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Verizon's rates are getting outrageous. I pay $170+ per month for unlimited everything (calling, messaging, and data) and that does not include all the extras like music, tv, and gps like Sprint does. Sprint has much better rates to offer. They can save me over $50 a month, and that certainly adds up.
What's involved in flashing my XV6800 to work on the Sprint network?
(I apologize if this has already been covered, I searched and didn't find it. Point me to the thread if it has been covered)
-Randy
I'll take a guess and say pray to god your esn can be added to sprint. I mean I never tried to do it, but with the esn I'm pretty sure that's important
I've seen similar questions on the boards here and there. Either sprint to verizon or the other way around. I can't remember. I would start by calling sprint and asking them. If they take the esn, then the rest is easy. You can go to the htc website to download the official rom, or if you prefer a customized rom, follow the directions for the rom of your choice.
studentjunk said:
I've seen similar questions on the boards here and there. Either sprint to verizon or the other way around. I can't remember. I would start by calling sprint and asking them. If they take the esn, then the rest is easy. You can go to the htc website to download the official rom, or if you prefer a customized rom, follow the directions for the rom of your choice.
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It is possible but its very rare... it really takes an act of God to get this done. They claim they can't do it but this really can happen.
their policy is not to do it, but if you talk to the right person, and talk to them the right way, it could happen, honestly i wouldnt hold my breath though
i would say your best bet is to try to find someone trying to take their titan the other way (sprint to verizon) and trade
U wouldn't want to take your VZW phone anyways. The sprint mogul is a little better to work on. GPS is unlocked so you can put your favorite program like Google if you like that.
just get sprint to give it to you for free when you sign up for the simply everything plan. i thought best buy was doing that (maybe still are, you should check). but i sell cell phones and you are likely to convince them to give u one for free, if they wouldnt already.
it's very very unliky eventhought it's technically posssible
Sprint keeps a database of all registed ESN that can be activate on their network and ONLY phones with the SPRINT logo (and hybird Nextels) are in that database.
but doesnt hurt to try..u might get lucky
Wait til sprint gets the Touch Pro in a few months
Then you could justify the upgrade cost because of the monthly savings you will get
I agree with you, I have Verizon and its crazy how much they nickel and dime their customers.
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U wouldn't want to take your VZW phone anyways. The sprint mogul is a little better to work on. GPS is unlocked so you can put your favorite program like Google if you like that.
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They are the same phone if you use a custom ROM like DCD. I am on VZW and have the GPS working just fine. All it would take is to put the Stock Sprint ROM on my phone and then go back to DCD's custom ROM. But as everyone has said Sprint taking the ESN is the deciding factor.
I gotta figure something out. I love Verizon's service, never had any problems, but I can't take the outrageous bills anymore. I'll be happy to shell out my $100 early termination fee and make that up in 2 billing cycles from Sprint.
Anyone have any connections or direct numbers for Sprint tech support where I can look into checking my ESN number?
The reason I ask is because I went to both verizon and sprint and i asked:
--at verizon--
Me: If I buy an Evo from sprint, full price and bring it here to run on your network will it work? being that both of you run CDMA I dont see it being a problem? am I wrong?
Verizon: No, it will not work. You should get our "incredible."
--at sprint--
Me: If I buy an "incredible" from Verizon, full price and bring it here to run on your network will it work? being that both of you run CDMA I dont see it being a problem? am I wrong?
Sprint: No, it will not work.
So I asked them both why not...?
Verizon: different hardware. And settings.
Sprint: Legality.
(they also said they have not had their training yet at that location for the evo... and they are only a few weeks away of a release. )
Can someone explain whats going on here? They made me doubt my understanding as to how cdma worked. It is to my understanding it should work on both networks. Question is, getting verizon to accept me as a customer with the evo. Someone correct me if im wrong.
Im set on the Evo, but I dont want Sprint. I want verizon. Not planning on getting the "incredible." For that I stick with the iphone 4g and att.
There are ways to do it, but they are quite illegal (as in rape you in the ass prison felony). Look it up online, but don't expect to find that info here.
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There are ways to do it, but they are quite illegal (as in rape you in the ass prison felony). Look it up online, but don't expect to find that info here.
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Any chance for a little more clarification? A keyword at least to find my answer. I just want to know actually why they would reject a potential customer. I'm a little tired of smoke and mirrors.
I wouldn't want to do anything illegal like cloning. I just want facts. No big deal.
tried it twice...no go
only way would be to hack the phone and change a whole lotta stuff...then change the esn to another verizon phone you own (which is illegal, i believe). then it is possible. however, i have two phones (one alltel, one sprint) and have requested verizon to add my esn's to their database (after i changed the 'whole lotta stuff' myself) ...eventhough the phones work on verizon, i could never get them to add them to their database enabling me to legally use the phone on their network. i griped and griped, they 'caved' in on more than one occasion, and said it would be done, but never did it. 15-20 total calls? and still nothing. i can't wait to tell them i am leaving...and for that reason i am not on contract. they tried to tell me numerous times it "wouldn't work, different hardware" but i have even tested it and made calls successfully, so it all seems to be a game. the one department that was designed to allow this, apparently closed. bottom line, don't waste your time. by the time someone posts instructions on how to do it, their will be 2-3 verizon phones more powerful -it is still a long way off.
It's ESN switching. Sprint and Verzion never put each others ESNs on to the other's network. I don't think even Jesus could manage that feat.
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only way would be to hack the phone and change a whole lotta stuff...then change the esn to another verizon phone you own (which is illegal, i believe). then it is possible. however, i have two phones (one alltel, one sprint) and have requested verizon to add my esn's to their database (after i changed the 'whole lotta stuff' myself) ...eventhough the phones work on verizon, i could never get them to add them to their database enabling me to legally use the phone on their network. i griped and griped, they 'caved' in on more than one occasion, and said it would be done, but never did it. 15-20 total calls? and still nothing. i can't wait to tell them i am leaving...and for that reason i am not on contract. they tried to tell me numerous times it "wouldn't work, different hardware" but i have even tested it and made calls successfully, so it all seems to be a game. the one department that was designed to allow this, apparently closed. bottom line, don't waste your time. by the time someone posts instructions on how to do it, their will be 2-3 verizon phones more powerful -it is still a long way off.
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Thank you! thats the answer I was looking for. Much grateful!
What about the users that pay full price? Why would they do that if they cant take it elsewhere? Does it mean Even if they pay full price, the ESN belongs to sprint? It sounds wrong to do that. Im not complaining. Im just trying to make sense of this.
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It sounds wrong to do that.
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Welcome to the world. Don't let the door kick you in the ass on the way out.
theres a form you can fill out to take a cdma phone from another carrier and activate it on verizon, you need to ship your phone to vzw HQ though, and they say it can take 3 weeks to determine if they will allow it on the network or not.
its an official verizon form just gotta find it.
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theres a form you can fill out to take a cdma phone from another carrier and activate it on verizon, you need to ship your phone to vzw HQ though, and they say it can take 3 weeks to determine if they will allow it on the network or not.
its an official verizon form just gotta find it.
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I'll check with the verizon rep. She was really friendly and what ever she didnt know she dug for papers. Maybe we can work something out.
I'll keep everyone posted if something results.
Thanks for the information!
will not work on verizon, they have a policy of not taking sprint branded phones, the esn's are registered to sprint and they know it's an evo.
sprint doesn't take anything other than what they've registered... it's a sticky thicket I know.
esn cloneing would work, but we don't talk about that kinda stuff here apparently, gotten scolded on more than one occasion for doing so =P
Hi all,
I made a rookie mistake and ordered a locked T-Mobile HD2 from ebay (wasn't paying attention).
I live in Canada, so unfortunately that rules out the option of trying to get an unlock code from T-Mobile. Can anybody guide me towards the cheapest option to getting this phone unlocked? I should be receiving it early next week... I can't believe I just blew almost $400 on a phone without noticing that it's locked
Thanks in advance,
Faruk
Means you also won't get 3G on Rogers either...but I digress, http://www.htcsimunlock.com is where I got mine. 16USD and about 20 minutes later my Tmo Leo is unlocked. Easy to use, just insert the new SIM or hit up \Windows\simlock.exe and enter your code.
Hey thanks for the reply man! I was actually starting to get pretty worried, I did some searching beforehand and all I could find were people who were having trouble unlocking theirs!
And I'm actually on Wind Mobile (not Rogers), so the T-Mobile version (1700MHz 3G) was actually exactly what I was looking for.
Nice! Let me know how that works out, i've got a friend in Canada on Wind aswell who is super jealous of my HD2, and if it works as expected, then he might be getting a pretty sweet Christmas present....
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Nice! Let me know how that works out, i've got a friend in Canada on Wind aswell who is super jealous of my HD2, and if it works as expected, then he might be getting a pretty sweet Christmas present....
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I would not be too quick in getting him it for Wind. They may not be around much longer.. time will tell..
Don't listen to Rockjock, I know him from another forum... His part- (or full?) time job is to scare people about Wind... He must be employed by Rogers.
Anyway, if Wind (new entrant) does lose against the incumbents, they will probably get bought out by Rogers. It's not like the network will vanish into thin air.
But anyway, that's totally off-topic. Go find another thread to troll, "Rockjock".
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Don't listen to Rockjock, I know him from another forum... His part- (or full?) time job is to scare people about Wind... He must be employed by Rogers.
Anyway, if Wind (new entrant) does lose against the incumbents, they will probably get bought out by Rogers. It's not like the network will vanish into thin air.
But anyway, that's totally off-topic. Go find another thread to troll, "Rockjock".
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I was just stating a fact. So please take off your wind cape and discuss it. The OP was asking about using a high end handset on Wind. All I said was perhaps they should wait to see if Wind stays afloat. You are right Wind could be bought up and the network would not go to waste but you failed to mention that all the equipment is owned by Orascom and as such they are simply permitted to take back all the roof top units. The spectrum debt is what Rogers could buy from Orascom. Speaking of which any validity to the comment that calls are being routed to Egypt for customer service issues? Seems that Orascom is taking a more active role..
Also i must say the " he must work for rogers " line is getting a tad tired.
sorry for the hijack but I think it was needed to be explained. if not Mods pls delete.
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Anyway, if Wind (new entrant) does lose against the incumbents, they will probably get bought out by Rogers. It's not like the network will vanish into thin air.
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I agree. Even if they end up filing for Bankruptcy (is that a business option in Canada?), their hardware and towers will remain, meaning that someone will own them and use them rather than tear them down.
We've seen a lot of wireless companies come and go down in the States and I have yet to speak to a single person who lost their service as a result. My friend in Arkansas has actually been shunted around by the AT&T->Cingular->att circle several times and never lost service.
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I agree. Even if they end up filing for Bankruptcy (is that a business option in Canada?), their hardware and towers will remain, meaning that someone will own them and use them rather than tear them down.
We've seen a lot of wireless companies come and go down in the States and I have yet to speak to a single person who lost their service as a result. My friend in Arkansas has actually been shunted around by the AT&T->Cingular->att circle several times and never lost service.
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Thats true, but thats only if the company that goes under owns the equipment they do not. Simply put Rogers could only buy the debt, as the equipment is owned by the only Investor. So once the equipment is taken back Wind could enjoy seamless coast to coast coverage on a 2g network.
Anyway, back to topic.
Yesterday I unlocked my T-Mobile HD2 at unlock-now.com. The phone is new one, IMEI starts from 35777. I took 10 minutes and 17.5 euros by Paypal.
I'm not linked to this service at all, just want to inform it's worked for me. Going to try htcsimunlock.com a bit later.
Uh, I have made the same mistake.
Did not realize that there was a difference until now
Does this mean that I will not get 3G, as I live in Europe?
Yes it does. You have to use the device meant for your region in order to get 3G with it.
June 30, 2011 Update:
First, thank you to all of you who posted and had positive things to say or add to the situation. I am not going to go into all of the post and try to refute and explain myself as what I posted is totally accurate and true from MY experience and from my HOURS of time spent on the phone and the endless emails and down time with my phone and the hours driving back and forth to the Corporate Sprint store due to either lack of service or because my phone completely stopped working. That, in and of itself, is another long drama that I have had to deal with. Good news for me, staying true to yourself and NOT lying, does sometimes pay off in the long run.
Anyway, from what I have found out from a Radio Shack manager, the excessive usage was coming from multiple sources. I did post and ask about this, but I didn't ever see a reply. Just heads up in case you are in a similar situation as I was, you might want to double check your settings on your wireless settings if you are using either the Sprint Mobile Hotspot Paid version or if you are using the free tethering App.
Basically, as stated, I did have one month of almost 45GB. Most, are around 22 according to the new graph on Sprint's online webpage. I do have three computers that are/were linked to my EVO using the Hotspot. The problem is that I had turned the setting from either OFF/Disable After 10 Minutes/Always On to "Always On". According to the R/S manager that is where the problem started. I had turned it to "Always On", because my Dad sometimes gets up early and likes to use the computer so I just figured I would leave it on so it is ready at any time. Because the computers, though not really being used physically, are constantly pinging for information. Checking for auto updates. Checking for new email. If a page was left open that has news on it, that is being constantly updated.
Now, this past month, due to Sprint's problem with their towers/service, I was in a constant state of roaming. Where I live, there is NO Sprint/Verizon/AT&T/T-Mobile official towers. Surrounding my area are all the old Alltel towers, which Verizon bought. So, when it did roam, it was using Verizon and costing Sprint an arm and a leg, through no fault of my own.
How this got resolved, like I said after MANY HOURS!! on the phone-my house phone as my EVO completely died. (Short story-In April the USB port stopped charging my EVO. My local store gave me a replacement but flagged it the same day as being water damaged/damaged beyond repair! I didn't find this out until I had performed the new 2.3.3 update and my EVO started shutting down and wouldn't turn back on for a day or so. My local store, advertises as being an authorized repair center, didn't have a Slate machine, so I had to drive 1 hour one way to a Sprint Corporate store. At the time, I didn't know it had been flagged improperly. They looked it over. Didn't find any water damage or any scratches. The tech DID know it had been rooted. He said he was new and didn't care about the software part, only the hardware.
Again, as soon as I got home, the phone stopped working again. Again, this is becoming WAY too long. I could write a book about ALL that happened. It has been a literal NIGHTMARE. Now, the Corporate store was saying that it was NOW water damaged. (It must have happened between the time they improperly flagged it as being water damaged to now-the day I walked into the store now). I have never had water touch or even come close to my phone so I knew that the refurbished phone that they had given me that was replaced for the bad USB was probably water damaged and they gave it to me. Of course all was denied by both my local store and the Corporate store. (I was told they couldn't possibly make TWO mistakes-one flagging the phone wrong the first time, then overriding it because they said it wasn't water damaged, then now suddenly it became water damaged).
Because I do keep such good records and because it was noted on my account all of the notes and all of the problems(A Sprint Phone Supervisor had taken off the bad IMEI damage report on my EVO. After sticking to my grounds about what had been happening and the excessive data/roaming issue, I ended up getting a brand NEW EVO from Assurion(Sprint paid my $100.00 deductible because the Corporate store wouldn't. They are very nice if you need a new phone or service, and are usually pretty good when you have problems. But these people, knowing most people do lie to them or whatever, acted the way some have on here. If it hadn't have been for all of my emails/recorded phone calls etc to Sprint Customer Phone Care, I would be SOL. I did also pick up a new EVO 3D at a Radio Shack.
Now, as far as the tracking/usage information. Yes, they can track you. Yes, they have the capabilities to see what sites you are visiting/what you are downloading etc. This was confirmed to me when I called the number that I had listed for me to call. Yes, they will send you the data statistics. However, as one user pointed out, it is MUCH easier for them to just cancel one user's account than to actually fix the problem of roaming issues. Unless, as one user pointed out, if you can use a secure private VPN that scrambles your personal IP address or uses servers that go through other servers type of thing. They can tell if you are rooted and if you are using the UNPAID version of the Sprint Mobile Hotspot. Are they watching everyone? No. It would simply take too much man hours to do so. HOWEVER, in my case, because last month the EVO was not working properly due to whatever the problem with the phone was, it made it roam excessively. When this gets triggered, your account WILL go to a SPECIAL DATA analyzing department. They will NOT tell you how much is TOO much and they DO NOT send out a warning letter.
According to the Radio Shack manager, and I can hear some of you doubters now, but although the EVO was always listed as being UNLIMITED 3G/4G, it is really only for NOW for the 4G. If you are using data usage over 5GB a month on Sprint's 3G network, your account will be flagged and it then because throttled. Those who have experienced this will agree. It may not happen if you live where there are an abundance of towers for you to bounce off from. Where I live, there is ONE and it is shared by Verizon on a private property owned tower/land. That is why it became such an issue as in MY town and even surrounding towns, all towers are/were Alltel towers, now owned by Verizon.
The funny thing is after all of this, Verizon is putting up an official new LTE tower about 2500 feet or so from my house on the same side of the road. I still love my EVO and more so the new 3D. And, looking once more at Verizon's cost, Sprint is WAY more cost effective.
The moral of the story. If you are honest and know you are in the right, stand your ground and don't let others who don't even know you try to tell you otherwise. Good always overcomes EVIL and hatred, if you can make it through it to the end. I can't begin to tell you how sad I felt the way the comments on here were. Not that it was a big surprise when I have read other threads-people are people-which are really just dressed animals. Take off the clothes and we are just pretty much barbaric.
PS. If you have your Wireless Hotspot setting to "Always ON", make sure you disable that to either "Disable after 10 minutes" or simply turn off the Hotspot or computers so that they are not always hooked up to the EVO.
If I have helped even one person who might have had this type or similar situation, this long saga, with lots of in-betweens not even listed, I have done my job.
Again, A Big Thank You to all who didn't bash and those who shared similar experiences or at least had some faith from a fellow XDA-Member. I appreciate it. Have a great day!
Good Morning.
I just wanted to post this as other post seem to talk about Sprint canceling service due to excessive roaming data/phone usage on the EVO. I am being canceled even though my phone is not roaming.
Long story short, Sprint said that they are now tracking exactly what sites people are using. They are actually pinpointing what sites you visit(thus the reason why I couldn't access XDA-Developers or Android Central, among other sites. They are taking readings from your phone and if it doesn't match what the official Sprint versions should be, your phone is flagged as being rooted and you are put on a list. This is not good people.
I never received any notice about excessive usage. In fact, I had called them to find out why my data usage was so high as I never(can't, because my 3G service is too slow, anyway), download any movies, rarely watch YouTube because of excessive buffering, can't use QIK, etc, but it would show I was using between 3-45GB a month. That part is what is discerning as I don't download anything that could be anywhere near that amount. And yes, I pay for the $30.00 Mobile Hotspot feature.
This was confirmed when I took my phone in for servicing because of a faulty USB port(wouldn't charge phone). EVO had been rooted many times, but I had put it back to specs by running RUU. The in-store REP said he knew it had been Rooted because their Slate machines show them everything that has been done to the phone. Also, because my towers were having problems, I called because my phone kept Roaming, when it shouldn't be. I was told by every person on the phone and in-store not to worry as you have an EVO with Unlimited Everything, including roaming, which I knew that was not true.
So, after being with Sprint since 1991,(In 1989 United Telecom purchased a controlling interest, and in 1991 completed its acquisition of US Sprint. The same year United Telecom changed its name to Sprint, due in large part to the increased brand recognition as a result of the successful Candice Bergen "Dime Lady" advertisement campaign). I am getting the boot. They also told me they are really cracking down as I was personally about the 30th person calling the special number they gave me to call. I asked why no one ever told me the past few weeks when I literally spent hours on the phone and hours driving to an actual Corporate store to get my phone repaired. I was told they don't have to. Only if you have excessive phone roaming they might give you a courtesy call or letter. However, if they consider you a Power data user, roaming or not, you will not receive any other type of letter than a termination of service plan.
They will, however, waive the ETF. I asked her what would be causing the excessive usage as I have wondered the same. I maybe downloaded a few roms a month. I do have three computers hooked up, but mainly do updates, then shut them down. So, it makes no sense. Just beware, they are now tracking what sites you visit and even block them. I was wondering why I couldn't access XDA or say Android Central etc, and they told me that is why. I live in Michigan and was being pinged from Oklahoma City, I was told. They said every detail of what sites I was visiting, what software version I had on my phone at that time and even when using the Mobile HotSpot, what type of devices were connected.
Since I live 1 1/2 mile from the city where I could get a packaged high speed Internet connection, my only available providers are Sprint or Verizon, no T-Mobile available and AT&T still using 2.5 Edge. I wanted to put as much info here so you would know and not have to ask too many questions if you have any. This is more of an F.Y.I. as Big Brother really is upon us. Packet Sniffers and all. Just be careful if Sprint is your only provider as they are watching, waiting, and canceling upon their discretion. I too, will miss this great forum and all of the devs and users for their help and knowledge and making my EVO fun to use. Take care and have a great day!
PS Please, if you don't have any information regarding the actual issue, please don't take up extra space and pages by adding in your comments about grammar, spelling mistakes, paragraphs needed, or you simply have no relevant information to add, etc. It serves no use on this post or any other. Just move on. I am not looking for sympathy or need chastising. If you read the post, I have done everything that I know to be perfectly legal. I am just letting others know that with this type of selective termination of someone's account, with no advanced warning, you could be next. Since MOST reading this are heavy users or are using the Mobile Hot Spot for free, Sprint knows and is starting to do something about it. Nothing more, nothing less.
Thank you and have a great day. Peace Out!
Wow..its like its hard to beleive but than again, ITS NOT :/ So Sprint is taking the same route as Microsoft with the ban-hammer over rooting? Seems fishy..i understand about the excessive roaming data, ive read that even in Cricket Wireless' agreement.
Are you saying that you're tethering three computers off your phone and taking Micrososft Updates? That could explain the excessive data usage right there and why you were flagged. An adroid pone should never be visiting the Microsoft Update website.
(EDIT: Just re-read your post where you say you pay the $30.00 tethering fee... well, that pretty much puts the lie to Sprint's "unlimited data" claims.)
Something doesn't seem right... If you are using 45GB a month then you are doing something and that is excessively high usage and to be honest, I don't blame them for kicking you off their network in order to protect it from customers who arent' using it as their sole internet provider (which it is not designed to be).
The issue here is quality of service. Sprint is in trouble imo. They have all these great phones, but their service (especially data rates) are going into the dump. I never get above 600 kbits/s and 3G is supposed to be as high as 3 mbits/s.
Agree about the 45GB part. That's probably why you were flagged and dropped. I doubt Sprint would give a rats ass about someone who's rooted but only using a few hundred MB of data each month.
Are you the reason my speeds are so slow?
That's excessive bro. Since you had been paying for the hotspot, then I would argue the case, but it appears from the outside that you may have abused the system and got caught.
Adapt and overcome...
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That's my point.....I am paying for the tethering....but even just doing computer updates should not be putting me(my max was 45GB one month). Right now I am at 12GB and have 12 days to go. I did just download Google's new beta Music App...but, I mean, they put all of these apps.....Netflix, Blockbuster, actually on the phone to use. Then, you can stream Pandora, I do use Weather Bug Premium and have that set to update every 15 minutes since we are in the Tornado range so I think that uses a lot of data on my EVO. But, other than that, not much else. Like this month, I haven't even downloaded any new Roms....since I have an EVO 3D at The Shack that I am supposed to pick up......Sprint said they would buy back my EVO for $150.00.....but because I bought so many accessories......it would be best to list it on Craigslist! I mean, I have the HDMI to watch movies on my TV.....that never worked because I could never download a movie as it would just time out....That is/was half the problem and I told Sprint that I think that most of the usage is because I try to download something....it gets up to 98% and then errors out....so I have to start all over.....this happened all the time....so I still can't see how the data usage ever got that high......I basically have one lap top that I use and my EVO.....but no movie downloads....no Peer to Peer type of stuff.....just roms from XDA....and that was like at the most maybe 4 or 5 in one month....and navigation for my car......and I was paying the extra $30.00 so that I could utilize the "up to 8 devices" that the EVO allows to be connected. I had three....so, enough justification on my side as I was no doing anything illegal....other than rooting and putting on another rom.....but paying for the Hot Spot....but the scary part was that they know and could tell right away that it is now or EVER has been rooted and what version. It is pretty eye opening for me as most people always said that they could do this but wouldn't or wouldn't take the time...but with new advances....we are all being tracked one way or another and for them to know all of my business and what sites I am visiting is scary....and how they can put blocks on say this site because they saw I was downloading roms(which is not acceptable in their minds) to change Sprint's software version....against their terms and services agreement........and if I had any way of not having to use Sprint as my only means of Internet connection.....I would.......but it is just not available.....thus...the reason I chose the EVO for the Unlimited 3G or 4G......I even mentioned that Dan Hesse keeps making that distinction in his ads.......so take it for what you want.....just don't want anyone else to lose their service.....but, you have no control.....they said they look....and see what version is on your phone, what sites you are visiting...and then send you a letter. From what I was told, many, many letters have and will be going out.....and they had received many calls from people like myself......but, basically, without saying that exactly, but they really don't care if you have been an on-time paying customer for 20 years......
if its unlimited.
how can using it be abuse?
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Agree about the 45GB part. That's probably why you were flagged and dropped. I doubt Sprint would give a rats ass about someone who's rooted but only using a few hundred MB of data each month.
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The problem is, say, because my USB port was not holding a charge or charging, even when you think that you have Unrooted your phone....and take it in for service.....they are starting to use that as a reason to not allow you to use your insurance to have it fixed because their software shows that it is now or was in the past rooted...thus violating Sprint's terms and conditions.....so that was my point...it is just a heads up that they do know......even when running a RUU to completely wipe your phone....it is the pinging that that do to your phone that goes back to their servers that tell them....and they will/can use that against you when you need a repair service......
I think basically what you have proved is that "unlimited data" doesn't actually mean "unlimimted data" even if you're paying for the hotspot feature.
Right now you're on track to use about 20GB of data in one month. It sounds like this isn't really an aberration either, given that your data usage has spiked as high as 45GB.
I don't doubt that Sprint can tell a lot about your phone's history by examining your current build and update history. But I don't think a typical user has much to worry about (yet) based on what you've told us... not unless they, too, are using tens of GB of data per month.
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The problem is, say, because my USB port was not holding a charge or charging, even when you think that you have Unrooted your phone....and take it in for service.....they are starting to use that as a reason to not allow you to use your insurance to have it fixed because their software shows that it is now or was in the past rooted...thus violating Sprint's terms and conditions.....so that was my point...it is just a heads up that they do know......even when running a RUU to completely wipe your phone....it is the pinging that that do to your phone that goes back to their servers that tell them....and they will/can use that against you when you need a repair service......
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I don't carry the insurance on my EVO or my Nook Color for that reason: rooting violates your warranty. Why pay these companies for an insurance policy if you intend to do something with the device that will invalidate that warranty? Sure, maybe you can cover you tracks well enough that they'll never know when you bring it in for warranty service... but maybe not.
Agfadoc said:
Are you the reason my speeds are so slow?
That's excessive bro. Since you had been paying for the hotspot, then I would argue the case, but it appears from the outside that you may have abused the system and got caught.
Adapt and overcome...
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That's my point though....listing what I have listed above....what in the world would it ever cause it to use that type of usage.....I mean.....when I first got my EVO and didn't know anything about rooting.....it was like 43GB the first month.....it just doesn't make any sense and it has all been reported.....by ME....to Sprint in the past why is my data usage so high.....they never mentioned anything....like...it could be this or that.....nothing......so, I just never worried about it because I thought it as a glitch in their system or something......I told my friends and they were like "Whoa"....that is a lot but they couldn't figure out how in the heck it could even download that much in a month.....mostly....it is around 9-15GB a month....45GB was the most.....but still......where is the 9-15GB coming from.....movies would be the most obvious...but I can't/don't stream or download any movies....so I am just perplexed, actually.....especially since I was the one many months ago that brought it to their attention.....but I would always get the "Don't worry...you have the EVO where everything is unlimited" story.......NOT!
Quick question: Are you using encryption? if not, it could be that other people are connecting to your Evo and gobbling up your data.
Note: I don't now much about the built-in hotspot feature, so I don't know if it requres encryption or not.
dsf3g said:
Quick question: Are you using encryption? if not, it could be that other people are connecting to your Evo and gobbling up your data.
Note: I don't now much about the built-in hotspot feature, so I don't know if it requres encryption or not.
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Yes, I do......or did.....and not sure if anyone knows....but, if you get this letter....does this mean you may never have another Sprint account? I forgot to ask that part when I was talking to the REP. She said that she was just telling everyone that kept calling that Sprint must be paying an arm and a let for 3G service.....so when the data is high or if your phone calls are roaming....it costs Sprint a lot of money.....So.....wondering as I heard before that only 4G is truly unlimited......if that is really true.....
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2,636,454 kb right now with 13 days left in the billing cycle. Does that equal 2 gb? (if its not on a tape measure,i can't figure it out...lol)
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If Sprint is cancelling service due to modifications on your device, and I'm going to research the exact court case, number, etc and keep it handy, then they are violating the court ruling from last year that allows the end user to modify their device, as long as it's owned, not leased or rented, in anyway they see fit.
Warranty adherence is up to the end user, not the service provider. no one can FORCE you to adhere to a warranty on anything you own. Anything. They can only advise the potential for voiding a warranty.
As for your data usage. 45 gigs is an insane amount of data.
I understand though, that if you pay 30 bucks a month for tethering, which is basically what it costs for AT&T DSL's lowest priced package, then they should have no say in how you use it, unless it's for illegal means.
1 Gigabyte = 1,048,576 Kilobytes
1 Gigabyte = 1,024 Megabytes
1 Megabyte = 1,024 Kilobytes
So, yeah....you are using about 2.6GB
So maybe 5 gig by the end of the month between 2 evo's. Not so bad....
Thanks.
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How can you determine the amount of data you've used thus far in a month? Do you have to install a separate app, or is there an option built-in.
I'm going to be traveling soon to Belize, wondering what the best way is to be able to use my phone down there. I had a G3 last year when we went to Mexico, and the Mexico plan addon worked fine for us there for the bit we needed to use it, but I'm not sure what to do this time. I went to the Verizon Trip Planner site but they don't show the 6p of course.
So go buy another sim while I'm down there?
Or should I just turn on airplane mode and use wifi only when I can and rent a local phone?
Check Project Fi's coverage there?
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Check Project Fi's coverage there?
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Darned good idea, they are on their "International List", but calls/data/text don't work over the networks there it says.
https://fi.google.com/about/rates/?country=BZ
Any one else have any ideas?
This is what I'm looking at so far.
http://hotguidebelize.com/digicell-sim-cards-and-calling-minutes/
Not terribly sure how it works, if this gives me a new number for the time I'm down there or what.
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Darned good idea, they are on their "International List", but calls/data/text don't work over the networks there it says.
https://fi.google.com/about/rates/?country=BZ
Any one else have any ideas?
This is what I'm looking at so far.
http://hotguidebelize.com/digicell-sim-cards-and-calling-minutes/
Not terribly sure how it works, if this gives me a new number for the time I'm down there or what.
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A quick google search shows that DigiCell is the largest carrier in Belize, so that might be a good choice. And yes, if you get a sim card from them, you will have a new, temporary number. I don't think you can use your current number (different country codes, network, ect.) without some costly roaming plans from your carrier here in the US. That being said, if you really want to keep your US number, and only plan to call and receive text msg, and don't care about data then you could ask your carrier about how much roaming would cost, and see if it's really worth it.
Yeah, DigiCell is in the second link in my last post. I think that's the way I'm going for it. Unfortunately, none of Verizon's Trip Plan stuff works with the 6P, so I can't even try to see if it'll work. I'm going to contact someone there today but I expect no support because they didn't sell the phone.
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Yeah, DigiCell is in the second link in my last post. I think that's the way I'm going for it. Unfortunately, none of Verizon's Trip Plan stuff works with the 6P, so I can't even try to see if it'll work. I'm going to contact someone there today but I expect no support because they didn't sell the phone.
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Call Verizon and see if you can work out some sort of deal with them that would allow you to roam at a lower cost.
Other than that, the easiest way to go is to pop in one of DigiCell's sim, get yourself a local temporary number, and use VoIP if you want to call home.
Damned fine idea, I contacted them via Chat and they hooked me up. They said that you can just pick a similar spec'd phone in their list to do the Trip Planner stuff and they did it for me. Verified my phone will work in Belize, then gave me the $40 plan add-on for a month per line.
This is almost the same as we did in Mexico last year.
100 talk minutes, 100 texts, 100MB of data. Feels like the 90's again... LOL
Thanks again.