I have a quick, simple question that I have tried searching for:
I lost root trying to upgrade to the newest Cyanogen (I think I rebooted when I wasn't supposed to). I am unable to get into fastboot as my computer will not recognize the drivers. I have also lost my recovery image. I have Haykuro's SPL (.005) and wanted to reroot using the DREAIMG RC29 process. My question is: is this possible with the new SPL? Do I have to go back to the HardSPL or can I just downgrade to RC29? I know that I can not change the radio version at this point... I just need to regain root without ADB/Fastboot!
If someone can point me in the right direction or help me out, I would greatly appreciate it.
metasage said:
I have a quick, simple question that I have tried searching for:
I lost root trying to upgrade to the newest Cyanogen (I think I rebooted when I wasn't supposed to). I am unable to get into fastboot as my computer will not recognize the drivers. I have also lost my recovery image. I have Haykuro's SPL (.005) and wanted to reroot using the DREAIMG RC29 process. My question is: is this possible with the new SPL? Do I have to go back to the HardSPL or can I just downgrade to RC29? I know that I can not change the radio version at this point... I just need to regain root without ADB/Fastboot!
If someone can point me in the right direction or help me out, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Don't flash the RC29.. it contains an old radio and you'll brick. I think the best thing you can do is revert to the original hardspl, then flash RC29 and root again from scratch.
goldenarmZ said:
Don't flash the RC29.. it contains an old radio and you'll brick. I think the best thing you can do is revert to the original hardspl, then flash RC29 and root again from scratch.
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I thought you weren't able to downgrade from Haykuro's SPL. Is this true?
G1gurl said:
I thought you weren't able to downgrade from Haykuro's SPL. Is this true?
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After researching this issue, I am seeing that some people say that you cannot downgrade the SPL...while others say you can.
So, I'm at the point where I just want to unroot and reroot from scratch. Can I safely downgrade my SPL without bricking?
G1gurl said:
I thought you weren't able to downgrade from Haykuro's SPL. Is this true?
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You can downgrade the spl but not the radio. The problem exists in the communication between radio image and spl.. Haykuro's SPL is only compatible with that one special radio version, anything else will brick it.. but all the other spl's will work with any radio version.
So yes, in this situation you can (and must) downgrade the spl before you try to go back to RC29.
goldenarmZ said:
You can downgrade the spl but not the radio. The problem exists in the communication between radio image and spl.. Haykuro's SPL is only compatible with that one special radio version, anything else will brick it.. but all the other spl's will work with any radio version.
So yes, in this situation you can (and must) downgrade the spl before you try to go back to RC29.
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Ok, I'm on ADP1 at this point and have the regular Android system recovery. When I try to flash update.zip to downgrade the SPL it says Installation aborted. Is there another way to do this? Thanks for your help...
Balls. I didn't think of that.. :/
If you can't flash from there you really need fastboot.. Come to think of it I'm not even sure how to flash an spl from fastboot...
Err.. I'm mildly stumped. Anyone..? lol
goldenarmZ said:
Balls. I didn't think of that.. :/
If you can't flash from there you really need fastboot.. Come to think of it I'm not even sure how to flash an spl from fastboot...
Err.. I'm mildly stumped. Anyone..? lol
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fastboot flash hboot (path to image)
metasage said:
I have a quick, simple question that I have tried searching for:
I lost root trying to upgrade to the newest Cyanogen (I think I rebooted when I wasn't supposed to). I am unable to get into fastboot as my computer will not recognize the drivers. I have also lost my recovery image. I have Haykuro's SPL (.005) and wanted to reroot using the DREAIMG RC29 process. My question is: is this possible with the new SPL? Do I have to go back to the HardSPL or can I just downgrade to RC29? I know that I can not change the radio version at this point... I just need to regain root without ADB/Fastboot!
If someone can point me in the right direction or help me out, I would greatly appreciate it.
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What problem are you having getting fastboot to work, there is a guide on setting up fastboot stickied in theese forums that would be a good reference point to getting it to work. Flashing the spl can be dangerous and can cause bricking, I would recommend trying to get fastboot up and running then you'd only have to reflash your recovery to either cyan's or Amon Ra's with fastboot, then you would be able to use your update.zip files again.
jackslim said:
fastboot flash hboot (path to image)
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ok cool, thanks.
so.. metasage, your only option is to get fastboot working.. I can't think of any other way round this.
Thanks for your help guys. I'm attempting all of this on my work PC where I can do just about anything except install drivers. Need admin privileges for that
I'll try fastboot when I get home. Thanks again for your help.
This page may be of use to you:
"Stuck on ADP1/ION after trying to upgrade"...
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/RE-recovery-img
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you can flash the rc29 image just fine.....it overwrites the radio AND the spl
search forums...
though getting fastboot to work is best option...wouldnt recommend fastbooting spl or radio though
i agree with bman007. i have had to have 2 g1's replaced and the only way they will accept the phone for replacement is if it is on tmobile stock ROMs. All i do is flash the rc29 image. (also change customer boot screen back to default). no issues found with just flashing. Hope this helps.
I have successfully rooted my MyTouch 3g using the gold card method. Because my phone came preloaded with Android 1.6 i was not able to downgrade to cupcake using the easier method. But I have had some difficulty since, especially flashing any other recovery image other than the one that I was directed to use for the rooting process or loading a cyanogen rom. As i tinkered around with this stuff last night I may have had an epiphany but I want to make sure I am on the right track.
Do I now need to unroot (using the method on the unlockr.com) and then reroot the phone using the easier method (also on the unlockr.com)?
deckard67 said:
I have successfully rooted my MyTouch 3g using the gold card method. Because my phone came preloaded with Android 1.6 i was not able to downgrade to cupcake using the easier method. But I have had some difficulty since, especially flashing any other recovery image other than the one that I was directed to use for the rooting process or loading a cyanogen rom. As i tinkered around with this stuff last night I may have had an epiphany but I want to make sure I am on the right track.
Do I now need to unroot (using the method on the unlockr.com) and then reroot the phone using the easier method (also on the unlockr.com)?
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So do you have a custom recovery image that allows you to flash ROMs?
If so you're good to go, otherwise we'll need to know what bootloader version you have so we can help you.
Once I update the OTA froyo 2.2, my phone will go very slow after a day ( a process called /init will use 100% CPU)
Then I recovery the device to factory setting. It seems work now!
However, I wanna root it and try other ROM. But When I search the Internet and try to find some way to root it, I got failed.
I tried to use the hack4legend_v5 to first downgrade it to 1.31.1, however, it can't change the /dev/mtd/mtd0 to drwxrwxrwx... only dr--rw----
I don't want to use the official ROM any more. Can anybody give me some hints to do root things or downgrade the phone?
Really Thanks!
HBOOT 1.00
Android 2.2
Baseband 47.51.35.17U_7.13.35.05
Kernel 2.6.32.17-g732a780
Software # 3.14.161.1
I'm in the same situation - does anyone know how to do this?
Sorry, duplicate post!
maybe this will help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894465
Ok I got my G2 when it first came out. Used the old rage method to get S-OFF and perma root. Now i'm reading people say that they have "real" S-OFF and real permaroot. Do I have to do the "gfree" method now or is my phone good as it is?
I understand that with gfree you can unlock your SIM and you can switch between S-OFF and S-ON.. I'd like to have those functions. How should I go about it? Do I do a factory reset to go back to stock and unroot and then use gfree method or is there a simpler way to do it?
Here's what I have right now:
Stock rom, I NEVER installed any OTA's.
I have Baconbits.
My baseband is: 12.22.60.09bU_26.02.01.15_M2
Kernel: 2.6.32.21-cyanogenmod [email protected]#1
Build #: 1.19.531.1 CL255798 release-keys
Thanks for all the help.
Since you have root and a stock rom installed, just run gfree -- that is ALL you need to do. The advantage, aside from unlocking the radio, is that with the proper s-off, there is some new security for the radio... for unbricking and for being able to withstand accidental OTA updates. A true radio s-off can take an OTA update containing BOTH an SPL and a Radio, and yet s-off remains.
dhkr234 said:
Since you have root and a stock rom installed, just run gfree -- that is ALL you need to do. The advantage, aside from unlocking the radio, is that with the proper s-off, there is some new security for the radio... for unbricking and for being able to withstand accidental OTA updates. A true radio s-off can take an OTA update containing BOTH an SPL and a Radio, and yet s-off remains.
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I'm in the same boat as the OP. How do i go about just running gfree?
sent from my V I S I O N.
Well I'm rooted with the old method as well but because I I cant flash cwm 3.x with the gree method. You need the eng hboot so ill stick with the old method until clockwork makes it work with the gfree method.
Sent from my gSpot2
PatrickHuey said:
I'm in the same boat as the OP. How do i go about just running gfree?
sent from my V I S I O N.
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See the Wiki for details. Assuming you are running a kernel where gfree works (again, see the Wiki on this), you just need a root shell on your phone, copy gfree to your phone (e.g. via adb push), then run gfree with the appropriate options, e.g. "./gfree -f".
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
elracing21 said:
Well I'm rooted with the old method as well but because I I cant flash cwm 3.x with the gree method. You need the eng hboot so ill stick with the old method until clockwork makes it work with the gfree method.
Sent from my gSpot2
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Using gfree does not get rid of the engineering hboot (or modify your existing hboot in anyway), so it's safe to do. And even if this was not the case, you can still flash the CWM3 recovery without the engineering hboot, only you'll have to use a different method than fastboot.
dhkr234 said:
Since you have root and a stock rom installed, just run gfree -- that is ALL you need to do. The advantage, aside from unlocking the radio, is that with the proper s-off, there is some new security for the radio... for unbricking and for being able to withstand accidental OTA updates. A true radio s-off can take an OTA update containing BOTH an SPL and a Radio, and yet s-off remains.
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thanks for responding. so this will work even though i dont have a stock kernel?
also, as far as OTA's go, you mean that if after i run gfree i will be able to apply the OTA without it unrooting my phone?
thank you
konoplya said:
thanks for responding. so this will work even though i dont have a stock kernel?
also, as far as OTA's go, you mean that if after i run gfree i will be able to apply the OTA without it unrooting my phone?
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Not sure about Baconbits, check the Wiki for the list of kernels that are known not to work with gfree.
If you apply the OTA after unlocking with gfree, you will still lose root but you won't lose the S-OFF and other stuff from gfree.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
steviewevie said:
Not sure about Baconbits, check the Wiki for the list of kernels that are known not to work with gfree.
If you apply the OTA after unlocking with gfree, you will still lose root but you won't lose the S-OFF and other stuff from gfree.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
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ok, i see. so if i loose root would i just have to run gfree again after I install OTA to gain root back?
konoplya said:
ok, i see. so if i loose root would i just have to run gfree again after I install OTA to gain root back?
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Not just gfree on its own, but you will need to go through the steps of getting temp root then perm root, which does use gfree as part of it. It's all in the Wiki.
konoplya said:
ok, i see. so if i loose root would i just have to run gfree again after I install OTA to gain root back?
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gfree does NOT root your phone. It UNLOCKS RADIO SECURITY -- permanently. You only run it ONCE, you NEVER have to run it again... EVER.
With UNLOCKED RADIO SECURITY, gaining root is TRIVIAL.
What gets root is RAGE or PSNEUTER.
dhkr234 said:
gfree does NOT root your phone. It UNLOCKS RADIO SECURITY -- permanently. You only run it ONCE, you NEVER have to run it again... EVER.
With UNLOCKED RADIO SECURITY, gaining root is TRIVIAL.
What gets root is RAGE or PSNEUTER.
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Yeah but gfree is often used as part of the rooting process, so I can see why people associate gfree with rooting.
gfree might be run more than once on a phone as part of the process to lock in root, i.e. to defeat the NAND write protection. Even though it's only needed once to unlock the radio etc, you might run it other times if you need to root a stock ROM and updates to that ROM.
gfree can be used to unlock radio security, but it has other options too. Sorry but I think your reply might confuse more people than it helps.
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Help me please! I tried to find my answer, but i'm not sure.
Can be possible use the update.zip without any modification? Or i need change the hboot?
Thank you!
Janaboy
I'm perm rooted! but I lost the ota update cause I was simi-brick how can I get the OTA update? do I have to to a factory reset?
You should get the OTA right away after restarting the phone, I know I did after going back to stock on just Saturday of this week. The first time I connected to the network it said an update was available and it was the OTA.
that hasnt happen and it need to hurry up!! lol
So do a Factory reset?
hiya guys, im kinda in the same boat. Just got the g2 with build 1.22.531.8 and perma rooted it with visionary/rage method. I want to get supercid, sim unlock with gfree. can someone post or direct me to instructions on how to do so? thanks for helping a noob.
aok680 said:
hiya guys, im kinda in the same boat. Just got the g2 with build 1.22.531.8 and perma rooted it with visionary/rage method. I want to get supercid, sim unlock with gfree. can someone post or direct me to instructions on how to do so? thanks for helping a noob.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Unlock_the_Phone.2C_Set_SuperCID.2C_and_Turn_Radio_S-OFF
I'm having trouble with getting a stable Data connection after doing the permanent root with gfree.
Now, I want to keep my sim unlock/S=Off/root, but I want to convert back to the 0.86.0000 Hboot.
Is this possible?
How can I do it?
Do custom roms require the engineering SPL?
Essenar said:
I'm having trouble with getting a stable Data connection after doing the permanent root with gfree.
Now, I want to keep my sim unlock/S=Off/root, but I want to convert back to the 0.86.0000 Hboot.
Is this possible?
How can I do it?
Do custom roms require the engineering SPL?
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If you just do the VISIONary.apk and the root.sh script you can keep root with the Stock Engineering. Once you flash the engineering screen i do not know how to revert back. But i'm sure someone does.