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Hello,
I would like to ask your advice, can you recommend a good, full features and services, exchange email hosting?
I am trying the mail2web and I am using Yahoo, but this combination is not ideal. I cannot leave a copy of the email on yahoo when forwading to the mail2web. Ideally I would like one provider, with a good name, advertising free with which I can have the email also sent to the Jamin.
Your thoughts and comments are very much appreciated.
Thanks!!
Try these guys http://www.4smartphone.com/Default.aspx. They have an option to pull your email from yahoo, hotmail etc and they have a free trial. $3.99 per month after the trial.
If you have an i-mate you already get an exchange-based e-mail address for free - @clubimate.com Just sign up.
Does anyone know if I might be able to sync (via ActiveSync) with both my local desktop and a hosted Exchange provider like 4smartphone.net using the same device?
My Outlook at work is connected to Exchange 2000, so I can't get push e-mail, but I do sync my contacts, calendar and tasks. When I unplug my device, I'd like it to sync with an external hosted Exchange service which I can then use from my Outlook at home.
Is this possible?
@OP - Why do you still need to access your yahoo mail on their server? Just have it forwarded to 4smartphone for fastest delivery. You can always have them poll your Yahoo acct periodically if you really want to keep a copy there. Although, this sort of defeats the purpose of synced exchange on multiple devices. What you don't get with the free exchange servers out there is the ability to use Outlook 2003 to control your data and have it synced with multiple computers. Instead, you must always access your data on a PC with OWA (over the web), which is all right for many, but not nearly as nice. P.S. you do get a free copy of Outlook 2003 with the pro 4smartphone account. ($7/mo)
@urban - No, you can't sync the same category of PIM data to multiple sources, i.e. server and local PC. However, I believe you can sync the categories with multiple PC's, in which case you would ultimately be syncing the PC's together *via* your mobile device, although this isn't what you're looking for.
Hi Floepie,
I like to have a copy on Yahoo to download the email to my PC later and to access it on the Web when travelling, to avoid the roaming charges for GPRS use.
Anyways, trying the mail2web.com service. I signed up and for a small fee I have pop3 access to this account. It works quite well. The 4smartphone service look spretty cool as well.
Thanks for your feedback.
I haven't taken the step to spending money as of yet but I have thought about going this route for some time. Basically at this point I'm using mail2web with a rule to to ensure replies are available on my home computer.
If you went with the full hosted exchange you have everything your ae asking for. At home you could access the mail through the free copy of outlook. On the road you can access the mail via the outlook web portal.
If then you want to hold a local copy you could simply create a rule to pull the mail into a local folder. This is in fact what many people where I work do with their corporate exchange account.
Fidipaldi said:
Hi Floepie,
I like to have a copy on Yahoo to download the email to my PC later and to access it on the Web when travelling, to avoid the roaming charges for GPRS use.
Anyways, trying the mail2web.com service. I signed up and for a small fee I have pop3 access to this account. It works quite well. The 4smartphone service look spretty cool as well.
Thanks for your feedback.
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Does anyone know the name of any server software that works the same as MS Exchange.
I don't need Push email, all I NEED is the contact, calendar sync. email is optional but preferable. Sort of like ZYB but with email.
I don't mind if it runs or windows or linux as long as it just works.
edit: sorry, just realized this was posted in the wrong forum.
try mail2web.com that is essentially FREE exchange server online, will do all, including mail aggrigation, ie it'll collect mail from other email accounts aswell.
I signed up for that but the support over there told me there was no way to upload/import my contacts to my address book on their server. My contacts wouldn't sync automatically either so I closed my account over there.
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I signed up for that but the support over there told me there was no way to upload/import my contacts to my address book on their server. My contacts wouldn't sync automatically either so I closed my account over there.
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You do have all your contact currently on your PDA isnt it? therefore by the first sync all your contact should be copied to server. sorry If I dont understand your problem.
no you're right bulldog, you understood my problem.
The contacts didn't sync though and when I spoke to support they made it seem like the contacts aren't supposed to sync.
What am I doing wrong??
Ok, found a way to upload the contacts but theres a 100 contacts limit and I've got more than 100.
So solution still pending...
i have a question about mail2web.com:
i have my account and i managed to enable an email filter from to provider acror to mail2web. also i let outlook2k7 to leave the messages on the pop3 server. so i could download all my mails onto my pc and onto my mail2web account.
i added the exchange server to my activesync on my htc prophet and it synced over air very fine. i get new mails onto my pc and onto my mail2web account.
but sadly it looks like this exchange server doesn't support html mails
i just get only normal text mail over the exchange server. did i something wrong, or does their exchange servers not support this WM6 feature?
to sort of solve my own problem.. Kerio Mailserver does everything exchange does.. just requires a small proggie installed with outlook
rashed2020 said:
to sort of solve my own problem.. Kerio Mailserver does everything exchange does.. just requires a small proggie installed with outlook
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and your PC to be on all the time!
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Ok, found a way to upload the contacts but theres a 100 contacts limit and I've got more than 100.
So solution still pending...
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I never had any problems syncing my 400+ contacts !!!
LordDeath said:
i have a question about mail2web.com:
i have my account and i managed to enable an email filter from to provider acror to mail2web. also i let outlook2k7 to leave the messages on the pop3 server. so i could download all my mails onto my pc and onto my mail2web account.
i added the exchange server to my activesync on my htc prophet and it synced over air very fine. i get new mails onto my pc and onto my mail2web account.
but sadly it looks like this exchange server doesn't support html mails
i just get only normal text mail over the exchange server. did i something wrong, or does their exchange servers not support this WM6 feature?
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mail2web servers dont support PUSH HTML....just text... and kiero doesnt support HTML either...
Carnivore:
That's not a problem since its always on as it is! Plus, thinking of getting a VPS so thatll make life easier.
Shaile:
Are you using the free or paid version? I was experimenting with the free one and I couldn't seem to upload more than 100.
Walsh:
Don't really need HTML, nor do I want it. So kerio not supporting HTML is a feature if you look at it from my side =P
Mail2Web configure PDA
I read an article today about Mail2Web and wanted to try it before I recommend it for any of our users. The article said there was a configuration file/program - have anyone of you seen this file - or know how I configure a PDA towards Mail2Web ?
I haven't personally tried it yet...
http://www.funambol.com/opensource/
"Funambol is open source mobile application server software that provides push email, address book and calendar (PIM) data synchronization, application provisioning, and device management for wireless devices and PCs, leveraging standard protocols. For users, this means BlackBerry-like capabilities on commodity handsets."
I am using Kerio MailServer and it works great. No problems so far!!!
- TKN
Funambol isnt really compliant with any of the syncing standards.. Kerio looks like the best option so far as it works with activesync
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I haven't personally tried it yet...
http://www.funambol.com/opensource/
"Funambol is open source mobile application server software that provides push email, address book and calendar (PIM) data synchronization, application provisioning, and device management for wireless devices and PCs, leveraging standard protocols. For users, this means BlackBerry-like capabilities on commodity handsets."
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Thanks dude this one is cool but this one is also not free service. even mail2web has closed free service. I am planning to host Funambol to serve free sync service.
Anyone interested?
Also you can use microsoft myphone service to sync contacts.
www.myphone.microsoft.com
But if you dont want to save contacts online the I guess PIM Backup s/w you can also schedule to take backup. And this even can take backup of mails, message.
Try Google sync
Try Google sync
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/sync.html#p=default
nuevasync is the way to go
free service does calendar and contacts from google, premiums ($25/yr) does push email.
uses activesync/exchange
Hi everyone. I am sure I am not the first person to wonder about this. Microsoft’s “push” email technology that works with Exchange Server is entirely HTTP based. Obviously Microsoft wants this to work with only their server platform but couldn’t it be possible to use this with Gmail?
I can’t honestly see if being that difficult for the folks at Google to reverse engineer the exact format of the HTTP posts going back and forth between an Exchange server and a WM device. On top of this Gmail has Contacts and Calendar as well. If I could sync my WM device with Gmail I wouldn’t need Exchange anymore. I could even use Google Apps to get my email at my own domain name.
I tried setting up mail.google.com and also www.gmail.com as ‘exchange’ servers on my HTC Touch but it didn’t work :-(
The Fish.
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Hi everyone. I am sure I am not the first person to wonder about this. Microsoft’s “push” email technology that works with Exchange Server is entirely HTTP based. Obviously Microsoft wants this to work with only their server platform but couldn’t it be possible to use this with Gmail?
I can’t honestly see if being that difficult for the folks at Google to reverse engineer the exact format of the HTTP posts going back and forth between an Exchange server and a WM device. On top of this Gmail has Contacts and Calendar as well. If I could sync my WM device with Gmail I wouldn’t need Exchange anymore. I could even use Google Apps to get my email at my own domain name.
I tried setting up mail.google.com and also www.gmail.com as ‘exchange’ servers on my HTC Touch but it didn’t work :-(
The Fish.
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Option 1. forward your gmail account to mail2web or one of the other free services which is a free hosted exchange account (more or less).
Option 2. Set up your gmail for I-map and "idle" it. I know it can be done using flex mail, but not sure about idle in Pocket Outlook.
Option 3. Set up your device to check for mail every X minutes. You already new that one though.
Option 4. Set up to forward your mail to your device. IE: on cingular, it used to be you could forward it to "[email protected]" That one, you would need to check with your service provider.
hth
Hi ssschmidt,
I know there are ways I could forward my Gmail to another email service that is an Exchange Server and so does support Microsoft-style push email BUT I am wondering why Google doesn’t implement this themselves.
There are a tone of Windows Mobile devices out there AND Google is already offering Gmail at your own domain name with “Google Apps” service. If all of a sudden I could get true push Gmail with my own domain name (part of Google Apps) I think a lot of people might reconsider that upgrade to Exchange 2007.
Figuring out the exact format of the HTTP conversation between the WM device and the Exchange server couldn’t be that hard. Heck, I think I might be able to take a crack at it myself
In case anyone is wondering what happens is this. The WM device makes an HTTP request to the Exchange server and says “notify me if anything changes in these folders within the next X minutes”. The Exchange server the starts monitoring the folders in question for the specified period of time. If the folder “changes” (a message arrives, a contact is updated, an appointment re-scheduled) Exchange sends the changed items back as part of the HTTP response (the connection is left open and ‘hanging’ for the specified period of time). If nothing happens and the time period lapses the Exchange server sends an empty response and the HTTP connection is closed. The WM device then resumes the process over again by making another request. This it why it is called “client initiated ‘push’” because in reality the WM device is continually asking for changes. The constant back & forth acts as a kind of heartbeat so both ends of the connection (the WM device and the Exchange Server) know the other is still there (in case the WM device is out of service, turned off or otherwise off the grid).
I can see no reason why this HTTP conversation can’t be implemented (along with the correct URL’s) on a non-Exchange server such as Gmail. If Google decided to offer this I think it might be an Exchange killer. Currently I am thinking of ways I can get my own Exchange server. I have several customers with Exchange and a few of the might be willing to host my email for me. Currently I am using Google Apps which I absolutely LOVE but I would also love to be able to sync my plethora of contacts.
Maybe someone in Google reads these forums
The Fish
I'm sure Google will implement this with Android
berardi said:
I'm sure Google will implement this with Android
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I am sure your probably right. But if Google is interested in taking business away from Exchange (which I think they are judging by the Google Apps sign-up page) then it would make sense to provide this service to the thousands (if not millions) of WM users out there worldwide.
The Fish.
Gmail via Activesync
thefish123 said:
Hi everyone. I am sure I am not the first person to wonder about this. Microsoft’s “push” email technology that works with Exchange Server is entirely HTTP based. Obviously Microsoft wants this to work with only their server platform but couldn’t it be possible to use this with Gmail?
I can’t honestly see if being that difficult for the folks at Google to reverse engineer the exact format of the HTTP posts going back and forth between an Exchange server and a WM device. On top of this Gmail has Contacts and Calendar as well. If I could sync my WM device with Gmail I wouldn’t need Exchange anymore. I could even use Google Apps to get my email at my own domain name.
I tried setting up mail.google.com and also www.gmail.com as ‘exchange’ servers on my HTC Touch but it didn’t work :-(
The Fish.
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From the posts in this thread, looks like nobody mentioned having tried MobiPush. Mobipush allows you to have your Gmail, Yahoo, or other IMAP or POP account email pushed to your WM 5/6 device using the device's Direct-Push Technology. I am currently using the service with my Gmail account and it works well. Sign up is free. You must setup your Gmail options to allow IMAP or POP access, then follow the instructions on MobiPush's site to setup your device. I also forgot to mention that it seems that only mail is sync'ed at this time (no contacts or calendar, or tasks.)
Here's the link:
www.mobipush.com
Windows Live Hotmail provides Direct Push
Another option is to register for a live hotmail account (mail.live.com) and forward your gmail to this account. You can configure your Touch for push email from live hotmail by following the instructions here: http://blogs.msdn.com/mayurk/archiv...dows-live-hotmail-and-windows-mobile-6-0.aspx
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Another option is to register for a live hotmail account (mail.live.com) and forward your gmail to this account. You can configure your Touch for push email from live hotmail by following the instructions here: http://blogs.msdn.com/mayurk/archiv...dows-live-hotmail-and-windows-mobile-6-0.aspx
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However when you do this your reply comes from your Live/Hotmail account. Do you know if you can do this and have your reply come from your gmail account?
Thanks!
Apparently there are other companies/groups that have independently developed products that are compatible with Microsoft’s “DirectPush” technology. So the good news is we know it can be and has been done.
Check out this product http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerio_MailServer
Hopefully Google will develop something that will allow Gmail to masquerade as an Exchange server to a Windows Mobile device. Imagine having push email as well as contact and calendar synchronization with Gmail?? on your WM device? All without any third-party connectors/forwarding/etc.
The Fish.
PS: thanks to everyone for all the suggestions...
www.nuevasync.com for contacts and calendar sync - imap sync is coming - but it's been "coming" for a long time so we can only hope...
try http://www.funambol.com
It will sync calendar, email and contacts.
gottago said:
try http://www.funambol.com
It will sync calendar, email and contacts.
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i am currently using funambol with scheduleworld for my google calendar - are you using funambol by itself for your calendar?
thanks
nuevasync is great for syncing google contacts and calendar. No downloads everything works through activesync. Their blog says gmail is coming so for now I just use IMAP for gmail.
I simply use www.mobipush.com services, works great for emails.
thefish123 said:
Hi everyone. I am sure I am not the first person to wonder about this. Microsoft’s “push” email technology that works with Exchange Server is entirely HTTP based. Obviously Microsoft wants this to work with only their server platform but couldn’t it be possible to use this with Gmail?
I can’t honestly see if being that difficult for the folks at Google to reverse engineer the exact format of the HTTP posts going back and forth between an Exchange server and a WM device. On top of this Gmail has Contacts and Calendar as well. If I could sync my WM device with Gmail I wouldn’t need Exchange anymore. I could even use Google Apps to get my email at my own domain name.
I tried setting up mail.google.com and also www.gmail.com as ‘exchange’ servers on my HTC Touch but it didn’t work :-(
The Fish.
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First of all, you don't need MS Push because Google does have a mail push mechanism in place. It is called IMAP Idle. You can read it from here: http://www.isode.com/whitepapers/imap-idle.html. So all you need to do is setting up your IMAP IDLE compatible client to sync with gmail via IMAP instead of POP.
Now, you may also like to forward you mail to mail2web and take advantage of the push mail plus push calendar, contact and task. But you can also use OggSync and keep everything in Google.
berardi said:
I'm sure Google will implement this with Android
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Well, they already have the solution.
agentmikeyd said:
i am currently using funambol with scheduleworld for my google calendar - are you using funambol by itself for your calendar?
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Actually I am only using/testing funambol on my gmail. I don't use a calendar as of yet, too little time to test on funambol. I do know that contacts synch via funambol does work. I guess you are calling me to task;-)
I know there are various ways using combinations of third party software and/or services and so forth of syncing email one way, calendar another, etc, etc. But imagine being able to sync EVERYTHING in Google Apps with their counterparts on your Windows Mobile device using the NATIVE built-in synchronization mechanism of that device.
If Google is serious about killing Exchange in the SMB market place they will implement this.
Currently I still sync my Vogue with my Exchange server even though I also use Google Apps.
The Fish
there is always this
http://www.codeplex.com/ImapPusherService
works well for me
Did I call it or what?!?!
OK, little brag moment there but!!! Have a look at this screen shot. I am not 100% sure when Google added this but this is EXACTLY what I was hoping for just over a year ago! Did I call it or what? I can't imagine Gmail/Google Apps being any cooler
The Fish
I may be a little behind but found Mobipush.com and liked it but wanted to see what everyone else was using. you set up 5 email addresses and it pushes to your outlook folder (it wont save sent emails on the ppc though, wierd). How does everyone else use email? push email? I have an aol, yahoo and a work email address (wish i used my gmail more).
for mobipush, can you reply to from the original email addresses?
most people use a free exchange account with mail2web.
There's many other "free" push solutions, but most of them require additional software (which no one likes doing). Haven't heard of mobipush.
sorry to sound dumb...free exchange account? that means its their email address or i can still use mine? The MobiPush account i use my email account
push account
It requires software, but emoze is free and nice.
i tried them all, and the best one i think is mail2web. i foward all my mail to my mail2web account. I pay 5 dollars a month to have all the sent mail with my main email address. it links to the server so all my contacts and calendar and email are synced. Which is great so when I flash my phone (which I do often) i get all my emails and contacts through syncing back to my mail2web account.
if anyone has a better setup please let us know
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i tried them all, and the best one i think is mail2web. i foward all my mail to my mail2web account. I pay 5 dollars a month to have all the sent mail with my main email address. it links to the server so all my contacts and calendar and email are synced. Which is great so when I flash my phone (which I do often) i get all my emails and contacts through syncing back to my mail2web account.
if anyone has a better setup please let us know
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How about a solution that keeps $5 a month, back into your pocket!
Guys nothings better than this:
http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php
You'll agree after you set it up....Plus it doesn't use ActiveSync so your saving your battery too, it pushes in the same manner Windows Live mobile does.
Does seven use SMS method of push?
--how well does it work with AOL accounts?
trim81 said:
Does seven use SMS method of push?
--how well does it work with AOL accounts?
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Seven does have one that does but what I posted is Email Push only and it'll notify similar to Windows Live Mobile Hotmail.
As for AOL, try it, its listed in the app.... Nothing is better than hands on right?
I use it for my GMail & Yahoo! accounts...
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Yes you can
So my sister has the 6700 and set up the "outlook" email to have push email with gmail. I went to set it up and it asks for the email address....then the username/password and the Domain (any ideas on what that means?), then next and it searches, and asks for the server address (any ideas here?). She said she set her's up with the pop3 address outgoing/ingoing...it never asks for that...
Ive used mail2web and I hate not being able to repsond with my gmail account unless i pay $5 a month. WHat i do now, is setup gmail to forward all my email to [email protected]. This setp is perfect for me; it basically becomes a notifier for you to check your gmail (so of course i have setup to check email manually). Works great and saves batteries as you can read alot of emails right off the text message
Do mobipush support HMTL Email ? Seven does but can't download attachments for some reason.
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Do mobipush support HMTL Email ? Seven does but can't download attachments for some reason.
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I am almost sure that it does. I just dont use it b/c yahoo wont let me without paying i think
Try this one. You have to download their software but it doeesn't put much of hit on your phone. http://www.funambol.com/
I installed my own exchange server cuz mail2web wasn't workin' for me as I have my own custom domain... They make you pay if you want to change your reply-to address.
Windows Server 2008 + Exchange 2007 is VERY slick if u can run into the licenses... I do feel a lil geeky installing enterprise software for 1 mailbox tho? lol. The web mail is awesome too lol. and not to mention using regular outlook... having everything linked together is sweeeeeet... open outlook on laptop ... add a contact or make a change and seconds later look at my pda and it's already sync'd... slick!
I really could NOT be happier having exchange sync on my device... it makes ALL the difference in email and contact sync... I lost my contacts so many times from hard resets and syncs between computers messing up... exchange is DEF the way to go for the all-around best experience.
Dont forget Windows Live push Email
Windows Live mobile services does free push email on Hotmail, MSN, Live, and OfficeLive email for free... even on free accounts.
Or forward you existing mail to a free Hotmail, MSN, Live, and OfficeLive email account.
I made a quick video on how to do it here.. no hacking necessary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5EmS0A4Am4
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I installed my own exchange server cuz mail2web wasn't workin' for me as I have my own custom domain... They make you pay if you want to change your reply-to address.
Windows Server 2008 + Exchange 2007 is VERY slick if u can run into the licenses... I do feel a lil geeky installing enterprise software for 1 mailbox tho? lol. The web mail is awesome too lol. and not to mention using regular outlook... having everything linked together is sweeeeeet... open outlook on laptop ... add a contact or make a change and seconds later look at my pda and it's already sync'd... slick!
I really could NOT be happier having exchange sync on my device... it makes ALL the difference in email and contact sync... I lost my contacts so many times from hard resets and syncs between computers messing up... exchange is DEF the way to go for the all-around best experience.
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How do you set up your own exchange server? now that would be awesome.
The service i mentioned above syncs calander, mail, tasks, contacts. I have it sync on my work desktop, my phone, my laptop, and my home compter. Best of all its FREE http://www.funambol.com/
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How do you set up your own exchange server? now that would be awesome.
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No simple task... you need Windows Server (2003 or 2008) with lots of roles installed before you can install Exchange. And I wanted to go with the new Exchange 2007 which requires a x64 operating system as well.
Exchange isn't really meant for personal use.. it's a business/enterprise server installation... I just didn't wanna pay the $5-10/month for exchange hosting from someone else so I setup my own... Microsoft really needs to release some kind of a "personal" exchange server or something because it really stinks all these windows mobile peeps can't have exchange functionality without paying for a service
Hi. Can anyone tell me please whether the Hero will have real-time 'push' email and whether it will be compatible with Outlook?
Many thanks.
it depends on which style you get I believe the sim free HTC branded ones will include exchange syncing software as standard. The "with google" branded ones dont, however there is software on the market which can do this for you anyway.
Well, I have a sim-free Hero on order, here in the UK.
I don't have a server, though - just Outlook on a single PC - would that be fine? Also - is it instant, or every 30 mins or so, like my current Nokia E71?
Thanks!
Just tested Hero ROM on my brothers G1. You can use Activesync ( sync with your local outlook via usb ) or POP email
Thank you, Sinas. And the Pop email is 'instant push'? My Nokia E71 will only check every 30 mins...
Thank you, Sinas. And the Pop email is 'instant push'? My Nokia E71 will only check every 30 mins...
Also, surely 'Activesync' is a windows programme - do you mean HTC Sync?
Thanks again...
Stuff review.
Okay, so the Stuff review seems to answer the questions.
Firstly; Some of these are basic (clocks, calendars), but many are ‘live’, pulling information through from the web to update automatically. The Nokia N97 offers similar widgets on its homescreen, but the Hero’s, most notably the excellent Twitter app, are by far the slickest and most useful we’ve used. so I am assuming that the Facebook widget is 'live'. Can anyone confirm?
More worryingly, we have this; Unlike the Magic, the Hero has native support for Microsoft Exchange, so setting up work e-mails is easy. It doesn't sync with Outlook, though there is a roundabout way of sending your contacts to Gmail, then get getting them to sync with the phone. which doesn't sound so promising. How can any new phone not sync with Outlook? Can this be true?
The full review is here; http://stuff.tv/Review/HTC-Hero-review/
Any thoughts (please?)
The facebook integration in the people application is nto real time, it is a set schedule updateof 2,4,8,12 or 24 hours.
The twitter app can be set to check every 5 minutes.
Yes, it does come with HTC Sync, but don't bother. It's just as bloody awful on the hero as it is on the HTC branded magics. Steer clear of that ****e and stick to the google or Exchange OTA Sync, both of which are push.
as for not synching with outlook (which it does but only just) the android OS is designed to sync with google over the air. that is one of it's main reasons for existing. and god knows at least it works as long as you are not on an apps domain....!
So, I guess you are saying that...
...if I want push email, because I have a pop3 account, rather than an Exchange one, I will need to somehow use gmail to push my mail to the phone?
*Sigh*
And EVERYTHING I have - contacts and calendar - is on Outlook, which you say doesn't properly sync with the Hero. Maybe I have ordered the wrong phone?
Thanks for your time...
yes you will. POP does not support push mail without some sort of third party intermediary such as Gmail, Exchange or BIS servers (blackberry).
Quite possibly you have.
Although, contacts can be copied across very simply into gmail, by exporting to a csv file and then importing that into gmail which takes about 2 minutes. and as for the calendar, google do calendar sync which syncs your outlook calendar to the gmail calendar as well.
however, from what you say, and what you want in a native outlook sync support, you'd be better off with a winmo device, and a third party hosted exchange for your pop, such as 4smartphone, or some of the guys that do it on here for a small price... that way you have the natice sync support, and also then you have your push mail.
Thank you for your help.
I guess a workaround might be for me to pay for a third-party application which will push my email to the device...
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I guess a workaround might be for me to pay for a third-party application which will push my email to the device...
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You might try looking into funambol. It connects most things, to most other things.
http://my.funambol.com/
is a free intermediary online funambol server application which might do exactly what you want.
I'm trying to find out from Orange whether the HTC Hero will synchronise with exchange.
Quite frustrating that there is no clear information available.
Rob
Thanks, Trentend - I'll take a look. Also Emoze has been suggested.
Anyone tried Emoze?
I have just spoken to someone at Devicewire who seems to know the phone well and has used it a lot - he tells me the phone 'definitely syncs perfectly with Outlook'. Which is nice...
For any kind of PUSH email support, you need a server-backend that can work it.
Meaning: An IMAP mail account (with IDLE support enabled) (like Gmail),
an Exchange account (used a lot in enterprises and such),
or something similar from Blackberry (BIS I believe).
A regular POP account is just that: Too simple to support any kind of push.
Create a gmail account, set your POP account to forward the mail directly to that gmail account, and set that gmail account up for push mail.
I believe gmail even supports multiple identities, so you can use gmail to send mail in such a way that it looks to come from your original POP account.
As for the Outlook sync: I'm curious just as you. Had WinMo and Symbian phones the last xx years, and I'm now waiting for my Hero to be shipped. My first Android experience, so I'll have to see.
Thing is, I don't value 'Outlook' at all. I use three different computers during each and even day, so all my mail is done webbased (and using a central storage). My 'primary' contact list _IS_ my phone. I don't sync it, I make backups.
So I think I will have to import my current contact list into my gmail-contacts, clean it all up and then connect my Android phone to it. But once you've done that, you're set .
dipje said:
For any kind of PUSH email support, you need a server-backend that can work it.
Meaning: An IMAP mail account (with IDLE support enabled) (like Gmail),
an Exchange account (used a lot in enterprises and such),
or something similar from Blackberry (BIS I believe).
A regular POP account is just that: Too simple to support any kind of push.
Create a gmail account, set your POP account to forward the mail directly to that gmail account, and set that gmail account up for push mail.
I believe gmail even supports multiple identities, so you can use gmail to send mail in such a way that it looks to come from your original POP account.
As for the Outlook sync: I'm curious just as you. Had WinMo and Symbian phones the last xx years, and I'm now waiting for my Hero to be shipped. My first Android experience, so I'll have to see.
Thing is, I don't value 'Outlook' at all. I use three different computers during each and even day, so all my mail is done webbased (and using a central storage). My 'primary' contact list _IS_ my phone. I don't sync it, I make backups.
So I think I will have to import my current contact list into my gmail-contacts, clean it all up and then connect my Android phone to it. But once you've done that, you're set .
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Thank you for this! I guess I'll have to try and do that gmail forwarding thing as the multiple identity thing is vital -if I reply from my phone, it needs to look as if it has come from my office. I'm sure there's an idiot's guide out there somewhere...
bigbamboo5 said:
Thank you for this! I guess I'll have to try and do that gmail forwarding thing as the multiple identity thing is vital -if I reply from my phone, it needs to look as if it has come from my office. I'm sure there's an idiot's guide out there somewhere...
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I just had a look. I can go to my gmail settings, and there is a tab 'accounts'.
In there the first section is to 'add another email address you own'. You will have to enter your current POP email address, and it will send a verification of some sort to verify the address is yours.
After that you can make that email address as 'default', and set the option to always make mail seem to come from that address, even if the mail you are replying to was sent directly to your gmail account.
I reccon that if you set an email address as 'default' there, you phone (and other) applications will also use it.
Then the only thing to do is set your current POP account to forward mail directly to your gmail account. (Not MOVE mail, but forward / copy it).
Then you have a gmail account 'invisible' to the outside world. Setting up an android phone with a gmail account should be no problem
Oooh!
Ta much!
Hero will sync with Exchange out of the Box
Magic and G1 need an extra App
cboyd said:
Hero will sync with Exchange out of the Box
Magic and G1 need an extra App
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Exchange, yes - but what about Outlook?