HTC Desire Z or HTC Desire HD
and if want one of them which one you will take
Desire HD has 1 ghz and Desire Z/Vision have 800 mhz soooo figure it out on ur own
Sent from my HTC Espresso, that is apperantly a failing device using the XDA App
the desire hd is the fastest android phone now. the desire z might be faster than the current nexus and desire due to the newer design even though clock speed is slower.
the z is an underclocked hd
that should be all the info u need
Well actually Desire HD is running with a MSM8255, and Z with a MSM7230. Both 45nm, so power usage should be considerably down from last gen, but I haven't seen any real benchmarks to compare the chips yet. We can probably assume HD will be faster in every regard; that's what it's supposed to be. (I'm still getting a Z! )
i wouldnt count on it being faster in every regard, different resolution remember, higher=more stress on graphics. they prob about the same if anything
My opinion : Desire Z is faster .. and do you know why?
So..
Desire HD using Qualcomm QSD8255 -> it is Snapdragon 1st generation
specifications:
Scorpion 1 GHz CPU
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
QSD8250 supports GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
QSD8650 supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B, GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
Low-power 65nm process technology
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
GPU - 3D graphics with up to 22M triangles/sec and 133M 3D pixels/sec
High-resolution up to WXGA (1280x720) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in seventh-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
Bud Desire Z using Qualcomm MSM7230 -> Snapdragon 2nd generation
Specifications:
Scorpion 800 MHz CPU (can be safely overclocked to 1GHz = Recommanded Maximum )
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
MSM7230 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads
MSM7630 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 15.761 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE
Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration
High-resolution XGA (1024x768) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
So Desire Z have:
CPU on 800MHz .. but not problem go to 1GHz = Same as Desire HD
GPU 2 x better then Desire HD GPU = +1 to Desire Z
45nm technology - Desire HD have 65nm technology = +1 to Desire Z
So in SoC category is Desire Z better then Desire HD.
Regards, MiTMaN
PS: Repair me please when Im wrong.
You are wrong, MiTMaNeK; both MSM8255 and MSM7230 are 2nd gen chipsets. I can't post a link but look it up on qualcomm's site.
They're the same except for clock speed.
MiTMaNeK said:
My opinion : Desire Z is faster .. and do you know why?
So..
Desire HD using Qualcomm QSD8255 -> it is Snapdragon 1st generation
specifications:
Scorpion 1 GHz CPU
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
QSD8250 supports GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
QSD8650 supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B, GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
Low-power 65nm process technology
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
GPU - 3D graphics with up to 22M triangles/sec and 133M 3D pixels/sec
High-resolution up to WXGA (1280x720) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in seventh-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
Bud Desire Z using Qualcomm MSM7230 -> Snapdragon 2nd generation
Specifications:
Scorpion 800 MHz CPU (can be safely overclocked to 1GHz = Recommanded Maximum )
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
MSM7230 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads
MSM7630 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 15.761 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE
Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration
High-resolution XGA (1024x768) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
So Desire Z have:
CPU on 800MHz .. but not problem go to 1GHz = Same as Desire HD
GPU 2 x better then Desire HD GPU = +1 to Desire Z
45nm technology - Desire HD have 65nm technology = +1 to Desire Z
So in SoC category is Desire Z better then Desire HD.
Regards, MiTMaN
PS: Repair me please when Im wrong.
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Great summary, one m ore question:
Normal Desire has Qualcomm Snapdragon QSD8250 1 GHz processor and Desire HD QSD8255 cpu, which means it is newer?
So maybe Desire HD has 45nm die shrink and better GPU like Desire Z?
Mine question is, does Desire Z has faster GPU than normal Desire(I am planing to move to Desire Z, I simply love it's keyboard) and does it uses less power than normal Desire(45nm vs 65nm ?)
Having looked at the various spec sheets out there (including the list of devices using the MSM8255 and the MSM7230) it looks like the HD and Z both have a 2nd gen 45nm based CPU both with the same adreno 205 GPU. Its essentially a tie between the two I would summise since one device's pros outweigh the other's cons and vice versa.
Personnaly Im not bothered about having an 8MP camera since I would prefer a hardware qwerty keyboard, the two devices are both good however I prefer the Z.
The only difference, according to qualcomms website, is the additional 3D acceleration bits in the Z (highlighted in bold), which is encouraging
The MSM8x55 chipset platform consists of the MSM8255™ and MSM8655™ and features a newly designed and optimized multimedia sub-system over previous Snapdragon generations.
* Scorpion 1 GHz CPU
* Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
o MSM8255 support for HSPA+ networks – up to14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads
o MSM8655 support for HSPA+ networks – up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B
* Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
* High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
o Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, MPEG-2, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, On2 VP6)
* High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/se with dedicated 2D Open VG graphics hardware
* High-resolution up to XGA (1024x768) display support
* 12-megapixel camera support
* Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
* Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
* Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
* Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
* Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
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The MSM7x30 chipset platform consists of the MSM7230™ and MSM7630™.
* Scorpion 800 MHz CPU
* Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
o MSM7230 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads
o MSM7630 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 15.761 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE
* Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
* High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
o Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
* High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration
* High-resolution XGA (1024x768) display support
* 12-megapixel camera support
* Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
* Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
* Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
* Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
* Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor)
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
Ok, and normal Desire has 65nm CPU and old GPU?
And about the camera, I don't need 8MP at all, pics are only bigger with more MP(and has more noise) I would prefer 5MP cam with less noise.
MiTMaNeK said:
My opinion : Desire Z is faster .. and do you know why?
So..
Desire HD using Qualcomm QSD8255 -> it is Snapdragon 1st generation
specifications:
Scorpion 1 GHz CPU
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
QSD8250 supports GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
QSD8650 supports CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel 0/A/B, GSM, GPRS, EDGE and HSPA networks
Low-power 65nm process technology
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
GPU - 3D graphics with up to 22M triangles/sec and 133M 3D pixels/sec
High-resolution up to WXGA (1280x720) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in seventh-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
Bud Desire Z using Qualcomm MSM7230 -> Snapdragon 2nd generation
Specifications:
Scorpion 800 MHz CPU (can be safely overclocked to 1GHz = Recommanded Maximum )
Integrated 3G mobile broadband connectivity
MSM7230 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14 Mbps downloads and 5.76 Mbps uploads
MSM7630 support for HSPA+ networks - up to 14.4 Mbps downloads and 15.761 Mbps uploads – as well as CDMA2000 1X, 1xEV-DO Rel A/B, GSM, GPRS and EDGE
Low-power 45nm process technology for higher integration and performance
High-definition (720p) video recording and playback up to 30 frames per second
Multiple video codecs: (MPEG-4, H.264, H.263, VC-1, DivX, DivX 3.11, Sorenson Spark, VP6)
High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration
High-resolution XGA (1024x768) display support
12-megapixel camera support
Built-in eighth-generation gps engine with Standalone-GPS and Assisted-GPS modes
Support for Wi-Fi® and Bluetooth® connectivity
Multiple audio codecs: (AAC+, eAAC+, AMR, FR, EFR, HR, WB-AMR, G.729a, G.711, AAC stereo encode)
Support for mobile broadcast TV (MediaFLO™, DVB-H and ISDB-T)
Support for Android™, Brew® Mobile Platform and Windows® Phone
So Desire Z have:
CPU on 800MHz .. but not problem go to 1GHz = Same as Desire HD
GPU 2 x better then Desire HD GPU = +1 to Desire Z
45nm technology - Desire HD have 65nm technology = +1 to Desire Z
So in SoC category is Desire Z better then Desire HD.
Regards, MiTMaN
PS: Repair me please when Im wrong.
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I posted a reply on this yesterday evening, but I guess it went lost in the downtime. I made a nice quote with information, but now I'm too lazy to do it again.
You are making the mistake of thinking the DHD has a first generation snapdragon (the QSD8255, wich doesn't excist, actually it's the QSD8250). This is not true, it has the second generation Scorpion (MSM8255) as well as the Desire Z has. Only difference is speed it's running on.
So basically, the Desire HD is (on paper) faster then the Desire Z. The question ofcourse is how the extra 200 MHz wil turn out in extra performance.
Found Quadrant scores on Desire HD and Desire Z on smartphonebenchmarks.com
Desire HD Quadrant score 1974
Desire Z(HTC G2/Desire Z) Quadrant score 1499
CeasarRAPH100 said:
Found Quadrant scores on Desire HD and Desire Z on smartphonebenchmarks.com
Desire HD Quadrant score 1974
Desire Z(HTC G2/Desire Z) Quadrant score 1499
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and what does this number say?
I see the oc'd Desire gets around 1880 and a custom rom galaxy S gets 2250
but does that mean it's fast?
I think I read about 8255 that it has more L2 cache than 7xxx series ... but any ways both are A8 Gen so I just wait for A9 tegra
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Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor)
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html
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That wikipedia link is not correct: it puts the Desire HD & Z in the 1st gen row.
This is the correct link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor) (dunno why it does that )
It does show that they both use the Adreno 205 GPU, which makes them nearly as fast (but not faster) as the Galaxy S GPU (Adreno 205 => expected 3x the speed of Adreno 200/N1/Desire).
Guys,
Actually i agree with mrvanx. A game running 3D needs acceleration engines for OpenGL. Here the Desire HD is not high performance GPU, but desire Z is
"High-performance GPU - up to 41M triangles/sec and 245M 3D pixels/sec and dedicated 3D/2D acceleration engines for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration"
Its pretty upset tho, prefer a touch screen 4.3" to play ps1 + android! sigh..
The Desire HD should be the quicker device, but the Desire Z is the sexier device, and is definatly the one im spending my hard earned on.
DHD will be faster than the "Z" because of 200mhz more + 256mb more for multitasking, The "Z" will be more off a battery efficient device, with a little bigger battery, smaller screen + slower processor. i'm waiting for the reviews on both devices to make a decision, can't make up my mind!!
Mafiatounes said:
DHD will be faster than the "Z" because of 200mhz more + 256mb more for multitasking, The "Z" will be more off a battery efficient device, with a little bigger battery, smaller screen + slower processor. i'm waiting for the reviews on both devices to make a decision, can't make up my mind!!
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I think the thing that really decides for people, is the screen and the keyboard... If you want a bigger screen, then you go for the desire hd. If you want the keyboard, then the desire z... If you want both, then tough luck... hehe. But, I personally am going for the z, because I need the keyboard... And, after being used to the touch pro 2, I think that I will be pleased with the z anyway hehe
just wondering which one is the best in terms of performance.!
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Snapdragon is a CPU not gpu.and it depends on model.for example aderno220 is said to be so powerful but 200is outdated
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PowerVR SGX540 > All in terms of single core phones. And I mean all.
And it's fitted in our dear Galaxy S Hummingbird chipset.
ToonXW said:
PowerVR SGX540 > All in terms of single core phones. And I mean all.
And it's fitted in our dear Galaxy S Hummingbird chipset.
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Agree.
Not snapdragon maybe you can change it to Tegra.
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Lol snapdragon and adreno are two parts of the same processor...
adreno=gpu
that like me comparing apples with oranges and grapes ...
Sorry I don't hve much knowledge about mobile processors.!
My bad...
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is it possible to know what kind of PowerVR GPUs installed on my device? SGX 530, 535 or 540? anybody knows a special app to analyze that ?
Sure it is possible. Simply search on gsmarena.com for your phone or download one of the thousand system info apps like this one.
Do you guys think the NovaThor would be good?
aR_ChRiS said:
Do you guys think the NovaThor would be good?
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I know a bit about the GPU.. it looks epic.
The cpu i'm not 100% sure of.
But i doubt they ignored that part.
Usually the gpu get ignored, so it's looking good for the NovaThor
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Sure it is possible. Simply search on gsmarena.com for your phone or download one of the thousand system info apps like .
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i got many of them, the most advanced one only shows OpenGL ver or the GPU type (powerVR , Adreno or ...) but never the details such as SGX 530, 535 ,...
on gsmarena find the phone you want to know about, find out the cpu, then google it.. for example google "msm8255 gpu" and you get hundreds of results telling you its the adreno 205..
anarchyuk said:
on gsmarena find the phone you want to know about, find out the cpu, then google it.. for example google "msm8255 gpu" and you get hundreds of results telling you its the adreno 205..
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I have a MSI Windpad 10", it runs android 2.3.1 (not rootable until now) i bought it from malaysia as a common product but after that i found out it's a discontinued series and there's no int. guarantee for it. what i finally found about that is here:
[General]
Model Name: MSI Windpad Enjoy 10
Network: None
Launched: Q2 2011
Colors Available: Black
Weight: 795 g
[Hardware]
Display Type: TFT type, 256k colors display
Display Size: 10″ inch
Display Resolution: 1024 x 768 Pixels
CPU: ARM Cortex A8, 1GHz processor
GPS: Yes (Optional)
Special Features: Accelerometer Sensor, Ambient Light sensor, Vibration min-HDMI
[Camera]
Photo: 2 MP, 1632×1224 pixels
Video Recording: Yes
Others: Secondary 2 MP Front Camera
[Media]
Audio Player: Yes, AAC, AMR-NB/WB, MP3, WMA, WAV, OGG
Video Player: Yes, File Type – 3gp, mp4/ Formats Supported – H.263, H.264 AVC, MPEG-4 SP
Radio: No
Features: Speakerphone, 3.5 mm audio jack
[Memory]
Internal Memory: 512 MB DDR3 RAM, 4 GB Storage
Memory Expandable: Yes, up to 32 GB (microSD)
[Battery]
Type: Standard battery, Li-Ion 4000mAh
Stand-by Time: Up to 200 h
Full Usage Time: Up to 4 – 5 h
[Connectivity]
GPRS/EDGE: No/No
3G: No
WLAN/Wi-Fi: Yes, 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth: Yes, v2.1 with A2DP profile
USB: Yes V2.0 (Type–miniUSB)
[Software]
Operating System: Android OS v2.3.1 (Gingerbread)
Applications/Organizers: Alarm, Calendar, Calculator, Notes, Google Maps, Latitude, Places, Adobe Flash 10.1
Java: J2ME support can be provided via third-party-application such as the J2ME MIDP Runner.
Web Browser: Yes, Wap, HTML, xHTML Rendering
Games: Yes
E-Mail: Email with Push notifications, Gmail, MS Exchange Active Sync
Hi to all!
Please write here your opinion why snap or octa better?
Not just bla-bla-bla, but real things and knowledge!!!
Thank you!
I've voted for Octa because I no need LTE and 4K video. So Octa is more interesting, modern, perspectiv. I hope it'll be less power consumption with same or better performance as Snap.
My reasons for Octa:
1. 4 powerful + 4 efficient cores which can work simultaneously -> better CPU performance and better battery life
2. More RAM available (2.72 GB vs 2.38 GB)
3. Better sound (Wolfson DAC vs Qualcomm DAC)
Pros of Snap which don't bother me:
1. LTE. We don't have LTE in Ukraine. IMHO, even with new Qualcomm QFE1100 chip LTE will drain more battery than GSM/UMTS. It just improves situation compare to other LTE solutions but GSM/UMTS operation is still superior in this regard.
2. 4K recording. Too large video files. I think 1080p 60fps is more important.
3. Supposedly better GPU performance. I don't play games.
Didn't know some countries or rather telecoms don't have LTE still. It'd be like going back 5 years, can't imagine tethering my tablet on 3G...
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slimslim said:
Didn't know some countries or rather telecoms don't have LTE still. It'd be like going back 5 years, can't imagine tethering my tablet on 3G...
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Our telecoms are bragging about LTE and we have covered 20% of the country. 5,6 towns have limited lte depends where you are and beside
that they are charging a lot for LTE. Mostly in Europe, Eastern countries doesnt have proper LTE but everyone are using Snap version still...
ussrxoden said:
My reasons for Octa:
1. 4 powerful + 4 efficient cores which can work simultaneously -> better CPU performance and better battery life
2. More RAM available (2.72 GB vs 2.38 GB)
3. Better sound (Wolfson DAC vs Qualcomm DAC)
Pros of Snap which don't bother me:
1. LTE. We don't have LTE in Ukraine. IMHO, even with new Qualcomm QFE1100 chip LTE will drain more battery than GSM/UMTS. It just improves situation compare to other LTE solutions but GSM/UMTS operation is still superior in this regard.
2. 4K recording. Too large video files. I think 1080p 60fps is more important.
3. Supposedly better GPU performance. I don't play games.
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Where did you find the info on the DAC?
Three Reasons for the Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5420:
1) Notably more memory bandwidth 14.9 GB/s vs 12.8 GB/s
2.10 GB/s more memory bandwidth. This is the maximum rate that data can be read from or stored into memory.
2) Considerably higher ram speed 1866 vs 800
1066 higher ram speed. It can support faster memory, which will give quicker system performance.
3) Supports hardware-assisted virtualization Yes vs No
it is easier to obtain better performance when using virtualization if it is hardware-assisted.
Three Reasons for the Qualcomm Snapdragon 800:
1) Shorter 10 mm vs 11 mm 1 mm shorter.
2) Explicitly narrower 10 mm vs 12 mm 2 mm narrower.
3) Reasonably faster CPU clock speed 27.78% faster CPU clock speed.
Edit: Forgot the source of this info
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designgears said:
Where did you find the info on the DAC?
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I know you asked him, but I read somewhere ( easy to google for it) that Samsung signed a long-term deal with Wolfson.
I also read that the DAC on the S800 is integrated so guess which one is getting the Wolfson?
Anyway I am not in a hurry , so I will be playing with the Phone in the showrooms quite a lot before I make any decision,,
As I said before, it's difficult, but not being in a hurry, is a good thing....
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betoNL said:
Three Reasons for the Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5420:
1) Notably more memory bandwidth 14.9 GB/s vs 12.8 GB/s
2.10 GB/s more memory bandwidth. This is the maximum rate that data can be read from or stored into memory.
2) Considerably higher ram speed 1866 vs 800
1066 higher ram speed. It can support faster memory, which will give quicker system performance.
3) Supports hardware-assisted virtualization Yes vs No
it is easier to obtain better performance when using virtualization if it is hardware-assisted.
Three Reasons for the Qualcomm Snapdragon 800:
1) Shorter 10 mm vs 11 mm 1 mm shorter.
2) Explicitly narrower 10 mm vs 12 mm 2 mm narrower.
3) Reasonably faster CPU clock speed 27.78% faster CPU clock speed.
Edit: Forgot the source of this info
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Just pointing out that both versions have the same performace, as a 1,9Ghz Octa matches (or beats) a 2.3 Ghz snapdragon.
Same happened with the S4, and now that the Note 3 can use all 8 cores we will see.
And I also believe both versions are identical in size.
I would pick the octa for two simple reasons:
4G in Qatar only started this year and has weird bands that no phone supports, except for custom made 4G keys.
I'm interested in the ability to use all 8 cores at once.
I'm also interested on what people will do to improve on that aspect with kernels, It seems a fun little ride
I would pick the S800 version if I desire down the line, but I'll start with the Octa first.
PS: I have a weird fetish love for exynos for some reason, even knowing the not so open behaviour.
betoNL said:
2) Considerably higher ram speed 1866 vs 800
1066 higher ram speed. It can support faster memory, which will give quicker system performance.
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Where would you find the info regarding that 3 GB RAM?
Edit; Got it. According to anandtech exynos 5420 supports up to 1866 MHz.
thekoRngear said:
Where would you find the info regarding that 3 GB RAM?
According to wikipedia (yeah, know it is viewed as not-so-reliable) both the MSM8974AB and Exynos 5420 have 32-bit dual-channel 933 MHz LPDDR3e (14.9 GB/sec). Even if the note version snapdragon doesn't have that AB tag it will be 800 MHz (12.8 GB/s) which is not that far behind.
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Here is the source of that comparison:
http://versus.com/en
It could be bogus .... big chance it is ....
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I NEED LTE. Since having it, I can't see myself using anything slower.
SgtGoldy said:
I NEED LTE. Since having it, I can't see myself using anything slower.
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Ditto
ussrxoden said:
My reasons for Octa:
1. 4 powerful + 4 efficient cores which can work simultaneously -> better CPU performance and better battery life
2. More RAM available (2.72 GB vs 2.38 GB)
3. Better sound (Wolfson DAC vs Qualcomm DAC)
Pros of Snap which don't bother me:
1. LTE. We don't have LTE in Ukraine. IMHO, even with new Qualcomm QFE1100 chip LTE will drain more battery than GSM/UMTS. It just improves situation compare to other LTE solutions but GSM/UMTS operation is still superior in this regard.
2. 4K recording. Too large video files. I think 1080p 60fps is more important.
3. Supposedly better GPU performance. I don't play games.
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1. I live in chicago and I'm going to need that hella fast LTE
2. The 4k recording
betoNL said:
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I know you asked him, but I read somewhere ( easy to google for it) that Samsung signed a long-term deal with Wolfson.
I also read that the DAC on the S800 is integrated so guess which one is getting the Wolfson?
Anyway I am not in a hurry , so I will be playing with the Phone in the showrooms quite a lot before I make any decision,,
As I said before, it's difficult, but not being in a hurry, is a good thing....
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Lame. Well, I am not in a hurry either, my work offered to buy me any device I wanted. I have an HTC One, tried the SGS4, G Pro, 1020 and the 5S is just to small. The only thing left was the Note 3
No choice. Only Octa will be available. And I want Octa for true 8 core mode.
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Yeah even I would go for octane...I would love to have all 8 cores working...a true octa core
Not sure yet.
Don't care much about 4k video. 4G isn't widely available in India yet but should spread in the next couple of years. Still plans will probably be expensive for a while so I can live without it for the next 2-3 years.
Probably the biggest issue for me would be battery life. The S800 seems to do well and battery life on the G2 appears to be superb. Not sure how the Octa matches up here, we will have to wait for reviews.
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Lame. Well, I am not in a hurry either, my work offered to buy me any device I wanted. I have an HTC One, tried the SGS4, G Pro, 1020 and the 5S is just to small. The only thing left was the Note 3
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However.....
There is a chance the S800 will carry the Wolfson
Just found this info:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/678952/samsung-galaxy-note-3-24-bit-192khz/30#post_9816900
How do they disable the System on chip DAC?
tattari
i really don't know , i just read it
LG's upcoming G2 phone packs in modern features including 5.2" HD IPS screen, 13 MP camera with 8x digital zoom and the ability to play lossless 24-bit/192kHz audio files. Coming with the Snapdragon 2.26GHz quad core CPU, 32GB ROM and 1920 x 1080 full HD IPS screen, the new G2 sports a variety of modern features. Now that Wolfson's latest WM5110 mobile 24-bit/192kHz DAC chip is showing up in devices, first reported in May 23 here @ Enjoy the Music.com's Industry News page, audiophiles and high fidelity enthusiasts will soon be able to travel with a single device to hear their high resolution music and answer phone calls plus other mobile computing tasks. Wolfson's M5110 is the industry's first quad core High Definition (HD) Audio Processor System-on-a-Chip (SoC). This new highly-integrated, low power HD Audio Processor with advanced DSP feature set is designed to deliver HD Audio performance of 24-bit/192kHz for smartphones, tablet computers and portable multimedia devices. The WM5110 provides 110dB signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) and a fast 600 MIPS of processing power, while only requiring 3mW DAC to headphone power consumption, making it the most powerful and efficient HD Audio Processor on the market. Other features of LG's G2 include Audio Zooming that enables users to zero in on specific audio source by zooming in on your subject while recording video. This unique feature uses three stereo mikes, which amplify sound from the specified angle and deemphasize the surrounding noise. If you want to enjoy the music, then simply plug in your headphones and go. The unit provides easy file sync simply by plugging in a USB cable and the G2 intuitively shows you the icons for features that require earphones or USB cables when you plug them in. This allows faster access to the apps you desire. The LG G2 comes with a large 3000 mAh battery for hour after hour of musical pleasure
and that's the source link
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/news/0813/
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i wouldn't call my self an audiophile , but i really do appreciate high quality music , and have a decent pair of cans that can produce good music
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OT: For Exynos version, GTS won't be shipped out-of-box. They will ship with core-migration.
GTS will be enabled later through some kernel/patch upgrades.
LTE is so overrated. Who's going to download a 1GB file on mobile data anyway. Most of the time, it'll be small packets and you won't even feel the difference in speed between LTE and HSPA+ for those.
Plus, battery blows on LTE. Even if I owned an LTE device, I'd still run it on HSPA+ because of the battery life.
Except for the S4, the Exynos is always better than the Qualcomm. On the S4, Qualcomm was better because it could run native AOSP and Exynos 4 didn't work correctly. However, the Exynos is always the preferred version and even pay premiums for it.