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Is there still an extended ROM with WM05?

Just got my device back from "the shop" with a new MB as it had the stuck in bootloader problem. Unless I'm missing something, with WM2005 there's no extended ROM, or, as it used to be called "storage".
Is it that no one has figured out how to unlock the extended ROM yet, or is there no longer such a space in the physical ROM?
8) 8)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33638
You know, the one right at the top of the forum, sticky, can't miss it?

PReDiToR said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33638
You know, the one right at the top of the forum, sticky, can't miss it?
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Yeah, I know about that thread, which was started months ago back when WM2003 was the ppc OS, which did have a unlockable extended ROM. There are only two posts at the end of the thread about unlocking the extended ROM with WM2005. Neither of them confirms anything.
That's why I made a new thread, because there isn't an unlocker for WM2005 yet PReDiToR and I wanted to find out if anyone was working on it.

cool_case said:
Yeah, I know about that thread, which was started months ago back when WM2003 was the ppc OS
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The Universal never ran on anything but WM5. It was marketed as the first WM5 device available.
cool_case said:
That's why I made a new thread, because there isn't an unlocker for WM2005 yet PReDiToR and I wanted to find out if anyone was working on it.
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By "Extended ROM" and "unlocker" do you mean what I think you mean? The 10MB partition that holds operator .CABs that are loaded after a hard reset? And you want to take away the write protect, make it visible and use it as storage?
If we are talking at cross purposes, please let me know.

PReDiToR said:
cool_case said:
Yeah, I know about that thread, which was started months ago back when WM2003 was the ppc OS
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The Universal never ran on anything but WM5. It was marketed as the first WM5 device available.
cool_case said:
That's why I made a new thread, because there isn't an unlocker for WM2005 yet PReDiToR and I wanted to find out if anyone was working on it.
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By "Extended ROM" and "unlocker" do you mean what I think you mean? The 10MB partition that holds operator .CABs that are loaded after a hard reset? And you want to take away the write protect, make it visible and use it as storage?
If we are talking at cross purposes, please let me know.
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My mistake, the Uni always only had WM05. You're right.
Re-read the extended ROM unlocker thread. Got into extended_ROM with Total Commander. Moved all the cab files out of ext_ROM. So, that can still be done in ROM version 1.30.76.
But, I haven't figured out yet how to "see" the extended ROM. In prior versions of the ROM you could see the separate 10MB partition using the memory utility. Haven't been able to do that yet.

You're welcome.
It's a doddle, two files to run, a little registry edit and a reboot.
I called mine "Storage" and after compressing the files I have, this is what it looks like:

Sorry for the mix-up, PReDiToR. The methods in the ext_ROM thread still work for ROM version 1.30.76 to unlock the ext_ROM. (See my edited post above.) I've gotten into the ext_ROM and moved all the cab files out, but I can't "see" this area to use it, though I can see it as empty in Total Commander.
Maybe it's that I need to rename it, but I thought the utility I got from BuzzDev.net renamed it "extended_ROM". Going to fiddle around with it more.

the utility only makes it writable. you still need to edit the registry

The ROM version doesn't have any effect on it. The factory partitions the DOC, we're not altering that setup (yet). If you reflash your device the ExtROM data goes back into the ExtROM and it is all locked up again in the new OS that you installed.
To use this 10MB You need to do three things, and one optional step:
Run Buzz's unlocker.
Make it load in the right boot phase (Reg Edit).
Make it mount as visible (Reg Edit).
Change the name if you want (Reg Edit).
The unlocker is on page 1 of that thread, the registry edits are on page two.
Once you have done those things, do a soft reset (using psShutXP preferably, or wait 5 minutes before pressing the reset pin).

PReDiToR said:
The ROM version doesn't have any effect on it. The factory partitions the DOC, we're not altering that setup (yet). If you reflash your device the ExtROM data goes back into the ExtROM and it is all locked up again in the new OS that you installed.
To use this 10MB You need to do three things, and one optional step:
Run Buzz's unlocker.
Make it load in the right boot phase (Reg Edit).
Make it mount as visible (Reg Edit).
Change the name if you want (Reg Edit).
The unlocker is on page 1 of that thread, the registry edits are on page two.
Once you have done those things, do a soft reset (using psShutXP preferably, or wait 5 minutes before pressing the reset pin).
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It had been so long since I did this before, didn't remember having to do all of those steps.
Got it up and running now with the extra 10 MB of space in extended_ROM. Had to use this version of the registry key edit:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystemStora geManagerAutoLoadTRUEFFS_DOC1]
"Bootphase"=dword:00000002
"Order"=dword:00000001
"LoadFlags"=dword:00000001
"DriverPath"=" Drivers/BuiltIn/TrueFFS1"
Thanks for the help!

If you do the other registry change - MountHidden = 0 - You will see it as another storage card in your file explorer, and changing the name to something else is helpful.
Once you have done these two things the option to install things to the 10MB comes up when you run .CABs.
No problem.

PReDiToR said:
Once you have done these two things the option to install things to the 10MB comes up when you run .CABs.
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Yeah, uninstalled a few things from program memory and installed them in extended_ROM. Had done that before the JJ went down for repair - glad to get an extra few megs of program mem back and have extended_ROM space to spare.
PReDiToR said:
If you do the other registry change - MountHidden = 0 - You will see it as another storage card in your file explorer, and changing the name to something else is helpful.
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Had already done the other registry edit below, but am not able to change the name from extended_ROM2. Not a problem, but a little annoying.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC1]
"MountHidden"=dword:00000000
"Folder"="Extended_ROM"
"PartitionDriver"=""
"Name"=""
"DefaultFileSystem"="FATFS"

Try this, which is straight from my Uni:
Code:
[HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC1]
(Default) = (Value not set)
DefaultFileSystem = FATFS
Folder = Storage
MountHidden = 0x0 (0)
Name =
PartitionDriver =
[HKLM\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\TRUEFFS_DOC1]
(Default) = (Value not set)
BootPhase = 0x2 (2)
DriverPath = Drivers\BuiltIn\TrueFFS1
LoadFlags = 0x1 (1)
Order = 0x1 (1)
This should have it loading at the right time and you can change the name from "Storage" to whatever you want, assuming you haven't changed any of the other DOC settings.
I know when I was playing with the "ShadowROM" (TrueFFS2) I managed to get it in the wrong bootphase and it came up Storage2. I think Buzz posted something about that in another thread.
I wouldn't live with it having the wrong name, I have to get it absolutely right. I spent ages tonight trying to get the WADesktop \Themes folder into \Storage which caused all sorts of problems and registry edits.
My device, my way.
edit: missed a line of code.

PReDiToR said:
Try this, which is straight from my Uni:
Code:
[HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC1]
(Default) = (Value not set)
DefaultFileSystem = FATFS
Folder = Storage
MountHidden = 0x0 (0)
Name =
PartitionDriver =
[HKLM\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad]
(Default) = (Value not set)
BootPhase = 0x2 (2)
DriverPath = Drivers\BuiltIn\TrueFFS1
LoadFlags = 0x1 (1)
Order = 0x1 (1)
This should have it loading at the right time and you can change the name from "Storage" to whatever you want, assuming you haven't changed any of the other DOC settings.
I wouldn't live with it having the wrong name, I have to get it absolutely right. I spent ages tonight trying to get the WADesktop \Themes folder into \Storage which caused all sorts of problems and registry edits.
My device, my way.
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Ok, that registry change got the name of extended_ROM area changed to "storage". Thanks much!!
[Off track, but ... boy, you're right about WADesktop being a pain with which to work. When I changed the name of the extended_ROM to storage, had to change a line in quite a few dock and other files. WAD was much easier to work with when everything you made for your "your way" desktop was contained in the file default.skin. Now, to see or change stuff on your WAD desktop, you have to open up and change a ton of little files. Still, WAD is great stuff. Without it, the desktop is painfully restrictive and way too boring.]
I'm not tackling putting the WAD themes folder into storage. Getting the main WAD files and the WA2 files into storage frees up enough space - as much as my patience can handle.
I'm impressed that you did it, though!
PReDiToR said:
I know when I was playing with the "ShadowROM" (TrueFFS2) I managed to get it in the wrong bootphase and it came up Storage2. I think Buzz posted something about that in another thread.
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What's in the "ShadowROM"? What can you do with it?

Here there be dragons ;-)

PReDiToR said:
Here there be dragons ;-)
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How does one sneak into the cave without them noticing?

Back up before you try this, as the thread says, it usually leads to an unavoidable or sudden hard reset.
ShadowROM.
If you venture in, tell us what you find =)

PReDiToR said:
Back up before you try this, as the thread says, it usually leads to an unavoidable or sudden hard reset.
ShadowROM.
If you venture in, tell us what you find =)
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Hmm ... looks like if you use it, it isn't shadowing the storage memory anymore and on a soft reset it hard resets back to mimic the storage memory. It's kind of like a RAID 1, but not exactly.
Maybe someone will figure out a way to not have it tied to the storage memory any longer and make it usable as an extra storage area.
However, I think it was intended as a backup area. A better hack might be this - finding find a way to use it as a backup for the OS + installed software, with a way to take an image of what's installed on demand. Then, if something gets messed up and you need to restore, you could restore the image you took.

Netcf3.5 issue in Leo

Netcf3.5 isn't preinstalled in oem leo's rom..
all sense ui is standing on netcf2.0
a lot of apps need it,as all we know,to work propertly...
but,installing this version of netframework in our devices the finger friendly menu of
file explorer,menu enhancement and some menus gestures just dissapearing....for good!
i think that we have to find alternatives apps to use in our devices till some solution in this issue rise up....
if we don't want to loose some gestures and menu enhancement....
regards to community Dimitris

i have .net 3.5 installed and do not seem to be having any problems, try hard resetting.

I have also installed .net 3.5, but did not notice anything to disappear or stop working.

dragon_soft said:
i have .net 3.5 installed and do not seem to be having any problems, try hard resetting.
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i have
os version 5.22.21684
manila version 2.519202525.0
rom 1.43.405.1(70124)WWE
and after HR twice the issue is the same...
i tryed even reflashing and HR the rom but the same..nothing changed

What exactly is not working?
I can't check explorer, because I have changed it with Resco Explorer...

I am not having those issues either, must be another 3rd party application that is causing your problem

where did you install netcf?

Also make sure your phone is using the 3.5 as default and not 2.5.
Go here:
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework
Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Next Change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disable 2.0 and enables 3.5.

tboy2000 said:
Also make sure your phone is using the 3.5 as default and not 2.5.
Go here:
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework
Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Next Change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disable 2.0 and enables 3.5.
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thanks for the tip
i reflash the rom and after that works ok...
i didn't manage to find what caused that...
i had installed also in clear rom but the problem was there too...
anyway, it solved
thanks, Dimitris

weather

Is there any way to add some other city which is not on weather list?

+1
would like to know this too!
used to be a xml file for my Kaiser... is it the same for Leo?

I have found solution, and it is working great
http://www.avforums.com/forums/10873219-post863.html

won't install on my O2 HD2. Bug*er

I use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2488224&postcount=73
You just need to get the accuweather code of your city on http://www.accuweather.com/
P.S. it requires .net 3.5 frameworks

I't easy, not e bug. To make it fuction install Framework 3.5:
13. Install Compact Net Framework 3.5 to Make Old Apps Work Again
Some apps you may have used on another phone will not work on the Leo unless you install Compact Net Framework to your phone. Download the cab from the following link and install to Device only - not Storage Card and then reset. http://justpctech.com/PPC/NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab Also make sure your phone is using the 3.5 as default and not 2.5. Go here: HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework. Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Next Change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disables 2.0 and enables 3.5.

kish89 said:
I have found solution, and it is working great
http://www.avforums.com/forums/10873219-post863.html
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Works a treat, thanks!

Excellent! Thank you very much.

BsB tweaks and Framework 3.5

Does anyone have simple instructions on how to install Compact Framework 3.5 on Leo? I need it for BsB Tweaks.

Gargamel29 said:
Does anyone have simple instructions on how to install Compact Framework 3.5 on Leo? I need it for BsB Tweaks.
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Download it from the microsoft website..
connect your phone to the PC via active sync..
Double click the file on your PC.. it will install it on the PC an dthen simultaneously on the Phone.. follow the instructions shown on the phone..

This worked for me:
http://pocketnow.com/how-to/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-to-microsoft-net-compact-framework-35

13. Install Compact Net Framework 3.5 to Make Old Apps Work Again
Some apps you may have used on another phone will not work on the Leo unless you install Compact Net Framework to your phone. Download the cab from the following link and install to Device only - not Storage Card and then reset. http://justpctech.com/PPC/NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab Also make sure your phone is using the 3.5 as default and not 2.0. Go here: HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework. Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Next Change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disables 2.0 and enables 3.5. Also some apps need the file NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm. Here is the link to download the file: http://www.mediafire.com/?ommgm3gz13z Install the NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm.cab to device after you installed NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab and reset./QUOTE]
thats a quote from this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
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Thanks for this. I used the 2 .CAB files which I obtained from the modaco site (still haven't installed a registry editor - my bad).
It worked without issue (apart from when I needed to figure out how to soft reset my HD2!).
I've got BSB tweaks working now.

I previously only installed 1 of these cabs, but i guess there no harm installing both if they serve different purposes.

Problems installing Net Framework
Hi Guys. I've got myself into a bit of a problem here. I downloaded an app. When I came to run it, it crashed saying I needed to install net framwork. OK, so no problem as I thought I had it installed already. I checked my installed programs and I could see it was already installed.
So, I uninstalled the app it and tried to reinstal the cab version of Net Framework. But, as soon as it starts the installation process, I get an error message saying that it's already installed in ROM. I rebooted the device thinking that would sort it, but it didn't,
Worst of all, now a load of other programs don't work because they can't find net framework 3.5
Ooo errr - anyone got any suggestions?
Thanks
Steve

check the registry and follow above directions, make sure it's pointing to 3.5 if already installed and not 2.0

net Framework
Hiya
Thanks for replying. Yes, I did follow the above instructions and yes, I have made sure that the registry is pointing to the correct version before I posted my query.
Any other thoughts
Steve

BSB tweaks error, please help

I've just installed BSB tweaks 1.6 from a thread on this site, but when I come to open it I get an error saying
"An uexpected error has occured in BsBTweaks.exe.
Select quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more information
This application requires a newer version of the Microsoft.NET compact framework that the version installed on this device"
What is the Microsoft.NET Compact Framework and where do I get a newer one?
If I click on details it says
"BsB Tweaks.exe MissingMethodException
This application requires a newer version of the Microsoft.NET compact framework that the version installed on this device"

snerkler said:
I've just installed BSB tweaks 1.6 from a thread on this site, but when I come to open it I get an error saying
"An uexpected error has occured in BsBTweaks.exe.
Select quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more information
This application requires a newer version of the Microsoft.NET compact framework that the version installed on this device"
What is the Microsoft.NET Compact Framework and where do I get a newer one?
If I click on details it says
"BsB Tweaks.exe MissingMethodException
This application requires a newer version of the Microsoft.NET compact framework that the version installed on this device"
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The clue's in the error message (and the 1st post in the BsB Tweaks thread).
You need to download and install .Net 3.5.
I believe there's a link for it in the BsB Tweaks thread.

Hi,
It's in post #41 for some reason, there's a link in post #1 but that doesn't work...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5033199&postcount=41
Cheers,
Gavin

http://rapidshare.com/files/150399830/NETCFv35.rar
and this :
Also make sure your phone is using the 3.5 as default and not 2.0. Go here: HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework. Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Next Change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disables 2.0 and enables 3.5.
lol seems we all answerd same time , i was looking up info while responding

webjunky said:
http://rapidshare.com/files/150399830/NETCFv35.rar
and this :
Also make sure your phone is using the 3.5 as default and not 2.0. Go here: HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework. Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Next Change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disables 2.0 and enables 3.5.
lol seems we all answerd same time , i was looking up info while responding
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err, what language is that? I'm afraid I'm only a beginner

Gavinbat said:
Hi,
It's in post #41 for some reason, there's a link in post #1 but that doesn't work...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5033199&postcount=41
Cheers,
Gavin
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I've downloaded this and unzipped it and I have loads of files, what do I do with these now?

Oh, and what is this "manila" I keep reading about? I've googled it and can only find info on the city or web publishing systems

Hi,
Copy the .cab to your phone memory card, then install it from there
Mannila, still not sure myself only got phone yesterday pm!
Cheers,
Gavin

Gavinbat said:
Hi,
Copy the .cab to your phone memory card, then install it from there
Mannila, still not sure myself only got phone yesterday pm!
Cheers,
Gavin
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I didn't get a .cab file like normal, just got a heap of files, system files, NET files, Mscore files, whatever the hell those are?

snerkler said:
I didn't get a .cab file like normal, just got a heap of files, system files, NET files, Mscore files, whatever the hell those are?
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Snerkler,
Your learning curve is a steep one but let's battle on.
I have just gone to the same thread/post and downloaded the file you should have downloaded. If that's not what you have, go back and download the correct file type. Its a zipped file with a load of other files in it. This type of zipped file is called a cab file.
Connect your phone to your pc via activsync (read the manual, it tells you how), then copy this cab file (do not extract it, just copy it across as it is) to your phone.
Next, open file explorer on your phone (you will find this tool if you click Start at the top left of your phone and scroll down), find the cab file, double tap on it and it will install.
Job done.
WB
PS: Don't forget to get into the habit of posting in existing threads to get specific answers. So for BSB Tweaks, post in that thread. Chances are your query has already been answered in that thread.
Keep going, any more questions, come right back.
WB
PPS: manilla is the flashy fancy interface on your device that gives you all those beautiful weather animations. It is HTC's attempt to make the device more presentable and user friendly than just using the plain old windows mobile interface, which is well past its sell-by date.

snerkler said:
I didn't get a .cab file like normal, just got a heap of files, system files, NET files, Mscore files, whatever the hell those are?
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Use the one that Gavinbat suggested above...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5344140&postcount=3
And ignore the stuff about editing the registry. Don't worry about that. Just install the cab on your device and then BsB Tweaks will work.

wacky.banana said:
Snerkler,
Your learning curve is a steep one but let's battle on.
I have just gone to the same thread/post and downloaded the file you should have downloaded. If that's not what you have, go back and download the correct file type. Its a zipped file with a load of other files in it. This type of zipped file is called a cab file.
Connect your phone to your pc via activsync (read the manual, it tells you how), then copy this cab file (do not extract it, just copy it across as it is) to your phone.
Next, open file explorer on your phone (you will find this tool if you click Start at the top left of your phone and scroll down), find the cab file, double tap on it and it will install.
Job done.
WB
PS: Don't forget to get into the habit of posting in existing threads to get specific answers. So for BSB Tweaks, post in that thread. Chances are your query has already been answered in that thread.
Keep going, any more questions, come right back.
WB
PPS: manilla is the flashy fancy interface on your device that gives you all those beautiful weather animations. It is HTC's attempt to make the device more presentable and user friendly than just using the plain old windows mobile interface, which is well past its sell-by date.
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Thanks. Got the .cab file this time. I have no trouble installing .cab files but for somereason it didn't extract first time, therefore I thought I had to do something with all the other files :-/
I've got BsB tweaks up and running now, but it still doesn't seem to function properly. It doesn't seem to have changed opera in the sense that I still can't click links unless I zoom in. I do have the opera link click turned on.
Also when I check the boxes for the programs I want to use rotation for they uncheck themselves everytime I leave the menu. I will have a look at that BSB tweaks thread and see if anyone else has had these issues.

snerkler said:
Also when I check the boxes for the programs I want to use rotation for they uncheck themselves everytime I leave the menu. I will have a look at that BSB tweaks thread and see if anyone else has had these issues.
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You definitely need to read up on BsB, because you're expecting something that's not correct.
Just spend some time reading the thread - there's a lot of help in there, so don't just skip to the end
Glad you got it running at least

Hi
I read this thread a couple of times and still didn't get it right.
Can you please help me?
i downloaded all the needed files. first i installed Net 3.5. than i restarted and then i installed the BsB Tweaks cab file and then i restarted the phone again. when i tryed to activate the BsB Tweaks app it gave me the the error you have been talking about here, and i can't get past this problem...
any suggestions?