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XDA IIi Tomtom 5 Bluetooth Issue

Hi -
I have an XDA IIi and recently upgraded to TOMTOM 5.
So far - I have two issues.
1. Some POI's crash and cause the program to exit. Looking through this very informative forum I have found a patch for this. I am yet to see if it fixes it but fingers crossed!
2. When TOMTOM exits (via the menu) the bluetooth disables on the phone. I have looked around and can not see any fixes or details on this. Any ideas?
Any help would be much appreciated.

plyford said:
Hi -
I have an XDA IIi and recently upgraded to TOMTOM 5.
So far - I have two issues.
1. Some POI's crash and cause the program to exit. Looking through this very informative forum I have found a patch for this. I am yet to see if it fixes it but fingers crossed!
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It does
2. When TOMTOM exits (via the menu) the bluetooth disables on the phone. I have looked around and can not see any fixes or details on this. Any ideas?
Any help would be much appreciated.
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There is no fix for this AFAIK, even the newly released 5.1 patch doesn't fix it (again AFAIK)

TT5 issues...
Try loading the TT5.1 patch, it may work.
The TT pages don't mention the software keybard fix for those PDAs with a hard keyboard, but it does fix it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=137719#137719

Hi Guys,
Thanks for coming back to me. I have installed the patch and yes the POI's now can be viewed without exiting..
I can live with the bluetooth closing on exit....however, I seem to have 2 different issues.
1. It now crashes occaionally when driving about.
2. The enabled POI's change on each load. i.e it does not remember the previous enabled POI.. just seems to add Argos in e.t.c. each time!
anybody else had these problems?
Thanks again

Try telling it not to show POIs at all. It has made the world of difference to the speed and frequency of crashing (ie it hasn't [yet]). If you use speed camera POIs, make sure they are set to warn you, and they still will. They just own't be vissible on the map.

plyford said:
Hi Guys,
Thanks for coming back to me. I have installed the patch and yes the POI's now can be viewed without exiting..
I can live with the bluetooth closing on exit....however, I seem to have 2 different issues.
1. It now crashes occaionally when driving about.
2. The enabled POI's change on each load. i.e it does not remember the previous enabled POI.. just seems to add Argos in e.t.c. each time!
anybody else had these problems?
Thanks again
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I've not had it crash on me ever, as for not remembering your settings, make sure that tomtom and all of it's directories (maps etc) are not read only

I managed to solve tomtom from crashing and also from disconnecting bt on exit. (5.1 fixes this!)
However, the phone is just a general pain in the butt! becuase I have a bluetooth car kit aswell as bluetooth gps.. the phone can not do it all at once! aswell as tomtom. it may run it for a bit.. but make a call or receive a call and it all just ends up in a reset.
I decided to go back to the good old pda and seperate phone! anyone wanting an XDA IIi can find mine on ebay!!
a lesson learned i feel!
Thanks for all your help!

GPS quick fix, possible?

Hi,
this has been discussed before and in different places, but nobody came up with a valid solution:
Is there a quick GPS program that works for Trinity? Is there one in the new p3600i that works with P3600? What about the Kaiser one, did anyone get it to work properly on the Trinity, if yes, does it actually work? There's the Qgps, apparently from HP wich has the same qualcomm chip - it doesn't seem to work.
So, the objective of this post is to summarize anything that works. Please do not post anything about other GPS quick fix from other vendors or Sirf fixes, we already know they don't work.
thanks!

Nope.
there is a gps sat location updater piece of software but it doesn't seem to do anything on Trinity in UK.

djfuego said:
there is a gps sat location updater piece of software but it doesn't seem to do anything on Trinity in UK.
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which one is it?
thanks!
P.S. QGPS appears to help a little bit, but it's difficult to tell

This may be a solution, but it requires a data connection
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336599

Radashka said:
This may be a solution, but it requires a data connection
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336599
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Yet another placebo - as the final remark in the thread underlines....

TomTom 7 Takes ages to start! Mother of creation!

I have TT7 working fine on my Orange SPV M2000 running on the explode 6.11 rom.
However, I do have a problem.
TT7 takes around 5 minuets to start for the first time.
Strangely when TT7 has been turned off and the BA left on, starting TT7 the next time only takes 8 to 12 seconds.
TT7 runs from the device and the 715 map on SD.
I also have a problem with WiFi and phone, both can be very difficult to start.
Anyone else have these problems and can someone suggest a remedy.

120+ views and no reply, I guess I must have a unique problem. Tough titty.

Nope - I just read to know what is this about - I don't use BA for navigation any more nor see anything special in new version of TT7. I would just wait for another release - so far all of those releases are not official nor final.

Nothing special in the new TT7? OK then just to clarify and for what it's worth... We have been waiting ages for an official TT7 upgrade that just ain't coming. And just like the folk on this forum who crave the latest mobile rom upgrades, 7 is better than 6 because it can use the latest up-to-date (v7) maps
Also, it's infinitely better to have PPC/PDA because they are mini computers and a phone. PNA are limited to map reading and mp3.

I've been using BlueAngel for navigation for 2 years and I dumped the idea (and switched to PNA) because of constant problems with GPS-Bluetooth-BA. Now I just turn on the PNA and have the navigation ready nearly immediately and it always works. And beacause it's based on Windows CE 5.0, I can use any navigation system I want, apart from... TomTom, as this piece of **** does not support 480x272 screens, as the ONLY navigation software for Windows CE. So far no info about wide screens and TT7 - maybe indeed it's a bit better? Anyway for me much more effective is local navigation software, mostly because of better maps for Poland and quite interesting 3D interface (TT looks boring and outdated compared to Automapa).

I totally understand your view point but choosing the right satnav is really all about up-to-date maps and user friendliness.
TT7 is much easier and quicker to use in comparison to the competition.
I am still searching for the answer to why TT7 takes so long to start on my BA.

amzazine said:
I totally understand your view point but for me in the UK, TT7 is much easier and quicker to use in comparison to the competition.
Have you tried using Automapa on your BA?
I am still searching for the answer to why TT7 takes so long to start on my BA.
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I'm thinking it might be an issue with WM6.1 and above. I use TT6 and before I upgraded from WM6 to WM6.1, it was working like a charm. Now, it takes a few minutes to start up (and sometimes it even crashes)

I think you could be right. I use TT7 frequently and it might be worth reverting to mobile 6. Anyone know if you can safely revert from 6.11 to 6?

amzazine said:
I think you could be right. I use TT7 frequently and it might be worth reverting to mobile 6. Anyone know if you can safely revert from 6.11 to 6?
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It should be ok. You only need to flash the phone with the older rom and that's it. If you do it, please write some feedback in here since I am interested in finding out whether or not my theory was right.

...Charming!

when my phone is switcht off
tt7 is also starting very slow
with phone > normal
the same problem with mortplayer and thumbcal

I only have this problem since installing the 6.11 rom.
What rom is your BA running?
yrsmart said:
when my phone is switcht off
tt7 is also starting very slow
with phone > normal
the same problem with mortplayer and thumbcal
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amzazine said:
I only have this problem since installing the 6.11 rom.
What rom is your BA running?
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6.11, but its no problem for me, just for the batterie

Hi Guys.
How do you got TT7 instaled in Blue Angel? I tryed and got a popup message saying my device was not compatible. what's the trick?
Thanks

dcoelho said:
Hi Guys.
How do you got TT7 instaled in Blue Angel? I tryed and got a popup message saying my device was not compatible. what's the trick?
Thanks
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I have the information you need, but I am not sure if this site allows links for the cracked TT7 download.

TomTom is slow
Have you looked at the number of poi's you have showing on the map, the more you display the slower it loads.
Hope this helps

mikegadd said:
Have you looked at the number of poi's you have showing on the map, the more you display the slower it loads.
Hope this helps
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POI's are not the main problem as TT6 started fine under winmobile 2003se with even more POI's than I have now.
I just did a test and removed all POI's and the problem remains.
POI's do slow TomTom during operation but my problem is the initial starting of the application.

Hi,
Got Qtek 9090 running xplode 7.00 rom ver 6.10.00 and Tomtom 7 runs perfect. I did have problems with TT6, taking long time to boot and find BT sat nav reciever.
Best rom so far....cooool

Good to hear it!
Can you point me to the new Xplode 7.00 rom please... I have searched but cant find it.

Touch HD same GPS lag as Touch Pro?

Just wondering if the Touch HD will get the same laging GPS receiver the Touch Pro and Diamond got? I sure hope not. Its the only thing that dissapoints me with my Touch Pro.

utvol06 said:
Just wondering if the Touch HD will get the same laging GPS receiver the Touch Pro and Diamond got? I sure hope not. Its the only thing that dissapoints me with my Touch Pro.
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It's not an issue of hardware, but software. That's like asking if it will have the same laggy TouchFlo3D because of its processor... It's just the software. My Fuze didn't have any of the complaints of slow TF3D or GPS lag, but it had the same GPS receiver as the European Touch Pro.

Black93300ZX said:
It's not an issue of hardware, but software. That's like asking if it will have the same laggy TouchFlo3D because of its processor... It's just the software. My Fuze didn't have any of the complaints of slow TF3D or GPS lag, but it had the same GPS receiver as the European Touch Pro.
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I think the cause is the hardware, because some people tried with an external gps antenna, sirf3, and no lag at all. And changing software doesn't eliminate the lag. I use iGo and TT and the lag is always there...

onesolo said:
I think the cause is the hardware, because some people tried with an external gps antenna, sirf3, and no lag at all. And changing software doesn't eliminate the lag. I use iGo and TT and the lag is always there...
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Hopefully HTC will be able to fix the GPS Lag in the diamond and Pro with a rom update...they are supposed to be working on it. I just hope the Touch HD wont share the same lag problem and that HTC sees that it doesn't before release.

Isn't the difference between the built-in GPS and an external GPS antenna the method? The built-in GPS is (AGPS) and an GPS antenna uses "normal" GPS....

No, that's not it.
Assisted GPS is something extra for a normal GPS system, not a different system. A basic GPS system will have to download the satellites' position each time it cold-starts, and that will take time. An A-GPS system will have an additional way to download the current position of all GPS satellites, in order to speed up the process, by knowing the position of your phone in a GSM network or by downloading an updated file containing the satellites' current position, through a data network (wifi or 3g). That's why the "gps assistance" files you download through this kind of assistance application (in HTC's case, it's called "Quick GPS") are only valid for 2-3 days: in 2-3 days, they expire and the satellites' positions aren't valid anymore.
All GPS systems must have an antenna of some kind, either internal or external. Mostly all PDAs with integrated GPS have an internal antenna, which does the job in most conditions, but it's not perfect. I used an external antenna for car navigation, and in most situations I went from 4-5 detected satellites (with so-so signal) to 7-8 with full signal, only by having an antenna on the roof of my car. However, this shouldn't influence by all means the GPS lag, only the precision of GPS positioning on the map (coordinates).

That's not it either.
Quick GPS downloads a file prior to GPS initiation. When started the GPS works off-line.
A-GPS is a hybrid technology that auguments the GSM satellite signal with GSM signal on-line.
You can use Quick GPS without A-GPS, which is the case of most users today, for compatibility reasons.
As for the previous question regarding GPS lag, here are two points (depending on what you understand by GPS lag):
1. the GPS chipset has a built-in refresh rate, which should be something like 0.5 seconds. This is the same for all devices sharing the same chipset.
2. when saying that the GPS performance depends on software, it does not mean IGO or TomTom, it means the Radio drivers. Newer Radio versions come up from time to time and may improve GSM / GPS signal strength or battery life, and in the very best cases both.
Follow the ROM Development threads for more info.

dani31 said:
That's not it either.
A-GPS is a hybrid technology that auguments the GSM satellite signal with GSM signal on-line.
You can use Quick GPS without A-GPS, which is the case of most users today, for compatibility reasons.
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Not to be a GPS-nazi but A-GPS doesn't necessarily imply the usage of a GSM network, but the usage of an assistance server. From Assisted GPS page on Wikipedia:
A typical A-GPS-enabled cell phone will use an internet connection to contact the assistance server. Alternatively, it may use standard non-assisted GPS, which is slower and less accurate, but does not lead to network charges for data traffic, which can be considerable.
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So, it can be done either through GSM networks, or through a data connection; therefore, the Quick GPS app is simply another form of A-GPS.
dani31 said:
1. the GPS chipset has a built-in refresh rate, which should be something like 0.5 seconds. This is the same for all devices sharing the same chipset.
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That I don't think would be visible to the end user. According to the NMEA/SiRF specs, the min refresh rate would be 1 Hz (one time per second), but the average among devices seems to be around 5 times a second, once every 200 miliseconds (5 Hz refresh). The GPS chip should do that without a problem (according to the manufacturer's specs), therefore the problem must be somewhere after the GPS data is sent to the device; either in communication to the CPU, either in the navi software. My 2 cents. We'll see.

Review from SlashGear
HTC Touch HD's review by SlashGear talks about the GPS lag..
this is the part about GPS performance of the Device:
"The HTC Touch Diamond has been criticised for its GPS performance, which can lag behind actual position when moving at speed. Hopes were high for the Touch HD to avoid such a fate, but unfortunately that doesn’t appear to be the case. Whether from the processor (the same 528MHz Qualcomm MSM7201A as in the Diamond) or the GPS receiver itself, when driving the indicated position is always 50-80ft behind. This makes navigating via the on-screen directions incredibly difficult. At lower speeds, such as when walking, the Touch HD has no problems, just like the Diamond. We’re still attempting to get hold of some alternative GPS programs, such as TomTom or Garmin Mobile XT, and will update this review when we’ve had an opportunity to try them out."
has anyone else bought the Touch HD yet who can confirm this?
i just hope the GPS lag isn't as bad as the HTC Touch Diamond/Touch Pro as i'm going to order one pretty soon.

For the sake of millions of readers and potential touch HD buyers like me,can someone who already own a touch HD,please be kind enough,do an experiment about this gps lag issue and give an absolute answer to this issue.Gps lag is very noticeble when you are navigating at high speed(eg:80-100km/h) or when doing multiple rapid turns(eg:driving on back alleys).at low speed(slow drive or walking),no lag is apparent.Currently i'm using ipaq 612c where it has this lag issue and its most noticeble when using Garmin XT.When using mapking or tom tom it is not that bad..Really waiting for all your answers.
Thanks in advance for all your help

iznee said:
For the sake of millions of readers and potential touch HD buyers like me,can someone who already own a touch HD,please be kind enough,do an experiment about this gps lag issue and give an absolute answer to this issue.Gps lag is very noticeble when you are navigating at high speed(eg:80-100km/h) or when doing multiple rapid turns(eg:driving on back alleys).at low speed(slow drive or walking),no lag is apparent.Currently i'm using ipaq 612c where it has this lag issue and its most noticeble when using Garmin XT.When using mapking or tom tom it is not that bad..Really waiting for all your answers.
Thanks in advance for all your help
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Ok, I have performed an experiment. Hopefully it will help you and "millions" of readers to decide if GPS lag is a problem or not on this device.
Test setup:
PDA 1: Mitac Mio A701, GPS chip: SIRF III, navigation software: IGO8
PDA 2: HTC Touch HD, GPS chip: Qualcomm, navigation software: IGO8
Experiment:
I start IGO8 on both devices and select the same destination. They both pick up GPS signal and the show starts..
Result:
PDA 1: depending on your speed, there is a GPS lag. This is between 0-2 seconds. In distance I would say about 20 to 50 meters. Again, all depending on your speed. When you stop (which unfortunatelly happens a lot in the netherlands due to high traffic ) the GPS gives the right position.
PDA 2: see PDA 1. There is practically no difference. Sometimes PDA 1 is more ahead, sometimes PDA 2 wins. The voice commands start virtually at the same time "take a turn left", "leave the highway" and so on. Maybe PDA 2 is a bit faster (less GPS lag) since I heard the voice like a 10th of a second earlier than on PDA 1.
Conclusion:
GPS lag is a problem that practically all "cheap" GPS devices have, specially in a moving vehicle. Since your GPS data is refreshed every second, you would be one second off every time. Moving at 100km/h, that means an offset of 27 meters. Moving at 150km/h that is about 41 meters (and yes, I know I should not drive that fast in the netherlands ). Add to that the GPS errors and you will get an impression on how hard it can be to predict where you will be in a second.
You could then say that the navigational software should take that into account and predict where it would be, but that also has a negative side. Have you noticed what happens when you do not follow the course laid ahead by the navigational software? it stays on course for a couple of seconds and then it notices you actually turned left or right, thus the direction should change.
The more aggresive the prediction is, the more you will have a problem when deviating. The less prediction, the more GPS lag you will have.
Is this a problem while driving? I have never considered it a problem. On the highway you do not decide to take a turn within 50 meters (I hope ). In the city, you should have way less problems with GPS lag...
Last, for all the "millions" of readers, please read these two articles:
Article 1, an abstract about navigational state estimator
Article 2, a forum discussing this very problem in the i-Blue receiver. Pay special attention to the answers given by JakeRich
I hope this helps you all out...

David,
I am so very pleased you had these two devices with the software mentioned.
It just so happens that I too have a Mio A701 with iGo and my next purchase will be the Touch HD.
Your test served as a good starting block for me to build upon.
I did wonder how well the Touch HD would fare against my A701.
Many thanks.
Beards

Thanks for your test. What about TMC info with iGo8 ?

gergy said:
Thanks for your test. What about TMC info with iGo8 ?
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The device finds the TMC receiver (using 8.0.x version, 8.3.x version does not find anything) but then it does not find a channel. This would need a TMC expert to work out...maybe you need to change something in the sys.txt file of IGO8

Something I would add is that until last week I was using a SirfStarIII equipped BT GPS receiver linked to my Hermes and running TTN 6.03, now I'm using the Touch HD internal GPS and TTN 7.45. I have found that the GPS signal appears to be significantly weaker on the Touch TD. However, it does have the capability to pick up more satellites it seems.
In my standard journey between home and work the BT GPS receiver never picked up more than 8 satellites but never picked up less than 4 and spent most time tracking 5-6. The Touch HD at times picks up 10, maybe even 11(!), satellites but often drops to 2 and spends most time tracking 3-5.

Impression
I'm using Tomtom 7,451 now on my HD.
I tried it with the internal GPs and even with an external bleutoth GPS receiver from Tomtom itself.
The so called lag is the same in both cases.It is caused by the slow refreshing rate ( almost 1 second ).That is not a major problem and is the same that I experienced already with the Polaris,Cruise and Diamond.
So when driving try to think at least 1 second ahead.
When you're not moving I got a pefect lock on my position with Tomtom but with Googlemaps i'm of by almost 150 meter to the East.
So that's software I think.

BerreZ said:
I'm using Tomtom 7,451 now on my HD.
I tried it with the internal GPs and even with an external bleutoth GPS receiver from Tomtom itself.
The so called lag is the same in both cases.It is caused by the slow refreshing rate ( almost 1 second ).That is not a major problem and is the same that I experienced already with the Polaris,Cruise and Diamond.
So when driving try to think at least 1 second ahead.
When you're not moving I got a pefect lock on my position with Tomtom but with Googlemaps i'm of by almost 150 meter to the East.
So that's software I think.
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I get my touch hd today. looks like I wont be installing Google maps at all on it. I'm going to buy Co-Pilot 7 when I get the chance. I also like Windows Live search GPS app, but it may lag like google.

utvol06 said:
I get my touch hd today. looks like I wont be installing Google maps at all on it. I'm going to buy Co-Pilot 7 when I get the chance. I also like Windows Live search GPS app, but it may lag like google.
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Google maps is already preinstalled, at least on my Touch HD it was (Netherlands)

last word on gpslag?
Hi to All,
Personally, i start realizing the limitation of forums in producing real information.
First of all, most "commercial" and consumer GPS update their position every second, as correctly pointed out in this forum. Said this, faster position updates are possible for professional devices, see
http://www.dsprelated.com/showmessage/22833/1.php
but we can probably forget about it for the time being.
so, don't be surprised if - driving at 100 km per hour alias 30 m/s - you will miss the exit by 30 meters. Be reassured: Felipe Massa will miss the box by 100m if he would drive by looking to the GPS - and your braking distance was anyway 60 m....aaaghh....i hope i will never meet any of you while making the test.
My firm and conclusive opinion after extensive evaluation with Igo and Tomtom and gwatch:
The GPS LAG on the touch HD is a metropolitan legend invented by i-members!
If you check on igo8, there is a small dot representing the actual position, and the arrow or the car is the position compute by software interpolation/filtering etc. Everybody can notice that the dot moves instantaneously. It is a matter of software to decide how to filter this data, and how "reactive" you want the position change to happen. On top of this, it is obvious that updating a VGA or WVGA screen will be heavier than updating a small screen, so there should be a lag which is dependent on the navigation software you use and on the load on your telephone.
However, there is definitely no lag on tomtom....the problem is: how to buy version 7?

Here is video comparison omnia vs hd
It seems to me there is little lag on hd.
Colud somebody translate it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v45--rkRgjk

GPS (Touch Pro) vs GPS (Xperia)

Do somebody know if there is any difference (in practical terms) in GPS implementation in both devices.
I've heard (unconfirmed) that Xperia could not use its GPS module without access to gsm network (it is capable only of aGPS) while Touch Pro could do both (aGPS as well as stand alone GPS).
Please let us know.
Thanx.

I haven't tested neither of them so I can't tell you about that, but what I can say is that the rumour you´ve heard (about only accessed to gsm network) is NOT true. aGPS is just like an ordinary GPS but with the assistance of the "a" (the gsm network) when and if available.

GPS
It makes sense. Thank you.

The Xperia has both network assisted gps and regular gps

the gps is in the qualcomm cpu same brand on both devices as i'm not wrong

Since both Pro and X1 use the same chipset for GPS, has anyone, who owned both, noticed any differences(or similarities) in the performance of X1?

Did someone test the fomous GPS lag issue in X1?

I have had a very positive experience with the xperia's gps.Outdoors (inside cars ofc) I can get a fresh gps fix within second. Indoors I usually get it in less than 2min but that prob depends on the building
cheers

Hi.
But what about the GPS lag issue of touch pro and Diamond?, you know, when you move (by car) and you stop then the arrow reaches you after some seconds (instead of stop in the moment), this is, the arrow is always 20m-60m behind you.

I can confirm that there is about one second of lag with the GPS while driving with a constant speed of ~80 km/h. Tested with the latest TomTom. This equates to about 20 m. I have yet to see a GPS receiver that doesnt have any lag though...

Thanks. Thats what I wanted to know

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Thanks. Thats what I wanted to know
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But have you seen any GPS that DOESN'T lag?
I am curious because the few I have seen, internal and external do lag also. I figure GPS by its nature HAS to lag, its the time it takes to get a signal off several satellites and triangulate your position from them.

Hi Alex.
Take a look to the diamod,s forum and touch pro forum and you will see what I am talking about. There are hundred of forum pages talking about it (in xda). I ve used gps devices since 10 years ago. With my latest devices (kaise, cruise) there wasnt that issue. But GPS lag in diamond make very hard to drive in a city. When theorically diamond shows you re in a cross really you are 50 meters passed and I loose many turns. Many people, me included, ve contacted with htc to report the issue and they say their people is trying to fix the problem.
Dani

Ah so "Its lag Jim but not as we know it!".
Fair enough, I hope the X1 doesn't suffer then but I have an external GPS for my Wizard anyway if it did.

hehe,
I ve an external gps bt too but I want to use the internal one. I am very sad about the diamond gps lag problem and I am going to sell it and buy a x1 if, and only if, gps lag isnt a problem with x1
ps: GPS performance is very important to me, did you notice it?

danielherrero said:
hehe,
I ve an external gps bt too but I want to use the internal one. I am very sad about the diamond gps lag problem and I am going to sell it and buy a x1 if, and only if, gps lag isnt a problem with x1
ps: GPS performance is very important to me, did you notice it?
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Of course, you're batman after all
Can't have you running into walls with the batmobile.

Well at least if you run into walls with the batmobile, the car isn't harmed.
Besides, if you followed GPS literally you would be driving on the sidewalk and through trees - at least according to Google Maps anyway.
That last few couple of meters of inaccuracy can be a real pain

Exactly!!. My bat-car hasnt windows to protect me against guns and rockets so I need to rely in the gps at 100%

By the way what gps software do you think is best for the Xperia ?

Alex Atkin UK said:
Well at least if you run into walls with the batmobile, the car isn't harmed.
Besides, if you followed GPS literally you would be driving on the sidewalk and through trees - at least according to Google Maps anyway.
That last few couple of meters of inaccuracy can be a real pain
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Well, at least you have an excuse!
"Officer, the GPS told me so, fine it! No, i'm not drunk. What's with the taser..."