Hi,
As some user complain about speed of this marvellous object, HTC Blackstone (HD), I want to give some advice and method to speed up the tools.
So, first, when I had opened my phone, start using it, it crash 4 times just during the simple first usage (cross around TouchFlo 3D) ... I was afraid that this phone doesn't work pretty well comparing to the price, but
the system is nearly the same that the Diamond, with more memory (200 mb against 128 mb for diamond !), it change everything !
I have start to go on the forum and find a perle for tweaking, add to my tweak, it's great !
So, first of all, we need to install ".NET Compact 3.5", because by default on official first rom (I have the 1.14), it come with ".NET Compact 2.0" which is know to be slower than the "3.5" version.
So, go there : Microsoft .NET Compact 3.5
Install it on your phone (Internal of course, not Storage card)
After, install TCMD or any registry tools to change registry value
TCMD Web Site
Open it, go to "\\Registry\HKLM\Software\Microsoft\.NETCompactFramework"
You have 2 entry :
2.0.7045.00
and
3.5.7283.00
So edit the 2.0, change value from "1" to "0"
and edit the 3.5, change value from "0" to "1"
Ok, now .NETCompact 3.5 is the default one.
After that, and before reboot, go on this thread
and take this cab : tnyynt SD TuneUP.cab
Install it, it will tune up your memory access to the storage card and global speed.
After that, install AdvancedConfig 3.3 from here
Open it (now it work with .NET 3.5 ),
Go to performance :
Change that value :
System Cache : Activated
System Cache Size : 0 (Auto)
Filter system file size : 16384
Glyph cache : 128 ko
Save and reboot
Now you system is full optimized, and work really well (crash doesn't occur any more or really really rarely, and speed is really apreciable).
This tweak work on diamond, but with too few memory, it's hard to use well the phone after, with all this memory and this nice HD, it's marvellous !
Hop this tweak will be sticked thanks everybody for this great forum,
hop HD will be explore like diamond in not too long time
Enjoy
Here 2 tricks to enjoy more :
First : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461228 (Dutty rom, great idea to use it )
Second : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3059269&postcount=3 (post 3 of dutty rom !), a great improvement for 3D capability of your HTC, a real Direct 3D Drivers. Just try, and report your feeling
Here a trick for CorePlayer :
They is an option in coreplayer for extra speed. They help a lot when you have a big video who lag a little.
So
Menu > Tools > Preferences > Select Page > Buffering > Microdrive mode
Check it
They will grow up cache size and other think, so report back your experience on it.
Netcfcfg
Hi,
To configure NETCF you can use Netcfconfig tool, no need to modify the registry.
You can find it in Raissak's Cabcorner:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398050
Laurentius26 said:
Hi,
To configure NETCF you can use Netcfconfig tool, no need to modify the registry.
You can find it in Raissak's Cabcorner:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398050
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Thanks for this
I suppose this cab do the same tweak ?
Thanks... testing it right now
Yes it does, but it has much more options.
For example you can run apps individual in Netcf 2.0 or 3.5.
geistteufel said:
Thanks for this
I suppose this cab do the same tweak ?
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I've done those tweaks, waiting for the last reboot... will give feedback !
Thanx a lot
hey guys how do we set net config?
hykhleif said:
hey guys how do we set net config?
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for ? to use 3.5 by defaut or more ?
for this one, just follow my tut
Many thanks for this!
Wasn't aware of the .NET CF tweak.. which apps are likely to gain from this?
Does this also result in a memory saving - as running apps all use the latest version and the old one isn't loaded into memory?
dsm52 said:
Many thanks for this!
Wasn't aware of the .NET CF tweak.. which apps are likely to gain from this?
Does this also result in a memory saving - as running apps all use the latest version and the old one isn't loaded into memory?
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All apps on windows mobile use .NET, (I'm not sure but I think that), AdvancedConfig use that ...
So .NET 3.5 improve speed, memory usage and more. It's really good to use it, less crash, more speed, less memory, so any think is good for that
By the way, on diamond any cooked rom use it as a default one, and have deinstall the 2.0 version.
We can't do that there, we can just set 3.5 as the default.
A question: Why don't HTC use the version 3.5 on this "new" phone rather than version 2 (that sounds quite old) ?
In my opinion the HTC Standard Software ist not working with .NetFramework, so HTC is not interested in trying out something "new"... Maybe they will activate Framework 3.5 in a new Firmware Update.
Could this be the reason? Am I correct in saying, that not all the Software uses NetFramework? So the Speedboost will work only with some special Software.
fasty said:
A question: Why don't HTC use the version 3.5 on this "new" phone rather than version 2 (that sounds quite old) ?
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Because they don't use it at all in their package ! so why installing a more rescent version when you use a old one ?
did you see htc optimize setting for best experience ? it's the same think
it's better and faster to do it yourself
Have done some Benchmark.
VSBenchmark07 told me (nearly) the same old score. So no boost for this application.
VSBenchmark tests: Write/Read speed, Memory Acess, Graphic Performance, Sound Performance, Game Performance (?)
Weird.. my HD performs much better with NETCF3.5 installed.
Can you post the benchmarks please?
Koffein Schluck said:
Have done some Benchmark.
VSBenchmark07 told me (nearly) the same old score. So no boost for this application.
VSBenchmark tests: Write/Read speed, Memory Acess, Graphic Performance, Sound Performance, Game Performance (?)
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After some Soft Resets my device performs also faster, my ultimate Benchmark score is 2642, whats yours ?
Before the Update my Device had a score of ~2300
Edit: You must run VGAFix to crop the display resolution, the Benchmark is not designed for WVGA displays....
i know this sounds daft....but how do you install 3.5 on your phone.....i downloaded it from microsoft and copied it to the phone.... but it wont let me install it.... I know im doing something completely stupid but what???
shakie_uk said:
i know this sounds daft....but how do you install 3.5 on your phone.....i downloaded it from microsoft and copied it to the phone.... but it wont let me install it.... I know im doing something completely stupid but what???
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It is a MSI file, so connect your phone to the PC, run ActiveSync and then run the MSI file on your Desktop Computer! Dont run it on the PDA ><
Koffein Schluck said:
It is a MSI file, so connect your phone to the PC, run ActiveSync and then run the MSI file on your Desktop Computer! Dont run it on the PDA ><
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cheers! How stupid of me. thanx... all done
Hi,
Interesting thread, I'd like to have a go at this Hope I can get some help though...
I obviously want to start at the beginning; installing .NET FrameWork 3.5. My first question is in regards to installing this .NET 3.5 without using ActiveSync, Microsoft tells people this is possible:
"If you are not using ActiveSync, run the CAB files on the device that correspond to the device–specific CAB files found in the install folder."
Upon installing .NET FrameWork 3.5 on my laptop, I can find the following .CAB files in the install folder:
NETCFv35.Messages.EN.cab
NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm.cab
NETCFv35.ppc.armv4.cab
NETCFv35.wce.armv4.cab
NETCFv35.wce.mipsii.cab
NETCFv35.wce.mipsiv.cab
NETCFv35.wce.sh4.cab
NETCFv35.wce.x86.cab
NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab
(and some other ones for different languages)
Can anyone tell me which of these .CAB's I need for installing .NET FrameWork 3.5 on my Touch HD WWE I'd be much abliged for any assistance on this matter...
Regards,
Rolf (35, m, The Netherlands)
Netcf3.5 isn't preinstalled in oem leo's rom..
all sense ui is standing on netcf2.0
a lot of apps need it,as all we know,to work propertly...
but,installing this version of netframework in our devices the finger friendly menu of
file explorer,menu enhancement and some menus gestures just dissapearing....for good!
i think that we have to find alternatives apps to use in our devices till some solution in this issue rise up....
if we don't want to loose some gestures and menu enhancement....
regards to community Dimitris
i have .net 3.5 installed and do not seem to be having any problems, try hard resetting.
I have also installed .net 3.5, but did not notice anything to disappear or stop working.
dragon_soft said:
i have .net 3.5 installed and do not seem to be having any problems, try hard resetting.
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i have
os version 5.22.21684
manila version 2.519202525.0
rom 1.43.405.1(70124)WWE
and after HR twice the issue is the same...
i tryed even reflashing and HR the rom but the same..nothing changed
What exactly is not working?
I can't check explorer, because I have changed it with Resco Explorer...
I am not having those issues either, must be another 3rd party application that is causing your problem
where did you install netcf?
Also make sure your phone is using the 3.5 as default and not 2.5.
Go here:
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework
Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Next Change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disable 2.0 and enables 3.5.
tboy2000 said:
Also make sure your phone is using the 3.5 as default and not 2.5.
Go here:
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework
Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Next Change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disable 2.0 and enables 3.5.
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thanks for the tip
i reflash the rom and after that works ok...
i didn't manage to find what caused that...
i had installed also in clear rom but the problem was there too...
anyway, it solved
thanks, Dimitris
Does anyone have simple instructions on how to install Compact Framework 3.5 on Leo? I need it for BsB Tweaks.
Gargamel29 said:
Does anyone have simple instructions on how to install Compact Framework 3.5 on Leo? I need it for BsB Tweaks.
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Download it from the microsoft website..
connect your phone to the PC via active sync..
Double click the file on your PC.. it will install it on the PC an dthen simultaneously on the Phone.. follow the instructions shown on the phone..
This worked for me:
http://pocketnow.com/how-to/tutorial-how-to-upgrade-to-microsoft-net-compact-framework-35
13. Install Compact Net Framework 3.5 to Make Old Apps Work Again
Some apps you may have used on another phone will not work on the Leo unless you install Compact Net Framework to your phone. Download the cab from the following link and install to Device only - not Storage Card and then reset. http://justpctech.com/PPC/NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab Also make sure your phone is using the 3.5 as default and not 2.0. Go here: HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework. Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Next Change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disables 2.0 and enables 3.5. Also some apps need the file NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm. Here is the link to download the file: http://www.mediafire.com/?ommgm3gz13z Install the NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm.cab to device after you installed NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab and reset./QUOTE]
thats a quote from this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
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Thanks for this. I used the 2 .CAB files which I obtained from the modaco site (still haven't installed a registry editor - my bad).
It worked without issue (apart from when I needed to figure out how to soft reset my HD2!).
I've got BSB tweaks working now.
I previously only installed 1 of these cabs, but i guess there no harm installing both if they serve different purposes.
Problems installing Net Framework
Hi Guys. I've got myself into a bit of a problem here. I downloaded an app. When I came to run it, it crashed saying I needed to install net framwork. OK, so no problem as I thought I had it installed already. I checked my installed programs and I could see it was already installed.
So, I uninstalled the app it and tried to reinstal the cab version of Net Framework. But, as soon as it starts the installation process, I get an error message saying that it's already installed in ROM. I rebooted the device thinking that would sort it, but it didn't,
Worst of all, now a load of other programs don't work because they can't find net framework 3.5
Ooo errr - anyone got any suggestions?
Thanks
Steve
check the registry and follow above directions, make sure it's pointing to 3.5 if already installed and not 2.0
net Framework
Hiya
Thanks for replying. Yes, I did follow the above instructions and yes, I have made sure that the registry is pointing to the correct version before I posted my query.
Any other thoughts
Steve
i installed BsB tweats on my HD2 with Rom version 1.48.832.1 (71294)CHT. however, when i press the icon it pops up with an error message where it says (missingmethodexception) could anyone please help?
Notes: my phone is in Chinese, could that be the reason?
I'm not very familiar with the program (haven't used it), but it's possible that it won't work for a Chinese language ROM. But, it could simply be that you might need .net 3.5 installed.
i am sorry mate...i am kind of retarded on this kind of things, can you tell me what exactly is .net 3.5? i have a feeling this is probably the reason.
terrancewonga said:
i am sorry mate...i am kind of retarded on this kind of things, can you tell me what exactly is .net 3.5? i have a feeling this is probably the reason.
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This is a must to your device prior to installing many programs andyou can get it here....
13. Install Compact Net Framework 3.5 to Make Old Apps Work Again
Some apps you may have used on another phone will not work on the Leo unless you install Compact Net Framework to your phone. Download the cab from the following link and install to Device only - not Storage Card and then reset. http://justpctech.com/PPC/NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab Also make sure your phone is using the 3.5 as default and not 2.0. Go here: HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework. Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Next Change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disables 2.0 and enables 3.5. Also some apps need the file NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm. Here is the link to download the file: http://www.mediafire.com/?ommgm3gz13z Install the NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm.cab to device after you installed NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab and reset.
you know when it saids 'go here: HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework' where exactly is it? is it the window folder in the device?
and also, when it said change the DWORD data from 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0, does it mean change the whole thing to 1 or some numbers ie: 2.0.7045.01? i would be very appreciate it if you could educate me.
terrancewonga said:
and also, when it said change the DWORD data from 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0, does it mean change the whole thing to 1 or some numbers ie: 2.0.7045.01? i would be very appreciate it if you could educate me.
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Follow these instructions, it will be easier for you:
http://tiltmobility.com/how-to-install-net-compact-framework-35/
terrancewonga said:
and also, when it said change the DWORD data from 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0, does it mean change the whole thing to 1 or some numbers ie: 2.0.7045.01? i would be very appreciate it if you could educate me.
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you dont have to do all that, all you got do install the cab...i have attached it to you. If you want read about it just type it in wikipedia and you need time to read
download it from here the same thread as the bsb, have a look in the first post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=589305
thank you very very very much! it works now! thanks a lot! appreciate it!^^
Hi guys,
recently my HD2 just didn't want to work anymore. Basically it was "on" and plugged via USB to my computer and when I came back by some time, it was completely "off". I tried to activate it but did not succeed to get further then the white screen, whatever I tried.
Result: hard reset.
As I saw that there is an official ROM which was newer than mine I downloaded 1.66er ROM from htc.com.
Everything wet well until I wanted to start Task Fascade. TF tells me: "For this application is a newer version of the Microsoft .NET Compact Framework required" (translated from german to english)
Okay, easy go, I downloaded the 3.5er version of the .NET framework and tried to install the CAB but the installer complains too:"The .NET Compact Framework-Version you are trying to install is already contained in the ROM" (message has also been translated from german to english)
Now I was confused, obviously the 3.5er version is already installed. So I did some search and found (once more) help on this page: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
13. Install Compact Net Framework 3.5 to Make Old Apps Work Again
Some apps you may have used on another phone will not work on the Leo unless you install Compact Net Framework to your phone. Download the cab from the following link and install to Device only - not Storage Card and then reset. [...] Also make sure your phone is using the 3.5 as default and not 2.0. Go here: HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework. Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Next Change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disables 2.0 and enables 3.5. Also some apps need the file NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm. Here is the link to download the file: [...] Install the NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm.cab to device after you installed NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab and reset.
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I did everything I could and double checked the registry entries, rebooted several times but achieved nothing. TF still says the .NET version is too old and the 3.5 installer complains that 3.5 is already installed.
I need some help now