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I just felt the need to declare my genuine satisfaction with the hero.
For the first time with a phone I haven't felt cheated. I did so much reading on here first and was expecting a few teething problems but it has been superb.
The build quality, the UI, the OS have delivered everything I hoped and surprised me with more than I expected. It's my full time phone, email, music player, satnav, browser and the app store is turning out nicely. Its such a contrast from the Windows mobile experience of the last 4 years.
Had to tell you folks because they think its sad here at home I can be this pleased with a Phone!
Yay, another happy customer!!
I am also really happy with my Hero. Does everything I expect and need and then some. I do question some of the build quality though, the back cover can be slightly flimsy, but I am overall delighted.
My wife on the other hand is completely uninterested!
yeh, I'm really happy with the Hero as well, my girl friend hates the chin, as do a lot of other girls that have seen the phone, But I think the chin is very sleek.
The chin makes it look unique.
The UI is great.
Capacitive screen is amazing.
I'm just hoping for some sort of update from Google that will enable system wide multitouch and proper bluetooth functionality without the need for rooting.
Me too. I absolutely love the thing, and it's more than taken care of the iPhone cravings I had until recently. It's better looking, more powerful (in terms of multitasking and so on), and has a app store not gaurded by facists. And it integrates beautifully with the Google services, which I've been using for years.
I wouldn't change it for anything, and the thought of going back to a WM device actually makes me feel slightly sick :|
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My wife on the other hand is completely uninterested!
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I bought the phone as a present for my wife, her first smartphone.
She seems more interested in it than me!
Actually the thing that amazed me most about the phone is how easily she learned how to use it and like it.
I'm used to windows mobile where you need extensive experience in order to get things to work the way you want.
With the Hero everything, or at least most, works as it should out of the box.
IMHO HTC has done a great job with this phone, I am truly impressed.
I like the ease of use, but also the potential to get really technical with it if you so desire. iPhone is too simple, WinMo is too technical but Hero-flavoured Android hits the mark perfectly.
I couldn't agree more, first HTC phone was an MDA Compact II, followed by a Vario II, then a Vario III and then a Raphael. Didn't think it could get much better than the Raph, was totally in love with it, but Wow, the Hero has blown me away, had it nearly two weeks now and still can't leave it alone.
I have to agree with the OP, this device is excellent so far. It feels solid and the display's brilliant.
The one thing I don't like is the inability to close down apps that you've finished with properly but that's an Android thing, so I'm told.
Taskiller in the market can help you, but Android shuts things down as and when you run out of resources, so generally not a problem.
I've been using that 'Taskilller' app but it seems to shut down my UI, even if I only shut down certain processes.
I am extremely satisfied... I come from years of WM and so far so good. OK the Sense UI goes a little slow at times but as I previously wrote, nowhere near as slow as TouchFlow when it was first released.... and have seen the improvements HTC made with TFl3D on the Diamond 2, this UI has LOADS of potential!! I am personally enjoying the new challenge of learning and cooking Android
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I've been using that 'Taskilller' app but it seems to shut down my UI, even if I only shut down certain processes.
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Add TouchFlow to your ignore list to avoid that.
Thanks mate.
Its a great phone , i just have reservations about the build quality.
The LEDS on mine packed up after 10 days use others have gone after 3-4 days.
i think the form factor and the OS are great, but i am concerned about reliabilty
I have taken Taskiller off for the last couple of days to see how the system copes on its own shutting things down when it needs to. To be honest there have been less slow downs and pauses than before. Mind you I have updated the Copilot software and that might have something to do with it as the difference in the way the app runs is massive.
The LED's are a firmware issue aren't they? Hopefully HTC will release an update and square things away, then this phone will be pretty close to perfect (a camera flash would be sweet and a faster processor but we can't have everything ).
Less aggressive compression on the photos and a larger frame size for video would be perfect... and possible with software.
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The LED's are a firmware issue aren't they? Hopefully HTC will release an update and square things away,) ).
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The tech guy at the store i returned mine back to thought not, if so why do some fail and others not on the same firmware?
maybe most are fine and a few of us were just unlucky , however only time will tell whether this is a rare occurance or a bigger issue
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The one thing I don't like is the inability to close down apps that you've finished with properly but that's an Android thing, so I'm told.
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Just forget about it, and let the OS deal with it. It is designed to do so, and does it well. You're wasting your time with a task manager.
Ok- just gone up in my estimation! Just accidentally fired it across the the room with wet hands rescuing it from the dog.
Not a mark and everything still works. Know I am lucky but still impressed
I hate that tight feeling in my throat when something goes wrong and its entirely my fault!
Hi everyone, long time reader, first time threader. I've been reading alot about the Nexus One and without going into a ****load of detail, as you all know, the forums do attract alot of negative reviews, only because, obviously, the masses of people out there who are happy with their shiny new handset are sitting back, playing with their gadget, probably laughing at the world.
My phone arrives tomorrow, so I thought it would be interesting to start a thread that everyone can post their positive, satisfied testimonials in. If this thread fails I will take that as a fail over all.
Nothing negative here, if you're happy with your new Nexus let everyone know here. Over 9,000 pages.
I think that is a very good initiative !
In a couple of hours my phone should arrive.. i'll post my first-hand thoughts !
Mine is awesome. I have none of the issues everyone is talking about. In particular, I like the battery life compared to my last htc, and how easy it was to pair to my 3 cars.
Very happy
As a mover from WinMo to the N1 I am very happy. I still have plenty of learning to do about Android and will root when I think the community has enough tools to make it really worth it, but my first impressions are that this is a good quality handset that feels good in the hand and is very responsive.
I have been using it for 10 days and wouldn't consider any of the small challenges I've had anything more than an ignorance of what Android is possible of.
I hope you have as good an experience as I have
I've been a long time iPhone (jailbroken) user and have just got into the Android scene with my Nexus One.
I must say,...I'm absolutely loving the device,..my 3GS feels dated in comparison! I'd still say the iPhone OS has more polish then the current iteration of Android 2.1, but know that won't be for too much longer.
Loving the Android community too!
Time to sell that 3GS on ebay
Very Very Happy
I would like to say that I am very happy with the phone having played about with it for the last 3 days. It is everything I expected it to be and the more apps/widgets I add the more impressed I am with it.
Being a smart/internet phone it heavily relies on a good connection. On 3g/WIFI it is easily the best phone I have used and in terms of ease of use and speed it matches the iphone.
I had to set up the APN settings after I got the phone and ever since then the connection has been fine. Please note that on GPRS the speed is not that great - which is not a fault of the phone.
It surpasses the iphone in terms of customizability and the fact that you can have a number of apps running at the same time without ANY slowing down! ON a Jail broken iphone everything bugged down due to multiple apps being used.
I only need a decent case now as it has slipped out of my hand several times due to its slick design!
Overall - very impressed, very happy, absolutely no regrets about not getting the iphone which was the only other alternative I was considering.
Great phone
I went from having a G1 since February last year over to getting the nexus last monday (ordered it a couple of hours after the press conference). All i can say is... wow!!!
Well, actually i can say some more things ;-) This piece of aluminium and glass is lightning quick. It's slim, it has the best phone-screen that i have ever seen, Android 2.1 looks extremely nice (like what they replaced the drawer with). Not having physical buttons is no problem since it have tactile feedback (takes a couple of minutes to get used to but after that you don't really reflect over it).
My friend has the IXXXXX 3gs and we have compared web loading speed. Let me just say that the NE is always faster when it comes to loading the entire page. Sometimes it is twice as fast (we tried several urls of which neither of us had visited before - they were not cached). When you flipped the G1 over to the side, it sometimes took several seconds for the image to flip with it. On the NE it is instantanious.
As for the problems you guys have had with 3g->2g and back, i can't really say i've had these issues. Where i live (Sweden) it have worked rock solid since the beginning.
There exists one issue with the screen on the NE right now, but since is the praise-thread where we are all positive, i will save that for another thread
Kind regards
Daniel
I've been a long time WinMo and Blackberry user here, and the N1 is my first Android device.
I'd have to say, I'm definitely impressed. The hardware is slick and fast, I've had absolutely no issues with the phone other people have had (except no 3g coverage when I'm at work, but life goes on). Pictures are good for a phone, everything is just nice.
Once an N1 with a hardware keyboard comes out, I'll give the current N1 to the boyfriend as he's smitten with it and -hates- hardware keyboard, whereas I have to have a device with a hardware keyboard (work-related, I send emails like a fiend).
It plays Pokemon Ruby perfectly. And...it just works.
On a positive note as well, yesterday in my office with had a Blackberry (Tour), WinMo (Imagio), WebOS (Pre), iPhone (3gs) and of course my Nexus One. iPhone, WinMo and Blackberry users were aaall jealous (especially the iPhone user). The Pre guy likes it a lot as well, but not quite smitten.
Just see these videos and watch your juggernaut fight keys and scissors!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpGAW6L5x8U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfqwKa4bT74
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This is my and the n1'a one week anniversary and we will be celebrating tonite over wine and and a movie. Everyone make sure to tell your nexus how much you love it.
I have had nothing but good experiences with this phone, I don't even have to use the Keyboard!
If you want a breath of fresh ait go check out Twit.TV.
Specifically the Daily GizWiz #1007
http://twit.tv/dgw1007
**** DeBartolo and Leo Laporte both got N1's.
And on this one when they a don talknig about Google.cn they talk uo the N1 one for a while and it's features.
http://twit.tv/twig
Just thought I would share!
Lovin' it
Again - I have absolutely no complains about the nexus at all. It is the device that I have been waiting for so long, and it does not disappoint in any way. Had it for 2 weeks now and still can't stop playing with it. Can't think of any other bit of tech where the novelty hasn't worn off after a couple of days
So I received the phone 10 hours ago, and only let it out of my hand because I had to go to the toilet and eat.
Its fantastic.
Ditto, Ditto, Ditto to all the comments.
1 week old for me, moved from a Symbian. This is much better. Sorted out the sync process for my emails and calender (from Outlook - I love the fact I don't need to connect the phone to my PC to sync, I know it may well be days before I need to turn the PC on with this phone). No manufacture issues. Lots of looks from iphone droids (incl my gf!). Loads of Apps.
Can't wait for flash, because when that arrive, there will be no beating this sweet bit of kit - oh yes, and the price, for a SIM free, £360 delivered (subject to possible VAT) is an awesome price!
I can't praise this enough! I simply see it as a HTC with a google ad/logo on it!! Nothing wrong with that in my eyes.
My Nexus One is really fun to just poke at the background of.
Well I mean it just does everything my myTouch 3G did except better, and that's really what I wanted
I use mine on the toilet! (I know; that is grody.) It is that hard to part from the phone. I'm coming from a rooted G1 that I spent a lot of time playing around with.
In comparison to the iPhone, Android + Nexus One hardware makes it far superior. Not saying the iPhone isn't a great piece of hardware in its own respect, I just think the marketing that went behind it has implanted the idea that it is the most superior phone out there. To me, the Nexus One has disproved that. I can actually have a phone with a background (live wallpapers, FTW) and not populated with a bunch of squares (widgets, FTW). I can actually view all my notifications and have quick access to them via simple swipe of the notification bar.
I use text-to-speech on this phone as I did on my G1. SayMyName is quite useful (despite some bugs on the N1, it reads the contact number not the name). On my G1, SayMyName would slow my calls down and it would ring 4-5 times before actually giving me a chance to pick up. Not so much on the N1. It is instant.
Camera takes nice pictures. Navigation works great (used it on the G1, but should be same on the N1, just faster). The screen is pretty, very pretty. Simply put, this phone is awesome!
I apologize for my ramblings; I've been getting a lot of flak from iPhone users. I hope everyone enjoys their Nexus One as much as I do.
I've used WinMo devices for the past five years or so (Since O2 XDA). Latest one was a HTC Touch Diamond.
I've been using my Nexus One now for a week and it never stops to amaze me. I thought my Touch Diamond was pretty neat, but compared to the speed and ease-of-use of Android on this blazingly fast N1... it's just awesome. And (unlike my Touch Diamond) it doesn't need soft resets three times a day....
Mine is really awesome. I have none of the issues some are talking about. In particular, I like the Speed, UI, Design, Flexability, Customizing, etc...Did I mention Fast
Got mine ~4 hours ago. After reading through these forums the past day to see what problems I might expect, the only issue I saw, but was prepared for, was one edge of the screen wasn't sealed. Turned the hairdryer on it for ~30 seconds, pressed down and the screen stuck. No dust was under the screen straight out of the plastic protector. No 3G swapping issues (T-Mobile).
Impressive piece of kit, especially coming from a Dash where some keys weren't working and sound quality had gone to crap.
Compared to my wife's MyTouch 3G, the Android keyboard is waaaay easier to get keys on the outer edge to register. It usually takes me a few tries on the wife's, but the N1 keys register on the first try.
Very happy ~4 hours in.
Had it around a week and a half now. Absolutely love it! After spending so many years with WinMo I can't describe the difference. Such a great piece of hardware too.
after X1...i feel little apprehensive to buy another sony ericsson phone..the way they ditched their customers..i kinda feel betrayed..the phone feels like crap now...outdated OS...laggy interface, finger- unfriendly.
X panels was a joke
- how useful is timescape/mediascape?
now saw the forum..and X10 also has sufficient amount of bugs compared to other Android phones...infact much more than any other high end android phone
it is a cool phone..looks classy..good to show off.
-but does it perform decently as a phone?...will i have problems making phone calls & texting?
-and will rooting come on X10? ...coz i want a phone i can customize later..and not a phone which becomes dinosaur like X1
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X10 also has sufficient amount of bugs compared to other Android phones...infact much more than any other high end android phone
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I believe you answered your own question
I'll be honest,
I was fortunate enough to have an HTC Desire for 2 weeks before I got the X10...
I sold the desire because I was under the impression that the only things I didn't like about the X10 were to do with Android 2.1 which would be sorted in the update.
After playing with the X10 I'm starting to miss the Desire - the camera seemed to be better with crisper images (surprising?! YEP!!) but again, I'm hoping this will all change with updates, so I'm kind of relying on SE to sort all this out with updates.
I do like the X10, don't get me wrong, BUT I think I will like it even more assuming that I'm right that the updates will sort out the issues.
You are right to be apprehensive. I jumped on this a soon as it was released in the UK. Even though their was a lot of controversy about the specs I bought this.
I also knew the Desire was about to be released to at around the same time.
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- how useful is timescape/mediascape?
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MediaScape is very pretty indeed but i still find myself using the stock music app from time to time for the best functionality.
With Mediascape I have noticed that it does take a few button presses to get to where you want to go. This is down to both the menu structure and the fact on my current firmware the app doesn't always respond to my key presses. I have also found that the pics that i have tagged regularly revert back to their untagged state. The ability to create playlists using Mscape on the device is also lacking.
I tried setting Timescape as my homescreen but it suffered from serious slow down on launch. The app draw was also affected so I reverted back to the stock android's 3 homescreens and the phone was lightening quick again.
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but does it perform decently as a phone?...will i have problems making phone calls & texting?
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In short NO. as phone it is hit a miss. The In-Call Volume is far too quiet and and turned up to max volume on 1.6 you get background interference.
In addition to this there are no initiate call\ end call hard keys sometime feels like there too many options/button presses to make and receive calls.
It works but I feel that it's not as intuative as HTC's own design.
Texting.. Again out of the box texting can be quite a task as the SE keyboard doesnt always recognise key presses. However this can be narrowed down to specific keys when it happens.
You can overcome this though by installing the HTC keyboard or by using Better keyboard from the market.
One more thing to note with text is that TimeScape offers full conversation history with images too and it all looks very tidy. However when you want to respond to message you are taken into what looks like different app that looks less impressive. On the plus side the sms app works in landscape.
On the Plus side, the screen is glorious, browsing is a joy, the OS although not 2.1 is still a joy to use (Comparing to my old Hero on 1.5).
Google maps with Nav and the Camera are also great.
I can't say im completely satisfied with the X10 and on occasion I have been tempted to swap for a Desire. However I have this foolish hope that SE will come good and make this device what it was designed to be. I'm sure you will have heard about the planned updates.
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-and will rooting come on X10? ...coz i want a phone i can customize later..and not a phone which becomes dinosaur like X1
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I think Root will come eventually but at the moment this device isn't as popular as other android handsets because of SE's past record. It's also evident that alot of people are tempted by the x10, but are not sure wether to make the commitment.
HTC is the safe choice (tried and tested) and I thats why they get root first.
don't do my mistake x10 is shi*ty htc rules ,i regretdd leaving my hd2 ,i will threw the x10 into garbage and return my hd2 to be my main device ,or buy a desire . the x10 feels to be a prerelease prototype device ,very un usable
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don't do my mistake x10 is shi*ty htc rules ,i regretdd leaving my hd2 ,i will threw the x10 into garbage and return my hd2 to be my main device ,or buy a desire . the x10 feels to be a prerelease prototype device ,very un usable
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Right... Very unusable and you threw it in the garbage and then returned to WinMo..
Something tells me theres a fair bit of bull**** floating around.
Infact, coming from the HD2 to the X10, the HD2 is much more unusable than the X10. The X10 is FAR FAR more responsive than any WinMo device
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Right... Very unusable and you threw it in the garbage and then returned to WinMo..
Something tells me theres a fair bit of bull**** floating around.
Infact, coming from the HD2 to the X10, the HD2 is much more unusable than the X10. The X10 is FAR FAR more responsive than any WinMo device
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I agree, I came from HD2 to Desire ( for 3 weeks), and now to X10
Desire was a great phone , but lacked that wow factor, was a little bit too boring in design ( personal choice of course)
Reason I want back to the X10 was the screen size, I found the Desire too small.
When we get 2.1 or 2.2 on this phone, it will be the best around, so we need to pray for root as soon as possible. But as usual, in 3 months, there will be something newer out there.
I want to tell you my story : I had the same experience with SE X1 so I was looking for another choice, first thing I decided NO MORE WM , X1 was my first and last windows mobile . I read about Android but never try, I was looking on the net, reading reviews and previews , I found out that the Desire would be the best, but its design was boring not like the fascinating X10.
X10 is the first SE Android experience because of that there might be some bugs, but now after one month using it I can tell you two words GO AHEAD .... that exactly the device which I was looking for, changing from X1 to X10 is like from hell to heaven .
I think a lot of great things will come soon : X10 will be rooted then it will get Android 2.1 (in Q4 2010)
P.S: as an Arabic user I am suffering that the device doesn't support my language, but it's still my favorite
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now saw the forum..and X10 also has sufficient amount of bugs compared to other Android phones...infact much more than any other high end android phone
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No, that's not true. There's always an over representation of people who have problems on forums! And to tell you the truth, I have no problems at all with my phone. Bug free and lightning fast with the latest update. Mind you that I never use Timescape or Mediascape, but that's me! And the Desire has bugs too.
Hmmm didnt you started a similar thread before?
If you i had given you my opinion there. In short x10 is not a bad phone. If your expectation is high then you're likey to get dissapointed. Desire is a better option. But not the best looking phone imo.
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You are right. We cannot habe arabic without rooting so. It is one of biggest problems I had faced
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Hmmm didnt you started a similar thread before?
If you i had given you my opinion there. In short x10 is not a bad phone. If your expectation is high then you're likey to get dissapointed. Desire is a better option. But not the best looking phone imo.
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Why is the Desire a better option? Because it has Android 2.1? Or is it because it displays gray colors as pink? Or maybe because it is unusable in the sun? Or maybe its the poor reception it receives or crappy pictures it takes? The desire has plenty of negatives that people are writing about all over the place, but it's still a GREAT phone. For my money I prefer the X10, some people will prefer the Desire, and that's fine, but my expectations were extremely high with the X10 and it has met every one of them, it's a fantastic phone.
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Why is the Desire a better option? Because it has Android 2.1? Or is it because it displays gray colors as pink? Or maybe because it is unusable in the sun? Or maybe its the poor reception it receives or crappy pictures it takes? The desire has plenty of negatives that people are writing about all over the place, but it's still a GREAT phone. For my money I prefer the X10, some people will prefer the Desire, and that's fine, but my expectations were extremely high with the X10 and it has met every one of them, it's a fantastic phone.
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Agreed, i had my x10 for a day and its been excellent.
I've had a few niggles with the phone, but nothing major.. I love it, such a great bit of kit.. fast, responsive, clear picture, generally very good ui.. have persevered with Mediascape and quite like it now.. just occasionally use the default mail app to make playlist (which irritatingly can't do in mediascape.. )
managing to get a full day out of the battery now too, and that's with quite a bit of use..
so.. onto OS/ firmware - They've already released a couple of minor build changes.. and another bigger one coming out in the next week or so.. then Android 2.1 (probably not 2.2 or later) in Q4 this year.. I'm not bothered about MT, but then I'm not a big gamer.... all things considered though. A1.6 is pretty damned good anyway.. (my missus has a HTC legend which is great.. but I still prefer my X10..!!
I too came from an X1 to an X10, and couldn't be happier. Even with the X1 modded with an HTC interface, this phone is so much more enjoyable to use. Such a smooth and responsive user experience compared to that one.
My friend has a Desire btw, and on the same network, on the same physical spot, my X10 has better signal reception and higher download speeds. Plus, for some reason the X10 both starts and shuts down WAY faster. So the Desire isn't all that much more desireable in my experience.
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Why is the Desire a better option? Because it has Android 2.1? Or is it because it displays gray colors as pink? Or maybe because it is unusable in the sun? Or maybe its the poor reception it receives or crappy pictures it takes? The desire has plenty of negatives that people are writing about all over the place, but it's still a GREAT phone. For my money I prefer the X10, some people will prefer the Desire, and that's fine, but my expectations were extremely high with the X10 and it has met every one of them, it's a fantastic phone.
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Sorry for being blunt, i was actually reading this thread on the phone and couldnt type long.
Our hesitating friend here is looking for something that he/she can show off. No doubt both phones are good looking physically and GUI wise. And the X10 suit my taste more.
However you have to admit the animation on the phone is just questionable. There are noticeable minor lags. The most obvious is when you hold your thumb on the home screen to change wallpapers, the window jerks open. Such a simple animation and yet it cant be done nicely on a 1ghz cpu. Hence I dare to say the desire does a better job at this. The animations are so fluid its almost on par with the iphone. You might say i'm being picky, i admit that, thats prob because my expectation was even more higher than yours.
Look nocturnal, both phones have good and bad points, it all depends on what features both phones offer matter to you most, and what are the bad points you can ignore. I'm a pessimist, I like my things by accepting their cons. Im also a X1 user as I mentioned in your earlier thread. Upgrading from that piece of junk to X10 is definitely a huge leap. I maybe complaining about the smallest details i can find on X10, but that does not mean Im not happy with the phone. I know iphone is the only phone(according to my experience) that can do the most fluid GUI, (HTC second) but can i live with no-multitasking, apple being a control freak etc etc? No
I'd give X10 a 8/10, X1 a 2/10.
Pass
I have only purchased SE phones for the past seven years. My last three were the p900a, p910i, and currently I own the x1i. Prior to SE I only purchased Motorola. When the X10 came out I decided to purchase but also wanted to wait to see want x10 owners were saying. I have been waiting, and waiting, and waiting for enough positives to go ahead a take the x10 plunge. I have learned the hard way that SE gets great hardware out there and is slow to get the software side up and running appropriately, but that is not a deal breaker by itself.
After waiting for several issues to be resolved before purchasing and reading the volume of issues, I have finally decided to give the x10 a pass all together. No, I will wait for the issues facing the x10 to be worked out in the next SE. Like maybe the GX1! That will be sweet when/if it arrives to market.
The reason I have decided to wait: Unlike the p900, p910, and x1, the x10's issues are too involved with the reasons I would buy this ppc.
1) I prefer a hard keyboard and the with the issues facing the on-screen keyboard, the rest of the phone would really have to be superstar to over come this issue for me. Not a deal breaker by itself.
2) Timescape lags, contact photo not clean, issues with google email and facebook functionality, plus doesn't sync'n well and, lack of thoughtfulness with the controls.
3) Battery life is not optimised for the X10's performance. Not a deal breaker
4) Flash 10.1 not released yet and it is not yet known what issues will arise with working on the X10. Current flash players isn't really a proper flash player and video hangs at 50% complete. Issue for me
5) Running 1.6 and given SE track record the phone will get one up date to possibly the 2.1 in NOVEMBER. And, after that x10 owners will be on their own. Plus spring will be the launch of SE's next product. For me this is the biggest issue.
6) Suspicious that the screen protector that is included and shipped attached is really covering up a more serious issue with the actual screen itself. I do not see this as SE being thoughtful. Other wise why not just put it in the box and let the user decide? Some markets even got two screen protectors. One attached and second one to attach at a later time. It smells an awful lot like a screen manufacturing problem to me. Time will tell. But still an issue for me.
These are just a few off the top of my head. None are really deal breakers by themselves, and I know some will be addressed in June with an update and the others will be fixed in November. But why so long? Way too long if SE expects to keep me as a continued long term customers who always buys their flagship products. I also know that some will never be fixed. I would rather wait for the X20 with it's improvements and fixes to the issues facing the X10. Because I know there will not be enough changes to justify trading up from the X10 to the X20 should I buy now. I made that mistake with jumping from the p900 to the p910.
Here is what I would like to see SE and Google under the same roof. This would truly be an international success story. Ericsson's connectivity, Sony's ground breaking portable hardware, Googles OS, and purchase a forth company (purely software) to bring the apps into the 21st century. SE needs to buy a major software developer right now. SE's issues are always related to software and it that take too frick'n long to fix, if they get fixed at all. And, if you decide to get the fix yourself you void your warranty and can't get auto updates any more. Insane!
So unless something seriously ground breaking happens with this X10 I will hold on to my X1 a bit longer.
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I have only purchased SE phones for the past seven years. My last three were the p900a, p910i, and currently I own the x1i. Prior to SE I only purchased Motorola. When the X10 came out I decided to purchase but also wanted to wait to see want x10 owners were saying. I have been waiting, and waiting, and waiting for enough positives to go ahead a take the x10 plunge. I have learned the hard way that SE gets great hardware out there and is slow to get the software side up and running appropriately, but that is not a deal breaker by itself.
After waiting for several issues to be resolved before purchasing and reading the volume of issues, I have finally decided to give the x10 a pass all together. No, I will wait for the issues facing the x10 to be worked out in the next SE. Like maybe the GX1! That will be sweet when/if it arrives to market.
The reason I have decided to wait: Unlike the p900, p910, and x1, the x10's issues are too involved with the reasons I would buy this ppc.
1) I prefer a hard keyboard and the with the issues facing the on-screen keyboard, the rest of the phone would really have to be superstar to over come this issue for me. Not a deal breaker by itself.
2) Timescape lags, contact photo not clean, issues with google email and facebook functionality, plus doesn't sync'n well and, lack of thoughtfulness with the controls.
3) Battery life is not optimised for the X10's performance. Not a deal breaker
4) Flash 10.1 not released yet and it is not yet known what issues will arise with working on the X10. Current flash players isn't really a proper flash player and video hangs at 50% complete. Issue for me
5) Running 1.6 and given SE track record the phone will get one up date to possibly the 2.1 in NOVEMBER. And, after that x10 owners will be on their own. Plus spring will be the launch of SE's next product. For me this is the biggest issue.
6) Suspicious that the screen protector that is included and shipped attached is really covering up a more serious issue with the actual screen itself. I do not see this as SE being thoughtful. Other wise why not just put it in the box and let the user decide? Some markets even got two screen protectors. One attached and second one to attach at a later time. It smells an awful lot like a screen manufacturing problem to me. Time will tell. But still an issue for me.
These are just a few off the top of my head. None are really deal breakers by themselves, and I know some will be addressed in June with an update and the others will be fixed in November. But why so long? Way too long if SE expects to keep me as a continued long term customers who always buys their flagship products. I also know that some will never be fixed. I would rather wait for the X20 with it's improvements and fixes to the issues facing the X10. Because I know there will not be enough changes to justify trading up from the X10 to the X20 should I buy now. I made that mistake with jumping from the p900 to the p910.
Here is what I would like to see SE and Google under the same roof. This would truly be an international success story. Ericsson's connectivity, Sony's ground breaking portable hardware, Googles OS, and purchase a forth company (purely software) to bring the apps into the 21st century. SE needs to buy a major software developer right now. SE's issues are always related to software and it that take too frick'n long to fix, if they get fixed at all. And, if you decide to get the fix yourself you void your warranty and can't get auto updates any more. Insane!
So unless something seriously ground breaking happens with this X10 I will hold on to my X1 a bit longer.
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fm1776, none of those are issues to me especially no. 2 which I completely disagree with, no. 3 is also not the case with my phone, and the Android 1.6 being upgraded late this year ignores the fact that SE allows you to do the same and more that any Nexus 2.1 phone can do. Certainly a hard keyboard, if that is what you require, makes the x10 not the right phone for you. I am kind of shocked that you had the x1 but have passed on the x10 though, it is night and day between these phones, a lightyear leap, really.
the X10 reminds me a lot of the PS3. when the PS3 came out, it was dissed left and right. fans lost faith.
look what happened now? PS3 is killing it. and it too had to get firmware updates. and after some major updates, it was rockin'
i feel almost the same about the X10 as i did when i purchased a PS3 and my friends clowned me for it. now, it's not a laughing matter.
X10 IS getting 2.1 and that is a fact (for now) and i think if SE gives us what we want, it will be a win-win sooner or later.
so far the phone is a let down for me personally.
i don't hate it. patience and time will tell about how i feel about the phone when it's all said and done.
but as a phone, it doesn't do the 'phone' particularly well at this stage. low call volumes, along with a vibration that you can't really feel and a battery life that you can not really depend on is something really bugs me.
Been waiting for this phone since it was announced for my upgrade. T-Mobile UK shops should be getting it in either next week or week after. But having read through as much of this forum as i can stomach it seems there are so many unhappy people. Proximity sensor issues, lagging issues, battery issues, navigation issues etc....
So whats the verdict of you people that have one then? Are you glad youve got it? Are the issues really that widespread or is it isolated from the initial batch? I really dont want to dive in and get the phone all excitedly and then find these problems are major ones.
One thing you have to bear in mind with forums are that people tend to voice their opinion when they are unhappy. They are less likely to start threads stating how great the experience is going or about things they like!
Personally I can't find any real faults with the phone. There are little nags, such as the power button being hard to press but nothing that takes away from the overall experience. The battery life is poor over the first couple of days but it's looking like this resolves itself after the li-ion is conditioned.
Working for a major UK phone network, I get my hands on every handset going and nothing compares to the jaw dropping impact the 4.3" screen has! (Ok HD7 maybe, but WinPho7 is not quite ready yet, but will be great!) If you want the latest hardware and spend most of your time browsing or viewing media, the Desire HD is for you!
Regards.
I've had a hd2 for the last year so I'm used to the screen size the dhd is really nice I really like it I personally think to many people have commented to early with battery life mine seems fine and lasts the day with heavy use
My missus will tell you I don't put the thing down
I tried an iPhone 4 for a week and sent it back I preferred my hd2 although the iPhone was very smooth
The dhd is as smooth as the iPhone and the screen makes media and browsing so good, texting is also very good and I personally find the sound awesome through headphones well happy with mine as you might be able to tell
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I was highly impressed by Streak's 5" Inch and good battery life. However lack of development on software side is forcing me to think otherwise. I plan to buy from ebay, and my observation is I9000 is the same price as Streak. Spec wise I9000 is better than Streak apart from battery life and screen size. HD2 is cheaper, has the same proc as Streak and has a slightly larger screen than Galaxy S. HD2 and Galaxy S both have very good user base and lots of custom builds are being developed.
Am I wrong to think that it would be foolish to buy a Streak now and instead should go for HD2/Galaxy S?
Your feedback is kindly appreciated.
Forget the Streak (or any other Dell device). Dell just isn't up to the task.
Aside from the glacially-slow development times, the hardware just isn't 2011-quality.
If you can wait a bit, I would wait. If you cannot, get a Galaxy.
(Too bad HTC doesn't make a larger phone like the Streak.)
It's very much a question about what you need in a phone..
The streaks are unique in using a 5 inch lcd. you can really not get the experience in any other phone.
The very special use/customization of android is also unique. I love it because the super good readability and space for text input.
The HD2 is running windows mobile os, which is ultra customizable, but requires you to be willing to use time to make it work as you want.
Galaxy S phones are very good in their own way. Good implementation of android, and easy to operate. Good screen as they use s-amoled technology, very rich colors (some say it is too rich, so it becomes unnatural) but at only 4 inches, it's a bit crowded when you input text..
My thoughts only...
EDIT: maybe I should include the EVO 4G/desire HD to the mix? Good quality hardware, very innovative, and 4,3 inches.. Very good alternative indeed.
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If I could go back, I would not get Streak simply because it is made by Dell. Dell doesn't have experience in making phone, and unlike Apple, they are never been good in software either.
Thanks for input guys.
It's a shame that Dell failed to provide support for their first venture into android. Wonder why they are releasing new handsets in this competitive market.
I am looking for a balance between value for money and spec. Galaxy is good spec wise but ~£100 more than HD2. Pros- Better proc, better battery life and possibly better custom build support in the future. It's negative points would be- smaller screen size (better qual though) and poor build quality.
HD2 is relatively cheap now compared to it's spec due it based on winmo. However there are loads of froyo builds available now. Pros of HD2- 4.3" screen and price.
Desire HD is very expensive atm.
I am inclined towards HTC HD2 now.
I had the galaxy s for 4 months. Loved it at first then started finding all the screw ups samsung made. Flashed every custom rom i could find. Seemed like i was constantly trying to fix something that was borked. Love the streak. Not NEARLY as many problems as plague the galaxy s phones. Just read their forums. Gps problem this......lag problem that.......etc etc. All true. Big headache.
Go for the Streak, with some simple tweaking it rocks. No other phone even comes close.
Great to hear streak has good potentials cause I just ordered mine at usd$154 on starhub 2 year contract.
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Oh dear! Yesterday it was 3-0 against Streak. Two points for Streak today and now the margin is 3-2 against Streak!
From what I understand, none of them is perfect, but the question is which one is more productive?
Galaxy S does seem to have a lot of bugs which again pushes me to opt for HD2. Mind you my original choice was Streak, and the reason I am reconsidering my decision is lack of development on software.
Streak 1 man show (DJ Steve as a Dev) do we need more NOOo, I don't want to have 150 different thread with roms, and an extra 300 threads of people crying about stuff not working, LAGFIX what lagfix we dont even have lag, I'm still running Steve's 1.1.1. I have and will NEVER run Official anything on my Streak, I have a friend with an X10, it has some issues, for example no stable froyo no multi touch, not enough ram, colrs are not displayed correctly, Galaxy S, you need Lagfix WTF is dat? will never know, GPS fix... and so. I have zero issues besides my faulty internal memory and perhaps the most annoying i can find on my streak is that the compass is a little bit off by 3 degrees or so. But I love this one man show everything runs smoothly I don't get crazy force close, shut downs, reboots, I don't need to load roms using a PC I just copy update.zip to an SD bam ROM flashing on the road. can you that with Samsung? Sony ? no I haven't mentioned HTC because I havent played with one yet but I'll drop it here too if I use one.
to add more HD2 someone metioned WinMo 6.5 that can run Froyo with no issues and I bet thtat's what the OP will be doing
At the end you pick what you think is best for you, personal choice Streak wins all the way, I'm not a person who is always talking on the phone I browse and text more than what I talk hence my inclination towards the streak.
and which one is more productive? good question some say more "royalty space" or screen area makes you more productive hence dual monitors @ offices and stuff. So there you go that feeds my answer so go Streak!!!
Samsung releases devices then moves on. Be careful believing they'll roll out upgrade after upgrade.
People can complain about Dell's decision to put 1.6 on the device, but they've promised 2.2 by end of year all along.
I want froyo... but 1.6 on the Streak is still very solid.
To me the question when buying the Streak is exclusively about form factor. If you want a big pocketable device... the Streak is great.
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CGI_Ram said:
Samsung releases devices then moves on. Be careful believing they'll roll out upgrade after upgrade.
People can complain about Dell's decision to put 1.6 on the device, but they've promised 2.2 by end of year all along.
I want froyo... but 1.6 on the Streak is still very solid.
To me the question when buying the Streak is exclusively about form factor. If you want a big pocketable device... the Streak is great.
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Agree with all of the above, +1 for the Dell Streak!
100% Streak
I've had the streak since day 1 that it was sold in the US, and I've done all the ROM's that DJ_Steve has released (Man, that guy is crazy amazing) I used to be the guy who got a new phone every month, trying to find something even better. And now, I've had the streak for a while. Its just so....big. There's nothing like pulling out your phone and watching a movie on the go on a big screen like this. There's no way I can go back to a smaller phone. And for the people complaining about performance, sure, I can see that if you remained on the stock 1.6 (even then, it wasn't so bad) But with the mods and RoM's that are coming out rather regularly, this phone blows everything out of the water by a long shot. Highly recommend
for Dell Streak owners for 2 months +
How is the battery life in Android 1.6 and Android 2.2 ( froyo ) for a multi-tasking usage ( GPS , browsing through 3G , browsing through Wi-Fi , listening to music , watching videos or movies )
You feedback are highly appreciated
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Khalid - Computerized
My HTC HD2 died from touchscreen death...so its fresh in my head.
To me this streak i got to replace it is head and shoulders over the HTC HD2.
yes its bigger but its proportional to an HD2 so your not walking around with a giant square screen or nothing. the Streak fits nicely in your hand.
i could not be happier with this streak..
I came from a HD2 and I loved the phone, after my contract ended, I did consider just sticking with it cos I couldn't think of a phone that was better than it and did not want to go backwards with screen size, until I randomly walked into an O2 store and saw this monster and had no idea what it was, had a play around and I liked it, youtube more of it when I got home and thought I really want it.....more than anything it was just the sheer size that sold it to me....never used android before and I've only heard good things about it....so I thought what the hell, and I have to say....not been disappointed at all.
I've been on 1.6 since I got it in July and I've been happy with it, but just recently, after installing the official 2.2, it changed everything and I can't believe how much quicker it is, especially after some extra tweeks. The phone still has some problems but not enough for me to hate it and if you look around, I'm sure you'll find quite a few threads of people complaining about his that and the other with some people truely hating the phone. But if your a patient person who doesn't let the little things annoy you too much then the Streak will be great to use.
But if you want a solid phone, then you won't go wrong with the HD2, I would have loved to try Froyo on that bad boy. HTC did a really good job of stuffing the phone with a great UI and lots of little features. When showing the phone of to my mates, I could sell it to them with this feature and that feature, but now with my Streak...I can't really think of anything to try and show them bar showing them how awesome the massive screen is. It's almost like HTC made the HD2 awesome for your where as you have to make the Dell awesome for yourself if you know what I mean (having to install updated firmware, fill you phone with lots of apps, choosing your own UI etc).
As for the Galaxy S, I really didn't like the feel of the phone itself, fair enough it has Froyo with a good UI and lots of little features, but the phone felt soooo cheap and tacky I didn't think much of it, where as the Dell streak feels nice to hold (it's not perfect, bit of flex, slightly loose creeking panels) and the HD2 was even better and felt really solid (though didn't like the curved back with the sharp camera pointing out).
Sorry for the long post but thought it would help with the more detailed opinion. Let us know what you decide.
Keethos said:
I came from a HD2 and I loved the phone, after my contract ended, I did consider just sticking with it cos I couldn't think of a phone that was better than it and did not want to go backwards with screen size, until I randomly walked into an O2 store and saw this monster and had no idea what it was, had a play around and I liked it, youtube more of it when I got home and thought I really want it.....more than anything it was just the sheer size that sold it to me....never used android before and I've only heard good things about it....so I thought what the hell, and I have to say....not been disappointed at all.
I've been on 1.6 since I got it in July and I've been happy with it, but just recently, after installing the official 2.2, it changed everything and I can't believe how much quicker it is, especially after some extra tweeks. The phone still has some problems but not enough for me to hate it and if you look around, I'm sure you'll find quite a few threads of people complaining about his that and the other with some people truely hating the phone. But if your a patient person who doesn't let the little things annoy you too much then the Streak will be great to use.
But if you want a solid phone, then you won't go wrong with the HD2, I would have loved to try Froyo on that bad boy. HTC did a really good job of stuffing the phone with a great UI and lots of little features. When showing the phone of to my mates, I could sell it to them with this feature and that feature, but now with my Streak...I can't really think of anything to try and show them bar showing them how awesome the massive screen is. It's almost like HTC made the HD2 awesome for your where as you have to make the Dell awesome for yourself if you know what I mean (having to install updated firmware, fill you phone with lots of apps, choosing your own UI etc).
As for the Galaxy S, I really didn't like the feel of the phone itself, fair enough it has Froyo with a good UI and lots of little features, but the phone felt soooo cheap and tacky I didn't think much of it, where as the Dell streak feels nice to hold (it's not perfect, bit of flex, slightly loose creeking panels) and the HD2 was even better and felt really solid (though didn't like the curved back with the sharp camera pointing out).
Sorry for the long post but thought it would help with the more detailed opinion. Let us know what you decide.
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No doubt, Sense is good, I like it a lot. Recommended the HD2 to a friend of mine and he is very happy with it, out of the box. The basic software on the Streak is quite bland, but now that I have customized my setup it looks and works great, too. Straight stock Android is really ugly, however, just like WinMo you can turn it into whatever you want. You can get Sense on Android, too and it has all the bells and whistles as on WinMo --- just not on this 5" monster.
I have had my Streak since day one of uk release..it's the best phone I've ever had and to be honest Its the only phone that I haven't thought about upgrading / selling on ebay after 6months.
I used to use my laptop for everything now I rarely use my laptop for anything as it's always just pull out the streak and away I go.
And ever since we got Froyo on it (thanks DJ Steve) it's just amazing.. as I said used to use Laptop for BBC Iplayer, now just watch it on the streak!
Yes I agree People will buy what they need but everyone should at least consider the streak... especially if there trying to cutdown the carry weight of day to day gadgets!
Agreed, I'm lost for ideas fir what to buy myself for christmas this year. Last year I ordered an N900 but it kept getting delayed so I bought the milestone. And finally THE STREAK arrived!
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