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A few perplexing questions

My HD seems to have the occasional quirk, well two at the moment that are a bit annoying.
Firstly the time on the TF home screen has randomly changed styles twice now. I have no idea why and can't find a way of changing it back (after it changed the first time it changed back again the next day) Any ideas how/why and has anyone else had this?
The other main thing that is now really annoying me is the portrait keyboard has changed from full qwerty to compact qwerty, I have tried changing it back in the "input" setting but it doesn't want to save the setting. Again anyone have an idea why this has changed and any way I can change it back and keep it changed?
Also could anyone tell me what the name of the thin bar at the top of the TF screen is (and where I can find it?) because I would like to delete it if ti's possible.
Thanks

Amp34 said:
The other main thing that is now really annoying me is the portrait keyboard has changed from full qwerty to compact qwerty, I have tried changing it back in the "input" setting but it doesn't want to save the setting. Again anyone have an idea why this has changed and any way I can change it back and keep it changed?
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I had the same annoying compact querty problem coming out of nowhere and I found the solution: you can't change it from settings->input, but when you open any app which permits the virtual keyboard(eg: sms/mms) you will notice a little arrow "^" near the virtual keyboard button in the middle. when you press that arrow instead of the virtual keyboard popping up, it will popup a menu where you can select between compact/full querty and there it is, the change remains

for your clock problem, i think you have to slide it back from up to down to show the one you want. And yes the little arrow near sip sign open a finger friendly menu where you can choose compact or not. Hope it helps, in my manual for the HD all about this is tell, but i've read it...
PS: when you have a prob like that post a screenshot, use capsure for example, it work with HD.

How do I change my keyboard?

Hello,
I've been struggling with my keyboard settings since I got my Touch HD. At first, it was a complete QWERTY keyboard. I wanted to change it to a normal keyboard, like on a regular cellphone. I didn't know how to do this. But suddenly, without knowing what the hell I was doing, I accidentally got the keyboard to change. But now my problem is... Well, you know the layout is as such:
1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9
Shift 0 Symbol
...I have two problems with this. The first is: I can't type any letters, even if I hold the keys down, so basically, I can't text message to anyone. The second problem is that I have no idea how to change it back. If you could just tell me how to change keyboards, AND how to make the regular cellphone keyboard layout WORK (I have chubby fingers), I'd be really, really grateful.
Thank you for your time.
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Oh. I see. How irritating. How am I supposed to know that there are actually two buttons in the center button? Oh well. This still doesn't change my ABC / Numeric problem.

Hi Alfa Jez
Assuming that you have not tweaked your phone in anyway.
There are two ways to change the keyboard settings on your phone.
First, is to go to Settings and within settings your Windows menu option (press window flag top left hand corner of the screen, settings is the second from bottom menu item) and then it gives the option of "Input" showing a keyboard and from there it gives you the option to set your "Input Method" as well as other options on word completion etc.
Secondly, you should be able to change the input settings directly from the middle bottom of your screen once your virtual keyboard has been activated. There is a little up arrow which if you press should give you the option of "Touch Input Settings".
Hope this helps. This information is in the manual.
Best wishes
Kaid

Thank you for taking the time to reply, but I'm afraid this doesn't help me. What you've told me so far, I already know.
Although, I have tweaked my phone with HD Tweak. But no big changes at all.

What does your keyboard look like right now?
Are you stuck on a number-only pad or symbols-only pad or do you see letters on the keys?
Here are some pictures. Tell us which one is the one you have right now.
You should be able to switch through these pads via Sym, 123, ABC keys in the different keypads. You also see that the symbols keypad has 13 different pads to scroll through and it can be "locked" (lock key). That causes it to stay there after pressing different keys. When unlocked, it automatically goes to the normal letters/numbers pad after you have entered one symbol.

Well, my problem is that, even though I have the one with the letters, (of course, it's needed to type letters) I can only type numbers. If you see my problem. I can see the letters and the number, but it seems only to want to use the numbers. Even if I hold the keys down, no letters appear.

Hmm, if you what you have is the second picture above and yet you can only type numbers, then I don't really know what to do. On that screen I only get the numbers if I tap and hold for a second. A quick tap gets me the letters.
Maybe someone else might know what is wrong there.
Did this start recently or have you always had that problem on your HD? Or did it start after you installed a certain program or made some kind of registry change?

Alpha Jez said:
Thank you for taking the time to reply, but I'm afraid this doesn't help me. What you've told me so far, I already know.
Although, I have tweaked my phone with HD Tweak. But no big changes at all.
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I suppose you turned on T9 in HD tweak? If so, turn it off, then soft reset. This problem is being brought up on an almost daily basis.......

michi123 said:
I suppose you turned on T9 in HD tweak? If so, turn it off, then soft reset. This problem is being brought up on an almost daily basis.......
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Did turn it on, yes. But I read other people having the same problem, and they were also told to turn off T9, so I tried that as well. Haven't tried soft resetting, though. (Soft resetting = Turn off, and back on, right? ) Will do!
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After soft resetting, it worked! Thanks to both of you, I'm jumpin' up and down as we speak. ^^

Glad it worked. Just a word of caution: as you don´t seem too familiar with windows mobile (soft reset is one of the most used word/actions as it´s still windows...) just be careful when using different kinds of tweaks (HD tweak, advanced config) or modifying the registry directly. Don´t just change/turn on/off something because it sounds good. If you don´t know what you are doing it can mess up your device real bad......
Been there, done that......

I'll be cautious, and try to control my curiosity. ^^

Are you still jumping up and down? Or has the excitement worn off?
I'm glad it works now.

Help me get back my original keyboard

Hi guys, i just installed a trial for Lingvsoft English>Farsi dictionary and the first thing i noticed was my keyboard had changed to something more stylus friend but not finger friendly.
I didn't take much notice to it thinking it was only for that program but noticed it was on every screen from SMS to Notes.
Even going to Settings>Input and changing Keyboard types doesn't work. It is on a setting called "Keyboard" and everytime i drop the menu and choose Full Qwerty and press Ok, it doesn't save and keeps the same setting over and over.
I have even uninstalled the program and soft resetted but it hasn't fixed it up.
I want to get back the original keyboard, please help me out.

try selecting something completely different, like block recogniser or transcriber or something and the restart the device. If it sticks choose try the compact qwerty and then restart. If that sticks too goto full qwert. If none of this works then it sounds like your qwerty has been replaced and you might need a hard-reset.

I couldn't change mine from the keyboard options under settings, it kept reverting back.
When you are in an sms press the little arrow next to the keyboard icon at the bottom of the screen and change it there, it worked for me.

spooki37 said:
I couldn't change mine from the keyboard options under settings, it kept reverting back.
When you are in an sms press the little arrow next to the keyboard icon at the bottom of the screen and change it there, it worked for me.
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Legend! Thanks that fixed it

Fixed my problem too.
I also had the issue that the keyboard was only inputting numbers - disabled T9 in HD Tweaks - reset then all ok.
r
Andrew

how can I go in "HD Tweaks" ?

Typing a nightmare?

If you find that it's really difficult to type using the hd2 - I advise you Align the screen.
The device doesn't make you do this when you first boot it but I found it solved my problem.
go to....
settings >> menu >> all settings >> system >> screen
I advise you not to use a stylus to do this but your finger - may be a bit tricky but if you can touch the crosses accurately enough with your finger you will find this benefits you when using everything.
I also turned on ClearType as I always had that on and default is off.
hope it's not been mentioned already.

spvc500 said:
If you find that it's really difficult to type using the hd2 - I advise you Align the screen.
The device doesn't make you do this when you first boot it but I found it solved my problem.
go to....
settings >> menu >> all settings >> system >> screen
I advise you not to use a stylus to do this but your finger - may be a bit tricky but if you can touch the crosses accurately enough with your finger you will find this benefits you when using everything.
I also turned on ClearType as I always had that on and default is off.
hope it's not been mentioned already.
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Thats really good to know. A lot of people said that with capacitive screens you don't align them but with my Hero I had to.
Very very good news, thanks for this

I think it has a lot to do with the keyboard manager.
I've tried HTC's, Resco's and SPB's keyboard, and SPB is by far the best for fingers, since it does not change letters after you type them, and it even allows full-screen keyboard when you need to type a lot of complicated symbols.
Resco's is too small and makes it hard to type symbols besides letters; HTC's is overly predictive and corrective to the detriment of productivity. SPB just works.

Wow!!! What a diference. You barely even need the predictive keyboard after aligning the screen.

good to know for when it arrives, thanks!
im pretty sure I posted this, but im dead tired, so since im here...
anyone tried this keyboard, http://www.mobiletextinput.com/about.php

yeah someone who had a HD2 before me told me they had to hard reset after trying align..
so I tested it earlier (just to see) and of course it works fine.. typing is now a joy rather than a bear to use !

fards said:
yeah someone who had a HD2 before me told me they had to hard reset after trying align..
so I tested it earlier (just to see) and of course it works fine.. typing is now a joy rather than a bear to use !
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hard reset would just clear away the setting causing you to do a new alignment, back and fort
think you mean soft reset?

br3nt said:
hard reset would just clear away the setting causing you to do a new alignment, back and fort
think you mean soft reset?
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I know EXACTLY what I meant, thank you very much!
the guy who tried the screen align could no longer use the screen, so resorted to a hard reset to get rid of it.
I'm wondering what they did wrong to cause it not to work...

fards said:
I know EXACTLY what I meant, thank you very much!
the guy who tried the screen align could no longer use the screen, so resorted to a hard reset to get rid of it.
I'm wondering what they did wrong to cause it not to work...
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After posting above I did run into some trouble in landscape mode. However, a soft reset got everything working perfectly.

After using resistive screen we need to remember to raise fingers that little bit further when typing. I'm beginning to type pretty fast now without mistakes.

So are people definately finding improvements in accuracy of typing when using aligning feature or is it best to leave it alone?

spvc500 said:
If you find that it's really difficult to type using the hd2 - I advise you Align the screen.
The device doesn't make you do this when you first boot it but I found it solved my problem.
go to....
settings >> menu >> all settings >> system >> screen
I advise you not to use a stylus to do this but your finger - may be a bit tricky but if you can touch the crosses accurately enough with your finger you will find this benefits you when using everything.
I also turned on ClearType as I always had that on and default is off.
hope it's not been mentioned already.
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Wow that sure helped a lot.
Thanks!
Should be added to the sticky tips and tricks post!

problems with typing
I did align the screen and turned on the cleartype.
After doing that it was just a tad better than it was before.
And it was a nightmare !!
But i tried to turn cleartype OFF.
And it is alot better now !!

Does anyone find it annoying how sentences don't actually automatically capitalise after using a full stop?
I have 'auto capitalise new sentence' option ticked under input settings too. Oddly, it auto capitalises after the use of '!' and '?' but just not a full stop...

I too am finding this keyboard hard to use. Sometimes impossible. I have aligned the screen and am trying to be as gentle as possible. In fact I find u don’t even have to touch it to set it off. Just hover your finger above the screen. And even hovering your finger above it can cause it to go mad and press every button in sight.
Sometimes if I press backspace repeatedly, it will press m, n, b, and v buttons too for me. I mean that’s about a finger and a half away from where I’m touching.
I have tried using the keypad as the buttons are bigger and again here I find if I press 7 (pqrs) it can press the one button too, and u can see it twitching all of the place when u hold. I held the power button to get the shutdown/lock options screen up, and without even touching the screen it selected silent. I’m finding it very very frustrating. I have been used to using the iPhone 3GS for few months, which I hate, but so far the screen is miles better.
I even opened notepad and drew some lines and on some swipes u can see instead of producing a smooth line it jaggers all over the place. To me it seems over sensitive/broken, but from what others say is this correct? The touch HD input was better than this. But I have no problems using the phone elsewhere than the keyboard.
The phone is great but currently I’m hugely disappointed with the screen. And so its letting the whole unit down.
Am i being useless or does my unit sounds bust?

simplymee said:
Does anyone find it annoying how sentences don't actually automatically capitalise after using a full stop?
I have 'auto capitalise new sentence' option ticked under input settings too. Oddly, it auto capitalises after the use of '!' and '?' but just not a full stop...
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My HTC Hero does this also, which is quite annoying!

Ok, when the Touch HD was out there was a program which allowed you to increase the sensitivity of the screen, think it was HD Tweak. This improved the sensitivity of the screen quite well.
Maybe there is a registry tweak we can do to turn down the sensitivity of the screen to help out?
Has anyone informed HTC about this yet?

I found typing accuracy slightly worse after running the alignment process which is weird.
The problem is, we're blazing a trail with the HD2 as there are currently no other winmo devices with a capacitive screen. The HTC full qwerty doesn't seem to be ideally suited to capacitive - the keys register presses far too readily and sometimes, as your finger is lifted from the screen, it's very easy to register a press in an adjacent button.
After a couple of days using it, it seems accuracy and a light touch are the order of the day - until HTC (or another enterprising software house) release a keyboard that's actually tailored to the Leo

Is this setting is what need to be changed for changing the sensitivity?
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GWE\Touch\Filter]

skr_xd said:
Is this setting is what need to be changed for changing the sensitivity?
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GWE\Touch\Filter]
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Tried set it to 1,10,100 and did not notice anything. But would love to find something like that.

Modded ROM vs. standard ROM keyboard lag difference?

Hi. I have been running a couple of modded ROMs and the htc_ime i install on those ROMs is always laggy and somewhat buggy. Is it the same with standard ROM?
One of the bugs i have noticed is that sometimes, when i press space it just goes nuts and creates a period(dot) and just continues to make spaces for a short period. And this has happened on several ROMs.

It's the HTC_IME, not the ROM. the HTC keyboard is designed to put a period and two spaces when / if you hold the keyboard for too long. I haven't looked at the actual code to see how many milliseconds it is, but that is what is happening. Try to tap the space bar quicker and it should be fine.

Thanks for your reply, but thats not whats happening. I press space fast enough. I am aware of the fact that it puts out a dot if you hold it or tap it twice . It does not explain why it continues to make spaces after it makes the dot. It goes totally bananas

Its a setting.
I have a custom rom but im almost certain that the setting is a standard feature.
Its called "Add a space after dot" or equal and you should find it in the settings for input and text.
Good luck.

dicksisfontes said:
I have a custom rom but im almost certain that the setting is a standard feature.
Its called "Add a space after dot" or equal and you should find it in the settings for input and text.
Good luck.
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I also know this is considered a feature, and I intentionally have it on. HOWEVER, there is often keyboard lag, where you can quickly tap on a key, and the software does not recognize that it was a quick tap and processes it as if you held it down for a longer period. With the space bar, you get the period + spaces. I frequently get the same effect on other keys, yielding numbers, etc instead what I wanted.
The keyboard lag is *awful* and I consider it one of the bigger usability flaws in the mytouch.

majoraccent said:
I also know this is considered a feature, and I intentionally have it on. HOWEVER, there is often keyboard lag, where you can quickly tap on a key, and the software does not recognize that it was a quick tap and processes it as if you held it down for a longer period. With the space bar, you get the period + spaces. I frequently get the same effect on other keys, yielding numbers, etc instead what I wanted.
The keyboard lag is *awful* and I consider it one of the bigger usability flaws in the mytouch.
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Yeah i get that exact same thing. It is REALLY annoying the !#¤% out of me

Try using Super D, I get no lag on the key board and its a great 1.6 ROM. Its possible it could be a hardware issue, try going into the dev tools and click pointer location. See whats going on with your touch screen.

phatmanxxl said:
Try using Super D, I get no lag on the key board and its a great 1.6 ROM. Its possible it could be a hardware issue, try going into the dev tools and click pointer location. See whats going on with your touch screen.
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I am using Super D at the moment . Turning the vibration feedback off helped somewhat, but in landscape mode it is still lagging a lot. Tried pointer location, and the screen seems fine to me

FYI, I switched off the predictive text input option on HTC_IME, which got rid of just about all of the lag. It works very well with haptic feedback now. Unfortunately, there's no spell check or anything, so you may have to pay more attention but it is still preferable I think.
The basic problem seems to be that the mytouch simply doesn't have the processing capability to run close to smoothly with all the advertised features, and we have to selectively disable options to try to get a usable product. It's a shame since android itself is quite nice.
I suppose another solution would be to go into the source for one of the keyboard packages and see if it could be made more efficient, but that may be pointless as soon as better hardware comes out.