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**HELP**Downgrading MyTouch/Magic to 1.5 to root

I got my mytouch(the older one, the one without the headphone jack). I have been trying to root it ever since then. but I can not do it at all.
1. I can not access my phone through adb NO MATTER WHAT, I have tried this in xp,7 and ubuntu. I always get no device found, but in fastboot mode, it is able to pick it up!!! Is there something that I need to enable on the phone? Or should the phone be in any special mode?
2. I have tried to downgrade to 1.5 using the sapimg, but it did not work at all. I would not mind using the goldcard method even though I have been advised not to do so. Even If I chose to use the gold card method, I could not do so since my adb method is not working properly!!!
Also my mytouch is unlocked, if that makes any difference.

vz2487 said:
I got my mytouch(the older one, the one without the headphone jack). I have been trying to root it ever since then. but I can not do it at all.
1. I can not access my phone through adb NO MATTER WHAT, I have tried this in xp,7 and ubuntu. I always get no device found, but in fastboot mode, it is able to pick it up!!! Is there something that I need to enable on the phone? Or should the phone be in any special mode?
2. I have tried to downgrade to 1.5 using the sapimg, but it did not work at all. I would not mind using the goldcard method even though I have been advised not to do so. Even If I chose to use the gold card method, I could not do so since my adb method is not working properly!!!
Also my mytouch is unlocked, if that makes any difference.
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do you have debugging mode on.. on the phone go to setting>application>development..turn on debugging mode... and do u have androidsdk set up??
p.s. go check out unlockr.com for a how to root they have videos

ADB works
Thanks, ADB works. Now I just need to get the phone rooted. I had no idea that it had to be enabled!!!
As for unlocker.com it does not work, its a spam site. I am going to try to root it again.

vz2487 said:
Thanks, ADB works. Now I just need to get the phone rooted. I had no idea that it had to be enabled!!!
As for unlocker.com it does not work, its a spam site. I am going to try to root it again.
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What is the error you are getting while trying to root using sampping.nbh?
I rooted my phone using unlockr.com, so unless you can prove things, dont start making statements about them.

vz2487 said:
I got my mytouch(the older one, the one without the headphone jack). I have been trying to root it ever since then. but I can not do it at all.
1. I can not access my phone through adb NO MATTER WHAT, I have tried this in xp,7 and ubuntu. I always get no device found, but in fastboot mode, it is able to pick it up!!! Is there something that I need to enable on the phone? Or should the phone be in any special mode?
2. I have tried to downgrade to 1.5 using the sapimg, but it did not work at all. I would not mind using the goldcard method even though I have been advised not to do so. Even If I chose to use the gold card method, I could not do so since my adb method is not working properly!!!
Also my mytouch is unlocked, if that makes any difference.
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What is this to do with development?>??
FFS everyone of you guys that has never posted before just starts a new thread because you cannot figure out what your doing
there are forums for you but they are not here!

ayush20m said:
What is the error you are getting while trying to root using sampping.nbh?
I rooted my phone using unlockr.com, so unless you can prove things, dont start making statements about them.
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These are the errors I am getting:
"model ID incorrect
update Fail!"
Also are you talking about theunlockr.com/? If you are then its a good site, has nice videos. Thats where I did most of my research.

vz2487 said:
Thanks, ADB works. Now I just need to get the phone rooted. I had no idea that it had to be enabled!!!
As for unlocker.com it does not work, its a spam site. I am going to try to root it again.
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its not theunlocker.com its theunlockr.com <<< no "e" before the "r"
o yea sorry i didnt add the "the" before

vz2487 said:
These are the errors I am getting:
"model ID incorrect
update Fail!"
Also are you talking about theunlockr.com/? If you are then its a good site, has nice videos. Thats where I did most of my research.
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This means your phone came pre installed with 1.6, you will have to use goldcard. There is no other way to root your phone.

Provide your phone information through fastboot. Turn off your phone, do back+power, then write your SPL (e.g 1.33.0004), radio (e.g. 2.22.19.26I), stuff like that is all on there. Then you can turn off your phone by holding down power again

do I need s=off for cyanogenmod 7?

I have ROM manager premium, and I just downloaded CM7 through it, and was about to flash it, but remembered I dont have s=off.
Also, I cannot get past this screen no matter what. htt p://img145.imageshack.us/i/20110222142411.jpg/
Any help will be appreaciated I really want to be able to run CM7

You need to be rooted, use the ultimate gfree method that's stickie in the development section after you root make sure to back up your stock OS.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

epsix said:
You need to be rooted, use the ultimate gfree method that's stickie in the development section after you root make sure to back up your stock OS.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
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Thanks for answering, but I am rooted, I used the visionary perm-root method. I have terminal emulator and typed "su" and it prompted for super user access. I also have a few apps that use root, which work.

Root access alone is not enough. You need S-Off as well.

jggimi said:
Root access alone is not enough. You need S-Off as well.
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Is that why I always get this screen when I try to make a back up or boot into recovery.

jggimi said:
Root access alone is not enough. You need S-Off as well.
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This Statement is correct.
jessek17 said:
Thanks for answering, but I am rooted, I used the visionary perm-root method. I have terminal emulator and typed "su" and it prompted for super user access. I also have a few apps that use root, which work.
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for short terms "s" Means security protocol. If your S=ON that means the phone will do a search each time you boot the phone on to see if anything as been tampered with. and if it has it will revert back to a factory status. Just like you first bought the phone. Which includes rooting, recovery images, boot images, engineering screens. What ever you do to your phone that isn't factory will be undone.
It is impossible to do. Because you need to flash the ROM from the recovery image. And since one you boot your phone it will replace Clockwork ROM manager with the factory style recovery image, you cannot not even get to the place you need to flash it from.

jessek17 said:
Is that why I always get this screen when I try to make a back up or boot into recovery.
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Correct because you flashing the Clockwork Recovery image will not STICK unless you have s=off.
They system will replace the aftermarket image with the original EVERYTIME you turn off the phone.

That is the Stock Recovery. You need S-Off and ClockworkMod Recovery. And the right release of CWM Recovery, also. Use CWM Recovery 2.x to back up, restore, and install Android 2.2 (Froyo) based ROMs, including stock, and CWM Recovery 3.x to back up, restore, and install Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) based ROMs, such as CM7.
There is a special version of CWM Recovery that can manage both Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs: 3.0.0.6. Search for it in the Development subforum.

Thanks for all the information, I am slowly learning, and trying to understand all of this.
I am currently trying to get s=off. I found this link via google : ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I am already "rooted" I believe, because I have superuser access. Should I unroot first?
Also, in order to back up my current(stock) rom, do I need to use clockwork recovery 2.x?

jessek17 said:
Thanks for all the information, I am slowly learning, and trying to understand all of this.
I am currently trying to get s=off. I found this link via google : ht tp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I am already "rooted" I believe, because I have superuser access. Should I unroot first?
Also, in order to back up my current(stock) rom, do I need to use clockwork recovery 2.x?
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Yes that method will work.
no do not unroot prior to starting that method
yes you need to use 2.x to back up froyo (2.2) ROMs.

neidlinger said:
Yes that method will work.
no do not unroot prior to starting that method
yes you need to use 2.x to back up froyo (2.2) ROMs.
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Okay, is there a simpler way to get s=off? That looks a little complex for my first time doing this, and it seems as if one typo will brick my phone.

jessek17 said:
Okay, is there a simpler way to get s=off? That looks a little complex for my first time doing this, and it seems as if one typo will brick my phone.
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http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/how-to-temporarily-root-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/
you can use the link i posted ^^^ there.
I will state this though. That link that you posted is the simplest way of truly rooting your phone. If that seem complex i would advice against you doing it at this point in time.
Rooting your phone basically turns your phone into a computer that can make and receive phone calls. And doing the wrong thing at the wrong time will seriously FUBAR your phone.
If you take a look in the Q&A section and the General Section you will see TONS of post with people in your shoes that didn't know what they were getting into and didn't take the warning laid out there.
READ READ READ about the android ADB before you decide to root your phone. And learn what everything is and what it does.
not trying to sound like a "Richard" but i don't want to see you mess up your phone either.

neidlinger said:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/how-to-temporarily-root-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/
you can use the link i posted ^^^ there.
I will state this though. That link that you posted is the simplest way of truly rooting your phone. If that seem complex i would advice against you doing it at this point in time.
Rooting your phone basically turns your phone into a computer that can make and receive phone calls. And doing the wrong thing at the wrong time will seriously FUBAR your phone.
If you take a look in the Q&A section and the General Section you will see TONS of post with people in your shoes that didn't know what they were getting into and didn't take the warning laid out there.
READ READ READ about the android ADB before you decide to root your phone. And learn what everything is and what it does.
not trying to sound like a "Richard" but i don't want to see you mess up your phone either.
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Isnt that just a video of temprooting and then confirming the root with terminal emulator?
I have seen many people with problems and they think they bricked their phone. I dont want to be one of them, and I've had a few close calls, and I'll tell you it wasnt fun.
From what I see ADB is just a remote terminal?
I appreciate that, and have taken the warnings very seriously.

jessek17 said:
Isnt that just a video of temprooting and then confirming the root with terminal emulator?
I have seen many people with problems and they think they bricked their phone. I dont want to be one of them, and I've had a few close calls, and I'll tell you it wasnt fun.
From what I see ADB is just a remote terminal?
I appreciate that, and have taken the warnings very seriously.
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That's kind of my point. People don't read.
If you take your time and read and do the entire process you won't have a problem. but you need to read all the way through something prior to jumping in the ring. There is a very strict set a rules that need to be followed.

To root or not to root?

So over the past few days I have been doing alot of research on rooting my phone. I have watched videos and read almost every thread concerning it. I understand the advantages and disadvantages of it. I have never done this before, but I am more than competent enough to follow the directions. I have taken it as far as using visionary and temp rooting my phone. I have a file manager downloaded, and a terminal emulator downloaded. If I go through with it I plan on following the directions in the thread using the gfree method. Ok, with that being said, my only real question is..if I follow the directions, obviously making sure my phone is charged as well, what are the chances of me bricking my phone? Is it incompetence that will create a brick? Or is it something that following the directions correctly will easily avoid?

just do it. -nike
follow directions and youll be fine. thats what i did

Yeah, it's pretty hard to brick your phone. One word of caution though: if you decide to flash the engineering bootloader, screwing up that command WILL brick your phone. Check it, re-check it, and do it over again just to be sure you've typed it properly.

Yea, not trying to get that in depth into it, just want to run some STABLE custom ROM's. I have spent the past 2 hours setting up adb and getting my phone to accept commands. Starting to get comfortable with that. I am really new to all of this, so I am trying to learn as much as I can before I jump into it.

UPDATE: Just need a couple more people to chime in on this. Like I said, I have ADB setup, my phone is accepting commands (rebooted over adb to test) I have visionary, I can temp root with no problem. I have read over the instructions, and understand them fully. I am not going to flash the engineering bootloader, just want to permroot to flash custom rom's and delete bloatware and such. So just doing permroot, is there a chance I can brick my phone?

as long flash a revovery image. And dont mess with the radio file you should be okay.
Cyanogen Powered; Android designed

Alright, thanks for the help, I am obviously a noob...Flashing the recovery is done right on the ROM Manager App right? And there is no way to accidentally mess with the radio?

lowandbehold said:
Alright, thanks for the help, I am obviously a noob...Flashing the recovery is done right on the ROM Manager App right? And there is no way to accidentally mess with the radio?
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yes it can be done with clockwork ROM manager.
And no the radio has to be done on purpose.
Cyanogen Powered; Android designed

Thanks for the help, It took me 2 days but I grew a pair and did it. Followed the directions on the guide and worked perfectly. Deleted Visionary, rebooted into hboot and have S off, went into my terminal emulator and still have superuser access. Thanks again!

lowandbehold said:
Thanks for the help, It took me 2 days but I grew a pair and did it. Followed the directions on the guide and worked perfectly. Deleted Visionary, rebooted into hboot and have S off, went into my terminal emulator and still have superuser access. Thanks again!
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You really should flash the Engineering bootloader. It makes it harder to brick your device in the future.

It took a bunch of reading, but I rooted my phone and my wife's phone using the gfree method, and installed the engineering bootloader.
Then, a month or so later, I upgraded to CM7. CM7, while still beta, is tons better than the stock firmware. I was going to do Ice Glacier, but developement stopped on it, and ultimately I wanted to be on CM anyway.
Better battery life, tons more features, no reason to complain.
Just do it. TMO should make CM stock on these phones.

possibiltiy of root for 2.2... had a breakthrough right now

ok im not a expert on this rooting ****... bt i got my motherboard replaced.. and therefore got 2.2 so started messing around with my phone... and stumbled across many things.. one of them was super 1 click
i think i got a temproot using the app called super 1 click.... i use the shell root option under it... and then went to cmd... and when i typed adb shell i got a '#' sign and not a '$' sign... now that has to mean something...
plz if anyone can help further...

pyroblazer said:
ok im not a expert on this rooting ****... bt i got my motherboard replaced.. and therefore got 2.2 so started messing around with my phone... and stumbled across many things.. one of them was super 1 click
i think i got a temproot using the app called super 1 click.... i use the shell root option under it... and then went to cmd... and when i typed adb shell i got a '#' sign and not a '$' sign... now that has to mean something...
plz if anyone can help further...
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temp root was already achieved by someone earlier using psneuter (or however u spell it). This isnt really a breakthrough since there's still no way to flash a recovery.

Well... in that case I'm sry.. I wasn't aware bout this... bt jus my curiosity.. is there a way to flash a custom Rom 4m adb or shell without.. using recovery.. or is there a way to sign clockwork.img in such a way that we could install it using adb??? I mean I tried replacing the current boot image.. bt gave me the error of system read only.. so its obviously not possible to replace it.. bt what if we could make our phone belive that the recovery img that we are installing is actually of an official ruu???.. it might work.... again I don't have much experience in rooting except using unrevoked...
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

this has been said soooo many times.....
with 2.2 you can still soft root, and you can even downgrade to 2.1
but there's always the new HBOOT and so you can not flash Unrevoked
sorry but with 2.2 you are simply lost

pyroblazer said:
Well... in that case I'm sry.. I wasn't aware bout this... bt jus my curiosity.. is there a way to flash a custom Rom 4m adb or shell without.. using recovery.. or is there a way to sign clockwork.img in such a way that we could install it using adb??? I mean I tried replacing the current boot image.. bt gave me the error of system read only.. so its obviously not possible to replace it.. bt what if we could make our phone belive that the recovery img that we are installing is actually of an official ruu???.. it might work.... again I don't have much experience in rooting except using unrevoked...
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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What you're saying needs NAND unlock (S-off) which defeats the point of this, since if we had it there would be no problem in the first place.
sure you can say that we can try to make our phone "believe", but how? that's like the center of the problem, if you've done any research. we can't modify the HBOOT without messing up HTC's signature, which means the HBOOT would no longer be accepted to be flashed. what else CAN we modify? this is not end user stuff at all, hence the need for advanced exploits like rageagainstthecage.

[q] delete this?

Ok people, this is not my first post, although it says it is. I used to be on here and a few other sites as ldawg214. I've done some things but alas I quit for awhile and can't remember my old password (so if any mods can help me there that would be cool.) But the reason for this post is that I'm trying to get a custom rom on my mytouch 4g with 2.3.4 Gingerbread. I know I need to downgrade to froyo using adb but the files fre3vo and misc_version_01 are just blank data files. I don't know if they are supposed to be like that but everything I've searched for on this is at least 3 years old. I've gone ahead and tried adb but it always just tells me the the file or directory doesn't exist. Does anyone know if this method still works?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
Starting to feel like this is impossible and I know what I'm doing lol.

luda214 said:
Ok people, this is not my first post, although it says it is. I used to be on here and a few other sites as ldawg214. I've done some things but alas I quit for awhile and can't remember my old password (so if any mods can help me there that would be cool.) But the reason for this post is that I'm trying to get a custom rom on my mytouch 4g with 2.3.4 Gingerbread. I know I need to downgrade to froyo using adb but the files fre3vo and misc_version_01 are just blank data files. I don't know if they are supposed to be like that but everything I've searched for on this is at least 3 years old. I've gone ahead and tried adb but it always just tells me the the file or directory doesn't exist. Does anyone know if this method still works?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
Starting to feel like this is impossible and I know what I'm doing lol.
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Haven't rooted a glacier in a while. But I'll try to help you. Here's a link to the rooting process. I've always used gfree. If you need any files let me know and I'll upload them.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_glacier#Rooting_the_HTC_Glacier

Thank you so much but it turns out I was just missing a few steps (as usual) lol. So I am now perm rooted with s=off. I think that's all I have to do and now I can flash a custom rom. That's what I'm on my way to do now. Thank you again.

luda214 said:
Thank you so much but it turns out I was just missing a few steps (as usual) lol. So I am now perm rooted with s=off. I think that's all I have to do and now I can flash a custom rom. That's what I'm on my way to do now. Thank you again.
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Okay, I think this can be deleted. I've got s off and installed sabsa_prime and so far it's working great. If anyone sees this though, after all that root checker basic says that the phone doesn't have root access.........WHAT??? How is that possible?