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Editing the FLash Lite 3.1 CAB

so i was wondering just how one would go about editing the flash lite cab floating around here to make it universally compatible amongst ppcs. is it outrageously complex?? are there liek any simple examples someone could give to show how the code might be changed?
i read a little about cab files but really felt like there had to be a simple solution to the overall buginess and unique situations needed for it to work. if some developers or techies can chime in on this ide love to learn a bit about how to accomplish these things. thanks in advance.

Why would you start a new thread rather than ask in the offical Flash Lite thread ?

Just Download OCP WinCe Cab Manger and open flash lite 3.1 and without modifying anything just press Save and now can install on PPC or SP

snachez said:
Why would you start a new thread rather than ask in the offical Flash Lite thread ?
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just a general tendency of people when they want to make sure they're heard.

totally. i just dont want my question to get buried in the 20+ posts per day that thread already gets. ive posted twice with only one response to anything i mentioned in the post. so i really wanted to ask an important question seperate from just "getting it to work somehow". is it possible to modify the file to be more compatible with the Kaiser WM6.1 so that it will function well right off the bat.
is the real issue that this cab and the opera versions everyone is using are both unofficial? meaning they both still contain bugs and compatibility problems. i wish there was a way to maybe rewrite the Flash Lite program that extracted so that its more universal.
btw, what does the above mentioned software do exactly?? since its already installable, im wondering if someone could change the program itself to work better with wm6.1 roms, and the latest version of opera 99% of time.

wow i posted not too long ago, this thread is now 4-5 pages burried!! hehe. so many posters. i guess thats why i love this site. but then again, i just wish someone would throw out some suggestions.

bump...would like to see this get working on at least all wm6.1 devices.

Android on ARM920T phones? (like Trinity.. ;-))

Dear all,
as I wrote on this other post (excuse me for crossposting - please mods to close the wrong-placed one):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=384850
there are two guys that recompiled Android for ARMv4 processor - like ARM920T, the trinity processor!!
Here you have the links:
http://benno.id.au/blog/
http://perpetual-notion.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-freerunnder-updates.html
They are working on the Freerunner and Neo1973 devices.. but the processor is the same..
Anyone out there wants Android on our beloved trinity?
At the moment I have no spare time (and skills) to take the challenge.. but I hope that someone will do.
I think that with the source code the CLZ and Thumb mode issues are completely addressed.
Anyone could confirm this to me?
Best regards,
s

Hi,
i'm also interested to see android on my htc hermes. i'm waiting benos new blog entries to see if he was able to run the code on "Neo1973".
What is the diference between htc hermes and htc dream (g1) regarding other chips beside the prcessor?
i don't think that drivers included in android can cover all chips in hermes. can someone maybe make an list of same and different devices(chips) in this 2 devices?
thanks

G phone?
So this is the same OS that the G phone is sporting yeah?
If The flashing process isn't harder than the current process then I'd be up for this. Also will it brick the phone?
Need some people to test.

Great Topic!
More information about this here:
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1368755|a1368755

http://review.source.android.com/user/sean,,mcneil.com
Since the openmoko is very like the p3600 I will give these patches a try. Let you know!

That would be awesome !
Please tel us your progression.

I'm waiting for a Android ROM for my Trinity ^_^

This is what we can try. The openmoke images are out. Since the openmoke is very like the p3600 we could give these images a try. The images are located over here.
http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/androidfs.jffs2
http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/uImage-android
We need haret for the images as well.
http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-0.5.2.exe
The thing we also need is to have a proper default.txt for haret. Who can help?

Hi piethein,
This will replace the rom we have installed in the trinity or is like an emulator running under wm ?
We dont loss any wm rom that we have installed ?

Dear all,
here you have some (bad) news:
http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/906dcae21176d4e9#
at the link above you will find a thread I started in adroid-porting developers group.
http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/0b3743f8151783f6#
at this link there are other infos, but let me report two msgs:
shaice:
Dear all,
sorry to bother you with (probably) silly questions but..
I own a HTC trinity that use the same ARM920T processor of Freerunner.
I saw benno's and christopher's posts on their blogs...
Is there any chance that your binaries will run on other ARM920T
phones?
Thank you in advance for any answer.
Best regards,
s
Christopher Friedt:
Hi Shaice,
In short, no (for now...)
Chris
sigh sob!
Now I'm searching for some fresh news.
Stay tuned!
s

uhmm reading somewhere in the group I found this post:
Jean-Baptiste Queru
3 Nov, 01:14
The shipping G1s have 192MB. Earlier development devices had 128MB,
and that wasn't quite enough to smoothly run the applications that
ship with the G1. Even if all the device's RAM could be allocated to
Android (no baseband, no framebuffer) 64MB would probably be very
tight, to the point where even foreground applications would risk
getting killed because of low memory conditions (the browser
especially comes to mind). In 32MB the system is likely to be
thrashing for memory even before it's done starting the system server
(if it can even start it at all).
JBQ
Mmmmh no good news for us.. :-/
s

Hi there,
basically these are great news!!!
piethein said:
This is what we can try. The openmoke images are out. Since the openmoke is very like the p3600 we could give these images a try. The images are located over here.
http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/androidfs.jffs2
http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/uImage-android
We need haret for the images as well.
http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-0.5.2.exe
The thing we also need is to have a proper default.txt for haret. Who can help?
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....but forget about running exactly these images on your trinity units.
It won't work
I don't want to digg your hope but there's a lot to do to make it real.
First:
You'll need a kernel that suits to trinity and offer some features the android OS needs.
Second:
You'll have to modify the image in jffs2 format to get loaded on trinity or build up a tricky environment to mount these image files after booting the kernel.
Have fun!
scholbert

Android on Trinity wanted!!
now that the full Android code is out it's possible!!
we can have Android on Trinity!!
please help... I cannot stand anymore WM!!

IMHO there is no enough memory to run smoothly android on trinity...
but stay tuned..
s

Dear all,
there is no hope for trinity users like us to see android running on our wonderful device.
As stated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/android-internals/browse_thread/thread/788c201e75ca7351
Android don't run on the ARM920T used in Neo1973.
In the following site
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#ARM_cores there is a table
where are described all the ARM cpu.
Android framework is compiled for the ARMv5 architecture version, so run on
the all the processors that belong to this architecture version and also in
some cpu of the new architecture (ARMv6/v7).
Other information can be found on this site
http://elinux.org/Android_on_OMAP#Real_hardware.
Best Regards,
Andrea Bernardi
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:-(
bye all
s

ehm...
on HTC vox wat i was using 2 weeks ago they builded a ADNROID rom !!! But they have only clock working but working !!! (no gsm,no edge,no menu,....)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368014&page=14

didoop said:
on HTC vox wat i was using 2 weeks ago they builded a ADNROID rom !!! But they have only clock working but working !!! (no gsm,no edge,no menu,....)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368014&page=14
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a new step per day, some time good new, other time bad news..... lets get hope that android will run on trinity...

[SOLVED] Cooking WM 6.5.5 Elfin Kitchen ... Need Some Help

Hey first of all i only start wid my problems.
I just cooked a WM6.5.5 Rom for Elfin and these are the problems i am facing.
OEM drivers 3.14 for Elfin.
-->i know that i will get the oem drivers by dumping the latest stock rom. but other elfin cooks are cooking with oem driver 3.14 which is not there in any stock rom. i am able to find 3.07 only. So some one please give me the link to OEM driver 3.14
When i add EXT packages like htc audio manager, album, its getting cooked but is not showing in phone.
how to add ExtRom
how to add SDAutorun application in my rom. i have the executable file but i dont know how to cook it in my rom
I hope i will get answers for all these question soon.
thank you
-Ankush

onlyankush_s said:
Hey first of all i only start wid my problems.
i just cooked a WM6.5.5 Rom for Elfin and these are the problems i am facing.
[1]Touch Screen is not functioning properly, so what should i do so that it works properly & how.
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[2]From where i can get latest htc camera, audio manager, album, photo canvas...etc so that i can include them in my rom.
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[3]From where i can get OEM Drivers 3.14 for Elfin
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[4]How can i change which time zone, date and time appears when phone starts after flashing my Rom.
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[5]Navigation Buttons along with Action button have stop working????
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[6]My phone is lagging a lot and gets stuck, what should i do?
I hope i will get answers for all these question soon.
thank you
-Ankush
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1.- touchscreen is not functioning properly???? please be more specific tell us what happend exactly to your tocuh screen.
2.- from where???? you can get the latest pkgs from the XDA developers.. using the search option like.... "latest camera QVGA"
3.- OEM Drivers??? for elfin??? you can get them dumping a stock rom this is basic from setting the kitchen i told you that your OEM drivers folder is poor dunno why.
4.- This is a good question for begginers
5.-Action button stops working??? you need to be specific cause some OLD wm6 (your dumped base rom) apps are incompatible with 6.5
6.- the rom is laghing a lot... well that is just experience
you will se when you add and delte old things will see that the rom will be better.
You know.... there is no need to make this huge thread...
cause the answers are there... you all new chefs needs to search as we did in our noobnest times

+ Que PPC said:
1.- touchscreen is not functioning properly???? please be more specific tell us what happend exactly to your tocuh screen.
2.- from where???? you can get the latest pkgs from the XDA developers.. using the search option like.... "latest camera QVGA"
3.- OEM Drivers??? for elfin??? you can get them dumping a stock rom this is basic from setting the kitchen i told you that your OEM drivers folder is poor dunno why.
4.- This is a good question for begginers
5.-Action button stops working??? you need to be specific cause some OLD wm6 (your dumped base rom) apps are incompatible with 6.5
6.- the rom is laghing a lot... well that is just experience
you will se when you add and delte old things will see that the rom will be better.
You know.... there is no need to make this huge thread...
cause the answers are there... you all new chefs needs to search as we did in our noobnest times
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i asked from where i can get latest pkgs and i am asking for pkgs that works in elfin
i know that i will get the oem drivers by dumping a stock rom. but other elfin cooks are cooking with with oem driver 3.14 which is not there in stock rom.

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General conscensus was to collapse the thread. I have adjusted the title to be more indicative of the help required.
Ankush, which kitchen are you using to cook your ROM - Ervius, OnDraster, etc.?
In response to:
touchscreen is not functioning properly???? Please be more specific tell us what happend exactly to your touch screen.
Did you omit any drivers or registry entries in OEM? Reads like you may have or there may be a compatibility issue ... see next response.
From where???? you can get the latest pkgs from the XDA developers.. using the search option like.... "latest camera QVGA"
Some camera package may not be compatible with the device or the version of OEM drivers. See next response.
OEM Drivers??? for elfin??? you can get them dumping a stock rom this is basic from setting the kitchen i told you that your OEM drivers folder is poor dunno why.
To elaborate; many chefs will track down an original ("official") HTC release ROM and extract it using a kitchen. They will then take this kitchen, make a copy of it for archive purposes, and start altering the kitchen.
Have a look at the Shipped ROM thread to see if you can locate the drivers you mention below.
This is a good question for begginers
There's a few thread on this already; have a look at the Tips And Tricks from Mr. Makk.
Action button stops working??? you need to be specific cause some OLD wm6 (your dumped base rom) apps are incompatible with 6.5
As above, it likely a driver issue. Also note that some device (ex: AT&T Fuze) have a proprietary KEYBOARD.DLL compiled specifically for the device. This may result in certain buttons not functioning with newer SYS and/or drivers from a similar device that doesn't have the same buttons.
The rom is laghing a lot... well that is just experience. you will se when you add and delte old things will see that the rom will be better.
You may need to increase the PagePool size. You'll need to some searching as different devices need different sizes - it's specific to RAM and processor.
HTH,

new questions look at the first post.....;

onlyankush_s said:
Hey first of all i only start wid my problems.
I just cooked a WM6.5.5 Rom for Elfin and these are the problems i am facing.
OEM drivers 3.14 for Elfin.
-->i know that i will get the oem drivers by dumping the latest stock rom. but other elfin cooks are cooking with oem driver 3.14 which is not there in any stock rom. i am able to find 3.07 only. So some one please give me the link to OEM driver 3.14
When i add EXT packages like htc audio manager, album, its getting cooked but is not showing in phone.
how to add ExtRom
how to add SDAutorun application in my rom. i have the executable file but i dont know how to cook it in my rom
I hope i will get answers for all these question soon.
thank you
-Ankush
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mmm interesting
1.- 3.14 maybe or maybe not is a hybrid... some are 3.07 and some are other ported OEM folders to ELFIN... i know that some of them works ok with elfin, like.... mmmm OPAL OEM drivers (some of them not all)
2 & 3.- As you may red on the tutorial I said that the EXT pkgs must have categorized.. something like
EXT
-ELFIN
--23658
--COMMON
---Conectivity
----Commanager_2.0_HTC_Mega
----Connection Setup_3.2_Opal
---Images
----OS images
----Red theme 6.5.X
----Red theme 6.5
---Reg tweaks
----Performance
----Asharsunny_touchresponse
----Regional_settings
be sure your new added EXT PKGS applications are well categorized
Remember too.. that every EXT pkg needs or sometings has as a default the files app.dat and app.reg... I will update the tutorial for other langs to explain this two files function for noobs, but if you search you can have many tutorials lost there in the forums by amesh... hilaireg... and many awsome members.
5.- the SDautorun is an enhaced function into the normal or RUNCC app... the SD autorun allows you to install apps onfirst boot via cab in your storage card...
The SD autorun needs a line in the config.txt that must be in the normalOEM pkg for autorun, mmmm something like...
LOCK:Enabled
EXEC:\Windows\SetHSDPA.exe /Enable
CAB: \Windows\Certs.cab
CAB: \Windows\SMSFIX.cab
CAB: \Windows\btfix.cab
Hide:Enabled
LOCKisabled
EXEC:\Windows\SDAutoRun.exe
THIS

@onlyankush_s
Not to offend you but most of the questions you are asking here are already answered on the board.
Cooking a rom is asking some action from you too. A lot of reading, trying, flashing, tweaking etc.
About the 3.14 base you are talking about you could try asking the people who are cooking with it.
I don't think Chef Central is created to dump questions but it's a place to help each other out if you realy don't know what to do anymore.
Just my 2 cents and good luck with cooking.
Leo

Laurentius26 said:
@onlyankush_s
Not to offend you but most of the questions you are asking here are already answered on the board.
Cooking a rom is asking some action from you too. A lot of reading, trying, flashing, tweaking etc.
About the 3.14 base you are talking about you could try asking the people who are cooking with it.
I don't think Chef Central is created to dump questions but it's a place to help each other out if you realy don't know what to do anymore.
Just my 2 cents and good luck with cooking.
Leo
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+1...i agree with you completely...search, flash, and read...it will take many trial and error before you find the correct combo!

Laurentius26 said:
@onlyankush_s
Not to offend you but most of the questions you are asking here are already answered on the board.
Cooking a rom is asking some action from you too. A lot of reading, trying, flashing, tweaking etc.
About the 3.14 base you are talking about you could try asking the people who are cooking with it.
I don't think Chef Central is created to dump questions but it's a place to help each other out if you realy don't know what to do anymore.
Just my 2 cents and good luck with cooking.
Leo
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No offence but Ya i know that, and i am not a fool that i will simply ask questions and not search it before.
About OEM3.14 drivers, i ask many cooks i dont want to name them but it seems one of them lost it, one of them modified it in his kitchen and some of them are not replying. Thats why i asked it over here.
And about SDAutorun, i saw the tutorial but nowhere it is mentioned that i have to add it in oem pkgs and edit config.txt
which i know now as our fellow member +Que PPC told it to me.

+ Que PPC said:
mmm interesting
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but i categorized ext only then also but other applications which i am trying by as EXT pkgs like g-alarm, regedit, arkswitch are working!!!!
hey thanks for the sdautorun tut i will work on it.

Sorry friend but it's obvious to me you didn't read at all.
If you ask questions why Album and Audiomanager not showing that's just a simple initflash edit which you can find in the sticky here at Chef Central.
And about Sdautorun offcourse that is explained on the board as well a simple search will give you answers.
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-2900107662879704:fs7umqefhnf&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=sdautorun
onlyankush_s said:
No offence but Ya i know that, and i am not a fool that i will simply ask questions and not search it before.
About OEM3.14 drivers, i ask many cooks i dont want to name them but it seems one of them lost it, one of them modified it in his kitchen and some of them are not replying. Thats why i asked it over here.
And about SDAutorun, i saw the tutorial but nowhere it is mentioned that i have to add it in oem pkgs and edit config.txt
which i know now as our fellow member +Que PPC told it to me.
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onlyankush_s said:
Hey first of all i only start wid my problems.
I just cooked a WM6.5.5 Rom for Elfin and these are the problems i am facing.
When i add EXT packages like htc audio manager, album, its getting cooked but is not showing in phone.
-Ankush
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@Ankush:
The original intention of Chef Central was to help beginner/aspiring chefs who felt overwhelmed by the task of chef'ing their own kitchen.
That said, most seasoned chefs have no issues providing guidance and assistance providing of course, that you have have taken the time to search the forum. There is a wealth of information available and often times, there is a thread that already provides insight into a particular problem that you may be experiencing.
Most seasoned chefs started off by cooking a ROM for their device using what was officially released by HTC. For example, I first started off with WM6.1 for my Raphael (as that is what was shipped by HTC) using Ervius PkgToolsBuildOS. When I was comfortable with this, I moved to Ervius Visual Kitchen; and then proceeded to inject WM 6.5.x to the kitchen. You have no idea how many times I re-read the Porting Tutorial - a lot!
It is important to provide as much detail as you can when posting about a problem you are experiencing. I also suggest contacting some of your fellow Elfin chefs as I am certain they would be more than happy to help as well - keep in mind that this is a hobby for most folks and that questions may go unanswered for a long time. Additionally, manufacturers, vendors, and operators aren't really keen on what we do so other than the tutorials and information you find on forums such as these ... you're going to have to learn by trial-and-error.
Lastly, as I believe that threads in Chef Central should remain open to help on an ongoing basis, I also feel that it is the responsibility of the OP to eventually mark their thread as [SOLVED] ... hence my initial recommendation that each problem be a single thread. I also feel that you, as an aspiring chef, must take the time to research before posting about an issue you are having.
Regards,

hilaireg said:
@Ankush:
The original intention of Chef Central was to help beginner/aspiring chefs who felt overwhelmed by the task of chef'ing their own kitchen.
That said, most seasoned chefs have no issues providing guidance and assistance providing of course, that you have have taken the time to search the forum. There is a wealth of information available and often times, there is a thread that already provides insight into a particular problem that you may be experiencing.
Most seasoned chefs started off by cooking a ROM for their device using what was officially released by HTC. For example, I first started off with WM6.1 for my Raphael (as that is what was shipped by HTC) using Ervius PkgToolsBuildOS. When I was comfortable with this, I moved to Ervius Visual Kitchen; and then proceeded to inject WM 6.5.x to the kitchen. You have no idea how many times I re-read the Porting Tutorial - a lot!
It is important to provide as much detail as you can when posting about a problem you are experiencing. I also suggest contacting some of your fellow Elfin chefs as I am certain they would be more than happy to help as well - keep in mind that this is a hobby for most folks and that questions may go unanswered for a long time. Additionally, manufacturers, vendors, and operators aren't really keen on what we do so other than the tutorials and information you find on forums such as these ... you're going to have to learn by trial-and-error.
Lastly, as I believe that threads in Chef Central should remain open to help on an ongoing basis, I also feel that it is the responsibility of the OP to eventually mark their thread as [SOLVED] ... hence my initial recommendation that each problem be a single thread. I also feel that you, as an aspiring chef, must take the time to research before posting about an issue you are having.
Regards,
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okay i got it. thank you everyone.

iam trying to cook my own wm6.5.3 23569 rom for elfin
evry thing is good but when i try to flash the rom it bootup but
it stop at window mobile screen
what to do plzzzz help me

onlyankush_s said:
OEM drivers 3.14 for Elfin.
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The 3.14 OEMDrvers for Elfin comes from RUU_Elfin_Dopod_CHS_3.14.706.02_4.1.13.71_03.34.90_BLUE_Ship.exe.

Beginners help with cooking please

Hi all,
so I am new to the world of Windows Mobile - use to be a Symbian fan and then got the HTC Touch Diamond recently due to my Nokia dieing of old age.
I want to learn how to cook ROMs so I can customize what I want as I want. I tried sending Da_G a PM as he seems to be quite knowledable about cooking - although he seems to be MIA (his last post was a long time ago) and I have not gotten a reply yet.
So now onto some questions which are probably stupid, but I do not know the answers to.
So I have an HTC Touch Diamond which originally comes with Windows Mobile 6.1, I am using osKitchen as it seems really popular and it looks easy enough to use. I followed the guide which is here but it does not give me the complete info I want.
So in order to cook a ROM you first need to have an original ROM (so in my case an original ROM for the HTC Touch Diamond off the HTC site?)... I got that(RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-AFK_2.03.421.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.09.25.23_Ship.exe)
Then you open it up with osKitchen, it extracts it blah blah blah.
I then get a popup about a new ROM has been imported and it asks me if I want to automatically configure the project to use the ROM. I click yes.
Then it says the device profile currently selected uses a pre 6.5 kernel, module allocation space will be extremely limited. Do I want to auto enable module to file conversion for a list of files? Now I read somewhere that if you are using pre 6.5 kernel you want files, if you are using the 6.5 kernel you want modules? I am not sure what to click here as I want to upgrade to windows mobile 6.5 ...
So do I enable the conversion or not?
Then it pops up with the project settings, under SYS Packages I can see all of the phones services. OEM packages, I am not too sure what that is... One thing which is worrying is that there is a red circle with an X in it infront of OEM Drivers... If I hover over it, it says there are issues detected in the OEMdriers. They all seem to be errors detected in the registry and the registery key path entry is invalid due to 2 adjacent backslahes? So is this normal? What do I do?
Also there is a block "RecMod" under OEM Packages. What does that do and what is it used for?
EXT Packages, over here we have all of the applications which will be preinstalled when you flash the ROM? I know how to add .cab packages to it and it seems simple enough. Once again there is a RecMod with a tick box?
ROM Tweaking I have not really bothered with yet, would first like to learn the basics. Anything I should know about in ROM Tweaking?
Now back to SYS Packages. This is where you update/port/upgrade ? to newer windows mobile versions? Now I think if you are changing between window mobile major build versions or what ever you want to call it (like from 6.1 to 6.5) kernel changes perhaps? You call it porting? Anyways, so now I want to change to the latest build in WM6.5 .
I took a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650783
Now it seems like the first 3 digits indicate something, what exactly I am not too sure. Perhaps someone could explain?
There is HTC HTC which is made by HTC I think and possibly meant for HTC?
Then there is COM 2 and LG. Now since I have an HTC do I have to use the HTC one or not? Also it seems some have newer / higher WM builds? So why are there these many different builds and what difference does it make as to what they are? Also what are the COM 2, 3 and 5 ?
Anyways, I downloaded the HTC one. Now I want to port / upgrade to it. It is WM6.5 now as well. So I click Import, then goto Import a new WM build. Select the appropriate build dump, then click on start importing. It will import it and then what? Is there anything else I need to do?
I am assuming go back to Project Settings and under SYS build change it to the newer one which I have just imported? Although is this really all I need to do? Will I now have a proper functioning cooked ROM running WM6.5 with the new build?
Thanks

If you're cooking a 6.5 rom, and you have a 6.5 native kernel (there should be one out there, unless you're using a cdma diamond), then DO NOT RECMOD (convert to files). If you have to use a 6.1 kernel, then you have to recmod a lot of modules. Look around, there are threads with native kernels for many older devices. I'm not going to dig up a link, I'll let you find it. Just get the Diamond native kernel and use it.
If you have a cdma diamond, then I believe that people use the cdma raphael native kernel, but supposedly it's buggy.
OEM Drivers has an .rgu that usually has a few mistakes in it; that's probably the error you're getting. I wouldn't worry about it, but the kitchen may tell you which line the error appears in, and you can fix it.
As far as rom tweaking goes, all you need to know is that manila sucks, and Sense is blight on humanity. Good luck and have fun.

Real Beginners Stuff Please.
PsyCLown89 said:
Hi all,
so I am new to the world of Windows Mobile......
I want to learn how to cook ROMs so I can customize what I want as I want.....
So now onto some questions which are probably stupid, but I do not know the answers to......
...... I followed the guide which is here but it does not give me the complete info I want.....
..... What do I do?
..... What does that do and what is it used for?
..... would first like to learn the basics......
..... so now I want to change to the latest build in WM6.5 .
..... do I have to use the HTC one or not? Also it seems some have newer / higher WM builds? So why are there these many different builds and what difference does it make as to what they are? Also what are the COM 2, 3 and 5 ?
.....and then what? Is there anything else I need to do?
.....Thanks
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Hi,
So many questions
I too am new to the world of Windows Mobile, and have learnt how to flash different ROMs sussessfully.
I have spent my time reading hundreds of threads about flashing, and having a go - the tutorials and threads have been great source of knowledge.
Now I want to start cooking a ROM and things are different..... I have read thousands of posts and tutorials and watched videos, but I haven't found a real Noobs method of: starting, choosing a kitchen, finding a ROM, importing the new bits, and making the changes. It all goes wrong right from the very start.
Choose a kitchen, and then what ? (exact steps, not just "find a ROM you like, then..", etc. etc.)
None of the threads I have read seem to be able to give the nitty gritty to start, they all skip over it.
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
Please can someone give a REAL NOOBS guide to starting off.
Thanks & Regards,

It all comes down to the basics. If you do not know what a kitchen actually does, then there probably is no point in cooking to start of with.
Kitchens available today make a lot of things heaps easier than they were several years ago.
Try starting with this thread.... it is not for your device, but you get to learn the basics and actually understand what happens in the background.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335631
Cooking is not just clicking around with your mouse.

pkoper said:
.... If you do not know what a kitchen actually does, then there probably is no point in cooking to start of with.
..... Cooking is not just clicking around with your mouse.
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This may be new to me, but it also was to EVERY cook there is, or has been at sometime. We all learn something new at some time, and all I was asking for is a little starter to get me going. I realaise it isn't a point and click exercise, otherwise I would have made a ROM by now, and not asked for help. I didn't write the software for the kitchen, so I don't know how it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335631
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Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that one, but unfortunately, it also doesn't give the procedure for starting with a WM6.1 ROM and adding/changing files to end up with a WM6.5 Native Kernel.
Please, give me a break.

Fish-Man said:
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
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Using search you would have found the native kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619663
Fish-Man said:
Thanks for that, I hadn't seen that one, but unfortunately, it also doesn't give the procedure for starting with a WM6.1 ROM and adding/changing files to end up with a WM6.5 Native Kernel.
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Thats exactly what I meant. Do you know what the kernel actualy is?

pkoper said:
Using search you would have found the native kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619663
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Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
Thats exactly what I meant. Do you know what the kernel actualy is?
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Yes, It's a piece of code, usually written in assembly language (for speed of execution), that sits between the hardware devices and the system drivers and programs, to translate what the programs want, to what the hardware can understand, and deliver the results from the hardware, back to the programs.
It is the core of the Operating System, and is the first thing that is loaded into memory when the system boots, and stays there until you turn off the device (unlike other programs that are loaded, and unloaded as needed). It is loaded into a seperate and protected area of memory, where it executes processes, handles interrupts, memory management, process management, file management and I/O management.
The User, cannot interract directly with the kernel (or hardware), but has to go via a seperate program (usually containing a GUI), that can send it's requests to the kernel for processing. After the kernel has processed the programs requests, the kernel gives the information to the program, which then outputs it to the User.
Is that enough of an explanation ? Sorry I had to simplify it, but there are a lot of other noobs here that may have gained some knowledge from that, so rather than blow thier minds with acronyms and babble, I thought it best to explain it simply.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
Regards,

Fish-Man said:
Hi,
So many questions
I too am new to the world of Windows Mobile, and have learnt how to flash different ROMs sussessfully.
I have spent my time reading hundreds of threads about flashing, and having a go - the tutorials and threads have been great source of knowledge.
Now I want to start cooking a ROM and things are different..... I have read thousands of posts and tutorials and watched videos, but I haven't found a real Noobs method of: starting, choosing a kitchen, finding a ROM, importing the new bits, and making the changes. It all goes wrong right from the very start.
Choose a kitchen, and then what ? (exact steps, not just "find a ROM you like, then..", etc. etc.)
None of the threads I have read seem to be able to give the nitty gritty to start, they all skip over it.
I have a Kaiser, and am in a similar position to you, there isn't a native 6.5 kernel for the Kaiser, so how do I make a 6.5 build in a kitchen, when I don't have a 6.5 build to start off ?
Please can someone give a REAL NOOBS guide to starting off.
Thanks & Regards,
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I don't think what you're looking for exist, persay. There are several kitchens out there to choose from. The only thing that helped me when starting out was frequenting the thread of the kitchen that I was using. It's in the kitchen's thread that you'll find all the nitty gritty answers you're looking for and other people that are in the same boat as you, and more experienced users of the same kitchen who would probably be more apt at answering questions about specific kitchen.
Fish-Man said:
Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
Yes, It's a piece of code, usually written in assembly language (for speed of execution), that sits between the hardware devices and the system drivers and programs, to translate what the programs want, to what the hardware can understand, and deliver the results from the hardware, back to the programs.
It is the core of the Operating System, and is the first thing that is loaded into memory when the system boots, and stays there until you turn off the device (unlike other programs that are loaded, and unloaded as needed). It is loaded into a seperate and protected area of memory, where it executes processes, handles interrupts, memory management, process management, file management and I/O management.
The User, cannot interract directly with the kernel (or hardware), but has to go via a seperate program (usually containing a GUI), that can send it's requests to the kernel for processing. After the kernel has processed the programs requests, the kernel gives the information to the program, which then outputs it to the User.
Is that enough of an explanation ? Sorry I had to simplify it, but there are a lot of other noobs here that may have gained some knowledge from that, so rather than blow thier minds with acronyms and babble, I thought it best to explain it simply.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
Regards,
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Nice quick knowledge drop on kernel. It sounds to me like you already have a better grasp on things then some!

Fish-Man said:
Thanks, but I already have them. They are "files" not a "stock build" that the cooks tell you to start with. Again, do I need to start with a "stock build" of WM6.1, or can I use those WM6.5 "files" instead, if so, what am I missing from the "stock build" that I need to continue ?
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Thats because there is no stock 6.5 for the Kaiser. Not sure what "those WM6.5 files" are, but you do need the drivers for your device. Any leaked build will not contain those.
Dumping a stock rom will give you insight as to what is actually in the rom. When you then download one of the leaked builds you can you will recognize the files and hence see what needs replacing in order to upgrade.
Now, are there any more questions you want me to answer, before telling me what I need to know, to understand the first few steps in cooking a ROM ?
Regards,
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What kitchen are you using? As there are obviously slight differences as to what is where.
I would just get a ready kitchen and study it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517957

for your reference maybe you should read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901712
i had made the tutorial how to cook ROM, step by step. it has different device and different OS but worth to read.....
i don't have enough capability to Cook but i try to....
also in this http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=385
some of members also made tutorial as well.......
i hope it can help.

[Q] ROM (builds and kitchen)

Hi all.
I'm creating a Windows Mobile Rom.
1)---I want to create a rom modifying my smartphone's rom and NOT creating a rom from a clean one (it will be almost impossibile).
2)---Which kitchen can i use?
3)---Where can I download the latest Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.5 Builds? (Da-G's download don't work anymore on Mediafire)
Thanks

Try OS Builder as this is the most advanced and all in one solution. But be aware that if you start from an already cooked ROM you may face many kinds of problems because many cooks have applied methods to prevent dumping their ROMs.
Good luck!

tobbbie said:
Try OS Builder as this is the most advanced and all in one solution. But be aware that if you start from an already cooked ROM you may face many kinds of problems because many cooks have applied methods to prevent dumping their ROMs.
Good luck!
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Thanks for you reply!
But, to pass from Winmo 6.0 to Winmo 6.1 or 6.5, do I need 6.1 or 6.5 builds (xip,sys)?
Where can I download these build?

Mich-C said:
Thanks for you reply!
But, to pass from Winmo 6.0 to Winmo 6.1 or 6.5, do I need 6.1 or 6.5 builds (xip,sys)?
Where can I download these build?
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Oh well - you are much on your own with this old stuff now. Usually you cannot do much to the XIP (Kernel) parts as they are largely HW dependent. SYS is part of the ROM anyway and so part of regular cooking. Lookup the forums for your device and download what you can get. If it is an exotic device your chances are ~zero to get anything useful. If you have no experience in cooking it is a very long way to succeed (talking in weeks and months of learning!) - and there no others fighting the same problems any more. Look up the introduction link from my signature to get an idea of how things are connected.
What is your starting point (HW, ROM) and where do want to go?

TOBBIE, in practice I want to use Os Kitchen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628948) because it's very simple to use.(I can alredy use it).
I downloaded but when I open it, I have the first screen (that showed in the thread). Is written: "....please, select an official rom update file..." It refers to an update Windows Mobile Build for cook the Rom.
So I searched Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.5 Builds. I found 2 very good Builds from Da_G :
-6.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547314
-6.5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544445
But ALL Links don't work and I ABSOLUTELY need this Build, without it, I can't cook...

Sorry, I have no experience with OS Kitchen. I have only used OS Builder finally and a very old device specific batch-kitchen before this.

Thanks, Can i give you "THANKS"?
But with wich build did you used to cook?

Mich-C said:
Thanks, Can i give you "THANKS"?
But with wich build did you used to cook?
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Well first you need to split smartphone (no touchscreen) from touchscreen devices.
I have cooked only for smartphone -> see my signature kitchen and stuff is all there.
Then find a stock ROM for the right type (smartphone or touchscreen) with largely similar properties (screen resolution, maybe also CPU/Chipset).
Can't you tell which device you want to cook for?

I want to cook for my Toshiba Portege G910 with WinMob 6 Professional.
It's touchscreen, it has Qwerty Keyboard, it has Wvga Resolution 800x480. There is not even a rom for this device.
But I want to cook in Italian language, (I'm italian )

This will be tough I guess. Mind that a new ROM will not change the kernel, so any of the new memory schemes introduced with W6.1 and WM6.5 will not apply even if you put a new OS on top of it. So basically you will not gain speed with a new ROM. Adding a language is a tricky thing but is possible, see my signature, even without cooking an all new ROM. So is there no Italian on the device at all?

Oh, I'm sad for this: no extra speed
When I bought, my phone had italian language.
The Toshiba Portege G900 is very very similar to my G910. Also the G900 has WinMob 6.0 Pro.
An Italian guy made a Winmo 6.1 rom for the G900 (in italian language), and now the G900 is very very fast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4h23pR6JbI
I want to this with my G910, IT'S possible. Salvyc83 do this
(But now he can't help me)

Search for speed tweaks on WM6 if you are happy with the device otherwise. The effort to cook a well running 6.1 is enormous and it is not guaranteed if you get it faster on the UI then.
There are various registry settings to play with which can make the UI faster responding (cache for icons or fonts).
Good luck!

I need too to learn cooking roms. I will follow this thread.