Finally - not dissapointed - Hero, G2 Touch General

I just felt the need to declare my genuine satisfaction with the hero.
For the first time with a phone I haven't felt cheated. I did so much reading on here first and was expecting a few teething problems but it has been superb.
The build quality, the UI, the OS have delivered everything I hoped and surprised me with more than I expected. It's my full time phone, email, music player, satnav, browser and the app store is turning out nicely. Its such a contrast from the Windows mobile experience of the last 4 years.
Had to tell you folks because they think its sad here at home I can be this pleased with a Phone!

Yay, another happy customer!!
I am also really happy with my Hero. Does everything I expect and need and then some. I do question some of the build quality though, the back cover can be slightly flimsy, but I am overall delighted.
My wife on the other hand is completely uninterested!

yeh, I'm really happy with the Hero as well, my girl friend hates the chin, as do a lot of other girls that have seen the phone, But I think the chin is very sleek.
The chin makes it look unique.
The UI is great.
Capacitive screen is amazing.
I'm just hoping for some sort of update from Google that will enable system wide multitouch and proper bluetooth functionality without the need for rooting.

Me too. I absolutely love the thing, and it's more than taken care of the iPhone cravings I had until recently. It's better looking, more powerful (in terms of multitasking and so on), and has a app store not gaurded by facists. And it integrates beautifully with the Google services, which I've been using for years.
I wouldn't change it for anything, and the thought of going back to a WM device actually makes me feel slightly sick :|

The Jones said:
My wife on the other hand is completely uninterested!
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I bought the phone as a present for my wife, her first smartphone.
She seems more interested in it than me!
Actually the thing that amazed me most about the phone is how easily she learned how to use it and like it.
I'm used to windows mobile where you need extensive experience in order to get things to work the way you want.
With the Hero everything, or at least most, works as it should out of the box.
IMHO HTC has done a great job with this phone, I am truly impressed.

I like the ease of use, but also the potential to get really technical with it if you so desire. iPhone is too simple, WinMo is too technical but Hero-flavoured Android hits the mark perfectly.

I couldn't agree more, first HTC phone was an MDA Compact II, followed by a Vario II, then a Vario III and then a Raphael. Didn't think it could get much better than the Raph, was totally in love with it, but Wow, the Hero has blown me away, had it nearly two weeks now and still can't leave it alone.

I have to agree with the OP, this device is excellent so far. It feels solid and the display's brilliant.
The one thing I don't like is the inability to close down apps that you've finished with properly but that's an Android thing, so I'm told.

Taskiller in the market can help you, but Android shuts things down as and when you run out of resources, so generally not a problem.

I've been using that 'Taskilller' app but it seems to shut down my UI, even if I only shut down certain processes.

I am extremely satisfied... I come from years of WM and so far so good. OK the Sense UI goes a little slow at times but as I previously wrote, nowhere near as slow as TouchFlow when it was first released.... and have seen the improvements HTC made with TFl3D on the Diamond 2, this UI has LOADS of potential!! I am personally enjoying the new challenge of learning and cooking Android

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I've been using that 'Taskilller' app but it seems to shut down my UI, even if I only shut down certain processes.
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Add TouchFlow to your ignore list to avoid that.

Thanks mate.

Its a great phone , i just have reservations about the build quality.
The LEDS on mine packed up after 10 days use others have gone after 3-4 days.
i think the form factor and the OS are great, but i am concerned about reliabilty

I have taken Taskiller off for the last couple of days to see how the system copes on its own shutting things down when it needs to. To be honest there have been less slow downs and pauses than before. Mind you I have updated the Copilot software and that might have something to do with it as the difference in the way the app runs is massive.

The LED's are a firmware issue aren't they? Hopefully HTC will release an update and square things away, then this phone will be pretty close to perfect (a camera flash would be sweet and a faster processor but we can't have everything ).

Less aggressive compression on the photos and a larger frame size for video would be perfect... and possible with software.

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The LED's are a firmware issue aren't they? Hopefully HTC will release an update and square things away,) ).
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The tech guy at the store i returned mine back to thought not, if so why do some fail and others not on the same firmware?
maybe most are fine and a few of us were just unlucky , however only time will tell whether this is a rare occurance or a bigger issue

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The one thing I don't like is the inability to close down apps that you've finished with properly but that's an Android thing, so I'm told.
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Just forget about it, and let the OS deal with it. It is designed to do so, and does it well. You're wasting your time with a task manager.

Ok- just gone up in my estimation! Just accidentally fired it across the the room with wet hands rescuing it from the dog.
Not a mark and everything still works. Know I am lucky but still impressed
I hate that tight feeling in my throat when something goes wrong and its entirely my fault!

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Fresh Air [Post your positive testimonials here!]

Hi everyone, long time reader, first time threader. I've been reading alot about the Nexus One and without going into a ****load of detail, as you all know, the forums do attract alot of negative reviews, only because, obviously, the masses of people out there who are happy with their shiny new handset are sitting back, playing with their gadget, probably laughing at the world.
My phone arrives tomorrow, so I thought it would be interesting to start a thread that everyone can post their positive, satisfied testimonials in. If this thread fails I will take that as a fail over all.
Nothing negative here, if you're happy with your new Nexus let everyone know here. Over 9,000 pages.
I think that is a very good initiative !
In a couple of hours my phone should arrive.. i'll post my first-hand thoughts !
Mine is awesome. I have none of the issues everyone is talking about. In particular, I like the battery life compared to my last htc, and how easy it was to pair to my 3 cars.
Very happy
As a mover from WinMo to the N1 I am very happy. I still have plenty of learning to do about Android and will root when I think the community has enough tools to make it really worth it, but my first impressions are that this is a good quality handset that feels good in the hand and is very responsive.
I have been using it for 10 days and wouldn't consider any of the small challenges I've had anything more than an ignorance of what Android is possible of.
I hope you have as good an experience as I have
I've been a long time iPhone (jailbroken) user and have just got into the Android scene with my Nexus One.
I must say,...I'm absolutely loving the device,..my 3GS feels dated in comparison! I'd still say the iPhone OS has more polish then the current iteration of Android 2.1, but know that won't be for too much longer.
Loving the Android community too!
Time to sell that 3GS on ebay
Very Very Happy
I would like to say that I am very happy with the phone having played about with it for the last 3 days. It is everything I expected it to be and the more apps/widgets I add the more impressed I am with it.
Being a smart/internet phone it heavily relies on a good connection. On 3g/WIFI it is easily the best phone I have used and in terms of ease of use and speed it matches the iphone.
I had to set up the APN settings after I got the phone and ever since then the connection has been fine. Please note that on GPRS the speed is not that great - which is not a fault of the phone.
It surpasses the iphone in terms of customizability and the fact that you can have a number of apps running at the same time without ANY slowing down! ON a Jail broken iphone everything bugged down due to multiple apps being used.
I only need a decent case now as it has slipped out of my hand several times due to its slick design!
Overall - very impressed, very happy, absolutely no regrets about not getting the iphone which was the only other alternative I was considering.
Great phone
I went from having a G1 since February last year over to getting the nexus last monday (ordered it a couple of hours after the press conference). All i can say is... wow!!!
Well, actually i can say some more things ;-) This piece of aluminium and glass is lightning quick. It's slim, it has the best phone-screen that i have ever seen, Android 2.1 looks extremely nice (like what they replaced the drawer with). Not having physical buttons is no problem since it have tactile feedback (takes a couple of minutes to get used to but after that you don't really reflect over it).
My friend has the IXXXXX 3gs and we have compared web loading speed. Let me just say that the NE is always faster when it comes to loading the entire page. Sometimes it is twice as fast (we tried several urls of which neither of us had visited before - they were not cached). When you flipped the G1 over to the side, it sometimes took several seconds for the image to flip with it. On the NE it is instantanious.
As for the problems you guys have had with 3g->2g and back, i can't really say i've had these issues. Where i live (Sweden) it have worked rock solid since the beginning.
There exists one issue with the screen on the NE right now, but since is the praise-thread where we are all positive, i will save that for another thread
Kind regards
Daniel
I've been a long time WinMo and Blackberry user here, and the N1 is my first Android device.
I'd have to say, I'm definitely impressed. The hardware is slick and fast, I've had absolutely no issues with the phone other people have had (except no 3g coverage when I'm at work, but life goes on). Pictures are good for a phone, everything is just nice.
Once an N1 with a hardware keyboard comes out, I'll give the current N1 to the boyfriend as he's smitten with it and -hates- hardware keyboard, whereas I have to have a device with a hardware keyboard (work-related, I send emails like a fiend).
It plays Pokemon Ruby perfectly. And...it just works.
On a positive note as well, yesterday in my office with had a Blackberry (Tour), WinMo (Imagio), WebOS (Pre), iPhone (3gs) and of course my Nexus One. iPhone, WinMo and Blackberry users were aaall jealous (especially the iPhone user). The Pre guy likes it a lot as well, but not quite smitten.
Just see these videos and watch your juggernaut fight keys and scissors!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpGAW6L5x8U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfqwKa4bT74
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This is my and the n1'a one week anniversary and we will be celebrating tonite over wine and and a movie. Everyone make sure to tell your nexus how much you love it.
I have had nothing but good experiences with this phone, I don't even have to use the Keyboard!
If you want a breath of fresh ait go check out Twit.TV.
Specifically the Daily GizWiz #1007
http://twit.tv/dgw1007
**** DeBartolo and Leo Laporte both got N1's.
And on this one when they a don talknig about Google.cn they talk uo the N1 one for a while and it's features.
http://twit.tv/twig
Just thought I would share!
Lovin' it
Again - I have absolutely no complains about the nexus at all. It is the device that I have been waiting for so long, and it does not disappoint in any way. Had it for 2 weeks now and still can't stop playing with it. Can't think of any other bit of tech where the novelty hasn't worn off after a couple of days
So I received the phone 10 hours ago, and only let it out of my hand because I had to go to the toilet and eat.
Its fantastic.
Ditto, Ditto, Ditto to all the comments.
1 week old for me, moved from a Symbian. This is much better. Sorted out the sync process for my emails and calender (from Outlook - I love the fact I don't need to connect the phone to my PC to sync, I know it may well be days before I need to turn the PC on with this phone). No manufacture issues. Lots of looks from iphone droids (incl my gf!). Loads of Apps.
Can't wait for flash, because when that arrive, there will be no beating this sweet bit of kit - oh yes, and the price, for a SIM free, £360 delivered (subject to possible VAT) is an awesome price!
I can't praise this enough! I simply see it as a HTC with a google ad/logo on it!! Nothing wrong with that in my eyes.
My Nexus One is really fun to just poke at the background of.
Well I mean it just does everything my myTouch 3G did except better, and that's really what I wanted
I use mine on the toilet! (I know; that is grody.) It is that hard to part from the phone. I'm coming from a rooted G1 that I spent a lot of time playing around with.
In comparison to the iPhone, Android + Nexus One hardware makes it far superior. Not saying the iPhone isn't a great piece of hardware in its own respect, I just think the marketing that went behind it has implanted the idea that it is the most superior phone out there. To me, the Nexus One has disproved that. I can actually have a phone with a background (live wallpapers, FTW) and not populated with a bunch of squares (widgets, FTW). I can actually view all my notifications and have quick access to them via simple swipe of the notification bar.
I use text-to-speech on this phone as I did on my G1. SayMyName is quite useful (despite some bugs on the N1, it reads the contact number not the name). On my G1, SayMyName would slow my calls down and it would ring 4-5 times before actually giving me a chance to pick up. Not so much on the N1. It is instant.
Camera takes nice pictures. Navigation works great (used it on the G1, but should be same on the N1, just faster). The screen is pretty, very pretty. Simply put, this phone is awesome!
I apologize for my ramblings; I've been getting a lot of flak from iPhone users. I hope everyone enjoys their Nexus One as much as I do.
I've used WinMo devices for the past five years or so (Since O2 XDA). Latest one was a HTC Touch Diamond.
I've been using my Nexus One now for a week and it never stops to amaze me. I thought my Touch Diamond was pretty neat, but compared to the speed and ease-of-use of Android on this blazingly fast N1... it's just awesome. And (unlike my Touch Diamond) it doesn't need soft resets three times a day....
Mine is really awesome. I have none of the issues some are talking about. In particular, I like the Speed, UI, Design, Flexability, Customizing, etc...Did I mention Fast
Got mine ~4 hours ago. After reading through these forums the past day to see what problems I might expect, the only issue I saw, but was prepared for, was one edge of the screen wasn't sealed. Turned the hairdryer on it for ~30 seconds, pressed down and the screen stuck. No dust was under the screen straight out of the plastic protector. No 3G swapping issues (T-Mobile).
Impressive piece of kit, especially coming from a Dash where some keys weren't working and sound quality had gone to crap.
Compared to my wife's MyTouch 3G, the Android keyboard is waaaay easier to get keys on the outer edge to register. It usually takes me a few tries on the wife's, but the N1 keys register on the first try.
Very happy ~4 hours in.
Had it around a week and a half now. Absolutely love it! After spending so many years with WinMo I can't describe the difference. Such a great piece of hardware too.

Advice: Nexus One over iPhone (not quite a vs. thread)

So I am looking to purchase a Nexus One sometime within the next month or so. I'm an AT&T user and currently am using the FUZE with a custom ROM and running the Eclair XDAndroid build, which obviously doesn't compare to a real android device in any way, shape, or form. I'm completely aware of the features and abilities of both the iPhone and the N1, so this isn't really a feature comparison thread. On paper I know what the N1 is capable of, and everyone I know (literally) has a freaking iPhone so I know what that is capable of in the real world with real use.
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
I know this probably seems like a dumb thread, but I've searched and I've heard all the comparisons for features, but I just want to hear your comparisons through actual real world experience with the device (even if you haven't use the iPhone. Oh, and I did see the CNET video of the iPhone vs N1 brawl and that definitely is helping me lean more and more towards the N1.
Any advice would be great. Just please don't turn this into a flame war, both phones are fantastic in their own ways.
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So I am looking to purchase a Nexus One sometime within the next month or so. I'm an AT&T user and currently am using the FUZE with a custom ROM and running the Eclair XDAndroid build, which obviously doesn't compare to a real android device in any way, shape, or form. I'm completely aware of the features and abilities of both the iPhone and the N1, so this isn't really a feature comparison thread. On paper I know what the N1 is capable of, and everyone I know (literally) has a freaking iPhone so I know what that is capable of in the real world with real use.
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
I know this probably seems like a dumb thread, but I've searched and I've heard all the comparisons for features, but I just want to hear your comparisons through actual real world experience with the device (even if you haven't use the iPhone. Oh, and I did see the CNET video of the iPhone vs N1 brawl and that definitely is helping me lean more and more towards the N1.
Any advice would be great. Just please don't turn this into a flame war, both phones are fantastic in their own ways.
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they're both amazing.
the nexus one is great. features and all. but after like three months, you kinda want your iphone back.. or i do at least.
depending on the 4th Generation iPhone, i may upgrade.
for the time being though, i LOVE my nexus one..
buy it if you are having any doubts. you wont be sorry.
all those issues only apply to a select few or to people that have major ocd..i did like my iphone but i didnt love it..i love my nexus one its a really great phone..i love that i can use it to tether too my laptop, use it as BRIGHT flash light, customize it too my liking, and not having to deal with iphone.
The one thing i did miss when i went back to android from my iphone was the games..iphone games are really really nice but that feeling has gone away since now alot of the 3d games on the iphone are being made for android.
the iphone is a great phone but the UI is sooooooooooo boring..i hated that 4x4 icon page on it.i love having widgets
so to sum it all up get a nexus one......and a ipad ahah
That's kind of my worry. I don't have that kind of money to throw around every couple of months, I don't want to invest all that money and in a couple of months just be jealous of all my friends with iPhones. But it is nice to hear you love your N1, the only apple fanboy thing I'm into is their operating system, anything outside of that I'm not really a huge fan of Apple (I stuck with WinMo just because I could customize it without hassle, unlike the iPhone which is a risk to brick every time you jailbreak it and there's a firmware update)
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That's kind of my worry. I don't have that kind of money to throw around every couple of months, I don't want to invest all that money and in a couple of months just be jealous of all my friends with iPhones. But it is nice to hear you love your N1, the only apple fanboy thing I'm into is their operating system, anything outside of that I'm not really a huge fan of Apple (I stuck with WinMo just because I could customize it without hassle, unlike the iPhone which is a risk to brick every time you jailbreak it and there's a firmware update)
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ya i love my macbook its the best thing that ever happened to me ahah..and honestly the chance of bricking and iphone while jailbreaking is slim to none but its a pain when apple is constantly sending you updates to unjailbreak it..trust me you will not be jealous of their iphones
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all those issues only apply to a select few or to people that have major ocd..i did like my iphone but i didnt love it..i love my nexus one its a really great phone..i love that i can use it to tether too my laptop, use it as BRIGHT flash light, customize it too my liking, and not having to deal with iphone.
The one thing i did miss when i went back to android from my iphone was the games..iphone games are really really nice but that feeling has gone away since now alot of the 3d games on the iphone are being made for android.
the iphone is a great phone but the UI is sooooooooooo boring..i hated that 4x4 icon page on it.i love having widgets
so to sum it all up get a nexus one......and a ipad ahah
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Awesome note with the games though, I don't play games on my phone much (sadly I'm horribly addicted to solitaire...haha) so I never really got into the games aspect, I only have one or two on my iPod Touch, most of the time I use the basic Apps which are also available on Android (twitter, facebook, shazaam, things like that). So that's a good thing to keep in mind.
I think one of my biggest worries is battery life. I don't work a job where I can charge my phone at all throughout the day, and there are times I leave at 8am and don't get home until 7pm or later, and I don't want to have to worry that my phone won't make it. My WinMo phone always ends at around 60% with standard/moderate use so I never have to worry about running home to get a charge if I get hung up after work.
idk man, by far the best phone i have ever owned so far. (may be contradicting to what i just said but i literally do not care)
features list is just BOOM!
battery is amazing for me. no dead pixels. saturated screen. bright flashlight (nexus one torch).. idk so many to list.
if you wanna buy RIGHT NOW. go for the nexus one,
but
if you can wait til July...... wait. becuase you may regret it if you dont have the money to buy the newest badass thing, like maybe the 4Gen iPhone, and new product from HTC, or anyone... really its all so hard to tell but if you can wait, i think that'd be in your best interest.
and the only thing i miss about the iphone thats slowly sucking me back in (happens about twice a year, ive owned all the iphones and sold them too haha) is the slickkkkkk UI. the LARGE community and the apps that actually work clean, and flawlessly. the iphones' transition between homescreens is definitely smooth as butter. nexus one? smooth as sand paper.. the ability to take screen shots on the iphone with ease... idk.. haha
nexus one last me a whole a day with heavy usage (texting, internet, games, music, calling) i disagree with the slick UI..iphone has a HORRIBLE UI in my opinion its too plain and transition is just as smooth..the community for android is also huge and screenshots is easy too..just shake the phone (shootme app on market)
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nexus one last me a whole a day with heavy usage (texting, internet, games, music, calling) i disagree with the slick UI..iphone has a HORRIBLE UI in my opinion its too plain and transition is just as smooth..the community for android is also huge and screenshots is easy too..just shake the phone (shootme app on market)
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slick as in quick and easy i guess?
and my nexus easily lasts me 1.5+ days under HEAVY usage.
cool i didnt know about that app! thanks!
although you dont need an app for the iphone haha
lol well i never really got a chance to test past 1.5 days lol i charge it when im go to bed but it usually has 40 percent at the time ( i got to bed like at 1-2 am lol)
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lol well i never really got a chance to test past 1.5 days lol i charge it when im go to bed but it usually has 40 percent at the time ( i got to bed like at 1-2 am lol)
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i totally agree.. just one night i forgot to plug it in. died later that day though (didnt necessarily let it "die" i just shut it off at like 2%)
My phone is simply perfect. No issues whatsoever, apparently I am one of the lucky Nexus owners. The only thing though, I do like about the iPhone more - is the UI polish. Apple is simply great at designing things. I'm ok though, as long as I have a Desire ROM. HTC Sense is quite nice.
Youll be happy with the nexus. It is great now and stands to realize much of its latent potential if Google wants it to. If you've had an iPhone you will definitely be disappointed in the touch screen. It's possible though that Android might be able to iron out some of the jittery, jumpiness of the nexus touch screen. But its a decent screen,those who have never used an iPhone think the nexus has the best touch screen there is so its definitely not a deal breaker.
Also, the nexus has higher resolution but I don't think there's and denying that the iPhone just looks crisper, especially the browser. But the nexus gpu definitely loads pages faster. I think I'm just rambling now...
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Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
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Multitasking
The fact that it's unique and NOT an iPhone that everyone and their mother has
Customization
Live wallpapers
High resolution (2.5 times the iPhone)
Flash Lite
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Also, the nexus has higher resolution but I don't think there's and denying that the iPhone just looks crisper, especially the browser.
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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, what?
No denying that? I 10000% heartily deny that. Disagree to the nth power.
lostinbeta said:
So I am looking to purchase a Nexus One sometime within the next month or so. I'm an AT&T user and currently am using the FUZE with a custom ROM and running the Eclair XDAndroid build, which obviously doesn't compare to a real android device in any way, shape, or form. I'm completely aware of the features and abilities of both the iPhone and the N1, so this isn't really a feature comparison thread. On paper I know what the N1 is capable of, and everyone I know (literally) has a freaking iPhone so I know what that is capable of in the real world with real use.
Getting to the point, since you folks have been using the N1, may I ask what you like about your N1 over the iPhone? I'm following threads and seeing people with dust complaints, tinted screens, horrifying battery life, the touch sensitive buttons at the bottom not responding... and I'm just struggling on convincing myself to spend over $530 USD on a phone that could cause me problems over spending $300 USD on an iPhone that I know performs very well and already has a ton of memory built in, but lacks everything else that I want in the N1. Are most of these issues from earlier models of the phone? Do they occur more in say the T-Mobile version over the AT&T version (or vice-versa)?
I know this probably seems like a dumb thread, but I've searched and I've heard all the comparisons for features, but I just want to hear your comparisons through actual real world experience with the device (even if you haven't use the iPhone. Oh, and I did see the CNET video of the iPhone vs N1 brawl and that definitely is helping me lean more and more towards the N1.
Any advice would be great. Just please don't turn this into a flame war, both phones are fantastic in their own ways.
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It all comes down to your personal preference. You can read all types of reviews and you'll see that Nexus One wins over iPhone 3GS. The features of the phone are outstanding. Just ask yourself what you want in your phone. If you want lots of applications, music, go for iPhone but if you want free applications, customizations, widgets, great camera, blazing fast web experience, go for Nexus One. Its just a matter of time before android applications touch the mark set by iPhone. Once you root your Nexus One, its going to be a whole world of possibilities....
For the issues you read about Nexus One, I want to tell you that the tinted screen is only present in the newer devices which would be very soon fixed by an update. The capacitive buttons work perfectly when pressed on the upper half of the button. The dust problem is present in a very small no. or hardwares and if you live in US, then you can call for a replacement if it happens with you.
Android would very soon be taken up by most of the mobile makers as its open sourced and free. I read somewhere that the phone companies who have taken up android OS have to pay very little in comparison to Windows Mobile.
So go for Nexus One, you wont be sorry....
Here's what I wrote in another forum regarding this question:
Having thought about it I realised that the choice to go for an N1 is easy if it fits your needs. Since it has been released all the focus has been on how it compares to the iphone. Understandable as apple set a high bar with many features such as the apps, the graphical physics and ease of use. The n1 more or less matches them and comparing many of these features doesn't get you far. They both are fantastic bits of hardware, great screens, amazing computing power, touchscreens etc. In some ways the N1 performs a bit better in others the iphone but the differences between them are small.
However I think the N1 has gone to a new level with features the iphone simply hasn't got. I don't have to open an app to access the information I want. My calender, agenda, weather, news, daily Bible reading, personal photo's, music player (and playlists) one touch dialling to favourite contacts (and many other thing I don't use) all run on my home pages. And here's where it moves mobile information on; all these widgets update automatically and wirelessly. I don't have to plug my phone into my computer to update my agenda, it happen without hassle right onto my homescreen. Furthermore these services are free - and yes I did pay for mobile me and no its not worth it.
Bottom line is that both the iphone and the N1 are great bits of kit, you won't notice many gains in function between either hardware as far as I can tell but the software has moved on from simply apps. Unfortunately the press just focus on the things that you can compare but the how can you compare widget on a N1 to nothing on the iphone? The N1 is in a different class to the iphone because it does things the iphone can't dream of doing, try to keep up apple!
Thank You everybody. Your advice has been helpful. I actually feel that the Android UI is nicer than the iPhone, to me the iPhone seems plain. Though I will admit that the iPhone is probably a little more user friendly, I don't mind the extra clicks on Android, and it's not like it's difficult to figure out by any stretch of the means. And it's good to know that the issues people are having are only occurring in a small percentage of devices, I was really worried that I would throw down that kind of money and have a jacked phone that only lasted me half a day and had a dusty mis-tinted screen...haha. Hopefully I'll be able to get my N1 ordered by the end of this month.
The next step would be rooting. I don't think I'll root it until after the warranty is up, but I don't know, I said the same thing about ROMing my FUZE and that didn't happen. Though on an unrelated question, how come so many N1 ROM threads don't have screenshots of the ROM. The ShootMe app works great, I use it on my FUZE with Eclair. It just seems like a big risk to install a ROM without knowing what you're supposed to be getting.
actually its less clicks for android lol you know with the widgets and all..with the iphone it takes four clicks to modify your brightness for android it takes one, it takes 3 clicks to turn on wifi and bluetooth on iphone and on android it takes one, it takes 4 clicks for gps on iphone and android 1, it takes 3 clicks to post something on facebook and 1 on android (same for myspace), it takes takes 2 clicks to search on iphone and none on android..you see my point lol
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The next step would be rooting. I don't think I'll root it until after the warranty is up, but I don't know, I said the same thing about ROMing my FUZE and that didn't happen. Though on an unrelated question, how come so many N1 ROM threads don't have screenshots of the ROM. The ShootMe app works great, I use it on my FUZE with Eclair. It just seems like a big risk to install a ROM without knowing what you're supposed to be getting.
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Warranty is 1 year, you will get hot feet by then. There should be desire screenshots around. CyanogenMod's UI is identical to stock, extra features being the selling point.
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slick as in quick and easy i guess?
and my nexus easily lasts me 1.5+ days under HEAVY usage.
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Are you running on the HTC Li-Ion battery or some new U-235 battery?
The Nexus One is great. I don't have complaints so far other than the tiny loudspeaker. Heard that the Desire ROM gives it a louder volume. Anyway, like someone has pointed out, if you can wait until June, I would wait. I think Apple sees the Android OS as a thread so they must be building something big for the iphone 4Gen. The iphone 4Gen will probably be better the Nexus One... BUT I am confident that the Nexus Two or whatever Google wants to release in the future will take over eventually
Not saying the Nexus One will lose to the 4Gen for sure. Remember FroYo and Flash 10 are coming to the Nexus One.

Are you happy with your x10? (YES/NO) And Why?

Please vote and post why you like your x10
And if you could have any phone right now other than x10 what would it be?
I own a Sensuous Black Xperia X10i and its one of the best phones out there. Though it has Android 1.6, it offers everything i want. It looks cool, works well, i get a good battery life. Am very satisfied with the phone
Yes,
Because I bought it! It has the design factor I am looking for, its android and its white and its Sony + its a perfect size, not too big like HD2 and not too small like iphone. It fits in hand really nicely. Since I like tech, I wished it had the most updated android as well but I will wait.
VERY happy with my X10!!! I sold my Nexus One running 2.2 for it. Never once did I look back and say "damn, why did I do that". Although the X10 is only running 1.6 it does a damn good job at it. The phone is sexy as hell, far better looking than alot of others out there imo anyway...and when 2.1 hits its gonna be SWEET!!!!
ps. I was all hyped about 2.2 when I had my nexus, when I got it ota I was very disapointed! all the hype for absolutly NO difference in my opinion....a couple extra useless options and did not notice any speed difference...so with the X10 just dropping 2.1 im totally cool with it.
No I am not happy with the Xperia x10 (I have the black one)
It looks cool as all hell, and has a nice display, but these problems are quite upsetting:
1. So sign of multi touch ever (Its important to me, dont care is anyone else cares or not)
2. I can hear people fine, though a bit quiet, but other can't hear me sometimes.
3. Typing on it is hard.
4. Screen collects fingerprints and does not have an oil resistant coating.
I find the phone runs fast, smooth. And I love the camera, but I can't put up with these issues.
Hope that someone accepts my offer to trade me either an iphone 3gs or 4
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No I am not happy with the Xperia x10 (I have the black one)
3. Typing on it is hard.
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Typing on any touchscreen is a bit of a challenge with a full QWERTY keyboard - but withAndroid (even 1.6 ) you can install a plethora of other input options (ie. Swype, which is faster and easiter than anything ever.)
Oh, yeah, and I love my x10.
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VERY happy with my X10!!! I sold my Nexus One running 2.2 for it. Never once did I look back and say "damn, why did I do that". Although the X10 is only running 1.6 it does a damn good job at it. The phone is sexy as hell, far better looking than alot of others out there imo anyway...and when 2.1 hits its gonna be SWEET!!!!
ps. I was all hyped about 2.2 when I had my nexus, when I got it ota I was very disapointed! all the hype for absolutly NO difference in my opinion....a couple extra useless options and did not notice any speed difference...so with the X10 just dropping 2.1 im totally cool with it.
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Yup was totally disappointed with the N1 the X10 is much better IMO. All the hype with 2.2 is overblown. On the N1 I didn't see the dramatic speed improvements. I don't even know what Google was thinking releasing Activesync support in the half broken state they did, at least in terms of corp. email support. I am curious to see how much faster the X10 will be with 2.1 on it.
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Typing on any touchscreen is a bit of a challenge with a full QWERTY keyboard - but withAndroid (even 1.6 ) you can install a plethora of other input options (ie. Swype, which is faster and easiter than anything ever.)
Oh, yeah, and I love my x10.
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Yeah I installed the HTC keyboard and it was better. I honestly think that the lack of MT is causing me issues. I can type with my wives iphone 3GS no problem and I think its because I am a very fast texter, hell I text faster than I type! I think I end up hitting multiple keys with the x10 causing the errors.
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Yup was totally disappointed with the N1 the X10 is much better IMO. All the hype with 2.2 is overblown. On the N1 I didn't see the dramatic speed improvements. I don't even know what Google was thinking releasing Activesync support in the half broken state they did, at least in terms of corp. email support. I am curious to see how much faster the X10 will be with 2.1 on it.
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I can't say I was disappointed with the N1...but I sure was unhappy about froyo. While the N1 is without a doubt an awesome phone I love my X10 that much more. I can honestly say I don't want any other phone out there right now.
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No.
Bought it when the multi-touch announcement came about, was on the fence until that. Was later greeted by the fact that it lacks it from a hardware standpoint, after spending my $600. Thought it was alright, could live without it. Grew more and more annoyed with laggy software, and then the straw that broke the camel's back was that I started having random restarts.
My phone is now un-usable if there is a sim card inside (will restart on boot), and is waiting to be shipped out to SE for repair.
What phone would I get if I had the option? Probably the EVO 4G or the Iphone 4.
NO
i got SE X10 white
i admit its sexy as hell
but
1- in call volume is very low , i barely can hear people when im walkin in the streets
2- lack of MT
3- low amount of RAM unlinke nexus
4- it lags alot of times
YES.
I bought the phone the day it came out and it set me back bought 700$. Coming from an iPhone that wasn't jailbroken before ios having an x10 was a whole new view on freedom. It was first laggy at first, but after debrand, rooting, new software, etc. I'm starting to like this phone a lot. Only lags on lock screen.
Browsing is great on the huge screen and typing on the horizontal keyboard isn't awkward like the iPhone. Tactile feedback is great too. The only thing ill probably ***** about is no multitouch. Can't play fps games like on iPhone. But its only games.
Writing reports on the phone in documents to go is great too.
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Like the phone so much. I learn something new everyday. White has a killer looks. One guy who owns a 3GS told me after playing with my phone for your few minutes and after I shown him the demo movie that was on the phone, that he's going to buy one. Android Market is great, whatever you want your phone to do, there's an application in the Market that will make it happen...
I have the Sensuous Black too, and love it!
It's a Sony Ericsson, it's touch-screen, it's Android & it's a beautiful piece of equipment, and even if it wasn't getting an O.S upgrade would have still bought it. 1.6 gives me everything I need, so the upgrade is going to be nothing more than a bonus for me.
Yup, love mine with exception of bluetooth not working with my car kit. 9/10
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I'm not voting because I don't even know if I'm happy with my x10. Being my first Android phone, I can say that I'm having fun playing around with it, and its non-iPhone-like looks allows it to stand out from the crowd. Somehow, I'm having regrets on buying it, but I think I would probably still feel some regrets if I had gotten a Nexus One or Galaxy S (btw Galaxy S was available to me at $0, as was the X10). I guess I'm just not ready for the Android platform, as I still feel that it's much easier to make phone calls on a Symbian(Nokia) phone. Also, the lack of Ovi Maps and PuTTy on my new phone leaves much to be desired. Connectbot just doesn't cut it, as lots of page switching is required when using it with Full Keyboard. Not exactly the kind of hassle a VIM user would expect.
My other gripes with the X10 are probably the common ones mentioned throughout the X10 community, like the outdated OS, MT, yada yada. Still, I'd give anything to own an Android phone which doesn't look like the iPhone.
Edit: Hah, this is funny. About 30 minutes after I posted this message, I received an update notification about Connectbot. Turns out the new update allows me to send Ctrl and Esc without having to use Full Keyboard, so I'm all good with VIM now
i voted no because i got the phone the first month it was relased. so i just used it for one month and the phone died :'( from april till now trying to find a solution :'( wish it comes back to life some day... now im really thinking about getting an x10min pro and move on with my life right now just using the crazy wild x1
Hells yeah.
Absolutely no problems with the phone. Tons of great features!
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kkarnaout said:
i voted no because i got the phone the first month it was relased. so i just used it for one month and the phone died
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Where did you get it from?
EDIT: Just bumped one of your posts.
Maybe.
Why?
Because at the moment I don't have Wi Fi or a data plan, so I don't know the full features of the phone. I'm in a new country before school has started, so no contacts because I haven't made friends yet. So really, there is not much use for me except listening to a few songs and watching podcasts.
I personally like Apple's iTunes store to get applications and to easily transfer media to your device. There is no such online store for Android. It makes my life harder because you are forced to use an internet connection on your phone to get apps.
It also sucks that you can't make your computer internet connection (wired) into a wireless one for your phone to use. You can do the reverse, tethering, but no reverse-tethering.
Plus the battery life is concerning me. I'm forced to uninstall applications that I may use later on for a better battery life. My iPod touch has better battery life than the SE Xperia X10.
I'll just have to see after I get my Wi Fi working. At the moment I rarely even use my phone. Hopefully it turns into a miracle.

Happy x10 user

Let's try this for a change, instead whining about features you wish we had, let's talk about things we like about our beloved x10's.
I love the design, the screen and the camera. I'm glad we don't have multitouch, yes its good for emulator and games, but I hate silly multitouch gestures. I enjoy being able to use my phone with one hand.
Please share you're positive experiences and features you like.
Oh and for the love of god, nobody use this thread to bash the x10 there is already too many treads about crap.
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Good idea, lets keep this thread positive.
My favourite things about the X10 are:
1. The screen. It's bright, I can use it even in direct sunlight, it has a decent resolution with a "proper" aspect ratio of 16:9 and even with the "low" colour depth it works perfectly fine for watching videos, looking at photos I've taken and surfing the web.
2. The design. I have the black model and as far as I'm concerned it's the best looking phone out there. It has a nice B&O feel to it, it's pretty discrete and the minimal level of decoration isn't flashy or anything.
3. It feels solid. Compared to other phones I've owned or used for extended periods time I'd rank this in the top 5 when it comes to how it feels. The iPhone 3GS comes in at first place of course and in second place I'd put the HTC Diamond, it's built like a tank. After that it's a very close race between the X10 and the Blackstone but the X10 barely wins by not having any loose parts and proper buttons.
The X10 camera is the best i have ever used and i have taken more photos with this phone than any other
Best phone i ever had.
Best design arround,and as i see it only a new SE phone will take the crown.
Build quality: i read some were that it has the worst build quality, but we have a X10 ran over by a bus and still working, and one gone swimming for half an hour and still working. This has to mean something.
Screen is great.Big and bright.
Battery is also great. 2 days.
About the update it comes when it comes.
So all i can say that i am happy with my X10.
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The X10 camera is the best i have ever used and i have taken more photos with this phone than any other
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Wish the frame rate was quicker but same here. I find myself actually taking pictures with it! Can't say I really used the camera as much on any other phone I owned before this.
I have even taken a few with the X10 that have become amongst my favorite photos.
I agree with all the previous comments but I have to add one that will probably make some people gasp! lol
I actually like and use MediaScape. I like the (for lack of a proper term) "infinity functions" that link to Youtube videos and the ability to update or add album art directly on the phone. The ability to use all my existing playlists via MediaGo is also a great feature as I have a ZuneHD and now I can use the same playlists on both devices.
I am also very impressed with the battery life (since going back to the AT&T R2CA016 ROM). The original ROM was a little sluggish at times but since I rooted and removed the AT&T bloatware, the performance has been outstanding. Everything works smoothly and quickly. I also re-enabled the non-market apps by following the Captivate guide and adjusting it for the location of the settings.db on the X10.
I really prefer the physical keys over the soft buttons on most of the newer devices as well.
This phone does everything I need and most of what I want so I am extremely happy that I returned a Captivate and replaced it with the X10.
Best looking touch screen phone ever. If I have to take the form of non living creature, I want to be white X10s charger ;-)
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I also like mediascape, and with the coming updates it will only get better. As lacking as uxp can be in some areas, timescape for example. Se have put forward some brilliant ideas, and pulled of a fantastic first effort for android.
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This is by far the best looking phone i have ever owned, im a very happy with my X10. the lack of 2.1 is no reason to sell it, a month isnt that long to wait really.
Cracking camera imo
Fastest phone ive owned, not saying much since my last phone was a nokia 5800 Xpress music
all in all, happy with it, also i get satisfaction knowing im on a 2 year contract and the phone seems rather indestructible, run over by a bus and left in water for half an hour.
If a bluetooth fix came out i wouldnt give a monkeys to eclair, frozen yoghurt or spotted **** lol
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Great phones! Makes calls, writes texts..
Nothing else to add!
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As stated before, the design of this phone looks simply amazing, and the fact that it doesn't look like an iPhone (I'm looking at you Galaxy S) is a plus.
The touch response is great, and the screen itself looks wonderful, I always have the brightness jacked up fully just for this very reason.
One of the main reasons I bought this phone was simply for the fact that its specs more than doubled some aspects of my last phone (HTC Touch Diamond), and it shows. This phone is fast! I've never owned anything like this, having something so small that can run something that looks as good as Need For Speed: Shift is a great improvement over what I'm used to.
The build quality seems pretty solid, but I never really have any accidents with tech anyways.
And the camera, the camera is great! As said by someone else, I find myself taking more pictures with this than any other phone I've owned before.
Oh yeah, and the 3.5mm headphone jack is also great for me, I use it most of the time to stream internet radio in my car.
Also, once you dig your fingers into the framework and get rid of some of that monotonous blue, you can really have a nice looking ui on your hands (not that it looks HORRIBLE when it's stock)
That's it for now, I'm enjoying it!
Crocketeer said:
As stated before, the design of this phone looks simply amazing, and the fact that it doesn't look like an iPhone (I'm looking at you Galaxy S) is a plus.
The touch response is great, and the screen itself looks wonderful, I always have the brightness jacked up fully just for this very reason.
One of the main reasons I bought this phone was simply for the fact that its specs more than doubled some aspects of my last phone (HTC Touch Diamond), and it shows. This phone is fast! I've never owned anything like this, having something so small that can run something that looks as good as Need For Speed: Shift is a great improvement over what I'm used to.
The build quality seems pretty solid, but I never really have any accidents with tech anyways.
And the camera, the camera is great! As said by someone else, I find myself taking more pictures with this than any other phone I've owned before.
Oh yeah, and the 3.5mm headphone jack is also great for me, I use it most of the time to stream internet radio in my car.
Also, once you dig your fingers into the framework and get rid of some of that monotonous blue, you can really have a nice looking ui on your hands (not that it looks HORRIBLE when it's stock)
That's it for now, I'm enjoying it!
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How do u guys get need for speed to work? Ive downloaded the droidx 99mb rip from the droidx xda forum, but even after a clean flash it still says free up space on your device? Any tips?
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I returned an HTC Aria in favor of the X10, and even though the delay of the 2.1 update is frustrating, I am very happy with my purchase. The X10 is much more solid-feeling phone, with better battery life. I also think Sony Ericsson has a much better solution for managing media than HTC. Superior sound quality and a better camera than either my Aria or my iPhone as well.
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How do u guys get need for speed to work? Ive downloaded the droidx 99mb rip from the droidx xda forum, but even after a clean flash it still says free up space on your device? Any tips?
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Well i have no experience with android and after many years of being a palm freak i switched to iphone 2 years ago. It has done the job well and it was only when an offer came up in our newspaper that i decided to order the X10 for my daughters birthday on contract. My work has just upped my handset to the iphone 4 and after playing with the x10 for 2 days now and hearing an update is coming too then i am seriously considering giving my daughter the iphone 4 and keeping the x10 . It is like having an updated palm back . The screen is Brill , market store is tops and the customisation it offers hours of fun .... widgets are cool ... camera is best ive used
Im One happy X10 user
berbecverde said:
Best phone i ever had.
Best design arround,and as i see it only a new SE phone will take the crown.
Build quality: i read some were that it has the worst build quality, but we have a X10 ran over by a bus and still working, and one gone swimming for half an hour and still working. This has to mean something.
Screen is great.Big and bright.
Battery is also great. 2 days.
About the update it comes when it comes.
So all i can say that i am happy with my X10.
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lol cant really say much everyones already stated everything i love.
how do you manage to keep ur battery running two days :O plenty of people have said that but no one tellin me how. i just about manage to run it for half a day lol but other than that and the in call volume and updates i love the phone, best phone ive ever owned
Well, for me, what I like about it is because it's an Android, which is a competitor of the uPhone, and has more growing potentials than a Windows or Symbian phone.
Wanted to try out Nexus One, but as a multimedia fanatic, I read reviews that the music players are not really that satisfactory. So Rachael was an ideal choice since Sony has the upper hand when it comes to walkman-related stuff.
As for HTC, it's only natural to wanna try one, since there are alot of satisfied users out there, but the phones' designs were not as nice as Rachael's. (They even added a 'chin' to the Desire, which wasn't present on Nexus One)
So, yeah... Basically I only go for the beauty and the multimedia functions. OS versions are not really a big deal for me. True, I went gaga over the sight of Live Wallpapers, but then I can live without it. =D
The thing I like about Mediascape it the way the images were animated when they appear and disappear.
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lol cant really say much everyones already stated everything i love.
how do you manage to keep ur battery running two days :O plenty of people have said that but no one tellin me how. i just about manage to run it for half a day lol but other than that and the in call volume and updates i love the phone, best phone ive ever owned
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Hmm I guess there's no really a 'true way' about this, but I guess sucky battery life happens to new phones...
We all have experienced gradual stability of power drainage as time goes by. It's either the phone has grown accustomed to the battery, or vice versa, or that we have slowly become aware of how to avoid it?
Mine used to have it's power drop to 50% or more within 5 hours, without using it, and now it just drops like what? 3-10% by end day?
Give your phone some time. It will get better =)
I like it because its SE Design, only compnay which knows hardware design. I like it since its white color phone and because its running Android.

IF Samsung is listening -- Get your act together NOW !

I'm just venting my frustration (and such appologies to the forum moderators) but I do hope someone is listening.
I've had my SGS for about 2 weeks now. For the first time since I'm using _any_ sort of smartphone (many, many moons) these two weeks were constant tinkering, tweaking, lagfixing, trying leaked beta software etc. -- a LOT of frustration, with very little improvement.
So I came to this conclusion: You just cannot polish a turd
So, dear Samsung let me say it straight:
SGS is a POS. Get your act together, you are losing customers in drones. There is a good reason you are far behind HTC -- YOU SUCK
The irony of it all ? It's all in the SW -- the HW platform seems solid, with a good foundation. However, the horrible, horrible things they've done to the OS and -- not the least that HORRID TouchWhiz simply make me cringe. Personally, I would fire the project manager responsible for this abomination with a geostationary rocket.
In my personal case I've got this phone from work -- there is no chance in hell I would have handed out my hard earned cash for this POS. If, in a moment of insanity, I would have ever done so, not later than the day after I would be prompt back at my local Samsung rep and told them to stick that phone somewhere special and ask for a full refund then and there.
(Again, sincere appologies to the forum moderators -- I hope I am not breaching forum posting rules. At least not too many )
Not quite sure where your happy or content place is with your sgs but mine is with JH2 and the OCLF V2. Providing it doesn't blow up on me I think I could deal with this for a while. I feel your frustration though, the quest for perfection can certainly be less than gratifying.
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HTC also have their problems as well.
There is no perfect phone.
I owned TONS of smartphones, most by HTC: the ALL had issues.
In fact i moved away from HTC after the EVO Fiasco if the bad hardware build, 30fps cap after trying the N1 which that CHEAP screen!
There is no perfect phone. deal with it.
iphone is perfect except for restrictions on it by apple
hatin it how samsung keeps moving froyo release date
TS has a point
The topic starter has a point. Coming from a HTC Desire, you clearly experience the poor software. The HTC Desire works far better out of the box. I got my hands on a SGS through swapping providers, otherwise i would have stuck with HTC Desire.
On the other hand, its starting to grow on me, and i expect the Froyo update to make it much better (as it did to the Desire also i must admit).
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iphone is perfect except for restrictions on it by apple
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Then is it not perfect
So go tell Samsung directly if you want them to hear.. There are enough threads with people whinging, so if anything, this is a dupe.
Also, losing customers in drones? Really?? HAHAHAHAHA. Have you got any evidence for that claim? The only customers being lost seem to be at XDA, and some of them are overanalysing, such as the people who were whinging about GPS, have been saying "the iphone wouldn't have that problem", and yet, people have produced tracks which suggests it does. And "lag" is apparently no worse than previous generation devices, it certainly doesn't make the device "unusable" as many exaggerators have claimed
There are problems with every device... The question, is how much the user tries to train themselves to be annoyed by a problem.. On OSX for instance, I'd notice when a program crashed, users don't care.. But on Windows, people almost throw their keyboard
dial to get latest news on froyo from samsung:
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In my personal case I've got this phone from work -- there is no chance in hell I would have handed out my hard earned cash for this POS. If, in a moment of insanity, I would have ever done so, not later than the day after I would be prompt back at my local Samsung rep and told them to stick that phone somewhere special and ask for a full refund then and there.
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Lucky you... I was one of those who did hand out hard earned for this POS... and its going to cost me even more to rectify my problem and do what I should have done in the first place: chose the iphone.
If it wasn't for this forum, I probably would have dropped it down the toilet.
Touchwiz is easily replaced with better options from the Market. There's not a single Android device sold today that have a better Launcher than a couple of the ones on the Market IMO, and it's easy to replace the stock one. + for Android.
In my mind there is only 1 huge problem with this phone, and that is the RFS filesystem that causes lag.
GPS is an issue as well, but nothing major. It works well enough for most people.
Other than these 2 issues, this phone is awesome.
This is the best phone I have ever bought. If it was stolen, I would but another one for sure. I an not sure why you are going nuts about it, but I am sure that types like you whiners would go crazy about a "prefect" iphone (lol) as well!
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My mates with Iphones do not have the same gps problems as I do. If I geocache with them my gps jumps wildly and cannot in many cases get me close enough to find something. The iphones haven't had any problems, though appear to have worse accuracy "in general". I think when the gps is fixed it will be heaps more accurate, but it's fluctuation now makes it virtually useless.
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Not really http://discussions.info.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1139
I've spent the last 4 months looking for a good phone after having an iphone 3G which once jailbroken was superb but I got bored of it in the end and the battery life was terrible.
I had the Dell Streak which I got rid of because I didnt like Dells silence over the 2.1 update or the US launch and in all honesty its a bit big.
I sold the streak and got a cheap sony x10 mini pro which was a really nice little phone even though it was on 1.6 with no definate date for upgrade and when someone on here wanted to trade his HTC Desire for it I jumped at the chance.
The Desire was really good solid build stock 2.2 was very good but sense annoyed me and slowed the phone down. Multi touch was terrible. the desire cant even do 2 point touch properly let alone five like the SGS. This made playing games impossible and the HTC bluetooth stack is borked so it doesnt support wiiremotes unless you flash opendesire.
So I sold that and got an SGS for £9 more off ebay and I like it
I've had my SGS for 2 days now. It was on 2.1 JF3 when I got it so I rooted it and put on the lag fix. It was still under performing so I put the newest build of 2.2 on the JPK thing. installed launcher pro which is the closest to stock 2.2 I've found.
Although its still an early version it flies. I think people have to keep the faith a bit. Companies are terrible at shipping devices to market too early just to beat the competition. I think thats happened alot this year.
There isnt a single perfect Android device out there right now and if your after perfection you really shouldnt consider android. Its great for geeks like me who like to tinker. If thats not you then go get a nokia or an iphone.
I even registered for this
I own a SGS my wife owns an iPhone4. I feel my phone is significantly better, despite my wife's phone costing significantly more.
The iphone is not perfect...things I dont like
1. They do not yet have a free satnav app.
2. You cannot email more than one photo at the same time.
3. Does not have swype
4. Smaller screen
5. No back button (top left corner of screen always has to have a back button)
6. You have to pay extra for everything (ring tones etc.)
7. SGS is much more resistant to drop based damage
8. No customisable home screen for regularly used functions which occasionally are multi-level deep in an iPhone
9. No removable storage
10. No chance of a flash browser...
Do not get me wrong the iPhone 4 is an exceptionally good phone, but the SGS IMO is better and cheaper!
Additionally I have noticed my battery lasts a day longer than my wife's (completely unscientific testing though).
For balance I will point out the things on my wife's phone that are superior to SGS
1. Camera has a flash (the flash is not great, but it is better than nothing).
2. The text rendering is superior
3. The safari touch screen movement is superior (difficult to explain why you need to use both to appreciate what I mean)
My wife's iPhone 4 regularly (approx twice weekly) asks her to re-enter the wifi security code for our house, that bug to me is far more annoying than anything I have experienced on my phone so far.
Great!
Tesmond said:
I own a SGS my wife owns an iPhone4. I feel my phone is significantly better, despite my wife's phone costing significantly more.
The iphone is not perfect...things I dont like
1. They do not yet have a free satnav app.
2. You cannot email more than one photo at the same time.
3. Does not have swype
4. Smaller screen
5. No back button (top left corner of screen always has to have a back button)
6. You have to pay extra for everything (ring tones etc.)
7. SGS is much more resistant to drop based damage
8. No customisable home screen for regularly used functions which occasionally are multi-level deep in an iPhone
9. No removable storage
10. No chance of a flash browser...
Do not get me wrong the iPhone 4 is an exceptionally good phone, but the SGS IMO is better and cheaper!
Additionally I have noticed my battery lasts a day longer than my wife's (completely unscientific testing though).
For balance I will point out the things on my wife's phone that are superior to SGS
1. Camera has a flash (the flash is not great, but it is better than nothing).
2. The text rendering is superior
3. The safari touch screen movement is superior (difficult to explain why you need to use both to appreciate what I mean)
My wife's iPhone 4 regularly (approx twice weekly) asks her to re-enter the wifi security code for our house, that bug to me is far more annoying than anything I have experienced on my phone so far.
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Welcome to the community.
Excelent post.
Congratulations and thank you for the analysis.
nCoder said:
Welcome to the community.
Excelent post.
Congratulations and thank you for the analysis.
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music on iphone sounds way better than sgs.
Tesmond said:
1. They do not yet have a free satnav app.
2. You cannot email more than one photo at the same time.
3. Does not have swype
4. Smaller screen
5. No back button (top left corner of screen always has to have a back button)
6. You have to pay extra for everything (ring tones etc.)
7. SGS is much more resistant to drop based damage
8. No customisable home screen for regularly used functions which occasionally are multi-level deep in an iPhone
9. No removable storage
10. No chance of a flash browser...
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1. True, but there are cheap ones. Google navigation works terribly for me, so the SGS may as well not have one TBH. I've got no doubt its the phone not the program thats causing this. Clearly other people dont have this problem though.
2. No big deal for me or most people for that matter, but fair point.
3. True - I'll miss swype when I go back to the iphone. That said swype isnt perfect either - its often putting the wrong word in for me and i'm having to go back correcting the errors.
4. True... but its sharper and not pentile. I think the screens are a draw for me.
5. True, but it doesn't really need one IMO.
6. True - but not bothered.
7. I can imagine.
8. Yes, but then its rare you need to. Main thing I'd like to see is a button for airplane mode and to keep the screen on, but I can live with it.
9. True but it does have a lot of storage built in. Not a big deal for me.
10. To be honest the importance of this is overstated - when I've witnessed flash running on a phone it often slows to a crawl anyway.
Tesmond said:
Do not get me wrong the iPhone 4 is an exceptionally good phone, but the SGS IMO is better and cheaper!
Additionally I have noticed my battery lasts a day longer than my wife's (completely unscientific testing though).
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Wouldnt say the SGS is better. It lags, is full of bugs and the GPS doesn't work at all for many people. The build quality is questionable (though I dont mind).
However, you really have to be joking about the battery? My mate has an iphone 4, and the battery life is not just slightly better on his, it is STAGGERINGLY better. We are both heavy users, and his is easily double what mine can do on the battery. If your partners iphone 4 battery does not last longer than your SGS, I'd say hers is faulty, TBH.
Tesmond said:
For balance I will point out the things on my wife's phone that are superior to SGS
1. Camera has a flash (the flash is not great, but it is better than nothing).
2. The text rendering is superior
3. The safari touch screen movement is superior (difficult to explain why you need to use both to appreciate what I mean)
My wife's iPhone 4 regularly (approx twice weekly) asks her to re-enter the wifi security code for our house, that bug to me is far more annoying than anything I have experienced on my phone so far.
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1. Not only does it have a flash, it is also FAR superior in terms of picture quality. Again, first hand experience. The SGS camera is acceptable, nothing more. The iphone camera has better sensors etc, and is actually almost as good as a compact dedicated camera from a few years ago.
2. Agreed
3. Again, agreed - even the original iphone moves around the screen better than the SGS (or any Android phone).
Now a few you forgot...
4. It runs faster - a LOT faster. Even if you lag fix an SGS, it STILL doesn't run as fast. Then again even a 1 year old Nexus One outperforms the SGS (but again, not the iphone 4).
5. Less buggy - this surely cannot be denied.
6. MUCH better apps
7. GPS actually works
8. Looks nicer
9. Far, FAR better battery life - I don't know how anyone can really say otherwise.
10. Updating it doesn't result in you having to spend an hour reinstalling apps without the aid of a (paid) backup app.
11. Resale value, come the day, will be FAR superior. In the UK, we have phone recycling sites (which no doubt, so will you)... and already the maximum price you can get for the SGS is around £115. That is APPALLING. You can STILL get £190 for a 2 year old iphone 3G. Big deal, you may think, but for me, this more than offsets the extra cost of the phone. In actual fact, a 16Gb SGS was £550 when it came out in the UK, £50 MORE than the iphone. Yet, in a years time, when you want to sell it, you'll still get £350 for the iphone, but you'll probably be lucky to get much more than £100 for the SGS, so TCO the iphone is actually significantly cheaper.
As for your wifi bug, again, I'd say that was a faulty phone - I certainly never had that problem with my 3G.
Also, if your iphone gets faulty, then Apple will replace it there and then. I wouldn't like to imagine what would happen if I sent it to Samsung given their dire customer service in this country.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no iphone fanboy, if I was, there would only have been one choice for me, but you're pushing it saying the SGS is better and cheaper, because frankly, it's only better on paper. In reality, its very different.

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