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TouchFlo implementation on Mogul

Given that I believe the hardware as far as the touchscreen itself goes, are there any plans to try and migrate the TouchFlo / TouchFlo II ROM or application layer over so it'll work with the Mogul?
I love the Touch Flo's inteface, but there's no way I would ever give up my full keyboard.

You can find the touchflo application at this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334965&highlight=pcm+keyboard
Make sure to download a4, this is the most recent release. Also, read the entire first post before installation. I have the HTC 6800 (mogul) from sprint and I successfully installed this software this morning.

I have also installed A4 on my mogul. It is running great! I modified the config file a tiny to give a longer delay and to add SSContact.

Where is my cube?!!!
I can get the touch scrolling to work but still cannot figure out the cube. I can access the audio manager and the home screen (with tabs) but do not see any of the other full screen touch menus or animations.
I have installed the following files:
FTouchFlo_a4.CAB
HomePlugin WM6.cab
HTC_Audio_Manager.cab
HTC_Audio_Manager_Today_Plugin.cab
JT ButtonFlo.cab
Touch Flo (Alpha).cab
Touch Settings v1.22.CAB
I changed the registry key so that audio manager is the music player and also deleted the bio.lnk and mediahub.lnk from the windows/startup. I even went as far as to copy .brn files to make sure they were there. Even Touch settings is working fine.. BUT any time I slide LR or click the button I get the stupid black screen. (WTF, it is killing me!)
Has anyone figured this out on Sprint Mogul???

I didn't try too hard on the cube because I couldn't get the gestures to work. Maybe this is something that will be improved in later versions.

jpshook said:
I can get the touch scrolling to work but still cannot figure out the cube. I can access the audio manager and the home screen (with tabs) but do not see any of the other full screen touch menus or animations.
I have installed the following files:
FTouchFlo_a4.CAB
HomePlugin WM6.cab
HTC_Audio_Manager.cab
HTC_Audio_Manager_Today_Plugin.cab
JT ButtonFlo.cab
Touch Flo (Alpha).cab
Touch Settings v1.22.CAB
I changed the registry key so that audio manager is the music player and also deleted the bio.lnk and mediahub.lnk from the windows/startup. I even went as far as to copy .brn files to make sure they were there. Even Touch settings is working fine.. BUT any time I slide LR or click the button I get the stupid black screen. (WTF, it is killing me!)
Has anyone figured this out on Sprint Mogul???
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Well this Flash version of the Touchflo 3D Cube it seems to work really well so far on my mogul, like I said it's not the real cube but it's really neat just the same.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328010&highlight=ByKa+Cube+Launcher

Yeah, Byka's Flash version is cool, but it uses lots of system resources and just isn't quite the same.
Someone having the black screen issue has to have found a fix by now?

I've tried the BYKA cube but it jsut looks tacky. It works great but I guess I just have a problem with the icons and the background. Slither is working on a cub which looks exaclty like the TOUCHCUBe but it still has a way, although he's working very diligently. I would love to see the original cube, hopefully some cab extracted in combination with the touchfloa4. That would be ideal.

I tried it yesterday and was not impressed. So I installed SPB Pocketplus V.4 which also has "touch" features and works much better to be honest...

this is from my post in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333513
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I got this working on my mogul (close to barebones w/o ext_rom) seemingly perfectly... I did it on a fresh hard hard reset because of some conflicting software and my remove programs list being blank (this is not related to anything with touchflo btw... so don't worry)... I mapped touchflo.exe (on Ftouchflo) to left-right(to make cube both initialize and rotate with my finger dragging left right) and it works like a charm! I also mapped up-down to efrost's minimize program(efrostminimize.exe) that I got from Slither's cube, this brings me back to the Today screen. Not sure what the "ns.exe" is for in your config files but it seems to be working fine for me so far following the instructions. I'm thinking with the mogul black screens there must be a conflicting software involved.
I only have:
HTC plugins + Audio/Comm Manager
Total Commander
TCPMP+FlashVideo
PHM_Reg
Memmaid
Palm Msging
Oxios
Slide 2 Unlock 2 0.53
Ftouchflo alpha 4
Adobe Flashlite 2.1
Edit: Be careful how fast you retry using finger swipes upon the initial initialization (from closed) as it will run two instances if the touchflo did not fully initialize yet. (they both load though... phew* still no black screen)
Edit 2: Remember, if you map left-right and use Slide 2 Unlock 2(S2U2), to exclude s2u2.exe in the Ftouchflo config.
will post if black screen comes up in the future

I w as going to try this after midterms, how is it working? Is it pretty awesome? Is it worth it? does it bogg down your system? Are you afraid of installing other apps for fear of it "blacking out"? I'm very interested in the cube but it seems out of reach right now because of the bugs.
wandrerx said:
this is from my post in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333513
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I got this working on my mogul (close to barebones w/o ext_rom) seemingly perfectly... I did it on a fresh hard hard reset because of some conflicting software and my remove programs list being blank (this is not related to anything with touchflo btw... so don't worry)... I mapped touchflo.exe (on Ftouchflo) to left-right(to make cube both initialize and rotate with my finger dragging left right) and it works like a charm! I also mapped up-down to efrost's minimize program(efrostminimize.exe) that I got from Slither's cube, this brings me back to the Today screen. Not sure what the "ns.exe" is for in your config files but it seems to be working fine for me so far following the instructions. I'm thinking with the mogul black screens there must be a conflicting software involved.
I only have:
HTC plugins + Audio/Comm Manager
Total Commander
TCPMP+FlashVideo
PHM_Reg
Memmaid
Palm Msging
Oxios
Slide 2 Unlock 2 0.53
Ftouchflo alpha 4
Adobe Flashlite 2.1
Edit: Be careful how fast you retry using finger swipes upon the initial initialization (from closed) as it will run two instances if the touchflo did not fully initialize yet. (they both load though... phew* still no black screen)
Edit 2: Remember, if you map left-right and use Slide 2 Unlock 2(S2U2), to exclude s2u2.exe in the Ftouchflo config.
will post if black screen comes up in the future
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it works fine... no real big load on system resources (it was designed for a slower processor actually). No, I'm not really afraid of installing other programs. I was just stating that it's obvious that all those people complaining about black screens have something that conflicts with the cube somehow (or they didn't install according to instructions). Most likely something that runs in the background...

wandrerx, how do you actually get the cube? What application does it get installed with?
Can you send links to the exact apps you are running that are minimum requirements for this to work?

The original detailed instructions (by mikewtw) and files are in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333513
This is really just a summary of instructions and issues since it's getting messy there...
You need all the files from the original instructions:
TouchFlo.zip
AL_xx_Touch.zip
Touch Settings v1.22.CAB
Installation:
Prereq (To be installed first...):
HTC Home Plugin - I used the one from here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319308
HTC Audio Mgr - I got it from the touchflo.zip
HTC Audio Plugin - I got it from the touchflo.zip
Installation Process
1)Install "Touch Flo (Alpha).cab"
2)Install "JT Buttonflo.cab" (This is needed because it causes a script to run at startup which makes it actually work)
3)Install "Touch Settings v1.22.cab"
4)Delete "Mediahubmini.lnk" from "\windows\startup"
5)Unzip all of the files from "AL_xx_Touch.zip" to "\touch" (this step may not be needed but it was mentioned in the original post and I did it anyways)
6)Copy those "AL_xx_Touch.zip" files into "\windows"
7)Now might be a good time for a soft reset
8)Run "Touch Settings" from programs once but do not touch anything just yet... click on save option at the bottom" (this step apparently saves the icons you just installed so they'll appear... I think)
9)Soft reset
Touchflo is now installed you can either:
A) Map it to a button thus making it buttonflo
B) Install Ftouchflo Alpha 4 and use the touch screen to launch and rotate left to right (one way only currently)
If you decide to use Ftouchflo Alpha 4 I've enclosed:
"FTouchfloConfig.txt" - To be copied into "\Program Files\Ftouchflo_a4"...this also makes it compatible with s2u2
"efrostminimize.exe" (by efrost duh!) - To be copied into "\windows"
FTouchflo usage:
Using my config you can bring up the cube by swiping down-to-up (like the real one) or you can do the same going left to right. You can also minimize the cube by swiping up-to-down(via efrostminimize.exe)
Notes:
1)Upon initial run from either being closed or soft reset, try not to swipe it activated too much otherwise it will open twice. Once started swipe all you want. Of course you could just activate touchflo another way first.
2)Installing Touchflo alpha takes away HTC Home contacts
3)This does not seem to be a killable app via "memory"
4)I'm trying to figure out whether I can make some script to make it run smoother
5)Audio Mngr seems to be the only resource killer as it also loads into the cube
5)Yes it only goes one direction, this was a modified touchflo designed to work with buttons. As I said, this is the one we have to use till a cooked rom with the cube comes out.
6)This does not run on initial boot, you've got to either run it from Ftouchflo or "touch flo" in programs
7)If you run "Touch flo" without button mapped or "Ftouchflo"(configured for it) it will stay on the first screen
8)Can also be minimized by using the "red hangup button" (buttonflo-method as opposed to using my config for Ftouchflo)
9)Using HTC Home Plugin Customizer requires a soft-reset because it disables the Home Plugin temporarily
7)Icons not installed correctly is one very big cause of black screen
8)Conflicting programs may also be a reason for black screen as I did this all on a hard reset
Ftouchflo Alpha4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334965

Followed these steps exactly. 3 attempts, 3 blackscreens. 0 fun. Guess we'll just have to wait for a rom...

jbmoneys said:
Followed these steps exactly. 3 attempts, 3 blackscreens. 0 fun. Guess we'll just have to wait for a rom...
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thats pretty humorous.

Please Help Me Understand!!
Ive installed the touchflo a4, that's the most recent one. but what is touch flo alpha, does it go with the touch flo app I installed? what is the cube, was I suppose to install all three together? right now the app works fine but when im scrolling on the net it accelerates out of control. how do I slow it down? Please respond..

Ncruze said:
Ive installed the touchflo a4, that's the most recent one. but what is touch flo alpha, does it go with the touch flo app I installed? what is the cube, was I suppose to install all three together? right now the app works fine but when im scrolling on the net it accelerates out of control. how do I slow it down? Please respond..
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dont get the a4 get touchflow v1.3 from the link below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143
if you want a cube, I highly recommend slithers cube.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336234
I have been using both of these programs and they work together flawlessly on the Mogul

HTC HOME vs. the Cube
For anyone who has tried both.
I am currently running the HTC Home on mine and it works very well. Power consumption is normal. Good quick response. No complaints overall.
However, I am somewhat intrigued by the Cube and have been contemplating trying it out.
How is the CPU/Power consumption. Responsiveness. Stability? Thanks for your thoughts in advance.
Michael

Stability
I have tried both the Home plugin and the cube. If youuse the home plugin, do a search for the six tab "fixed" kaiser plugin. Fixes some memory leaks and has more functionality. The Cube here is very unstable and not too quick. I had to hard reset to get it to work, and it will not work with some other apps installed. For me, it would not work with SPB Pocket Plus. I would recommend getting the cube Slither has in development. It runs on flash, is quick, and does not seem to have compatibility issues.

TouchFlo Question and others

Hi,
I've installed Touch Flo 2D Manila2D_1.00_1819.2926-xplode.CAB on top of Sundreams ROM.
This ROM rocks and it very fast on my BA with apps installed. OCed the BA using XCPUScalar.
However I've got a problem with the adding Programs shortcuts in TouchFlo (launcher tab). After selecting the program, the form closes and no program is added to the shortcut. The + remains a +. Anyone experienced this problem?. Is there a way to add the shortcuts manually in a configuration file?.
Also where can I configure TouchFlo settings?
Also the front screen calendar is too basic for my taste. I used SPB diary. How can I use a more advanced calendar with TouchFlo (shows 5 days or more)?.
Thanks to all ROM contributors. Any insights appreciated.

Customize it using this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427392
make sure you installed all the Xplode CABS before the manila to have it working
This is from my own experience I am sure some experts can help more.

Update
Thanks for the reply.
I have installed the following cabs:
HTCAlbum-2.5QVGA.cab
Aku1.4 Sounds.cab
Aku1.4 welcomehead.cab
HTC htcStartMenu.cab
HTC Enchansements.cab
HTC TaskManager 2.1.34837.5
HTCFlashLite.cab
HTC AudioManager.cab
Touch Flo 2D Manila2D_1.00_1819.2926-xplode.CAB
To which cabs are you actually refering to?. Am I missing something?.
Well as regards to the launcher, I have added the applications manually via registry
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila2D\Launcher, however the application do not run when clicked on. Icons appear as a 'blank icon' rather than '+'
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=46966
Any ideas?

As far as the calendar, no one seems to have been able to use a different calendar as of yet. Having said that, there is one alternative that I am using right now (with which I am pretty happy). There is a program in the Dev and Hacking section that is called Manila Control
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447504&highlight=manila+control
This will allow you to switch back and forth between Manila and Today (just set up an Up-Down gesture with FTouchFlo Config). You can then put any Today plugin that you want (ie SPB Calendar) and just switch to it when you need to see your calendar. Hope this helps you on that end.
Now, as far as the cabs, you should install the following cabs:
HTC_Enchansements.cab
HTC AudioManager_2.0_1819.1228.cab
GoogleMaps_compressed.cab
HTC_Task_Manager_2.1_34837.5.cab
HTC_Album2.0_1818.3032.cab
Touch Flo 2D Manila2D_1.00_1819.2926-xplode.CAB
FSP, DShow, WMP, Youtube, Video Fixes.cab
These are the ones that I have on my device and I have not had any issues with speed or anything like that. Hope this helps!

Thanks for feedback. I have managed to find a workaround via registry. I did'nt add the "uptime" key before. Once added the icons are functional and show up.

6/15/09 "Zoom Status" and "task manager" from new Acer Roms (cabs now available)

6/15/09 "Zoom Status" and "task manager" from new Acer Roms (cabs now available)
edit: CAB not available at post #8..thanks man
the only thing that cought my attention from the acer software is the "zoom status". see it in action in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2Kv0MZfoZI&feature=channel_page 6:30 - 7:00
i like it better than the new notification center of tf3d 2
hope someone can port it

I do like that, especially the close button.

that shouldn't be too hard to get on vga devices.. right?

the device in the video has wvga screen(save horizantal resolution as the normal vga device. i think it will port very easily to vga devices

any new acer phones roms floating around so we can extract the packages of this

THE GRIZZ said:
any new acer phones roms floating around so we can extract the packages of this
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check out
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/e-ten-acer-support/20674-extracted-cabs-latest-acer-m900-rom.html

Yeah. And the taskmanager is quite nice too

Here is the Cab - I loaded it on my Titan (QVGA) and it installed without a problem but won't run. There is a QVGA icon pack in the install directory and it creates a shortcut in the startmenu. When I click on the shortcut an Info box pops up that says (Can't Start Zoom Status Please Check Zoom Status is Enabled). I don't see any obvious way to enable it after looking in the install directory and the windows directory. Have soft reset after install, still no luck.
By the way, it doesn't show up in the remove programs directory so once you've installed it you have to manually remove...
I'm running WM 6.5 27128 so perhaps this only works on 6.1.

I installed it on an X1 running wm6.5 and got the same error message but you can get it to run if you disable the default today plugin in on wm6.5 and enable the Zoomstatus one.
guess it runs as a today plugin in on the Acer shell

I run it on custom asus WM 6.5.xxx502 ROM. I did the same as jbrummie but I couldn`t have both enabled - windows default and zoom status. Any solution ?

jbrummie said:
I installed it on an X1 running wm6.5 and got the same error message but you can get it to run if you disable the default today plugin in on wm6.5 and enable the Zoomstatus one.
guess it runs as a today plugin in on the Acer shell
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Yep - found the same thing. It runs and works on 6.5 but won't work at the same time Titanium is enabled....

i'm running energyROM and I can't seem to disable the topaz notification manager - can anyone see if it works with TF3D2?

Roflcopterrr said:
i'm running energyROM and I can't seem to disable the topaz notification manager - can anyone see if it works with TF3D2?
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Start>Utilities>Tweaks>Rhodium Tweaks>Enhanced Notifications Off

thanks
will test it

6.1 ROM , Qvga, Elfin.
Must shut down Tf2d in order for this to work.
The topaz notification system cant be shut down. So I only can see task manager.
Over.

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installed the task manager on my imate 9502 and all it done was enlarge the scrollbars on standard winmo applications so as only 2 icons are displayed per line..

Works fine on my xperia with wm6.1

installed on my i910 omnia, seems to wrk. although some buttons dont do anything when i press them on the zoomstatus. havent tried the taskmgr yet.
edit: i just soft reset, the task manager is there. works fine. looking at the install folder it seems skinnable. also it doesnt seem to give me accurate info since im on verizons network. the sig strength and battery works fine though. taskmanager also looks skinnable since all the image files are in the install folder. looks fun.

Here are some pics on a Fuze. I had to turn off TF3D. Also, some of the notifications don't work, like volume just brings me back to HTC's notifications so it's a loop. The other taskbar items work but require a press and hold. i'm using the updated Fuze ROM.

Zoom status works fine with Titanium (wm6.5) if you change registry value "Exclusive" to zero for Titanium plugin.
You should enable both plugins ("Windows Default"(Titanium) and ZoomStatus) in Today items settings.
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\"Windows Default"]
"Exclusive"=dword:00000000

Switch to the Windows 6.5 Start Menu

Anyone know how to switch back to the original windows 6.5 start menu? I want to give it a try with touch flo.

I also wouldn't mind being able to do this. I like TouchFlo, but I like the standard Start menu much much better.

Go to settings, all settings, today settings and change it there.

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Go to settings, all settings, today settings and change it there.
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No, we said we want to keep TouchFlo, but go back to the standard 6.5 start menu. Nothing in Today Settings would do that.

same here i also would like to have the classic apps page back for touch flow anyone know how to make this happen?

Touch Flo overrides the standard WM 6.5 interface, you have to select one or the other. Going in to the today settings and selecting Windows Default you can see that it forces to uncheck touch flo.

There could be a reg edit somewhere to disable it... Hopefuly

I am not sure if it works with this phone, but I allays use a cab that was released with the Manila 2.1 VGA ports that disables the HTC Start menu. I will be trying for myself when my phone arrives on Tuesday.

here you go....
verified to work on the imagio.

lafester said:
here you go....
verified to work on the imagio.
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You sir, are a GOD! This worked perfectly, except when I soft-reset, it started TouchFlo, but just displayed a blank today screen with my background until I hit the start button. But I never shut off my phone, so thanks, this is great!

LOL. i got this back when juicy was making his first manila 2.1 rom.
i think it is actually from xboxmod's original 2.1 port thread.
anyway it works great for me and doesn't cause any problems.

can we customized the touch flo menu? i want to remove the weather & map serach icon.

Switch to Win 6.5 start menu
Works great, thanks alot!!!!!

Sense 2.5 Official HTC ROM - Anyone know how to...

Hi guys
Been searching for ages now on the forum and on Google and haven't been able to find the solution to a couple of issues I'm having with Sense 2.5 on the official HTC ROM (which was flashed by HTC on repair of my TP2)
1 - the text messaging is useless (for me) in Sense 2.5. I prefer the original Windows mobile way of messaging - how do I get back to that? SMS doesn't appear in Outlook anymore???
2 - None of my methods that worked in the previous WM6.5 Sense 2.1 ROM for making the Start menu appear in 4 rows seems to work?
3 - Shapps Advanced Config seems to disable my settings? I can't get into Remove programs so can't uninstall? Need to Hard Reset?
If anyone can help with the above I'd be very grateful!
Thanks

Hello,
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614
3. Go to the Manila Settings-Tab. There is a program entry (I don't now how it calls in english ROMs). There you can unistall Software.

Hi ChatFix
Thanks for a quick reply!
I'll have a look at that link now
Unfortunately I didn't explain 3 properly - the settings tab in manilla is not accessible once I install Advanced Config, so there's no way of actually getting back to the Remove Applications icon to be able to uninstall it...

p.dixon0 said:
Hi ChatFix
Thanks for a quick reply!
I'll have a look at that link now
Unfortunately I didn't explain 3 properly - the settings tab in manilla is not accessible once I install Advanced Config, so there's no way of actually getting back to the Remove Applications icon to be able to uninstall it...
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1. I can use Windows Messaging instead of HTC messaging with no problems.
2. I do have this problem, but I believe there is a reg edit specific to 6.5 that my 6.5.5 one does not work on nor does any that were for Sense 2.1.
3. I think your installation of the ROM or Advanced Config is borked. I have no problems at all.

I have found this little tool. So you can disable Manila, uninstall your software and enable manila with the today-settings from windows mobile.

Hi guys!
Thanks for your replies, it's really appreciated
Nagrom - Did you use the link provided by ChatFox to enable use of the Windows Messaging Client rather than the HTC one?
Chatfix - what exactly does that file do? Does it disable the entire Manilla 'home' screen and display the standard Windows Today screen (or WM6.5 Titanium screen) or does it still display the normal Manilla 'home' screen but disable certain parts of the HTC 'wrapper' (e.g. notification bar)
Oh - after the last hard reset, Advanced Config appears to be working OK now, phew!
I'm teetering on the edge of reflashing the old Sense 2.1 ROM, but I really don't want to!

This file disables all Today-Plugins. (Manila 2.5 is still a Today-Plugin)