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O2 Xda Exec - review - first two parts now on Tekguru:
Part 1 hardware
Part 2 - Applications
Nice write up and review Tekguru Any idea on when the Exec would be available? Or is there anyway you can hook me up with a deal LOL, I hate the look of Imate or Qtek and can't wait to get my hands on the Exec
From the top part of the review:
Supplier: O2
Manufacturer: HTC
Product: Xda Exec
Colour: Black / Gunmetal Grey
Cost: From £399 with contract from 3rd October
Supplier Web Site: http://www.o2.co.uk/xda
Supplier Product Web Site: TBA
Manufacturers Page: http://www.htc.com.tw/
Does it comes with widcomm bt satck?
Will it launch in Asia? Any launch date for Asia?
nice article; thanks. the slip case reminds me of the time i was using a trium mondo ppc...that was like ages ago but the slip case is practically the same.
argh,
Just got this from O2 Asia,
Dear Ben,
Thank you for choosing O2!
With regards to your query below, O2 Asia will constantly look for newer
and better mobile device to be release to the public. The current model is
XdaIIs, XdaIImini and XphoneII. O2 Asia has not officially release any news
with regard to when any new model will be release and the actual releasing
date. User will be updated via O2 Asia official website (www.seeo2.com) once
any new model is ready to be release to the public. Kindly keep a look out
for it. Thank you.
Warmest Regards,
Ivy Neo
O2 Technical Support
Asia Pacific Region
For full listing of retail outlets and information on the latest products
information, please visit http://www.seeo2.com
Doesnt really say much hey!!!
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mm Like lot of people I was expecting this price http://x.msmobiles.com/portal/images/o2/xda-exec-4-big.jpg ( £229 max ) and not £399 (I even have the catalogue in front of me it's not a fake.. and asked several without answer during the chat
Second things that I tried to get the price spec through o2.co.uk/xda has advertised ( redirection to http://www.my-xda.com/ ) and no trace of the exec and http://shop.o2.co.uk/cgi-bin/o2uk/j...set.do?pageMode=null&manufacturer=o2&x=13&y=2 doesn't have any trace of the exec too.
I participate to the chat ( and been logout during the chat by the flash application - irc would have been better for that but it worked otherwise so.. ) ;
The software should have a signature but could be installed if forced. I guess that orange UK will give the price of the same device before 3rd of October.
And TG has well played the game because he got a HTC for free lucky you
And why did you tell that USB HOST was working the 02 guy has by several times said that it wasn't active and didn't even know from where the rumor is from ...
Few questions has been asked without answer like the quality of the graphic card and such.
I think the XDA exec seems to be really good but was expecting it cheaper ( wasn't expected to have a £35-40/months contract for 12 months too ) I might wait december to get an upgraded pack or similar + cheaper (hope soo)
hi lmf here from singapore...
quite a hype for the htc trinity here but still a question mark on when it will be released here in my country, just wanna enquire has it been released yet anywhere other than ebay? hehe...
the trinity black available http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=HTC _P3600, £449.95...
My good contact at HTC states today I will only be able to buy it in Asia from December, and it will not sport a GPS chip (what an ommission). Of course I would want the all white version, look more stylish and luxurious...at that price!
hmm december will b a good time, heard from my friends it will be available in singapore in Jan 2007, anticipating still...
white looks better than the black version n who knows, other colors might pop up
It should be available in the beginning of November in Denmark. I already pre-ordered the black version in September
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It should be available in the beginning of November in Denmark. I already pre-ordered the black version in September
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hmm how much did it cost u n where did u ordered from?
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hmm how much did it cost u n where did u ordered from?
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800$ (4,745 DKR) here - it cost 852$ (5,067 DKR) now since the price increased shortly after I ordered it. Fortunately I get it to the old price.
A few other dealers can be found here.
The P3300 is also avalable (for preorder) a couple of places - but it costs more than the P3600
BTW a new review is available here - poorly translated by Babelfish
helten2 said:
800$ (4,745 DKR) here - it cost 852$ (5,067 DKR) now since the price increased shortly after I ordered it. Fortunately I get it to the old price.
A few other dealers can be found here.
The P3300 is also avalable (for preorder) a couple of places - but it costs more than the P3600
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wow that is almost like 1300SGD, quite expected for such a nice device, i believe its almost the same price when the Magician was launched in Singapore quite some time ago... thanks pal, would hope to hear a review from u soon!!!
Amazon Germany has HTC P3600 on the list for around 500 Euro incl. shipping.
Yeah right, 519 euros now. Amazon also offers the...Tytn for pre-order (not out yet), for 619 euros. Hahaha, the boys there have to get their act together.
According to my contact at HTC, there will be two PDAs with the HTC Prophet/Trinity form factor, but the one with more features than the Trinity - will only be released in the spring of 2007. Early adopters will love their Trinity - but miss out on GPS, AKU 3.0, an improved processor and a higher resolution camera. With my Tytn here now, I can wait...
Trinity OS is AKU 3.0:
OS 5.1.342 (build 15096.3.0.0).
Device feels much more responsive than TyTN.
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Yeah right, 519 euros now. Amazon also offers the...Tytn for pre-order (not out yet), for 619 euros. Hahaha, the boys there have to get their act together.
According to my contact at HTC, there will be two PDAs with the HTC Prophet/Trinity form factor, but the one with more features than the Trinity - will only be released in the spring of 2007. Early adopters will love their Trinity - but miss out on GPS, AKU 3.0, an improved processor and a higher resolution camera. With my Tytn here now, I can wait...
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u mean the earlier batch would not include GPS, AKU 3.0 n a higher resolution camera?
@SecureGSM
Thanks for the info, good news
@lmf_slacker
My question to HTC was if Trinity would include the latest AKU (3.5 I think), and the answer was "no, sorry". If as per the above post 3.0 is included this would be a step in the right direction, but GPS, USB host and high resolution cam will be added later. You know the game, version I, II etc. And WM 6.0 (Crossbow) will also help sell almost identical plattforms further down the road...
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@SecureGSM
Thanks for the info, good news
@lmf_slacker
My question to HTC was if Trinity would include the latest AKU (3.5 I think), and the answer was "no, sorry". If as per the above post 3.0 is included this would be a step in the right direction, but GPS, USB host and high resolution cam will be added later. You know the game, version I, II etc. And WM 6.0 (Crossbow) will also help sell almost identical plattforms further down the road...
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thx for the info lucas, so shall i put it that its not advisable to get the 1st batch of the release then?
As we early adopters know it is never advisable to get the 1st batch of anything, just too many bugs. Depends what one has now. A Tytn in hands is better than a half baked 2007 model, with important 2007 features (GPS, USB host, Wibro, VoIP in ROM etc.) missing.
hmm then i shall wait for the later batch to be release then i will get the Trinity, i believe it will be released in Singapore by Dopod if my info source is reliable hehe
Yes, Dopod is coming with the Tinity as D810
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/handhelds/0,39001703,39272188p,00.htm
But before you get the Trinity, and if you dont need 3G, look at this upcoming Ipod-style marvel:
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/handhelds/0,39001709,61960257,00.htm
DVB-T is here in Germany now, and DVB-H will be.
Lucas0511 said:
Yes, Dopod is coming with the Tinity as D810
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/handhelds/0,39001703,39272188p,00.htm
But before you get the Trinity, and if you dont need 3G, look at this upcoming Ipod-style marvel:
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/handhelds/0,39001709,61960257,00.htm
DVB-T is here in Germany now, and DVB-H will be.
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well not that i have anything against Dopod but read in www.ppcsg.com that the service they provide, in terms of device repair and follow up is not the ideal so pray hard that when i get the device it would not give me problems so major that i have to bring to the service centre
lmf_slacker said:
the trinity black available http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=HTC _P3600, £449.95...
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Yes but due Thursday 23rd November and just in one color, black. I'd like the white color.
Just taken a long hard look at the HTC website, where as other threads have noted, the X7501 has been announced.
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_x7501.htm
Having gone through the 2 spec's the only difference I can find is WM6. My worry (being an owner of an Ameo) was that they'd spotted something in the hardware and had to release a new spec! This doesn't seem to be the case.
It gives even more hope that WM6 for the Athena is a matter of weeks away...
Difference is Front Camera
It seems the front camera is missing from the 7501 ("Second camera: VGA CMOS imaging sensor")
-Krip
anilk said:
It seems the front camera is missing from the 7501 ("Second camera: VGA CMOS imaging sensor")
-Krip
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If you have read my post, you should know this by now, the only different in 7500 and 7501 is the OS , and the front camera. HTC will not lunch the WM6 update for 7500. Not sure about Ameo, but DOPOD 100% will lunch the WM6 update for DOPOD U1000. But it's no where soon, it will be in summer.
As a U1000 owner I am much relieved. Thanks for this confirmation. I look forward to receiving WM6 update in summer even if I have to pay for it.
Say what? I just spent a lot of money on the Ameo, beleiving it WAS wm2006, because all the hype was the Athena/Advantage/Whatever would be one of the first to have it.
Now the T-Mobile Ameo HAS a front camera, does that mean no 2006 for us?
Would flashing the wrong rom mean a dead device or a device where the front cam stops working, or even a fully working device with 2006?
T-Mobile better not shaft us on 2006.
I had just assumed the 2005 in the spec was either an error or due to delays in 2006 it would ship 2005 and have an update shortly after, but from what your saying there is no upgrade for the version with front cam? that sounds mad.
There will be an official WM6 ROM. I would say 2-3 months (that's a guess btw, I don't know any official date).
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Say what? I just spent a lot of money on the Ameo, beleiving it WAS wm2006, because all the hype was the Athena/Advantage/Whatever would be one of the first to have it.
Now the T-Mobile Ameo HAS a front camera, does that mean no 2006 for us?
Would flashing the wrong rom mean a dead device or a device where the front cam stops working, or even a fully working device with 2006?
T-Mobile better not shaft us on 2006.
I had just assumed the 2005 in the spec was either an error or due to delays in 2006 it would ship 2005 and have an update shortly after, but from what your saying there is no upgrade for the version with front cam? that sounds mad.
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nono, that is not what i am saying, the no front camera version is HTC X7501 (WM6). I am not quiet sure why they took out the front camera, but certainly they will not release wm6 update for x7500 (otherwise no one will buy x7501).
For T-mobile, there is only one version, which is Ameo, since i don't have contact with T-mobile, i can't tell you whether they will release WM6 update for Ameo or not, it's really up to them. When Ameo lunch, it clearly say it's WM5, therefore they really have no responsibility to release WM6 Update. It's purely a benefit for their customer. So let's hope they will do so.
As for DOPOD, there is also only one version, DOPOD U1000, and since DOPOD is always quite strong on software development and frequent ROM update, it make sense that they will release the WM6 update.
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There will be an official WM6 ROM. I would say 2-3 months (that's a guess btw, I don't know any official date).
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What company are you talking about? T-mobile? DOPOD? or HTC? Is that confirm or not?
btw, a small good news for T-mobile Ameo owner, i went to the 3GSM, and i kind of remember T-mobile told me they will release WM6 update, but just can't remember is it for Ameo or not.
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nono, that is not what i am saying, the no front camera version is HTC X7501 (WM6). I am not quiet sure why they took out the front camera, but certainly they will not release wm6 update for x7500 (otherwise no one will buy x7501).
For T-mobile, there is only one version, which is Ameo, since i don't have contact with T-mobile, i can't tell you whether they will release WM6 update for Ameo or not, it's really up to them. When Ameo lunch, it clearly say it's WM5, therefore they really have no responsibility to release WM6 Update. It's purely a benefit for their customer. So let's hope they will do so.
As for DOPOD, there is also only one version, DOPOD U1000, and since DOPOD is always quite strong on software development and frequent ROM update, it make sense that they will release the WM6 update.
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@Wu
What is your source for No Update for HTC 7500? It is your contact at HTC? I am being told that Yes, HTC will allow upgrade for HTC 7500, as who would buy HTC 7500, if three month's later a 7501 with WM6 is planning to be released.Everyone would just wait for 7501...
At least that is what is being quoted on several WM internet sites, with quotes from HTC management. Even distributors are saying that 7500 will be able to upgrade. But then again, I guess you could put any anthena wm6 rom on any anthena device.
Just curious as to why some say their HTC source says yes and some say No...
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@Wu
What is your source for No Update for HTC 7500? It is your contact at HTC? I am being told that Yes, HTC will allow upgrade for HTC 7500, as who would buy HTC 7500, if three month's later a 7501 with WM6 is planning to be released.Everyone would just wait for 7501...
At least that is what is being quoted on several WM internet sites, with quotes from HTC management. Even distributors are saying that 7500 will be able to upgrade. But then again, I guess you could put any anthena wm6 rom on any anthena device.
Just curious as to why some say their HTC source says yes and some say No...
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Firstly i must say don't trust those website who says things without confirmation. I only post facts here, not assumption. It's not hard to assume that WM6 update will be available since they already announce the WM6 version of Advantage. Of course you can simply extract the Rom from X7501 to install on your X7500. But that is not what we call Official Update.
Second thing is HTC has never produce a Rom Update what so ever in the past, and it's very unlikely they will change as well. I have not been told there isn't WM6 update for X7500, but here is the thinking, if HTC has never produce update in the past, will they do it for x7500? If WM6 update is available for X7500, then what's the point of X7501? This is their way to make money, by lunching the same device (almost) with different OS.
Anyway, i once say again, 100% sure DOPOD will have WM6 Update, don't know about T-mobile, unlikely HTC will lunch WM6 update.
After all, if you want a black Advantage with WM6, wait for X7501 which is due out in summer.
I always thought that X7501 was geared towards US market and did not have tom tom installed. X7500 is EU specific release and as a seperate market releasing an update for WM5 for this device would not impact too much on US market..
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I always thought that X7501 was geared towards US market and did not have tom tom installed. X7500 is EU specific release and as a seperate market releasing an update for WM5 for this device would not impact too much on US market..
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both X7500 & X7501 is available in US market.
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both X7500 & X7501 is available in US market.
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Not precisely. The X7501 is meant for U.S. market and will be sold by Amazon.com. The X7500 is not intended for U.S. market, though, will be available for purchase as an import unlocked phone like so many previous HTC branded phones. I would expect the X7500 to receive a WM6 update, since the MAJORITY of buyers will should not be U.S. buyers, and the X7501 would not be locally available anyway. Just my thoughts.
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Not precisely. The X7501 is meant for U.S. market and will be sold by Amazon.com. The X7500 is not intended for U.S. market, though, will be available for purchase as an import unlocked phone like so many previous HTC branded phones. I would expect the X7500 to receive a WM6 update, since the MAJORITY of buyers will should not be U.S. buyers, and the X7501 would not be locally available anyway. Just my thoughts.
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if you go to HTC US website, you will find that X7500 will be available locally in US. And also, don't miss this important fact that HTC has never release any update for their device, and it's unlikely they will do so for x7500.
Too bad my contact in HTC can not confirm this.....
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if you go to HTC US website, you will find that X7500 will be available locally in US. And also, don't miss this important fact that HTC has never release any update for their device, and it's unlikely they will do so for x7500.
Too bad my contact in HTC can not confirm this.....
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Yes, I have gone to the American website, and under new products, the only Athena metioned is the X7501. The Avantage page only lists the X7501, as well. Can you link us to the page that shows where the X7500 will be distributed by HTC, themselves (in the U.S.) as the non american website shows in what countries (except US) where the products are sold? My understanding is that the X7501 will be the first HTC branded (not rebranded) phone marketed in the U.S. Feel free to corect me if I'm wrong on that one. Also this is why the X7500 will have a front facing camera, and the X7501 may not. There is no video conferencing infastructure by the cell companies (that I know of) in the U.S. in place as of yet.
I'm just not sure you're correct on this one. The X7500 is supposed to be European market, though as stated earlier, will most definitely be sold in the U.S. by the same companies that have always sold European market HTC phones here, like Mobileplanet, Mobilecityonline, dyamisim, etc...
Oh, and HTC should be releasing an updated ROM for the 8525 (hermes) this month or next (this one won't have WM6 though). Maybe thats not what you meant, though, since you're already aware of updated ROMs for the U1000, and possibly Ameo.
The reason no one liked to give updated OS's is because when WM5 appeared it really needed NAND based ROM. Though it could be used on a NOR based ROM device, the memory blocks had to be constantly arranged to keep from running out of memory, and it ate nearly 100% CPU about 50% of the time. Performance was terrible on the IPAQ HX4700 because of this, as I performed this upgrade when they released a WM5 upgrade for $50 (I'm not sure if anyone else ever offered one). WM6 is realy a SMALL upgrade in terms of an OS from WM5 and obviously won't need any new hardware. I'm using WM6 on my 8525, and other than a few new services, it is essentially the same as WM5 in day to day use. It does, however, have a much better remote terminal feature than WM5.
With the front camera being the difference, its unlikely, HTC won't release a ROM with WM6 on it for their $1500 device, especially since they will have one for the X7501, which would require next to no tweaking of the ROM to release for the X7500. I guess we can discuss it till the cows come home, so I suppose only time will tell. Anyway, I'm not going to wait for the X7501, and have already preordered one from Mobilecityonline. Hopefully it will be released in the next few weeks (I hope, I hope, I hope....)
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Yes, I have gone to the American website, and under new products, the only Athena metioned is the X7501. The Avantage page only lists the X7501, as well. Can you link us to the page that shows where the X7500 will be distributed by HTC, themselves (in the U.S.) as the non american website shows in what countries (except US) where the products are sold? My understanding is that the X7501 will be the first HTC branded (not rebranded) phone marketed in the U.S. Feel free to corect me if I'm wrong on that one. Also this is why the X7500 will have a front facing camera, and the X7501 may not. There is no video conferencing infastructure by the cell companies (that I know of) in the U.S. in place as of yet.
I'm just not sure you're correct on this one. The X7500 is supposed to be European market, though as stated earlier, will most definitely be sold in the U.S. by the same companies that have always sold European market HTC phones here, like Mobileplanet, Mobilecityonline, dyamisim, etc...
Oh, and HTC should be releasing an updated ROM for the 8525 (hermes) this month or next (this one won't have WM6 though). Maybe thats not what you meant, though, since you're already aware of updated ROMs for the U1000, and possibly Ameo.
The reason no one liked to give updated OS's is because when WM5 appeared it really needed NAND based ROM. Though it could be used on a NOR based ROM device, the memory blocks had to be constantly arranged to keep from running out of memory, and it ate nearly 100% CPU about 50% of the time. Performance was terrible on the IPAQ HX4700 because of this, as I performed this upgrade when they released a WM5 upgrade for $50 (I'm not sure if anyone else ever offered one). WM6 is realy a SMALL upgrade in terms of an OS from WM5 and obviously won't need any new hardware. I'm using WM6 on my 8525, and other than a few new services, it is essentially the same as WM5 in day to day use. It does, however, have a much better remote terminal feature than WM5.
With the front camera being the difference, its unlikely, HTC won't release a ROM with WM6 on it for their $1500 device, especially since they will have one for the X7501, which would require next to no tweaking of the ROM to release for the X7500. I guess we can discuss it till the cows come home, so I suppose only time will tell. Anyway, I'm not going to wait for the X7501, and have already preordered one from Mobilecityonline. Hopefully it will be released in the next few weeks (I hope, I hope, I hope....)
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I think some of your understanding might be correct, looks like i have got some info mix up. Yes when i say 7500 is available for US, i meant through company like mobileplanet. And i was looking at the wrong site as well, here is where both machine appear: http://www.htc.com/product/03-products.htm .
Once again, although i have contact in HTC, they can not tell me for sure whether they will release WM6 Update for x7500. I wasn't wrong that HTC has never produce and ROM Update before, the update you are getting for 8525 isn't produce by HTC. Advantage isn't the first phone branded only by HTC, there are others already, and they haven't receive any update what so ever yet.
I guess you are right, times will tell, (in summer). And it really isn't that much a big deal since DOPOD is for sure to have WM6, even X7500 don't have wm6 update, they can still flash the DOPOD rom.
Thanks for the link. I think its funny how they list under 'The following products are currently available from HTC'
HTC Shift
HTC Advantage x7500
HTC Advantage x7501
I wish!!!
In any case, I do look forward to hearing what you find out from your contact from HTC in the future. Thanks for all the info contributed.
Hi,
look here: http://egadgetdepot.com/catalog/pro...id=79&osCsid=4b25efdc909349321ada463643ec5be0 this X7500 is in stoke and in USA and the price is very good.
Do you think like me ?
haim said:
Hi,
look here: http://egadgetdepot.com/catalog/pro...id=79&osCsid=4b25efdc909349321ada463643ec5be0 this X7500 is in stoke and in USA and the price is very good.
Do you think like me ?
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btw, mobile planet's price is better
Thanks for the info:http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=145430 due 25/4.
Uk release date for the HTC Maple/Snap/S510 is due to be 12/13th June - Not long!
I want one. How do I get an unlocked unbranded one?
If you head on over to HTC's website (www.htc.com) you will be able to see the where to buy link and it will give you a number of suppliers or alternatively you can do a google search for 'htc snap'.
All I saw was links to buy through AT&T and T-mo. Im looking for one thats unbranded. Ill start searching after the release date I guess.
Check out some of these links:
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/1979/htc-snap
http://www.superetrader.co.uk/htc-snap-uk-black-sim-free-pda-phone-p-4025.html
http://www.devicewire.co.uk/htc-snap
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=28BF8428-CA44-413F-B847-56CD017B6FBC
Clove are due to get theirs on the 3rd June.
From Phonescoop:
HTC Snap with Sprint Branding Appears on Best Buy Web Site
Today, 8:48 AM by Eric M. Zeman
The HTC Snap, first announced earlier this year, has appeared on Best Buy's web site with Sprint branding at a price tag of $520. The Snap that was announced in April 2009 was a quad-band GSM/EDGE version with dual-band 850/1900MHz 3G support. HTC has not officially announced a CDMA variant of the Snap. The Snap has a 2 megapixel camera with video capture, Bluetooth 2.0+EDR, GPS, and Wi-Fi. The Snap also supports microSDHC cards. It runs Windows Mobile 6.1.
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Hi - Just to let you know we now have stock of the SIM Free HTC Snap http://www.devicewire.co.uk/htc-snap
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Got my snap! It really is brillinat, just setting it all up at the moment.
Tell us some more about it, or shoot a video or something !
Im not shooting video..can not be bothered.
So far i like the slim profile, and form factor, keyboard feels good and battery has lasted over a day and a half with a complete hammering on internet and constand download.
Bad bits, the back cover is a pain to get off, petty i know, but still (you need nails, I have none!). Tab key is in the wrong place, but quickly getting used to that.
Released!
www.expansys.it, 50 WWE ready for delivery: mine is on DHL Cargo!
Hi everyone.
Im about to take the plunge with my first android based phone. I have just returned the compact 5 / Diamond 2 to tmobile as I wasnt impressed with it. Ive had windows mobile before but just couldnt get on with it on the diamond 2 and the phone did not ring anywhere near loud enough unlike the hero that I have had a play with.
So phoned tmobile today to order the g2 / hero and tmobile tell me there will be a 3rd android phone as in the pulse. Also instead of using my upgrade, I could put my contract sim in the pulse and buy it outright for 174 pound.
Bar a larger screen, hardware looks identical. I am aware the hero is a high end device, but when you look at the specs of the pulse which is supposed to be a low to midrange handset, there only looks to be the camera resolution thats different.
Any news on the tmobile firmware update as yet please as well?
Any satnav software that comes with any recommendations, and hopefully free.
Your thoughts and advice please ???
Cheers
Paul
Get the G2/Hero.
The new firmware should be available for it in a few days. T-Mobile have set themselves a deadline of 28th September to have it avaialble. I know this from official posts on the UK T-Mobile official forum.
Free SatNav? You could try AndNav2 but it's still very much a work in progress. CoPilot Live 8 is reasonably priced and a good product.