On my Cingular 8125 I don't have the option to select which tower to connect to. I'd like to be able to select between Cingular Orange and Cingular Blue as Blue has a much better signal at my office. I was able to do this on my Motorolla v551 and it worked great.
But when I go to Settings --> Phone --> Network, there's only a "Find Network" button and I don't have the option to choose which network it actually connects to.
I know the Network tab has network selection features (they've displayed for me a couple times when I was on business travel roaming), they just seem to be hidden when I'm in my home calling area.
Any tips on a reg DWORD I can flip or something to enable network selection?
Unless you have a pre-2002 simcard you won't be able to select any network that isn't already added in the network list.
My friend has a 2125 with pretty much the exact same plan... signed up same time as me, got SIM card same time as me... why would he be able to select networks and not me?
I still think there's gotta be a software solution. :-/
I upgraded my 8125's ROM to the 2.17 version and now I have network select. Also I have a 3G sim card.
I'm on 2.17 as well, and I do NOT have these options! This is a real problem as I have no signal at home or work! I need to be able to select the old ATT tower in this area (which has perfect signal!!)
Someone block the SIM from doing this to us all please!
Ok, my network name shows up wrong on my wizard and I was wondering if there is any way of changing it?
I am subscribed with our local operator Wave Telecoms. They are a subsiduary company of Jersey Telecoms and actually use the same frequency etc in both of their networks (means I can roam between networks at no extra costs )
For some reason, my wizard shows my operator as Jersey Tel UK, rather than Wave.. Is there any way I can change this? It always used to say wave when i used the SIM in my old Sony Ericsson....
Also - is there any way that you can show cell broadcast messages on the wizard. I can't seem to find the setting anywhere - or even where it would show on the phone.....
For cell broadcast open your dialer with the green button, click menu, than options, then the tab named more. There is an option to enable cell broadcast channels.
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Ok, my network name shows up wrong on my wizard and I was wondering if there is any way of changing it?
I am subscribed with our local operator Wave Telecoms. They are a subsiduary company of Jersey Telecoms and actually use the same frequency etc in both of their networks (means I can roam between networks at no extra costs )
For some reason, my wizard shows my operator as Jersey Tel UK, rather than Wave.. Is there any way I can change this? It always used to say wave when i used the SIM in my old Sony Ericsson....
Also - is there any way that you can show cell broadcast messages on the wizard. I can't seem to find the setting anywhere - or even where it would show on the phone.....
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i to m from guernsey and you are correct. about a month ago it show wave now is JT GSM.so you are not alone.wave cell broadcast on channel 50 and the only thing tha it broadcast is network name every 5 minutes as a message .it becomes very anoying.
I am looking for a way to update the "Phone Settings Network" dialog on my new Advantage 7501 to include the features I have on my HP ipAQ 6945. On my iPAQ have options to do a Manual Network Selection where it will find all the available networks in range, not just the AT&T ones. Why is this important to me? Well I live in an area where the nearest Cingular/AT&T tower is over 15 miles away, however I am in what they call a "Partner" coverage area where I can connect to a Cellular One tower that is about 4 miles away. This way I can get 4 bars signal inside my home where if I can try to connect to the AT&T net using typical cell phones, I get 2 bars to none. Since both these devices are made by HTC there must be a way I can move the needed code off my iPAQ to the Advantage. The iPAQ with this manual net selection is the only phone I can use at home. I was hoping the Advantage would include a similar capability.
Can anyone point me the right direction?
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I am looking for a way to update the "Phone Settings Network" dialog on my new Advantage 7501 to include the features I have on my HP ipAQ 6945. On my iPAQ have options to do a Manual Network Selection where it will find all the available networks in range, not just the AT&T ones. Why is this important to me? Well I live in an area where the nearest Cingular/AT&T tower is over 15 miles away, however I am in what they call a "Partner" coverage area where I can connect to a Cellular One tower that is about 4 miles away. This way I can get 4 bars signal inside my home where if I can try to connect to the AT&T net using typical cell phones, I get 2 bars to none. Since both these devices are made by HTC there must be a way I can move the needed code off my iPAQ to the Advantage. The iPAQ with this manual net selection is the only phone I can use at home. I was hoping the Advantage would include a similar capability.
Can anyone point me the right direction?
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Go to Start/setting/personal/phone, and go to the network tab. There you can manually select your preferred service provider.
Is this what you are looking for?
No, the display shows Current Network: AT&T and only a "Find Network" box. There is no option to look for anything else but AT&T. Maybe this is limitation arising from the AT&T SIM card I am using.
My iPAQ screen gives me a Network Selection box with "Automatic" and "Manual" options. If I select "Manual" and "Find Network" I get a list of all available cell towers within range, and then can pick one. Where I am I see "Cingular" and "Cell One DCS". I pick the Cellular One tower as it is a partner site and there are no roaming charges even thought the little roaming symbol ( a pyramid) shows up at the top.
I'll try switching SIM cards and see if that makes a difference. Well changing SIM cards made no difference except that it lists "Cingular" instead of "AT&T"
The Network Selection box with auto and manual options is there on my 7501 too. I didn't think that would be affected by your sim card.
Hey, just a thought -- did you switch to true VGA, and is the box just not showing up because of that?
I tried a Hard Reset and still do not get a network selection option. It may be due one of the CAB files that is run during the device setup that changes the US version. I'll try calling HTC Support.
Called HTC and was told that the AT&T SIM locks out the option to do a Network Selection. He tried a T-Mobile SIM in his Advantage and it came up with the Network Selection option. He "hinited" that I would have to do a CID unlock perhaps to get around AT&T's SIM restrictions, but couldn't tell me to do it would as it void the warranty.
I tried the HTC Network Wizard (Google for it) and it only allows you to set up your phone for a couple of possible providers.
We both agreed that I probably have files on my iPAQ 6945 that if I could identify them and transfer them to my Advantage I might get around this restriction.
He said he would contact AT&T and see if they have any way to get around this. What happens if you travel outside the US and try to use the phone on another network (huge roaming charges!!!) in an emergency?
I don't quite have the courage to try the CID unlocker on my brand new Advantage yet. Has anyone done this?
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Called HTC and was told that the AT&T SIM locks out the option to do a Network Selection. He tried a T-Mobile SIM in his Advantage and it came up with the Network Selection option. warranty.
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ATT sims do LOCK that option. All other att phones like 8525, 8125, blackjack, etc are missing that option too.
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He "hinited" that I would have to do a CID unlock perhaps to get around AT&T's SIM restrictions, but couldn't tell me to do it would as it void the warrabty
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I was under the impression that CiD unlock would fix that too but that's not true.
It's just that Some (Unofficial) Roms ignore that but most of official roms like yours dont.
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I tried the HTC Network Wizard (Google for it) and it only allows you to set up your phone for a couple of possible providers.
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Network wizard will not affect that option.
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We both agreed that I probably have files on my iPAQ 6945 that if I could identify them and transfer them to my Advantage I might get around this restriction.
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dont know what u mean.
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He said he would contact AT&T and see if they have any way to get around this. What happens if you travel outside the US and try to use the phone on another network (huge roaming charges!!!) in an emergency?
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Att doesn't have this restriction on all the networks. This restriction is based on the country codes. Att has restriction on US, canada, and mexico.
So if you are not in those countries you will have that option available to you.
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I don't quite have the courage to try the CID unlocker on my brand new Advantage yet. Has anyone done this?
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Dont because it wont help.
To be quite honest with you I dont know how you could do it on your previous phone because Att blocks that option on the network side. Even if you did change your network succesfuly on the phone, it'd still be rejected by the network.
The only thing that I can think of is that your Ipaq couldn't find a good ATT signal and connected to a patner's tower instead.
And your Advantage either gets a better gsm signal or gets a decent umts signal and connects to cingular 3g.
Try forcing the phone to operate only on the gsm network from under the band tab see if that makes a difference.
and also what is your zip code?
You can enable "Find Network" by changing the following registry key.
HKLM\Security\Phone\ManualDisable=0
That will display the network selection option and you wont void your warranty or anything like that.
It just goes away after a soft reset.
Check this thread here for more info on that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284201&highlight=manual+network+selection
Thanks for your response. The registry edit did indeed turn on the Network Selection. Going to Manual selection it finds "Cell One DCS" just like my iPAQ does, but when I select it I get the message "Cannot register on selected network. Choose another network, or disconnect your data connection and try again."
I have been connecting for over a year with my iPAQ to "Cell One DCS" with NO roaming charges. I guess AT&T doesn't want me to use the partner network. My ZIP is 76692 and I am located near the bridge over Lake Whitney.
There is obvious a difference in the software on the iPAQ and Advantage that is causing this to happen. I just checked the latest AT&T coverage maps and see they don't show a Partner coverage anymore.
I have installed an outside yagi antenna and signal repeater at my home so I do get a signal sometimes, but not a reliable signal.
We travel a lot so I still find AT&T coverage to be good in most places, and my iPAQ still works here now.
That's strange.
I got an ipaq 6915 from cingular and with cingular sims it pretty much does the same thing and disables network selection.
Do you have a custom rom on your 6945?
When you boot it up do you get the cingular logo?
Plus at your zip code it seems like you are far away from any cingular towers.
The only thing that I can think of is that your ipaq just doesn't find a good cingular signal, and connects to a different network.
When you do a network search on your ipaq does it actually detect Cingular as an available network? When you connect to cingular from your ipaq how many bars do you get?
I've always thought there nothing special about my 6945, but I guess there is! When I do a Network Selection on it I see both the Cingular tower AND the Cellular One tower signals. I have tried this in other locations and see several different networks (e.g., T-Mobile, and five digit numbers).
I've tried both my old Cingular SIM and a new AT&T SIM, and they both work the same in my iPaq 6945. Interesting!!! But neither will allow me to select the Cellular One tower on my new Advantage.
You are probably right about country codes for on recent cruise with stops in Grand Cayman and Cozumel the Advantage would show networks other than Cingular.
I am sorry I didn't reply earlier, but I was visiting family in Virginia this weekend. It was neat to see an "H" connection appear while sitting in DFW. Only get "E" connections out in the sticks where I live.
Dave
Oh, I should have mentioned that the 6945 is an unlocked phone from HP and is not customized for Cingular. As far as signal strength I have a cell repeater installed in my home so I get anywhere from no bars to 4 bars on that Cingular tower that is at least 15 miles away. My Cellular One is consistently 4 bars. I live in a steel framed home with a metal roof. Before I got the repeater I was using a booster amp and plugging an external antenna into my iPAQ and RAZR V3 to get a usable signal. This kept me tethered in my computer room (ugh!). When I got the 6945 and found I could manually select the Cellular One tower I then had a phone I could use throughout my home.
Several years ago I started with a simple Nokia phone before Cingular had a tower in the area, and always connected "Cingular Extend" which I now know was the near by Cellular One tower. As soon as Cingular put up their tower I have been unable to connect with the Nokia, Razr V3, and new Motorola V577.
Some of my neighbors have terminated their Cingular service because of this lack of connected to the so call "Partner" coverage.
Just went to a US/Mexico border town and my Hermes kept locking on TecTel rather than Cingular/ATT. In network choices it only shows one choice, whether TecTel or Cingular, as I moved away from the border. In other phones I had choices of various services, or at least it showed them. Is there a register change to allow this?
In SETTINGS => PHONE - TAB NETWORK you can set that either your phone will switch between the networks automatically or manually.
Depending on your network provider you are or are not allowed to use networks other than your home network. (International / national roaming). You will have to contact your network provider to see what networks you can use ...
Is it possible that the Franco kernel can cause the phone to search for network infinitely? I mean when I am in menu > wireless & networks > mobile networks. It will just keep searching and won't stop to let me choose which to connect to which is annoying because EE has T-mobile and Orange; the latter is horrid and slow even with full 3G signal. For some reason the phone is stuck just connecting to EE Orange when normally if I go into aeroplane and out it will connect to EE T-mobile as it has the stronger signal. Or is it something that's wrong?
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Is it possible that the Franco kernel can cause the phone to search for network infinitely? I mean when I am in menu > wireless & networks > mobile networks. It will just keep searching and won't stop to let me choose which to connect to which is annoying because EE has T-mobile and Orange; the latter is horrid and slow even with full 3G signal. For some reason the phone is stuck just connecting to EE Orange when normally if I go into aeroplane and out it will connect to EE T-mobile as it has the stronger signal. Or is it something that's wrong?
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i've the same problem...
Ultraman1966 said:
Is it possible that the Franco kernel can cause the phone to search for network infinitely? I mean when I am in menu > wireless & networks > mobile networks. It will just keep searching and won't stop to let me choose which to connect to which is annoying because EE has T-mobile and Orange; the latter is horrid and slow even with full 3G signal. For some reason the phone is stuck just connecting to EE Orange when normally if I go into aeroplane and out it will connect to EE T-mobile as it has the stronger signal. Or is it something that's wrong?
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Try punching *#*#4636#*#* into the phone dialer and scroll down to the bottom. Just above the buttons at the botton on the screen should be a drop down menu displaying which network connection you are currently accessing. Press on that to open up the menu from here you can force your network preferences ( this is the area where you can also take advantage of the n4 dormant lte capabilities, but be aware this will increase battery usage) try locating the network you wish to be on and press it, give it a couple seconds is should disable the current one and a moment later as long as it is available should connect to your choice. Not sure if this helps in anyway but it is always fun to mess around with as many setting as you can never knowing which one will solve your problem.