apps2sd for vega? - Vega General

I'm running apps2sd on my desire HD just wondered if there's a script for Vega?

Got it working just hadnt partitioned sd
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Hi!
I have a pretty noob question.
Vega has Android OS v2.2 and therefore when you go to "Manage applications" in "Settings" you can move apps to SD card.
I know apps need to have "app2sd" feature in order for this to work (and most apps already have it). And you can't use this if app has a running background process or it's a widget.
I know that if I move an app, it isn't moved totally, it still leaves a few KB on device storage, but that doesn't really bug me.
The moved app works like a charm on Vega and isn't laggy at all.
So, why is app2sd or link2sd needed for the Vega?
I have a Samsung Galaxy S phone and since the phone has 2GB ROM space, no app2sd is needed and don't exactly know why should I need it on my tablet, I have lots of games and apps installed and still have 135MB free space on internal/device partition.

From my understanding, apps2sd is just a convenient management tool to identify those that can be moved and report on space used. It just takes you to the app screen to perform the actual move. Hence it isn't needed, but just makes life a bit easier if you are installing loads of apps - it also detects at installation time if an app can be moved and reports back.
link2sd is somewhat different and makes use of a separate partition that needs to be on the sd card which is 'android compatible' (i.e. formatted to make a linux 'ext' partition). This allows apps that can't normally be moved to be put on the sd card as it appears to be an extension of the internal memory and in the same format. There are apps that still shouldn't be moved if they need to be available at startup as the sd card takes time to come on line.

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[INFO] Froyo Move2SD/Apps2SD version doesn't support all widgets from SD app install

Hi Guys,
I wanted to start a thread to discuss the reason behind why some app widgets work great when the app is installed to the SD whereas others don't and if there's a fix for this bug. I have a rooted Nexus One fyi.
E.g. is the Nexus One Torch Light application which works great even after a reboot.
For other apps, once I reboot, the widgets all disappear. I am using the command lines from Android Terminal to force all apps to install to the SD card. Google really should have done a better implementation of the Apps2SD.
My pet peeve is that some apps are installing 16 MB (Flash and Google Earth) on internal memory even when you force them to install on the SD card. So I am hoping there is a way to force apps with widgets on the SD card and recover some more space in the internal memory.
Rant: Google you really ****ed up a great chance to redeem yourself. You really should have given the user an option to format and install EXT for total Apps2SD implementation - especially on new phones/ after a user-initiated wipe.
So, you have the final Release for Froyo then?
Also, you do know you can go into applications and move Google Earth to SD right ?
Yes - and moving Google Earth to SD still leaves 16MB on the internal memory down from 21MB. Likewise Adobe Flash also leaves an absurd amount in the internal memory. So Move2SD is almost moot.
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Yes - and moving Google Earth to SD still leaves 16MB on the internal memory down from 21MB. Likewise Adobe Flash also leaves an absurd amount in the internal memory. So Move2SD is almost moot.
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As with most people, you are missing something here.
The APK is moved to the sd, true. The app data (in your examples they have large lib files) is not moved. Thus, with each installation /data will decrease in available size, especially for ones with large lib files - Earth, Flash, CoPilot, etc.
Also, I am pretty sure the widgets shouldn't be moved in the Froyo implementation of A2SD because of the simple fact that it is using a file stored on the Fat32 partition of the SD card which is NOT immediately initialized by the OS upon boot, it requires a FSCK (File System Check) before it mounts the SD. Thus, widgets most likely attempt to load before the APK is available to load them.
EDIT - Also, this is not development, it should be moved to General discussion.
How did u get the Final Release?
There's a reason the option to move the applications to the SD is left up to the developer.
Some things SHOULD NOT live on the sd card. (widgets for one).
Stop forcing the apps to the sd card. A good developer knows when to allow it and when not too.
You are not a developer so you shouldn't be making choices as to where the app should be installed.
(the sd card gets mounted after the home launcher is retrieved. If the app is on the sd card the home launcher doesn't find anything to load.)

[Q] HOW TO INSTALL ANDROID APPS TO MicroSD CARD, INSTEAD TO PHONE MEMORY?

OK..I've done everything, installed DFT Android ROM for HTC LEO etc...everything seems to be working fine, BUT..((
Most of the apps from Market or any other cannot be moved from Phone memory to SD card, thus consuming all phone memory very fast, and disabling me to install any more apps...and we all know that Android rules just because there are so many apps for it...
So, my question is: is there any possible way of making Android install apps to SD card, rather then phone memory? 'Cause this way, my 16Gig card isn't much of use on Android )
Please help, because there is no point in having Android on this device, if I can install only so many apps on phone memory...
Very thankful in advance....
Greeting from remote Bosnia ))
Which Rom are you using?
I am using Hyperdroid and it allows me to move apps to SD.
And they are working fine.
I'm using Desire ROM...from DFT 2.2 Froyo..
And this one also allows moving apps, but just some, not all.....
Could anyone be as kind as to point me to a ROM with Sense that allows moving all apps to SD card?
ddcww said:
I'm using Desire ROM...from DFT 2.2 Froyo..
And this one also allows moving apps, but just some, not all.....
Could anyone be as kind as to point me to a ROM with Sense that allows moving all apps to SD card?
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The best method would be to create an ext partition for your phone. ALL the apps that would normally installed on the phone will be moved onto this partition on your SDcard, saving you space. However, the trade off is speed. It will be slightly slower, but I don't think you'll even notice the speed difference day-to-day.
You can follow my guide here on how to make an ext partition without losing your data on your SDcard. It should only take like 5min to do. [HOW-TO] Make Ext4 from Recovery Without Losing FAT32 Data
well, there are some apps on the market that allows u to move all the installed apps in the internal memory to the storage card.
Try App 2SD Enabler. When you run the app, be sure to read the instructions.
If that doesnt work, Titanium Backup has a function in it that allows you to move any installed app u want from internal to storage memory (when u open the app, press Menu and then Batch. There should be an option somewhere there)
edit: keep in mind that some apps such as widgets, have to be on the internal memory to work properly. The Ext4 method is good if u want to increase the internal memory (by sacrifasing some storage memory), but you won't be able to connect your phone to the pc via Mass Storage. Plus, if it's the method with the 3 partitions(tbh i don't know if it's just for the 3partition method or any partition number), some of the storage card will be used from the OS as well, making the removal of the SD card impossible.
I would recommend App 2 SD. I use it to move all the apps it can to the SD card and it really does free up a lot of space.
Does Titanium Backup allow all apps to be moved too SD card? Just curious because Apps2SD doesnt move all apps to the SD card just some of them from my experience..
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The original DFT Desire ROM wasnt rooted correctly so use Z4Root from market then try using apps like Titanium and App2SD etc etc.
As an alternative, if you like sense but without all the bloat and lag try the rom in my signature, its a stripped down version oh DesireHD it flies like **** of stick and has all the best bits of sense
Try a different ROM
The DFT rom was also my first, but the internal memory filled up in no time and made it unusable for me.
In my experience, if you move an app to the SD card, some residual data goes onto the internal memory so you will find that you still use it up. As mentioned above, you will need to put certain apps and all widgets on the internal memory anyway.
I would go for a 'clean' rom that gives you plenty of free memory. You should then have no problem with it filling up. Titanium backup (free from market) is a good app, although Apps2SD (also free) is good as it lets you know how much space you have left.
I settled on the prj rom in my signature as it gives 180Mb free space from install and everything works as it is based on the DFT rom with minimal tweaks. There are plenty of clean roms out there, so try some out.
The best solution really for EU HD2's (512MB) is to use a rom that supports Data2SD as that actually extends your internal memory to the partition on SD card so you have say 1GB of internal memory, this is much better then any other current methods as its much more compatible with apps.
Also, dont mess about with Gpartid or other partition apps, You can use CWR to do it, just partition 1GB and then choose 0 for swap. (unless told otherwise by dev).
Thanks everyone, really...
I did this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931126
Partitioned the card during setup and now I have 1Gig, which is OK..also the ROM is really stable and fast.... Try this, I'm quite happy, it works great and it is an upgraded version of DFT Desire ROM... Cheers!!!

[Q] Xperia Play - Internal Storage...

Sorry to post such a noob question on these boards.
I found this forum to be the most active in regards to the Xperia Play so thought I'd set up home here for a while.
I have the 16GB card that came with my PLAY, and even though when I install an app/game, I use the 'move to SD card', my internal storage is very low (getting a message). It's like 20mb or something left. I have gone through all the apps and moved everything that can to SD Card.
I am new to Android (from Ios), but thought this would be ok as everything could be installed on the SD Card, but my internal storage keeps going down anyway.
So this is going to greatly limit the number of games/apps I can install even though I have plenty of SD card space?
Cheers.
Do you know how to use adb?
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Do you know how to use the search function on this forum?
AndroHero said:
Do you know how to use adb?
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No.
DeadlyDazza said:
Do you know how to use the search function on this forum?
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Yes, strange question.
Red_Kop said:
No.
Yes, strange question.
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Google adb, learn its basic functions and how to use it, then from adb shell, use the command pm SetInstallLocation 2, this will force all apps and libs to be moveable to the sd card, i have 200+ apps n games on my play and still 70mb of internal storage
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Thankyou AndroHero for you helpful reply.
Can I ask if there are any adverse effects or risks using ADB?
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Do you know how to use the search function on this forum?
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Do you know how not to be rude?
Careful about moving apps to the SD card. A lot of apps don't like it at all and will stop functioning completely. Apps that want to be on all the time, for example (Trillian, Tweetdeck, etc...) will just be killed every so often and you'll wonder why you never got that message on MSN or why you didn't get that DM from Twitter. Any app that has widgets will break the widgets completely when moved to the SD card.
It's one of those things I discovered that no one seems to talk about.
Red_Kop said:
Thankyou AndroHero for you helpful reply.
Can I ask if there are any adverse effects or risks using ADB?
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No, adb stands for android debug bridge, is basically a way for you to comunicate with your device remotely using a pc. Like another poster has mentioned, becareful what you move any app with a widget you want to use, or any app you wish to start on boot or sync need to stay on the internal storage
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zerojay said:
Careful about moving apps to the SD card. A lot of apps don't like it at all and will stop functioning completely. Apps that want to be on all the time, for example (Trillian, Tweetdeck, etc...) will just be killed every so often and you'll wonder why you never got that message on MSN or why you didn't get that DM from Twitter. Any app that has widgets will break the widgets completely when moved to the SD card.
It's one of those things I discovered that no one seems to talk about.
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I uninstalled trillian after google gave me the ip of a computer that accessed my email, i googled it and it came up as trillian.
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You probably had Google Talk enabled on Trillian.
thanks
Hi! I have a Sony Xperia Play
Phone details:
Model - R800i
Android Version - 2.3.4
Kernel Version - 2.6.32.9-perf [email protected] #1
Build - 4.0.2.A.0.42
My internal storage is very low (getting a message). I have gone through all the apps and moved everything that can to SD Card.
I have heard about Titanium Backup root, DroidSail Super App2SD, adb, Link2SD and so on.
The methods above can let me move those unmovable apps to the SD card.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of them? How do they compare? Which method is safer or more reliable? Which method can move more apps?
If you know, please let me know, thanks.
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I got this information from the official Link2SD website, this is comparing Native apps2SD to Link2SD, I don't know how Link2SD compared with Titanium Backup root, DroidSail Super App2SD, adb and so on. If you know, please let me know, thanks.
(Native apps2sd
Starting with Android 2.2 (Froyo) Google introduced native apps2SD.
This method moves
* apk file on Android 2.2
* apk + lib files on Android 2.3+
into a secure folder on your SD card in the main FAT partition.
It is the easiest method because it doesn't require you to partition your sdcard and root privilige.
It has some disadvantages though.
First disadvantage is that application files are just stored on the sdcard's main FAT partition.
When you enable USB mass storage to share files with your computer (or otherwise unmounts or removes the external storage), any application installed on the external storage and currently running is killed.
The system effectively becomes unaware of the application until mass storage is disabled and the external storage is remounted on the device.
Besides killing the application and making it unavailable to the user, this can break some types of applications in a more serious way.
So second disadvantage is that not all apps can be moved with native apps2sd method because of above reason.
In order for the application to consistently behave as expected, developer should not allow the application to be installed on the external storage if it uses any of the following features, due to the cited consequences when the external storage is unmounted:
Widgets, Services, Alarm Services, Live Wallpapers, Live Folders, Account Managers, Sync Adapters, Broadcast Receivers listening for "boot completed".
Force move (requires root);
You can force the apps move to SD card with native apps2SD even the application does not support moving as described above.
Link2SD and some other apps can force move apps if you have root priviliges. But, note that this can break some applications, as described above.
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SD Apps

Hi,
I did a quick search and couldn't find anything on the topic.
I was wondering for a while now, some applications (usually the bigger ones like Angry Birds) must be installed on NAND for it to work - given the HD2's limited onboard phone memory, I can't install very many of these at the same time - requiring me to move it to SD when I don't use it very often to save on space.
A bit of a pain really. I was just wondering if there's a fix for this issue? I'm using one of the older CyanogenMod7 builds if I recall correctly.
Cheers.
use a rom that uses app2sd+ (a2sd+ whatever, ) or data2sd, , one that uses an EXT partition on the sd card. the system will treat the EXT as internal memory and apps such as angry will work. If the EXT is already there when you install such a rom, you dont have to do anything, it will detect the EXT partition and use it, no interaction on your part needed.
Most roms are set up to use an EXT, go read your roms first post.
Right, that makes a whole lot of sense. Cheers!

[Q] Move To SDCARD...........App or data???

Hi there to all, this is my first post in this magnificent community so i hope not to post this in wrong place..........my question is related to Move to sdcard option in recents FW uptades for S4 (mine is i9500), anyone knows if this option is moving the whole selected app or just its data??? i was making some test moving a couple of apps (like games and other stuff) from internal memory to external sdcard (64gb) and it appears to move just the data, I think this way because after using this option, the memory space used in internal memory by the moved application has not been released, at least not more than a couple of MegaBytes, the same for external sdcard wich is not being loaded with full app size just a couple of MB too, however moved apps are not accesible when extSDcard is removed. So im a little confused how it works, so maybe u can help with this doubt......thanks in advance.
tongueofcolicab said:
Hi there to all, this is my first post in this magnificent community so i hope not to post this in wrong place..........my question is related to Move to sdcard option in recents FW uptades for S4 (mine is i9500), anyone knows if this option is moving the whole selected app or just its data??? i was making some test moving a couple of apps (like games and other stuff) from internal memory to external sdcard (64gb) and it appears to move just the data, I think this way because after using this option, the memory space used in internal memory by the moved application has not been released, at least not more than a couple of MegaBytes, the same for external sdcard wich is not being loaded with full app size just a couple of MB too, however moved apps are not accesible when extSDcard is removed. So im a little confused how it works, so maybe u can help with this doubt......thanks in advance.
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The option that is available in the stock firmware moves the app (not data) to the external SD. In the case of for example Real Racing this is only 9.45mb.. This of course is useless. The app FolderMount ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount) can also move the game data to your external SD which will be something like 2gb in the case of real racing! This does require Root though. FolderMount is already enough reason to root your Sgs4!
Me Gusta!
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The option that is available in the stock firmware moves the app (not data) to the external SD. In the case of for example Real Racing this is only 9.45mb.. This of course is useless. The app FolderMount ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount) can also move the game data to your external SD which will be something like 2gb in the case of real racing! This does require Root though. FolderMount is already enough reason to root your Sgs4!
Me Gusta!
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Are there also options which do not require root ? Reason is that my company blocks access to my work email account on rooted phones.
And I do not want to carry two phones around.
I tried it with contractkiller 2 but when done it want to download the obb again
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