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TouchFlo implementation on Mogul

Given that I believe the hardware as far as the touchscreen itself goes, are there any plans to try and migrate the TouchFlo / TouchFlo II ROM or application layer over so it'll work with the Mogul?
I love the Touch Flo's inteface, but there's no way I would ever give up my full keyboard.

You can find the touchflo application at this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334965&highlight=pcm+keyboard
Make sure to download a4, this is the most recent release. Also, read the entire first post before installation. I have the HTC 6800 (mogul) from sprint and I successfully installed this software this morning.

I have also installed A4 on my mogul. It is running great! I modified the config file a tiny to give a longer delay and to add SSContact.

Where is my cube?!!!
I can get the touch scrolling to work but still cannot figure out the cube. I can access the audio manager and the home screen (with tabs) but do not see any of the other full screen touch menus or animations.
I have installed the following files:
FTouchFlo_a4.CAB
HomePlugin WM6.cab
HTC_Audio_Manager.cab
HTC_Audio_Manager_Today_Plugin.cab
JT ButtonFlo.cab
Touch Flo (Alpha).cab
Touch Settings v1.22.CAB
I changed the registry key so that audio manager is the music player and also deleted the bio.lnk and mediahub.lnk from the windows/startup. I even went as far as to copy .brn files to make sure they were there. Even Touch settings is working fine.. BUT any time I slide LR or click the button I get the stupid black screen. (WTF, it is killing me!)
Has anyone figured this out on Sprint Mogul???

I didn't try too hard on the cube because I couldn't get the gestures to work. Maybe this is something that will be improved in later versions.

jpshook said:
I can get the touch scrolling to work but still cannot figure out the cube. I can access the audio manager and the home screen (with tabs) but do not see any of the other full screen touch menus or animations.
I have installed the following files:
FTouchFlo_a4.CAB
HomePlugin WM6.cab
HTC_Audio_Manager.cab
HTC_Audio_Manager_Today_Plugin.cab
JT ButtonFlo.cab
Touch Flo (Alpha).cab
Touch Settings v1.22.CAB
I changed the registry key so that audio manager is the music player and also deleted the bio.lnk and mediahub.lnk from the windows/startup. I even went as far as to copy .brn files to make sure they were there. Even Touch settings is working fine.. BUT any time I slide LR or click the button I get the stupid black screen. (WTF, it is killing me!)
Has anyone figured this out on Sprint Mogul???
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Well this Flash version of the Touchflo 3D Cube it seems to work really well so far on my mogul, like I said it's not the real cube but it's really neat just the same.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328010&highlight=ByKa+Cube+Launcher

Yeah, Byka's Flash version is cool, but it uses lots of system resources and just isn't quite the same.
Someone having the black screen issue has to have found a fix by now?

I've tried the BYKA cube but it jsut looks tacky. It works great but I guess I just have a problem with the icons and the background. Slither is working on a cub which looks exaclty like the TOUCHCUBe but it still has a way, although he's working very diligently. I would love to see the original cube, hopefully some cab extracted in combination with the touchfloa4. That would be ideal.

I tried it yesterday and was not impressed. So I installed SPB Pocketplus V.4 which also has "touch" features and works much better to be honest...

this is from my post in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333513
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I got this working on my mogul (close to barebones w/o ext_rom) seemingly perfectly... I did it on a fresh hard hard reset because of some conflicting software and my remove programs list being blank (this is not related to anything with touchflo btw... so don't worry)... I mapped touchflo.exe (on Ftouchflo) to left-right(to make cube both initialize and rotate with my finger dragging left right) and it works like a charm! I also mapped up-down to efrost's minimize program(efrostminimize.exe) that I got from Slither's cube, this brings me back to the Today screen. Not sure what the "ns.exe" is for in your config files but it seems to be working fine for me so far following the instructions. I'm thinking with the mogul black screens there must be a conflicting software involved.
I only have:
HTC plugins + Audio/Comm Manager
Total Commander
TCPMP+FlashVideo
PHM_Reg
Memmaid
Palm Msging
Oxios
Slide 2 Unlock 2 0.53
Ftouchflo alpha 4
Adobe Flashlite 2.1
Edit: Be careful how fast you retry using finger swipes upon the initial initialization (from closed) as it will run two instances if the touchflo did not fully initialize yet. (they both load though... phew* still no black screen)
Edit 2: Remember, if you map left-right and use Slide 2 Unlock 2(S2U2), to exclude s2u2.exe in the Ftouchflo config.
will post if black screen comes up in the future

I w as going to try this after midterms, how is it working? Is it pretty awesome? Is it worth it? does it bogg down your system? Are you afraid of installing other apps for fear of it "blacking out"? I'm very interested in the cube but it seems out of reach right now because of the bugs.
wandrerx said:
this is from my post in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333513
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I got this working on my mogul (close to barebones w/o ext_rom) seemingly perfectly... I did it on a fresh hard hard reset because of some conflicting software and my remove programs list being blank (this is not related to anything with touchflo btw... so don't worry)... I mapped touchflo.exe (on Ftouchflo) to left-right(to make cube both initialize and rotate with my finger dragging left right) and it works like a charm! I also mapped up-down to efrost's minimize program(efrostminimize.exe) that I got from Slither's cube, this brings me back to the Today screen. Not sure what the "ns.exe" is for in your config files but it seems to be working fine for me so far following the instructions. I'm thinking with the mogul black screens there must be a conflicting software involved.
I only have:
HTC plugins + Audio/Comm Manager
Total Commander
TCPMP+FlashVideo
PHM_Reg
Memmaid
Palm Msging
Oxios
Slide 2 Unlock 2 0.53
Ftouchflo alpha 4
Adobe Flashlite 2.1
Edit: Be careful how fast you retry using finger swipes upon the initial initialization (from closed) as it will run two instances if the touchflo did not fully initialize yet. (they both load though... phew* still no black screen)
Edit 2: Remember, if you map left-right and use Slide 2 Unlock 2(S2U2), to exclude s2u2.exe in the Ftouchflo config.
will post if black screen comes up in the future
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it works fine... no real big load on system resources (it was designed for a slower processor actually). No, I'm not really afraid of installing other programs. I was just stating that it's obvious that all those people complaining about black screens have something that conflicts with the cube somehow (or they didn't install according to instructions). Most likely something that runs in the background...

wandrerx, how do you actually get the cube? What application does it get installed with?
Can you send links to the exact apps you are running that are minimum requirements for this to work?

The original detailed instructions (by mikewtw) and files are in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333513
This is really just a summary of instructions and issues since it's getting messy there...
You need all the files from the original instructions:
TouchFlo.zip
AL_xx_Touch.zip
Touch Settings v1.22.CAB
Installation:
Prereq (To be installed first...):
HTC Home Plugin - I used the one from here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319308
HTC Audio Mgr - I got it from the touchflo.zip
HTC Audio Plugin - I got it from the touchflo.zip
Installation Process
1)Install "Touch Flo (Alpha).cab"
2)Install "JT Buttonflo.cab" (This is needed because it causes a script to run at startup which makes it actually work)
3)Install "Touch Settings v1.22.cab"
4)Delete "Mediahubmini.lnk" from "\windows\startup"
5)Unzip all of the files from "AL_xx_Touch.zip" to "\touch" (this step may not be needed but it was mentioned in the original post and I did it anyways)
6)Copy those "AL_xx_Touch.zip" files into "\windows"
7)Now might be a good time for a soft reset
8)Run "Touch Settings" from programs once but do not touch anything just yet... click on save option at the bottom" (this step apparently saves the icons you just installed so they'll appear... I think)
9)Soft reset
Touchflo is now installed you can either:
A) Map it to a button thus making it buttonflo
B) Install Ftouchflo Alpha 4 and use the touch screen to launch and rotate left to right (one way only currently)
If you decide to use Ftouchflo Alpha 4 I've enclosed:
"FTouchfloConfig.txt" - To be copied into "\Program Files\Ftouchflo_a4"...this also makes it compatible with s2u2
"efrostminimize.exe" (by efrost duh!) - To be copied into "\windows"
FTouchflo usage:
Using my config you can bring up the cube by swiping down-to-up (like the real one) or you can do the same going left to right. You can also minimize the cube by swiping up-to-down(via efrostminimize.exe)
Notes:
1)Upon initial run from either being closed or soft reset, try not to swipe it activated too much otherwise it will open twice. Once started swipe all you want. Of course you could just activate touchflo another way first.
2)Installing Touchflo alpha takes away HTC Home contacts
3)This does not seem to be a killable app via "memory"
4)I'm trying to figure out whether I can make some script to make it run smoother
5)Audio Mngr seems to be the only resource killer as it also loads into the cube
5)Yes it only goes one direction, this was a modified touchflo designed to work with buttons. As I said, this is the one we have to use till a cooked rom with the cube comes out.
6)This does not run on initial boot, you've got to either run it from Ftouchflo or "touch flo" in programs
7)If you run "Touch flo" without button mapped or "Ftouchflo"(configured for it) it will stay on the first screen
8)Can also be minimized by using the "red hangup button" (buttonflo-method as opposed to using my config for Ftouchflo)
9)Using HTC Home Plugin Customizer requires a soft-reset because it disables the Home Plugin temporarily
7)Icons not installed correctly is one very big cause of black screen
8)Conflicting programs may also be a reason for black screen as I did this all on a hard reset
Ftouchflo Alpha4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334965

Followed these steps exactly. 3 attempts, 3 blackscreens. 0 fun. Guess we'll just have to wait for a rom...

jbmoneys said:
Followed these steps exactly. 3 attempts, 3 blackscreens. 0 fun. Guess we'll just have to wait for a rom...
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thats pretty humorous.

Please Help Me Understand!!
Ive installed the touchflo a4, that's the most recent one. but what is touch flo alpha, does it go with the touch flo app I installed? what is the cube, was I suppose to install all three together? right now the app works fine but when im scrolling on the net it accelerates out of control. how do I slow it down? Please respond..

Ncruze said:
Ive installed the touchflo a4, that's the most recent one. but what is touch flo alpha, does it go with the touch flo app I installed? what is the cube, was I suppose to install all three together? right now the app works fine but when im scrolling on the net it accelerates out of control. how do I slow it down? Please respond..
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dont get the a4 get touchflow v1.3 from the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143
if you want a cube, I highly recommend slithers cube.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336234
I have been using both of these programs and they work together flawlessly on the Mogul

HTC HOME vs. the Cube
For anyone who has tried both.
I am currently running the HTC Home on mine and it works very well. Power consumption is normal. Good quick response. No complaints overall.
However, I am somewhat intrigued by the Cube and have been contemplating trying it out.
How is the CPU/Power consumption. Responsiveness. Stability? Thanks for your thoughts in advance.
Michael

Stability
I have tried both the Home plugin and the cube. If youuse the home plugin, do a search for the six tab "fixed" kaiser plugin. Fixes some memory leaks and has more functionality. The Cube here is very unstable and not too quick. I had to hard reset to get it to work, and it will not work with some other apps installed. For me, it would not work with SPB Pocket Plus. I would recommend getting the cube Slither has in development. It runs on flash, is quick, and does not seem to have compatibility issues.

6/15/09 "Zoom Status" and "task manager" from new Acer Roms (cabs now available)

6/15/09 "Zoom Status" and "task manager" from new Acer Roms (cabs now available)
edit: CAB not available at post #8..thanks man
the only thing that cought my attention from the acer software is the "zoom status". see it in action in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2Kv0MZfoZI&feature=channel_page 6:30 - 7:00
i like it better than the new notification center of tf3d 2
hope someone can port it

I do like that, especially the close button.

that shouldn't be too hard to get on vga devices.. right?

the device in the video has wvga screen(save horizantal resolution as the normal vga device. i think it will port very easily to vga devices

any new acer phones roms floating around so we can extract the packages of this

THE GRIZZ said:
any new acer phones roms floating around so we can extract the packages of this
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check out
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/e-ten-acer-support/20674-extracted-cabs-latest-acer-m900-rom.html

Yeah. And the taskmanager is quite nice too

Here is the Cab - I loaded it on my Titan (QVGA) and it installed without a problem but won't run. There is a QVGA icon pack in the install directory and it creates a shortcut in the startmenu. When I click on the shortcut an Info box pops up that says (Can't Start Zoom Status Please Check Zoom Status is Enabled). I don't see any obvious way to enable it after looking in the install directory and the windows directory. Have soft reset after install, still no luck.
By the way, it doesn't show up in the remove programs directory so once you've installed it you have to manually remove...
I'm running WM 6.5 27128 so perhaps this only works on 6.1.

I installed it on an X1 running wm6.5 and got the same error message but you can get it to run if you disable the default today plugin in on wm6.5 and enable the Zoomstatus one.
guess it runs as a today plugin in on the Acer shell

I run it on custom asus WM 6.5.xxx502 ROM. I did the same as jbrummie but I couldn`t have both enabled - windows default and zoom status. Any solution ?

jbrummie said:
I installed it on an X1 running wm6.5 and got the same error message but you can get it to run if you disable the default today plugin in on wm6.5 and enable the Zoomstatus one.
guess it runs as a today plugin in on the Acer shell
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Yep - found the same thing. It runs and works on 6.5 but won't work at the same time Titanium is enabled....

i'm running energyROM and I can't seem to disable the topaz notification manager - can anyone see if it works with TF3D2?

Roflcopterrr said:
i'm running energyROM and I can't seem to disable the topaz notification manager - can anyone see if it works with TF3D2?
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Start>Utilities>Tweaks>Rhodium Tweaks>Enhanced Notifications Off

thanks
will test it

6.1 ROM , Qvga, Elfin.
Must shut down Tf2d in order for this to work.
The topaz notification system cant be shut down. So I only can see task manager.
Over.

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installed the task manager on my imate 9502 and all it done was enlarge the scrollbars on standard winmo applications so as only 2 icons are displayed per line..

Works fine on my xperia with wm6.1

installed on my i910 omnia, seems to wrk. although some buttons dont do anything when i press them on the zoomstatus. havent tried the taskmgr yet.
edit: i just soft reset, the task manager is there. works fine. looking at the install folder it seems skinnable. also it doesnt seem to give me accurate info since im on verizons network. the sig strength and battery works fine though. taskmanager also looks skinnable since all the image files are in the install folder. looks fun.

Here are some pics on a Fuze. I had to turn off TF3D. Also, some of the notifications don't work, like volume just brings me back to HTC's notifications so it's a loop. The other taskbar items work but require a press and hold. i'm using the updated Fuze ROM.

Zoom status works fine with Titanium (wm6.5) if you change registry value "Exclusive" to zero for Titanium plugin.
You should enable both plugins ("Windows Default"(Titanium) and ZoomStatus) in Today items settings.
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\"Windows Default"]
"Exclusive"=dword:00000000

need help with touchflo detatcher

im using tfdetacher 6.5 and the right softkey on the wm6.5 today screen says touchflo but when i goto touchflo, how do i set the right softkey to take me back to the 6.5 today screen?

In the tfdetacher config program. I believe it is in your start/programs by default.

its in my programs start menu but i click on it and it just takes me back to touchflo today screen, i wanna get my wm6.5 today screen

Try looking under settings, or a folder called system tools, or something like that. There should be a program called TFD Config somewhere in your Startmenu. You did install TFD and having it currently running right?

yes its installed and running but its real slow on switching over and sometimes the soft keys will start flashing and also i want to be able to use weatherpanel 2009 but cant seem to figure all this out. srry, im such a noob..lol

Dunno what to say man. It works flawlessly on my Vogue. Maybe you have too many programs running and are low on RAM. Sorry I don't have any other tips.

ok, what version of touchflo detatcher do you use on your vogue and also, could you post your screenshots of all the settings that i need to do to make it work and to make weatherpanel 2009 be incorarated in that as well. i do have 2nd today installed just havnt set it up yet

ok, i've set the softkeys correctly in tfconfig and they still dont respond. is there something i need to do to the registry to get tfdetacher to work right on my vogue using NFSFAN'S V12 6.5 ROM

ok, i fixed my issue except im not using tfdetacher, instead i downloaded and installed Manila Control v1.0, went to config and selected manila 2d which fixed the right softkey on my touchflo today screen but not on the 6.5 side so i then got into my registry and changed these variables:
1. goto HKLM\Software\Microsoft\CHome\CClock
2.change SK2TEXT from "Set" to "TF2D." (no quote)
3.change SK2URL from ":MSCLOCK;AppRunToHandleNotification" to ":M2D_Ctrl" (no quote)
4. do a soft reset and everything works great
now all i need to do is figure out how to incorporate Weatherpanel 2009 in this equation, any suggestions would be appreciated.

(REALLY) close apps on wm 6.5.x with stock X-button?

hello! i hope i'm the first who opened a thread about this:
i don't want to use a taskmanager at top right because there already exists a X-button at the bottom right. but when i use this button, the tasks just run in background and won't close completely... my question is now:
is there any taskmanager for wm 6.5.x which integrates in the bottom taskbar to fully close tasks with the stock X-button? or is there maybe a tweak like bsb where i can change this setting?
thx in advance!

fruchtfliege said:
hello! i hope i'm the first who opened a thread about this:
i don't want to use a taskmanager at top right because there already exists a X-button at the bottom right. but when i use this button, the tasks just run in background and won't close completely... my question is now:
is there any taskmanager for wm 6.5.x which integrates in the bottom taskbar to fully close tasks with the stock X-button? or is there maybe a tweak like bsb where i can change this setting?
thx in advance!
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AMeBa can do this, and more. (make sure you install all three cabs that are attached to the first post)
Happy closing

In HTC Task Manager (V. 2.1 Build 1918.3631), there is the option of "Enable the"X" button to end running programs" either by tapping "X" or tapping + holding "X". Not sure whether this works on ALL programs though.

byronlee said:
In HTC Task Manager (V. 2.1 Build 1918.3631), there is the option of "Enable the"X" button to end running programs" either by tapping "X" or tapping + holding "X". Not sure whether this works on ALL programs though.
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Unfortunately that task manager doesn't run on windows mobile 6.5.x (bottom-bar WM) .
This one does. It doesn't close application by tapping on the x button, but by tap-and-hold the clock in the new windows mobile version.

XTask DO the job !!!
I'm using Xtask, especially XHook.exe, to close all my apps, and it works like a charm.
No installation, it's only an exe, run as service after each reset, do no eat memory.
I've remapped my Close/OK button to XHook.exe (with AEButtonPlus), and now I REALLY close apps.

thank you for your replies. i already discovered xtask and it works fine!

Maybe, it's better set to 'OK Key' (in AE Button plus) command 'Close active application'

I like everything about this ROM and plan to upgrade from the Sept 3rd to Oct 3rd this weekend.
I would like to know about the zoombar and scrolling thru messages from the main screen.
On other builds, I could do this if i was at msg 15, zoombar back to 1 real quick instead of flick flick flick.
Can you maybe fix this and cook into your final copy.
I dont know how many people dont use ms voice command as its one of the first to load for my bt headset and hearing messaging in my ear.
Maybe the concensus could be to cook or not cook it in.
Everything else works beautiful compared to other ROM's i have tried and I also commend you on your work.
I will be changing the battery icon myself as its very hard to read the percentage at a glance.
Thank you for all you do.

andersondb1 said:
I like everything about this ROM and plan to upgrade from the Sept 3rd to Oct 3rd this weekend.
I would like to know about the zoombar and scrolling thru messages from the main screen.
On other builds, I could do this if i was at msg 15, zoombar back to 1 real quick instead of flick flick flick.
Can you maybe fix this and cook into your final copy.
I dont know how many people dont use ms voice command as its one of the first to load for my bt headset and hearing messaging in my ear.
Maybe the concensus could be to cook or not cook it in.
Everything else works beautiful compared to other ROM's i have tried and I also commend you on your work.
I will be changing the battery icon myself as its very hard to read the percentage at a glance.
Thank you for all you do.
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huh?
well i see you wrote thank you, so you're welcome

ASCIIker said:
huh?
well i see you wrote thank you, so you're welcome
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If you could read, you would see that I am asking about the zoombar function to be fixed.
Also I would like to use VLingo but it requires a dedicated button to set during configuration and the PPT is not there under the settings/personal/buttons.
I mapped the button using the Ameba settings to Voice command but Vlingo still doesnt work.

How to enable "Close Programs on X" via registry

Hello everyone,
can someone tell me that by clicking "X" in an app my HD2 will finally close programs and will not keep them running in the background...!?
In my ROM (2013/6.5.3) there is no feature in the settings area as in former times to enable or disable it. Is there any registry hack?
Thx in advance.

Nobody any clue??

Install Dutty's task manager and it will add that option to your control panel.

Another option is WKTask. It hasn't been updated for a long time and looks like the author has lost interest, but it works fine with 6.5 and even 6.5.3. Just disable the skin (which draws its own OK or X button on the task bar) - you will not loose any functionality.

Isn't there any registry solution?
Dutty's Task Manager didn't as it is not compatible with 6.5.x. The setting was added but didn't affect anything...

Try the TouchX task manager. Both Dutty's or that have always worked for me, so you may still have the 6.5.5 compatibility issue, but I've never heard of that before.

For windows mobile 6.5.x try this forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618300" its works great

In fact I do not want a task manager. I just want to close programs and not minimize them. There must some kind of registry hack for that...

Niker84 said:
In fact I do not want a task manager. I just want to close programs and not minimize them. There must some kind of registry hack for that...
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No! There is none. You need a programm that runs in background/as a process which monitors the x-button and closes programms. Its just like that.
BTW. WKTask and Opera 10 dont work together. Try installing WKTask and got to landscape in Opera10. The device will crash. Can anybody please confirm this as i still love WKTask (Im on RTTs RTMi 5 ROM with 6.5.3 and Sense 2013) --> Thanks guys

I want something like this too. I came from an iPhone, so excuse my noobness but when you hit the HOME key it closes a program out, not run in the background. I want to be able to hit 'X' at the top and it closes the program out, not run in the background. I just cant believe nobody has made a run around, a .cab or reg edit for this. I hate having a slow HD2 because the proccess keep piling up.

Raadius said:
I want something like this too. I came from an iPhone, so excuse my noobness but when you hit the HOME key it closes a program out, not run in the background. I want to be able to hit 'X' at the top and it closes the program out, not run in the background. I just cant believe nobody has made a run around, a .cab or reg edit for this. I hate having a slow HD2 because the proccess keep piling up.
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I never said there is no solution. Theres just no way via the registry. You will need one of the millions of taskmanagers out there. I recommend Ameba (close via tapping x, minimize via holding x) in combination with ArkSwitch (complete Taskmanager, can be opened via tapping left part of the taskbar or long press sendkey). The best and most stable solution in my opinion.
Greets

Forget the iphone they invent now the multitasking....
Get one task manager and a ram cleaner(optional) and go with multitasking!!!!
You will get used of it

Take a look at Wisbar: great program, great developer and a excelant support

Hi,
i have got a contrary problem.
My running programs do not stay in the Backround.
Mostly, if i push the home or back-key, my HD2 closes the actual program. The program is in backround for a short time and then it closes.
I can see it, i have WKTask running. It is the same, if i have uninstalled WKTask, so this taskmanager is not the cause.
I have this problem mostly, not always but i can´t see the cause.
What is wrong with my HD2?