Hi guys,
I'm having this problem, which has happend twice already and it's
really annoying.
I left my phone charging the battery overnight and when I came back the next
morning I could not activate the screen.
When pressing any of the buttons the backlight of the button line
turns on for a few seconds but the screen remains black.
The only solution is to do the "soft" reset BUT doing so results in the HARD RESET which means you are screwed without a backup.
Before charging, the battery was about 57% full, I can't think of any application that could be interferring with the charging process (but what do I know). The last time this happened was about 2 weeks ago.
I'm using the original 1.43.xx ROM.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
I've experienced the same with mine. now running it "software/addons free" and it seems to run fine. one of my customizations probably caused this...
how do you perform a "soft" reset and it turns into a hard reset?
lude219 said:
how do you perform a "soft" reset and it turns into a hard reset?
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I press the red button at the back or remove the battery.
Fatherboard said:
I've experienced the same with mine. now running it "software/addons free" and it seems to run fine. one of my customizations probably caused this...
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This phone lives from the customization, to abandon this option would
be a high price to pay.
Howevery, I only have few installed: 20 links at the home screen, 1% battery indicator.
The apps would be: flash light, power options, garmin mobile xt, sprite backup (luckily). Only the last two were installed when the problem occured for the first time. Also, these apps are not running in the background, so I can't imagin they somehow cause trouble after charging.
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I press the red button at the back or remove the battery.
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In this case you made a soft reset.
I experienced the issues after upgrading from 1.43 to 1.48. It turned out that I messed up some tweaks settingsinstalling and overinstalling some cabs which somehow (maybe to much beers) I tought that it will solve other issues.
Try tomake a hard reset and I would suggest to upgrade to 1.48 till a cooked one willbe available and stable.
Regards,
Seba
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This phone lives from the customization, to abandon this option would
be a high price to pay.
Howevery, I only have few installed: 20 links at the home screen, 1% battery indicator
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I'm not saying that you have to abandon all of these, but you do have to start doing some "elimination" process if your device has started to freeze/crash. install one program and test the device for a few days. if everything is ok - then install another program and retest.
I know this sounds like a job of a beta tester, but it seems that there's no other choice.
By far I can confirm that I have encountered the freeze after installing a customized taskbar and the 20 links .cab. maybe this is the cause, I don't know yet. People are spreading .cab files with no further insurance that these are 100% bugfree. we're still running a Windows platform, don't forget it.
Experiencing exactly the same problem here... But going into an elimation process by myself would take months, given the number of (very usefull) patch I have installed her. Let's begin elimination process... Tell me the apps you have installed, I'll tell you mine. Since we are experiencing the same problem, My guess is that only the patches we have in common can cause this problem.
I DON'T HAVE garmin mobile nor sprite backup, so they are not responsible.
PATCHES & APPS I HAVE
- 20 links at the home screen
- 1% battery indicator +++ (My guess, given the direct relation to the charing process)
- LED notifications
- power options 12 icons
- VolumeKeys-0.3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=598997)
- 3D Driver Patch 1.1
Many many more, but let's start by theses ones... since they all run in the background
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Has anyone gotten Battery Status beta or .04 running on the mogul? I am having EXTREME difficulty. It says in settings that it is on the today screen and yet its not. Any help would be super!!
I'm using the beta with no issues...
I've found that you need to go into your today settings and turn it off and then back on maybe?
Make sure that you are using the beta...I have found that it works well with our moguls and WM6 specifically.
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the ext beta? mine freezes and and i have to soft reset like 3 times and then just let it sit with no battery in. and thats another thing, why is the f***ing battery so huge? my wizard batt is like 1/2 the size. crazy htc.
thanks for the response.
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the ext beta? mine freezes and and i have to soft reset like 3 times and then just let it sit with no battery in. and thats another thing, why is the f***ing battery so huge? my wizard batt is like 1/2 the size. crazy htc.
thanks for the response.
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I know, I used to have a wizard too. the battery is huge on the mogul.
I am specifically using the 1.0.4.023 beta4 build 0219. I think that's the extbeta, but not sure offhand.
The reason your setup is freezing is probably because you turned on too many indicators. I haven't quite put my finger on which one causes it, but I suspect it's the wifi rows indicator. I currently only have the cpu utilization and the power drain indicators on, but it did used to freeze if I turned on all of them. Try those two and you should be just fine.
Also, when I used this on the wizard, the new versions of the beta caused a huge memory leak with wm6, but this version has been working really well for me the past month that I have had it on. Since removing the sddaemon and htc_guardian startup links as suggested in one of the other threads on here, I don't notice the memory leak I was having anymore.
We just need a new rom
i turned everything off but cpu and power drain still froze the crap out of itself. so let it sit for ten minutes and try again. uninstalled battery status. and voila soft reset no freeze. but i will try it again with sddaemon and htc_guardian removed.
Seriously unimpressed so far.
This thing has hung 5 or 6 times at least today (day 3....) and about the same yesterday
If this keeps up, I'm binning it and reverting to HD
Unbelievable!
What did you do ? Any pattern ?
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Seriously unimpressed so far.
This thing has hung 5 or 6 times at least today (day 3....) and about the same yesterday
If this keeps up, I'm binning it and reverting to HD
Unbelievable!
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Not much info there, my pictures hang up... on the wall everyday.
What are you doing? What have you been doing? Is it due to memory being full (as apps aren't closing)
Maybe I'm not hip to the slang but what do you mean it "hangs" or "hung"?
You must have a duff unit!
Well mine has been completely spot on!
Maybe its something you have installed causing issues? Try uninstalling things one by one to see if that rectifies any problems you may have.
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Maybe I'm not hip to the slang but what do you mean it "hangs" or "hung"?
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"Hangs" means "crashes" or, more precisely "becomes completely and permanently unresponsive to anything less than a soft reset".
Possibly - and yeah, I know, that's next port of call TBH - it's just really pissing me off at the moment - NONE of my other HTC devices have ever behaved like this.
Just for the record, I've figured out exactly WHAT makes it hang - I open file explorer and navigate to the 'Windows' folder - bang....I get the rotating four colours and it's back off/battery out AGAIN
Thus far I've only installed Kinomaplay (which ISN'T behaving as it should IMO....although it performs it's media functions perfectly)
Coreplayer - which works ok
SPB Time - again, works 'ok' (both are really f..king fiddly to use/setup with this screen - which is ANOTHER thing I'm not impressed with at all - I've had an iPhone in the past - [capacative] screen response was perfect - this one?? have to jab at it several times sometimes to get the desired result and accuracy just isn't good for smaller targets)
One thing I have noticed is - I've only installed those 3 programs but almost all the device memory is used up!?? Unsure if that would cause an issue with it hanging and I've had loads more than this installed onto mt HD and was nowhere near the device memory limitations.
Hmmm....
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Possibly - and yeah, I know, that's next port of call TBH - it's just really pissing me off at the moment - NONE of my other HTC devices have ever behaved like this.
Just for the record, I've figured out exactly WHAT makes it hang - I open file explorer and navigate to the 'Windows' folder - bang....I get the rotating four colours and it's back off/battery out AGAIN
Thus far I've only installed Kinomaplay (which ISN'T behaving as it should IMO....although it performs it's media functions perfectly)
Coreplayer - which works ok
SPB Time - again, works 'ok' (both are really f..king fiddly to use/setup with this screen - which is ANOTHER thing I'm not impressed with at all - I've had an iPhone in the past - [capacative] screen response was perfect - this one?? have to jab at it several times sometimes to get the desired result and accuracy just isn't good for smaller targets)
One thing I have noticed is - I've only installed those 3 programs but almost all the device memory is used up!?? Unsure if that would cause an issue with it hanging and I've had loads more than this installed onto mt HD and was nowhere near the device memory limitations.
Hmmm....
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I really would consider that you may have a duff unit. There are loads of peoeple on here who advise the screen is too responsive! Plus the lack of memory sounds like the biggest issue.
When you navigate to the windows folder, do you actually let it load or do you just leave it? Reason I ask is that there are thousands of files in there and it does take a while to read them. It did on my HD anyway.
Seems like when reg edits have been done to get task manager working how we are all used to it, should be working better.
Oh, software is made for resistive screens so some presses wont register as the software is more than likely looking for a more presice tap rather than a finer splodged over the actual area its looking for a response in. Should be fine later down the line when more things are brought to capacitive screens.
Hope it all works out for ya
That is true - the menus are a little small for finger use - so it will be a case of waiting I guess.
I removed all the progs that I'd installed already (includng 'microsoft my phone' - forgot about that one)
Screen is very responsive most of the time - but then sometimes it just seems to space out- almost like you catch it off guard - not what I'd expect frankly
It does eventually load the windows folder in explorer - but it takes about 2 1/2 mins to do so - no other folder does that to it, nor any other action - and it wasn't doing that up until yesterday
Hard reset next [if i can figure out how...] - if that doesn't yield significant improvement then it's back to TCR for an exchange (provided some more units have turned up by now!!)
Cheers though
Definitely a problem there, my windows folder loads instantly.
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Definitely a problem there, my windows folder loads instantly.
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+1 ...... Mine loads in a split second
My phone doesnt hangs, but my /windows folder takes about 1/2 minutes in load.
No problems here either. One recommendation though for those with slow file list loading: try to enable and up the caches (which are stock) with Advanced Config. You will gain some more speed!
Hard reset and we're back to full speed again - I guess it was one of the programs that was screwing it up - thanks all for the 'benchmark'
I'm a bit suspicious that it was kinomaplay, as that was [occasionally]interfering with other operations by overlaying itself on top at times and was hard to get out of that loop as the 'X' [close] box wasn't always *really* there (only shown on screen but no actual function)
I might try it[kinomaplay] again - only this time try and figure out why it associates itself with image files that I'd rather the OE windows prog opened.
Thanks for the tip on Adv.Config Tnyynt - TBH I'd not tried to load that one yet, I'll try that in a sec though (it was a godsend on the HD)
There was definitely something funny going on with the memory space on the device, as after the hard reset I'm back up to '116MB free of 181MB' - whereas, even once I'd uninstalled all that had been added - and deleted additional ringtone wavs - I only managed to get a max. of 53MB available showing.
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Hard reset and we're back to full speed again - I guess it was one of the programs that was screwing it up - thanks all for the 'benchmark'
I'm a bit suspicious that it was kinomaplay, as that was [occasionally]interfering with other operations by overlaying itself on top at times and was hard to get out of that loop as the 'X' [close] box wasn't always *really* there (only shown on screen but no actual function)
I might try it[kinomaplay] again - only this time try and figure out why it associates itself with image files that I'd rather the OE windows prog opened.
Thanks for the tip on Adv.Config Tnyynt - TBH I'd not tried to load that one yet, I'll try that in a sec though (it was a godsend on the HD)
There was definitely something funny going on with the memory space on the device, as after the hard reset I'm back up to '116MB free of 181MB' - whereas, even once I'd uninstalled all that had been added - and deleted additional ringtone wavs - I only managed to get a max. of 53MB available showing.
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Sounds like Kinomaplay is searching and associating with files in the background. I think it may be set to do that by default but you can tell it not to in the settings - only trouble is you may have to wait for it to do it's thing as not sure if you can interrupt it. I got so fed up with the programme on the HD I trashed it - lovely interface though
Strange thing with Windows folder loading, with the "normal" Explorer it takes my device a very long time too (first few times did a soft reset because i thought it was hung also), but with Total Commander explorer the Windows folder is there instantly, sounds like Explorer runs into something, just have to figure out what though.
Crazy . . . . . . . . . . .
Mine takes just a split second to load windows folder!
But it crashes 2 - 3 times a day! Without doing nothing! When i try to unlock it, screen wont go on! Battery off, here we go again! And i got the no sound problem.. After 3-5 calls, i car hear what others are saying but they cant hear a word from me!! This is happening all time.. (tested all this even with stock rom and no apps installed or any tweak etc..)
I read here in the forums that other people have similar problems..And in italy the distribution stopped because of defected rom??
Some say it heppened in france too.. (allthough i live in greece, i got mine sent from france, expansys headquarters..)
So maybe its roms problem? Or just me having a possible defected device..?
Any of you with freezing problems etc..??
Some hangs and freezes in here too, latest was this morning when I had my phone plugged in the charged over night. I tried waking up the phone to check time so I press the power button: Button lights go on but no image on screen, had to take out battery and restart the phone.
Also I have had a few random hangs that required a soft reset too. I have installed the Electopia demo and the OpenGL speed tester. Also installed .net compact framework 3.5 because an app from marketplace said to require it.
I hope HTC takes care of this issues in an upcoming rom update! Otherwise the phone seems fine, although maybe a bit slower that I've seen in the pre-production reviews and videos which is odd...
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Some hangs and freezes in here too, latest was this morning when I had my phone plugged in the charged over night. I tried waking up the phone to check time so I press the power button: Button lights go on but no image on screen, had to take out battery and restart the phone.
Also I have had a few random hangs that required a soft reset too. I have installed the Electopia demo and the OpenGL speed tester. Also installed .net compact framework 3.5 because an app from marketplace said to require it.
I hope HTC takes care of this issues in an upcoming rom update! Otherwise the phone seems fine, although maybe a bit slower that I've seen in the pre-production reviews and videos which is odd...
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I noticed that the hangs have something to do with the charging of the phone,no matter if its via usb or power pluged. Thanks for confirming though.. This is MAJOR issue for me..You think that your phone is ok in your pockets but it is shut down!!
About the sound problem i mentioned before?
Knock on wood my HD2 is rocksolid for now! Everything is fast and stable!
Hi guys I need your help for this problem.
The camera won't let me take photos using the flash leds, I tap the icon but nothing happens...it won't change.
The thing is that it worked fine and smooth until yesterday (as far as I remember), I only installed some "innocent" cabs and the hotfixes. Never changed the ROM but now, after the hotfixes, it shows me 2 different versions: when the phone starts it says 1.48.71294 but when I go in phone informations it says ROM 1.48.408.1 (71294) ITA (btw, I'm italian...). Is it the same thing or what?
Now I'm downloading the ROM from the htc support :/. Will it help? donno yet.
The phone works perfect, just this camera thingy is driving me mad. 3 or 4 hard resets didn't help.
Try help me out (I'll go up on the roof and throw my Leo far far away...).
Thx in advance.
EDIT: SOLVED
hi,
great to know your problem got solved. can you please post the solution?
thanks
Funny how it got solved: another hard reset and here I go.
Sorry but this is it.
And make sure your batter is above the minimum charge amount for the camera app to use the flash. I've seen various amounts on here, ranging from 20% to 50%. I'd suggest that if your flash isn't working in the camera app, that's probably your problem. Just make sure you're charged to at least 50%.
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And make sure your batter is above the minimum charge amount for the camera app to use the flash. I've seen various amounts on here, ranging from 20% to 50%. I'd suggest that if your flash isn't working in the camera app, that's probably your problem. Just make sure you're charged to at least 50%.
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this is what I was mumble-mumble thinking last night but the battery was fully charged.
It seems like this smartphone is a work-in-progress but I'm positive and still consider that the price is worth.
I had the same problem: at the beginning I was scared something went wrong on my device. Later I found that under 20% the led flash is disabled by default to save battery.... try, it's the right percentage...
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Not having the flash available under 20% is a real pain - I don't like having my hand held because HTC won't let me decide if the pic I want to take is more important or having my phone last for some extra time.
Does anybody know the registry tweak or fix to enable the flash until the battery is spent?
There's none.
The drain of the flash is so high that if it stayed active under 20% the voltage drop on the battery would most likely cause your HD2 to just shut down instantly when it gives the bright flash when taking the photo.
battery under 30% the device wont allow you to use the flash.
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Sometimes I just hate my phone. I have an AT&T HTC Pure. I haven't done any modifications to the ROM or anything, just installing a few apps. Today my phone turned itself off due to low battery, so I put it on the charger for a couple hours. When I needed it again I turned it on and the HTC TouchFLO 3D loaded, showing my background and the big ugly clock along with my appointments. I noticed after a few minutes the time was off by... a few minutes. The screen had completely frozen. I couldn't use the slider at all. There goes my People, Music, Calendar, Weather, and Programs tabs I use all the time. I soft reset and it comes back, looking normal. I go to use the slider and it freezes in mid-motion... never to move again. I press the Start button and my Start menu comes up. I close the Start menu and I can still see it, although it doesn't respond and the X is gone from the upper right-hand corner. I tap the Notifications bar and my notifications show up. I click close and it's still up, just not responding to taps (frozen is my guess). I've reset it a multitude of ways now all with the same result... even taking out the battery.
I don't get this. It was working fine just a short while ago. I've reset the thing before and not had this problem. I haven't installed any apps since the last time I had to turn it off due to low battery, and it came up fine from that. What could be causing this?
The real thing is this has happened before. It's like if it ever has to reload the TouchFLO interface it just bombs 1 out of 20 times. Hell I was playing around with Android for the thing, which resets the phone when you want to go back into Windows, and not had this problem the whole time I was testing it. If my phone shuts down, roll the dice and I might get lucky enough for it to come back without this problem.
I resolved it before by doing a hard reset. Lost all my stuff. That sucks for what seems no good reason at all. It's not like I was modifying system files or screwing with registry settings. It isn't even a custom ROM.
Any insight on what could be causing this, and how to get it back to normal?
I'm regretting not buying an Android phone every day anyway, but thanks to 2yr service agreements and lack of sufficient disposable income to dump AT&T I'm stuck with this thing for a while.
Thanks in advance for any help and understanding!
Your issue is that you are on the stock ROM.
That's why XDA exists, because stock ROMs are full of bloatware, eating up memory, and lacking any performance tweaks.
Cooked ROMs are not a cause of issues but a solution.
I hated my phone out of the box, but now it rocks...
With that, if you are going to stay stock, I suggest you get a backup program and hard reset.
At this point I'm very interested in custom ROMs, yet I know little about them. Looks like its time to get on it and read up what I can.
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At this point I'm very interested in custom ROMs, yet I know little about them. Looks like its time to get on it and read up what I can.
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Start with the Hard SPL thread. A link is located in the 2nd sticky.
This is the precursor to flashing a custom ROM.
Once successful, you can cruise the ROM forum for the ROM of your liking.
It's things like this that make me so glad I found this site
You can try installing "CleanRAM" and running it after every initial boot to clear excess memory. You can also configure CleanRAM to schedule your memory cleaning. I recommend you to use "Level 2" cleaning though.
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You can try installing "CleanRAM" and running it after every initial boot to clear excess memory. You can also configure CleanRAM to schedule your memory cleaning. I recommend you to use "Level 2" cleaning though.
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Unfortunately CleanRAM does absolutely nothing. When TouchFLO 3D re-loads it lasts almost literally 2 seconds before freezing at whatever I'm doing. I've even used the customized process cleaner to stop as many processes as I could (or just manila.exe) and it still will freeze when the interface comes up.
I've been able to get it to the standard Windows Default look and it works now, so that will enable me to back up what I'm going to. If I'm going to have to do a hard reset anyway, might as well put something better on there.
Maybe this might help
i experianced the same problem and the cause was i sync my entire e-mail acc. on the pure and it ran ok untill i restarted it and it boom hanged.
So i cleaned up the entire messaging folder under \Windows\
At restarted it and it was fine
So i suggest dont sync up entire e-mail in any form i.e headers only etc.
If this helps do P.M me
I installed a custom rom from dutty, and now it completely dies while in standby, have to remove the battery to boot it up again. Looks like I traded one critical problem for another.
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I installed a custom rom from dutty, and now it completely dies while in standby, have to remove the battery to boot it up again. Looks like I traded one critical problem for another.
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Did you hard reset after flashing?
Also, which version of Dutty's did you install?
Hey guys,
at the moment I have a massive problem with my HTC HD2. Several month ago I flashed it with 6.5.3 and installed some little things, mostly for the design. Everything worked fine for 3 month, but now since this week, my HD2 is loosing battery extremly fast. If I charge it full, it is completly off after 20 hours WITHOUT using it. So I know the HD2 needs lots of battery, but if you don't use it very often, I could use it at least for several days and now, thats not possible anymore. I don't know why, I haven't changed anything. Also I think it got slower, so I checked for running applications with the task manager, but there is nothing????
So I'm kind of helpless right now, also I'm scared that I lost my gurantee with the update on 6.5.3.....
Do you guys have any ideas?
I'd try the easiest first and work your way down to the more complex things:
1) Re-calibrate the battery (sounds like you might have done this by completey running it down and then fully charging it.)
2) Remove the microsd card and see if you still get extreme battery drain to see if the problem is being caused by that.
3) Check that the wifi is idling when in standby and not staying connected.
4) Hard reset the phone.
Let me know if any of these shows a result.
I will do that, btw. I forgot one more problem. I have it often that I can't unlook the phone. so when its looked, the screen is black, normaly one push of any button is getting me back to the keylook screen where I can slide the button, but since I have the battery problem, I also have the problem that the screen stays black and only the hard buttons at the bottom are lighted, but the screen stays black. When I wait for some more time, than I can use it again, but for like 20 seconds its not usable.......it seems that something is using all the processor power.....DAMN this problem really freaks me out.
I know you said you checked for running apps with task manager, but if you meant the one that comes on the phone then I'd strongly recommend getting dotfred task manager (google finds it no problem). It's a much better task manager and gives you control over processes, rather than just listing them.
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Since it's so easy to google for it, I did it for you I'd only got as far as "dotfr" and google suggested it!
http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm
Ok I have installed it, if I check the cpu usage the process filesys.exe is using around 95%??? If I kill the process the phone freezes....also how can I identify process which are not working probably?
Ok, its definitiv the filesys.exe process which is killing my phone......everytime the phone is extremly slow, the filesys.exe process is using 95-100% of the cpu. I don't know why and when this process is running, sometimes it does, sometimes not.....how can I stop this process from killing my phone?
I already have removed the microsd card and the wifi is also not odeling.