Hey, I just got my Hermes w/ cooked WM6 (yay), but i have T-mobile, which for all intents and purposes has no internet (boo). So, I was wondering what the best network to switch over to would be. I know Verizon's fastest service is EV-DO, which the hermes doesnt suppport, while AT&T/Cingular has HSDPA, which the Hermes does. However, I live in teh suburbs outside of New York City, so I'm wondering if I will ever see these anyway. Should I lean toward the HSDPA, or just go with whoever has the better 3G reception and prices?
I use tmobile US gprs/edge internet access all the time...(CA & NV area)
No 3G yet, but tmobile is working on it...
Thing is that i do alot of streaming music, so by my understanding edge would not really be sufficient. really hoping for the 3g+
So no one has any favorites or experiences?
If you want a Hermes, it's ATT then, and you also would have to make sure they support 3G in your area.
T-Mobile DOES have internet though (and internet sharing).
how do access the Internet settings such as change dns serer address
I don't see the DNS anywhere but there are a lot of options if you go to the Browser->Menu->More->Settings
Anyone else have a G1 with no internet connection?
I got mine the morning of the 22nd, and since then I've not been able to access the internet by either means of Edge or 3G. I also live in a very good 3G coverage area. Anyone else having this issue?
I called T-mobile, they escalated it up to engineering and told me they are working on it. Was told I'd more than likely get called back today, and i didn't... Seems everyone I know has no issues with the net and their new G1's.. Anyone here having this problem?
I'm liking the phone OK, but for the 349.99 and 30 bucks tax (I wasn't eligible for the upgrade)and 4 hours in line... I'd like the internet to work out of the box. .
Half tempted to get the Touch Pro, since it appears to be at a local best buy...
I had a HTC diamond touch with WM6.1 same processor pretty much a kickass phone and I can tell a big different when it comes to internet speed.I don't live in a 3G area but the G1 browser is faster than Mobile Internet Explorer and Opera.Mine started working out of the box.
If I were you I would go to your Tmo store and ask and think about the other phone....it's gonna be more expensive too.
See ya.
I did for the 22nd
the chick put the g1 data plan on the wrong line, so I got no joy till I called and had it fixed then waited 8hours for the setting to change...
but now all is well
bhang
Does anyone else's EDGE randomly go off and on? And not the no-service so no-edge thing, i mean i'll be in the same position and it will randomly disappear and reappear...other times it just doesn't connect.
another thing PLEASE HELP WITH...
i have cincinnati bell and they recently rolled out Dual-band WCDMA 1700/2100 network.
is this NOT the same as t-mobiles? i partially bought this phone because it would work with cinci bell because they were both on the 1700/2100 band, but apparently not because i can't get 3g signal...well i've seen it flash 3g before for like 1 second but then it goes away.
any suggestions? i also have mms troubles but thats another thing i'll worry about after fixing my current problems.
I'd guess you need to change the APN settings. Google "g1 att apn" and you should get plenty of instructions for AT&T. Just modify them to work with Cincinnati Bell. And yes, Cincinnati Bell is using the same 1700/2100 AWS-1 T-mo is using.
i have the correct APN - internet DOES work and has worked on all other devices using my current APN configuration.
Hm. Beats me then. Are EDGE and 3G rock solid right now with your other devices?
i hope thats it...EDGE works...most of the time. i haven't gotten G yet. i have no other device to test 3g on...except my brother's super un-smartphone nokia 3555 which displays "3g" at the top almost always...that's the only other 1700/2100 mhz phone that i know of.
hopefully this gets fixed in an update? also, should i delete all other APN's from the list besides my CBW one? and should i have a separate APN for mms and data (cause under the tmobile ones the apn type on the data is set to default and apn type under mms is mms...i copied this format...no luck either...mms still doesn't work).
EDGE and GSM is Smoothest across all HTC i have used.
and GPS is the fastest in all HTC Device may be becuase of Dedicated Antena on Body below Battery cover
I just received mine yesterday and have been using internet all day. the only problem i had was at 2am (gmt) i was dropped down to 2g. But that was a t-mobile problem, my PC broadband was dropped down to 2g also.
Both were back on 3g when i got up.
In you case it may be the phone, id phone up your operator. If your network isnt experiencing any problems then you should send your phone back.
Hi,
after having several missed calls going straight to my answering machine on my new HTC Hero. I was getting a bit paranoiac, so I've decided to test in/out calls.
Basically, 90 of my incoming calls were going straight to my answering machine. Out-call were about 30% KO
After several tests, to make sure there was a problem, I've decided to request for support from HTC.
Support told me that I should shut the 3g connection every time I would want to receive a call .
So I tried and Bingo, if 3G is activated, I get 10% of the calls, if I deactivate it 90% success.
So you'll say, I should be happy? Right? Wrong!
The main use of that kind of phone is to have a data integration, otherwise I would have kept my old nokia from 10 years ago..
Here basically, if I follow HTC idea, I should keep the 3g closed, sometime, I should switch it on to get my mails, thanks to the non true push capacities (ok this one is not htc) then wait for the sync, maybe force it , get my mails, and then, shut 3g back and pray that no Über important call would have been done.
Well that plain sucks!
Never had such a thing on my previous Data friendly mobiles, why should I accept it on the Hero?
If someone have come across this bug, cause it is a bug, how did he/she managed to fix it?
Thanks
works fine on mine....i suggest you are on a ****e network, or on only 2G where you are. that's what usually causes this.
I guess they suggested this because it sounds like your network hasn't figured out how to route calls properly on their network when data is active, and they dump it straight to voicemail when there is a data connection active.
not the phone's fault, the phone won't even know that the call has been missed, the network simply does not route the call through and sends it to voicemail instead.
i had this on O2 a while ago. went to t-mobile (who knew how to set up their network properly for data) and never had this issue since when i am on 3G coverage. if i'm on 2G signal and have active data then yes, i miss calls. but that's how 2G networks operate.
it's truly shocking how many networks out there have absolutely no idea how to set up their networks properly for data!
Well I wish it would be that, my signal goes from -63 dbm 25 asu(80% of the time) to -81 dbm 16 asu.
Just after my post, I called one of my friend working in carrier terminal validation.
What he told me was, 2 options:
- Same bug was on the htc cruise, bug got corrected after a fw update.
- Some of my carrier radio are buggy and 3g goes over gsm.(SFR/VOdaphone France)
I bet for the first option since I had the problem in various places since I didn't want to ask support for nothing and get busted for a " feeling and not facts" (did the test in 3 differend location 80 tests in total(I used to be a tester....).
I will update the topic if I get news about it
nmuncer said:
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Never had such a thing on my previous Data friendly mobiles, why should I accept it on the Hero?
If someone have come across this bug, cause it is a bug, how did he/she managed to fix it?
Thanks
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You shouldn't accept it - but most people don't have this issue!
It's unlikely to be a "bug" per se, because otherwise it would be endemic behaviour, so it's either:
1. Your physical device (get it changed!)
2. Your network.
In addition, just an FYI in case you've got the new Sprint Hero, but most CDMA networks (including Sprint) do not support simultaneous voice and data. I've no idea what happens in practice on Sprint, but I'd imagine if you were actively using data your voice calls would get diverted to voicemail unless Sprint automatically suspends data when a voice call is pending.
Regards,
Dave
You're on SFR?
OUCH!!!!
Sounds like you have a nice strong signal, but is it 2G or 3G? (do you see a G, E 3G or H at the top of the screen?
if you see G or E, it's cos you're on 2G, If you get 3G or H, it's on 3G.
And yes, there were a few issues with the P3300 and the cruise, but they were mainly on Bouygues, not so much on SFR.
There's nothing known of on the hero, and as SFR sell the Magic, i would have thought they would have ironed out any issues already...
Hi,
I'm mostly in HSDPA or 3G.
I still have contacts with people at SFR (used to work there till recently) they might share a bit of info.
Idk if yours is CDMA or the GSM one but on mine (CDMA) under the mobile network settings, I have the option to switch the mode of operation to ether Hybrid, EVDO only, and 1X only. Now, I know how Sprint's network works, not sure if it's the same for any other networks but if I set it to Evdo only (3g) I'll miss all my calls because Sprint does voice over 1X. Hybrid mode does EVDO when you're using data and switches to 1X when you're doing voice/sms.
rhedgehog said:
if you see G or E, it's cos you're on 2G, If you get 3G or H, it's on 3G.
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Regarding this and your suggestion that 2g and data will result in missed calls, Can you suggest how to avoid this happening? I live and work in the country and only have 2g, so have found quite often people have mentioned my phone not even ringing- straight to answer phone. This explains it.
Nice to know, but annoying if I can't solve it- I run a business and my phone is very important.
Cheers,
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Idk if yours is CDMA or the GSM one but on mine (CDMA) under the mobile network settings, I have the option to switch the mode of operation to ether Hybrid, EVDO only, and 1X only. Now, I know how Sprint's network works, not sure if it's the same for any other networks but if I set it to Evdo only (3g) I'll miss all my calls because Sprint does voice over 1X. Hybrid mode does EVDO when you're using data and switches to 1X when you're doing voice/sms.
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i have sprint as well and when someone calls you when youre running hybrid, you should not miss calls. you will get disconnected from the internet when someone is calling though
ajones7279 said:
Idk if yours is CDMA or the GSM one but on mine (CDMA) under the mobile network settings, I have the option to switch the mode of operation to ether Hybrid, EVDO only, and 1X only. Now, I know how Sprint's network works, not sure if it's the same for any other networks but if I set it to Evdo only (3g) I'll miss all my calls because Sprint does voice over 1X. Hybrid mode does EVDO when you're using data and switches to 1X when you're doing voice/sms.
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Hi, I'm on hybrid
that is what i hate about hero, it is really great except for the fact that it switches from 2g to 3g without notice. i want it to be permanently stuck in 3g for faster downloads and mms, but when it uses 2g, i cant send and receive mms and surfing the web is slow as heck! im still looking for an app that would permanently put the device in 3g just like with winmo it which you can use wcdma ONLY.
cheers!
If you use AnyCut, you can create a short cut by selecting:
New Shortcut->Activity->Phone info
This will create a shortcut on your homescreen which beings up a hidden "engineering" screen on which you'll find an drop down for "Set preferred network type" where you can select WCDMA only.
Regards,
Dave
alternatively, open the phone app
dial *#*#4636#*#* and select phone info
scroll down and set it to WCDMA only.
does the same thing but saves installing an app.
rhedgehog said:
alternatively, open the phone app
dial *#*#4636#*#* and select phone info
scroll down and set it to WCDMA only.
does the same thing but saves installing an app.
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holy monkey! im going to try this!!! do i have to di it everytime i turn the phone of or is it permanent?
orouborus said:
that is what i hate about hero, it is really great except for the fact that it switches from 2g to 3g without notice. i want it to be permanently stuck in 3g for faster downloads and mms, but when it uses 2g, i cant send and receive mms and surfing the web is slow as heck! im still looking for an app that would permanently put the device in 3g just like with winmo it which you can use wcdma ONLY.
cheers!
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That is not specific to the Hero. The fact is, every carrier's 2G network has better coverage than their 3G network. When the phone cannot detect strong enough 3G signal, it jumps back to 2G network. The idea is that slow data transmission is better than no data transmission at all. Many smartphones have the option to lock the mobile network to 2G only. One advantage is that it gets better reception, and another advantage is longer battery life (the 3G chip eats battery much faster than 2G).
If you instead lock the phone to its 3G network. The first thing you will notice is that battery life is significantly shorter. And chance is that you may be getting very spotty reception, because you are not allowing to phone to switch to 2G when it gets no 3G signal. When there is no 3G signal, forcing the phone to "3G only" mode won't give you faster download, it gives you no download.
tsekh501 said:
That is not specific to the Hero. The fact is, every carrier's 2G network has better coverage than their 3G network. When the phone cannot detect strong enough 3G signal, it jumps back to 2G network. The idea is that slow data transmission is better than no data transmission at all. Many smartphones have the option to lock the mobile network to 2G only. One advantage is that it gets better reception, and another advantage is longer battery life (the 3G chip eats battery much faster than 2G).
If you instead lock the phone to its 3G network. The first thing you will notice is that battery life is significantly shorter. And chance is that you may be getting very spotty reception, because you are not allowing to phone to switch to 2G when it gets no 3G signal. When there is no 3G signal, forcing the phone to "3G only" mode won't give you faster download, it gives you no download.
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true true. i usually charge my phone everynight though. problem that i have with 2g is that i cant send and recieve mms and yeah data connection is slow. in our place 3g signal is ok. i also lock my topaz for wcdma only. but it is ok that it switches to 2g in low signal areas.
Thanks!
You actually use mms?
Wow, they do exist.
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You actually use mms?
Wow, they do exist.
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yeah... mms is great. i use it to send items that i wish to purchase etc.
What NOM1 Networks are there in the UK? I only get 2g in my area (booo) and could do with an operator that works right. T-Mobile forums suggest they still have an issue
Hi
I've checked it with Hero running in PlusGSM in Poland.
Regardless if I select 2G/3G or even "WCDMA preffered/GSM Only/WCDMA only" setting the phone is not available for incoming voice calls during data transfer. Every time when I start internet connection (example: SSH session) I'm not available for incoming calls. At this site I do have both strong 2G and strong 3G networks.
I would like to mention that a few days ago I've swapped Samsung SGH-i600 (WinMo 6.0) for HTC Hero - so I'm using the same SIM card in the same network and the same place. SHG-I600 was able to perform both data transfer (on 2G) and voice (on 3G) on the same time. HTC Hero is not...
I wonder if this is 'feature by design' or a bug in software?
I have heard that people using the MT7-L09 version of the Ascend mate 7 are having issues sending MMS Messages over Cellular network and the only way you can make and receive them is over Wi-Fi. Well the issue is Really common on Internationally unlocked cellular phones and the issue is really simple to fix. The problem resides in the APN Settings. When you pop in your T-Mobile or AT&T SIM card, the device sometimes sets up a Automatic APN Set up within the device. Sometimes, when the device does this, it puts down incorrect or old values. Now to the fix.
GO into Settings. Under Wireless & Networks tap More, then tap Mobile Network, and then Access Point Names. Under general you will see a already preseted APN called T-MobileData and under MMS something called T-MobileMMS. If you click the "i" next to the T-MobileData APN you will see that there is nothing set under the MMSC. To add the MMSC value just tap the value and type in http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc
After that tap OK then go down to APN Type and make sure default,supl,mms,hipri,dun is displayed. If not, add in the missing values. Make sure that mms is included in the APN Type or MMS Messaging will NOT work. Just for future proofing Make sure you APN Protocol is set to IPv4/IPv6 as set with the latest LTE phones.
Once done select OK and then Save at the bottom. Once done make sure to Select the APN Radio button you just edited a couple of times. You may see your Data connection go out and then show 3G/H/H+. This is normal as it is refreshing settings. Let your phone sit up 5 minutes or until 4G Shows up. Once it shows up, hop into the Messaging app and try sending a MMS message to yourself and you should be able to send and receive it without wifi over 4G LTE.
Those on AT&T, the same fix applies, but with your specific Carriers's APN Settings
Just to let you guys know and other friends, if you ever get on a AWS band (3G/H/H+) and you have NO data connection and your carrier is T-Mobile, this is because T-Mobile has shut down (Or will be shutting down and removing) all AWS band antennas from their towers to make room for new Cat. 6 Carrier Aggregation. So if you get the MT7-L10 version (which is the 3GB RAM Non-LTE version) the AWS bands probably won't work with it and you are stuck with using 2G EDGE as data. This goes for ANY phone that relies on one of Many AWS bands to get 4G Speed internet. For more info on this, check out http://www.tmonews.com/2015/06/aws-hspa-t-mobile-markets-shutdown-dates/