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first off all I should thanks all developers of hd2 andriod who are the reason that we are always excited with our Hd2.
After Refreshing xda site for every 3 hours to see the nand release I finally managed to get the news...
After installing the nand version I was so excited speed was great battery life superb and extremely stable
so I have started migrating from my ram version to nand version
Soon I was installing my apps from market until I reached an error that I've never seen before "LOW MEMORY " I was shocked I checked the space and saw I only had 1 mb free space
I searched the forum and found out that some users has 100mb while some had 600mb free after installation, I thought it might be my and other mistakes which led to 100mb but after reading more I've found all 512mb rom HD2 will have 100mb free internal memory after installation
So if its gonna be like that I think I should step back to SD version only coz of internal memory,
I wanna know your suggestions.. or solution? Ive already tried moving some apps to sd but guys.... not all of them have the ability....
hossshad said:
Hi
first off all I should thanks all developers of hd2 andriod who are the reason that we are always excited with our Hd2.
After Refreshing xda site for every 3 hours to see the nand release I finally managed to get the news...
After installing the nand version I was so excited speed was great battery life superb and extremely stable
so I have started migrating from my ram version to nand version
Soon I was installing my apps from market until I reached an error that I've never seen before "LOW MEMORY " I was shocked I checked the space and saw I only had 1 mb free space
I searched the forum and found out that some users has 100mb while some had 600mb free after installation, I thought it might be my and other mistakes which led to 100mb but after reading more I've found all 512mb rom HD2 will have 100mb free internal memory after installation
So if its gonna be like that I think I should step back to SD version only coz of internal memory,
I wanna know your suggestions.. or solution? Ive already tried moving some apps to sd but guys.... not all of them have the ability....
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well hope the Devs will get EURO HD2 owners a ext4 partition on SD that will act as internal memory... i guess its being thought about.
in the meanwhile use apps like move2sd to install apps to SD...
oh i have LEO1024 no issues here
I just flashed the NEXUSHD2 and i have 216 mb of free space,that is more than enough for me.
i have like 700mb
I think that this thread is not for boasting about your Leo1024, but it rather raises an important issue. While ROMs from NAND are a big step ahead, running out of space is a serious problem, especially today, when apps can take about 20-30 mb (i.e. Opera Mobile 10, Firefox 4 with cache).
I see three possible solutions to this problem:
- using native froyo apps2fat, while being problematic, it's simple and available out of the box
- wait for developers to allow us to use data.img on our SD Card, like in good old SD Card builds
- or use apps2ext like all other Android users do (when it'll be possible).
Just down the App 2 SD app off market and move all the apps you downloaded to sd and that should free up your internal memory
mally2 said:
well hope the Devs will get EURO HD2 owners a ext4 partition on SD that will act as internal memory... i guess its being thought about.
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Has anyone done this before?
I am getting the same problem... I hope a solution for this comes up fast.... nbot able to install any games....
I am using MDJ Gingerbread NAND Rom, and the solution I found was to move apps to SD using Titanium Backup paid app. Worth the price, trust me.
berbecverde said:
I just flashed the NEXUSHD2 and i have 216 mb of free space,that is more than enough for me.
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216 mb of free space for me to, with the exact same ROM.
this has been an issue since back in the days of the G1, not enough internal memory, this is why a lot of the newer android devices come with a bigger internal memory, apps2sd will solve the problem, so you can install apps on the sd card instead of the internal memory. You need to add it before you start to install apps to keep the internal memory at max.
I went into the system folder and deleted stuff i didnt need like ringtones, alarms, notifications, wallpapers. Left me with some amount of space but yeah, the real solution are apps that move apps to sd.
You guys are in luck. Takaaki has posted a test build he made for himself that can store the data on the sd card. You can even use your old hd2one data.img if you have used it before.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10246269&postcount=228
It's a test build and he won't be answering questions.
spyb0y said:
216 mb of free space for me to, with the exact same ROM.
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same as me....i love this rom alot
Ok I've got a stupid question but havent stumbled across the answer yet... HTC Aria, I've found plenty of info that says you can move apps over to the sd card to free up phone memory but I cant find the option to do this. I've gone through the settings menu, gone to the apps, but there is no button to 'move to sd'. Do I need to upgrade this phone to 2.2 in order to do this?
Personally I'm using the Samsung Captivate loaded with 2.2 and have no problems moving apps over to the card. Even apps that are 'apps2sd' enabled dont have the option to move on the Aria, apps that I was able to move around on my Captivate dont show the option on the htc.
Rooting and custom roms are not an issue for the user, they just keep getting 'out of memory' messages and asked me to fix the phone. The only downside to loading the official 2.2 update is the fact that all data is lost but I do have some spare time to reload everything - I just dont want to waste my time downloading and running the update if it still wont let me move apps over to the sd card. Thanks for the help
Android's built-in support for moving some applications to the SD card (apps2sd) requires Froyo (2.2), so that is why you aren't seeing the option. It is supported in the official 2.2 update for the Aria.
Those of us here don't like to recommend updating to the official 2.2 release because it makes it impossible to root your phone or install custom ROMs at a later point in time. There are a few custom ROMs available on this forum that can give you 2.2 Sense on the phone with things like sideloading and free tethering enabled, and most of the AT&T preloaded apps removed. However if you're OK with AT&T's limitations and don't have a problem not being able to use custom ROMs, then that's your prerogative.
Hey I have a question to I have cm7 and can all applications go to sd card like Widgets and all I have rc4
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Hey I have a question to I have cm7 and can all applications go to sd card like Widgets and all I have rc4
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Widgets will not work if you move them to the sd
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AriaUSer_ said:
Hey I have a question to I have cm7 and can all applications go to sd card like Widgets and all I have rc4
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not with the built in a2sd. but if you create an ext2 or ext3 partition on your sd card you can use the s2e app from the market to move apps to the sd card and still use your widgets.
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not with the built in a2sd. but if you create an ext2 or ext3 partition on your sd card you can use the s2e app from the market to move apps to the sd card and still use your widgets.
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Just to clarify (and potentially save someone some trouble), S2E only works with ext3, not ext2.
Also S2E only works with CM7, don't try it with any other ROMs!
As the title suggests on my N1 i keep running out of memory space. I use APP2SD but not all of the apps can get transfered. So what can i do to fix this problem? Some apps like Shazam i need,K-9,handcent, Flextp, but apps like Quickoffice and books i dont need but those wont delete.Any advice?
Install Titanium Backup.
Use to to either uninstall the apps you dont want (including ones built into ROM if youre rooted) AND/OR us it to force apps to the SD card.
KidTech said:
but apps like Quickoffice and books i dont need but those wont delete.
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Since they're in /system/app, you cannot delete them without rooting. And even if you can delete them, it won't help you to solve your problem. If you want many application without having space problem, you need to root, install custom rom, use Apps2SD(it will install applications to SD card Ext partition) or Data2Ext.
I'm in the same boat as well. I am consistently hovering around 21-22 mb free. With all the recent updates, it eats up all my memory.
Freaking flash is still 12 mb, google maps is 9.7 mb, music 7.7 etc. Half the google apps I don't even use such as books 4.3 mb and goggles 3.8 mb.
I have to uninstall a few programs every once in a while so I can update another...uggh I guess Google didn't see this coming when they made the n1!
I'm with you. It's annoying as crap.
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Try to see if you can find move2SD Enabler (not sure if it's on the market). It forces your apps to be able to move to SD card. It requires you to be rooted so I'm not sure if that's up your alley or not
Really rooting is your only solution. With root you can have hundreds of MB free, or even cyanogen ROM lets you move all apps giving me 120 MB free with my 89 apps installed.
RogerPodacter said:
Really rooting is your only solution. With root you can have hundreds of MB free, or even cyanogen ROM lets you move all apps giving me 120 MB free with my 89 apps installed.
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Are you using dalvik to sd too? Im using dtapps2sd and i get between 18--23mb of free space on any given day. My sd card is too slow for dalvik to sd, and anything below 20mb and i stop getting things like email notifications.
If you are rooted... and if you have a decent SD Card (I just use the one that came with mine). I would suggest putting something on it that supports Darktremor. I swear by it for sure... after setting up an sd-ext... installing Darktremor and then running cachesd... I have tons of programs on my phone and I constantly put more on and have not had any issues since. Before, I would run out of memory even with dta2sd. I started removing stuff I didn't use often then decided to finally try out cache2sd and... now... no more problems. It seems like it might be a bit slower on the startup than before (though I never tested to see if it actually is or by how much) but after that it seems to run smooth as silk for me with tons of room to spare. My sd-ext is only 512 MB but you can modify it as you like with the proper partitioning utilities.
Though... this suggestion comes with the advice that you might want to know a bit about what it is I am suggesting before you actually do it. Read into it before you try anything.
Others have lightly touched on it, but most of the google apps are installed directly to the /system partition which is separate from where your downloaded apps are installed. Really, the only way to get additional space is by rooting your phone. The easiest thing to do would be to get Titanium Backup and merge all the updates for system apps back into the ROM. Whenever a system app gets updated, the updated program chews up your available space unless you merge it back into the ROM.
There are also additional options like apps2sdext, but they get a little more advanced as it requires partitioning the sdcard.
liam.lah said:
Are you using dalvik to sd too? Im using dtapps2sd and i get between 18--23mb of free space on any given day. My sd card is too slow for dalvik to sd, and anything below 20mb and i stop getting things like email notifications.
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honestly i am lazy, so the only thing i did was use the stock cyanogen allow any app move to sd setting. and it really made a difference. i guess if i wanted to install games that are 200 mb then this wouldnt help. but this method gave like 110mb free so i was happy enough with that.
i never researched the cache2sd or darktremor's method.
also in the past i did use root explorer to move some things from system/ to data/ etc to maximize as much as possible.
There is actually a method that can force enable "Move to SD" button for all apps. Check this link for more info
http://androidforums.com/desire-tips-tricks/160560-force-apps-install-sd-without-root.html
However, please be reminded that this implementation is actually based on the Google's app2sd.
So if you move apps with Widgets to SD, they will fail to launch the next time you reboot your phone
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bassmadrigal said:
Really, the only way to get additional space is by rooting your phone. The easiest thing to do would be to get Titanium Backup and merge all the updates for system apps back into the ROM. Whenever a system app gets updated, the updated program chews up your available space unless you merge it back into the ROM.
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Finally! This works, thanks for the tip. It was soooo obvious, but I had never used Ti for this. Tap&hold and choose "Integrate update into ROM".
I just did that to Facebook, Twitter and Google Maps & got over 25 megs new space immediately.
liam.lah said:
Are you using dalvik to sd too? Im using dtapps2sd and i get between 18--23mb of free space on any given day. My sd card is too slow for dalvik to sd, and anything below 20mb and i stop getting things like email notifications.
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Any card besides pure crap is fast enough for Dalvik2SD.
And this thread is absolutely pointless. This was discussed like 100000 times. There's ONE real solution - and it's A2SD, Apps2EXT, Data2EXT, and another zillion of names for the same thing - rooting, repartitioning SD card, and moving the apps and Dalvik-cache to the EXT partition. All the other solutions are temporary, and while giving some more air to breathe, don't really solve anything for anyone that downloads enough apps.
FAQ, question 9.
Jack, I'm looking into tweaking my partition table to make use of the/cache that hardly gets used in CM.
Do you know much about it?
My biggest problem is getting solid information on the N1 partitions, since I've stumbled across conflicting info...
Any help/guidance would be appreciated!
I guess the most guidance is in the Unrevoked site, the guys who achieved S-OFF on Desire. They have a bootloader that can change the partition sizes, and there's a post on Desire forum with the explanations of booting kernel while switching the partition sizes by passing boot parameters to the kernel.
The problem with Nexus is that unlike Desire, the bootloader will still see the original partitions. So if you change the recovery and the kernel to run with different values, overriding default partitioning (which you can do - it's explained for Desire, I remember reading a thread with explanations there), the bootloader won't play the game. Boot and Recovery will have to remain in place, otherwise the phone won't boot. And if anything goes wrong and the recovery won't boot one day - you'll need to repartition the ROM from the bootloader again and install stock to get going. Lots of work.
What you can do, and what might be better/easier to do, is just to link part of your ROM there - install system apps to /cache, for example, or such. Just remember not to wipe it then
Thanks for the heads up, Jack!
Still got a lot of reading to do on this one...
I have around 168 apps and with 'round 32mbs available ...FYI I am using CyanogenMod
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I have over 200 apps with 42+ mb free... I still wanna play with my partitions... xD
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Any card besides pure crap is fast enough for Dalvik2SD.
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I did use dalvik 2sd for a while, I believe I'm using a 16gb kingston class2. While the phone was still certainly usable, there was a noticeable decrease in performance.
I'm running apps2sd on my desire HD just wondered if there's a script for Vega?
Got it working just hadnt partitioned sd
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Hi!
I have a pretty noob question.
Vega has Android OS v2.2 and therefore when you go to "Manage applications" in "Settings" you can move apps to SD card.
I know apps need to have "app2sd" feature in order for this to work (and most apps already have it). And you can't use this if app has a running background process or it's a widget.
I know that if I move an app, it isn't moved totally, it still leaves a few KB on device storage, but that doesn't really bug me.
The moved app works like a charm on Vega and isn't laggy at all.
So, why is app2sd or link2sd needed for the Vega?
I have a Samsung Galaxy S phone and since the phone has 2GB ROM space, no app2sd is needed and don't exactly know why should I need it on my tablet, I have lots of games and apps installed and still have 135MB free space on internal/device partition.
From my understanding, apps2sd is just a convenient management tool to identify those that can be moved and report on space used. It just takes you to the app screen to perform the actual move. Hence it isn't needed, but just makes life a bit easier if you are installing loads of apps - it also detects at installation time if an app can be moved and reports back.
link2sd is somewhat different and makes use of a separate partition that needs to be on the sd card which is 'android compatible' (i.e. formatted to make a linux 'ext' partition). This allows apps that can't normally be moved to be put on the sd card as it appears to be an extension of the internal memory and in the same format. There are apps that still shouldn't be moved if they need to be available at startup as the sd card takes time to come on line.
I've had my Evo 4G for almost a year now and I really havent felt the need to upgrade the ROM on it, which is surprising for me since I usually put a custom OS on my phones the day I buy them (coming from a windows mobile background) .
The only issue I have that I would like to rectify is app space. I keep getting the low disk space warning and telling me to remove apps.
I was wondering, if I root the device is there a way to push apps that do not have "move to SD" enabled over to the SD anyway? Facebook and Twitter for instance would be much better off on the SD since they build up huge data caches and need to be cleared all the time when on the phones memory.
Or, is there a way to re-size the phones memory allocations without doing a full re-flash if it's rooted?
Any thoughts/opinions are appreciated. Thanks!
You can do this stock as of froyo. You can do this through the applications setting menu or use an app that will help. I've used sdmove
If you root you could use a script created by darktremor. There's a thread on here if you search for darktremor a2sd. It frees up 3/4 of your internal memory, it works pretty well
pandamaja said:
You can do this stock as of froyo. You can do this through the applications setting menu or use an app that will help. I've used sdmove
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I tried that app a while ago and it really wasn't that big of a help. Certain apps (like Facebook and twitter) still could not be moved.
roids87 said:
If you root you could use a script created by darktremor. There's a thread on here if you search for darktremor a2sd. It frees up 3/4 of your internal memory, it works pretty well
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Thanks! I will take a look at that. It may be just what I need.
If you root you can partition your sd card and use dta2sd and it will move all your apps to the extsd even ones with widgets it works great .
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Rooting your phone with a ROM that's at least 2.2 will allow for app2sd use, however, you do not have to ROOT to use app2sd. If you do not wish to ROOT your phone, You need to run at least stock version 2.2 to be able to use app2sd.
I had a HERO that ran 2.1 and app2sd did not work, then I got my EVO with 2.2 and app2sd worked fine. Neither the HERO or EVO were rooted at the time.
Also remember that some apps must stay resident to work and can not be moved to your sd. Many of the app2sd apps will show you what can and can't be moved.
Good Luck.....