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Buy HTC Athena here!!!

Now that I have sold my HTC Universal for $600USD, I wait to buy the HTC Athena. HTC Athena will be marketed in early-mid march. It is known as the T-Mobile Ameo or the Dopod U1000. Price will range from $650USD to $1000USD? If I am correct I think its competitors (well personally I think that Athena is no way comparable to this garbage f***ed ) are going to be Apple iPhone and O2 XDA Flame. You can take iPhone off your list. It is very low on performance wise. Same goes for O2 XDA Flame. Although both Flame and iPhone will be very popular, dont fall for it! They are smaller and sleeker too! iPhone = $500 and Flame probably $700?
Anyways when Athena hits market anywhere in Asia, Europe or the Americas please post links here that all of us can use to make purchases.

buy it here now
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=145454

clemsyn said:
buy it here now
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=145454
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Come on.. theres gotta be something available cheaper. My budget is $650USD -> $800USD.

nuclear said:
Come on.. theres gotta be something available cheaper. My budget is $650USD -> $800USD.
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Then I think you have a problem...

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the link says to leave you email and they will message you when they have stock, so i don't think they have them yet.

Moskus said:
Then I think you have a problem...
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Not really i think the price i offer is pretty descent for a pocket pc only. I dont want any addons. Just a plain vanilla. Since with all addons it costs 600 pounds then maybe 400 pounds without addons? or maybe i have to wait longer?

When you say *all the add-ons* I hardly think the gift pack is adding much to it.
Box Contents:
- Dopod U1000 Pocket PC
- Battery
- USB Sync. Cable
- VGA out adaptor cable
- Stereo wired headset with microphone
- Carrying Case
- User manual, quick start guide & software CD
Gift Pack:
- Bluetooth Headset
- Screen Protector
- GPS Software with Hong Kong & China map
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I think those last 3 are free, so I doubt you will be seeing it any more vanilla.

datacrime said:
the link says to leave you email and they will message you when they have stock, so i don't think they have them yet.
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Right - will be on stock on 18th of march!
You just have to wait! Anyone knows the "roadmap" for the htc 7500 - where can I find it!

utakurt said:
Right - will be on stock on 18th of march!
You just have to wait! Anyone knows the "roadmap" for the htc 7500 - where can I find it!
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You know they quite often delay the Availability date? ......let's hope this time they won't!

I hate the price but this is so far the best looking body finish. Original unmodified HTC Advantage X7500 available to be bought from HTC themselves. Price is $1500USD. >.> Dang.
http://www.htcphonestore.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_X7500

nuclear said:
I hate the price but this is so far the best looking body finish. Original unmodified HTC Advantage X7500 available to be bought from HTC themselves. Price is $1500USD. >.> Dang.
http://www.htcphonestore.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_X7500
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As you can see, they are on pre-order only, that's why some member here decide to buy from me, they don't want to wait anymore! beside that i can get it cheaper than $1500, i can get it for $1260 including shipping !

wu5262 said:
As you can see, they are on pre-order only, that's why some member here decide to buy from me, they don't want to wait anymore! beside that i can get it cheaper than $1500, i can get it for $1260 including shipping !
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I think i like this the best http://base.google.com/base/a/buyabroadltd/1536655/D3126409740239874062 !!! amazing price and its the black one!

nuclear said:
I think i like this the best http://base.google.com/base/a/buyabroadltd/1536655/D3126409740239874062 !!! amazing price and its the black one!
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Please be aware of all these cheap HTC Advantage, they are all FAKE!!!!!
It's not out yet the Advantage until beginning of april. I have official confirmation on this. If you look at that seller, he is also selling the Apple iPhone 8G ! Do you believe it or not, your decision.

Yea its not out. maybe thats a pre-order or its just another fraud.. but still i like that offer. Maybe something like that will come later on. I like the black athena and i will only go for that. i had a silver universal earlier and didnt like it much.

wu5262 said:
Please be aware of all these cheap HTC Advantage, they are all FAKE!!!!!
It's not out yet the Advantage until beginning of april. I have official confirmation on this. If you look at that seller, he is also selling the Apple iPhone 8G ! Do you believe it or not, your decision.
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Yes, They are Fake
I speak with one of them and they don't want give me the unit
don't but them from internet, and if want to buy go there and give their unit and after give money;-)
tanX

I guess i will have to wait 2 more months for the black one to drop on price. right now its $1500 :'(

nuclear said:
I guess i will have to wait 2 more months for the black one to drop on price. right now its $1500 :'(
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in some site it is Pre-Order for Begin of April and cost is about 1200$
But i hope it be cheaper

$1200 alright i am ready. where? for htc advantage?

nuclear said:
$1200 alright i am ready. where? for htc advantage?
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yes. i will be send a list of shop that sell Advantage;-(
tanX

all of these sell HTC Advantage, but these are Pre-Order
http://www.superetrader.co.uk/htc-advantage-x7500-smartphone-mobile-phone-simfree-p-951.html
http://www.smartphonesdirect.co.uk/displayproduct.php?product_id=35
http://www.negrielectronics.com/pro...id=64&osCsid=d55305e6844ad97e18485885f8319160
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....Category=7AACD769-F0CA-4FEB-A8DF-C9F3E02B290C
http://www.devicewire.com/HTC-X7500-Advantage?sc=15&category=2668
http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=135&products_id=1554
http://www.elite-electronix.com/product_info.php?products_id=765
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=22132&refid=froogle&utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=HTC%20Advantage&utm_campaign=froogle
i send some other shop in a bit later

Order your HTC Athena here !!!!

Hi everyone, i am getting more and more people asking me about HTC Athena so i decide to post a new thread about it with all the information.
From the information i heard and from what people are saying in 3GSM, the HTC Advantage and T-mobile Ameo won't be available until beginning of April at least. And also they have lock it to t-mobile network, and currently there is no unlock method for it.
The only Athena available (unlock to any network) is the DOPOD U1000 in Taiwan, it's the same machine just under a different brand. It's got silver finish like the Ameo, (i heard the finish is much better than Ameo, it's got metal finish) so if you are after the black one, you need to wait for Advantage.
************HTC ADVANTAGE RELEASE DATE IS PUSH BACK DUE TO UN-STABLE ROM, POSSIBLE RELEASE DATE NOW CHANGE TO END OF APRIL OR BEGINNING OF MAY ***********
************T-mobile Ameo is out in UK!!!! But it's lock to T-mobile UK, and is with contract only (starting from £35 per month !!! Yes you won't be able to buy it without contract ! Even in the future......but for people who are t-mobile customer or for people who want to sign up new contract, this is your moment !*************************
***********Because T-mobile Ameo is out in UK, which means...........yes !!! Dopod u1000 user will get their english Rom very soon! *********************
Since DOPOD U1000 is already available in Taiwan, and my family is there, so i can do you guys a favor of ordering for you. My parents are the direct reseller of DOPOD, so the price will be a little bit under the Market price, which is £600 /$1150 . It will be cheaper than expansys or Mobile planet, but most importantly, it's available now, so you can get it if you don't want to wait.
So this is how it works, i don't have the machine with me so once i get your payment or deposit, i will order one for you, because they don't ship internationally, once i order, it will shows up at my parent's office next day, and to save time, they can ship out directly to your country on that day, it will take about 4-5 days for it to arrive to US OR UK. So once you pay, you should get it within 1 week.
Now for the payment, i accept all kinds of reasonable suggestion, but please understand one thing, since i am doing the favor for you guys, i won't risk myself and nor i am trying to make a profit on it. So if you don't feel comfortable, don't do it. I have an ebay account, i can put a private listing on then you can buy there, or if you are in London, i can meet up and hand you the machine with cash, or you can transfer money to my bank account, then i ship out the item for you. For UK buyer, i will also accept postal order. If you decide to pay by paypal, you will need to add the extra tax on, which is 3% i think? (need to check on that)
Now this is what you will get, the DOPOD U1000 Silver Athena with CHINESE rom, yes it's chinese ROM, you can surely change it to english rom later. The keyboard layout is exactly the same (unlike german keyboard) but there will be small chinese symbol on it, it's how we use to type chinese. It won't make any difference if you don't use it. Of course the manual will be in chinese, but i think there will be english part on it as well, or you can download from internet. The charger will be in chinese charger (the same as US one i think, but not sure), all you need to do just plug in a converter or buy a new adapter. And don't forget, you can always use to USB to charge your PDA as well.
So after reading all this, if you still want the device, let me know, or PM me, or post question here, i will try my best to help.
I just got a confirm that the postage to US, UK, and similar country will cost £50, i will be able to put the parcel as gift, so you should be able to avoid customs Tax. I might can put the price down if a large amount of people want it, or to ship to the same country.
p.s. The phone is unlock to any network, so no matter where you are, you can use it with no problem.
******Ok, i have received quite a lot of message regarding about shipping cost, they all cost around £50, but for some special country, they might cost more, it's impossible for me to check each postage for you, since i don't know the answer as well. So i will say the postage will be a fix price of £50 to any country, but if it works out to be far more cheaper or expensive, i will let you know **************
!!!!!!!!! Although i will try my best to avoid custom Tax for you, if you get charge with custom Tax, i won't be responsible for it ! so please understand this point !!!!!!!!!
****It seems like a few member here are looking at the HTC Advantage selling on Google, it is your own risk to buy it there, but i must inform you they are 99% fake, i have spoke to HTC, and have official confirm that the HTC Advantage won't be out until beginning of April. So don't be foo by the price there and waste the money, don't believe me, look at the list of item that seller is selling, he se selling the Apple iPhone! you make the call *******
p.s. Here is a link with nice Photo of DOPOD U1000, and this is what you will get if you order it from me. http://www.go3c.com.tw/
p.s. I have just received mine, wowowow, the build quality are much nicer than i expect. And also Unlike the Ameo, the DOPOD U1000 is brighter metal finish. I have attach the pic of what you will get if you order soon enough, the DOPOD U1000 + HTC Stereo BT Headset
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Ok, i think there are a few confusion here about the language and english rom update ability. The DOPOD U1000 is in chinese, if you are a heavy PDA user, then it shouldn't be a problem since you already know which icon does what. And the new software you install yourself will all be in english. But if you want all your menu and settings to be in English, you can install the CE-STAR SUITE, like this one : http://www.expansys.com.hk/p.aspx?i=144165 . It basically translate all the User interface into english, so all your setting will be in english. Or the final and most complete way is to do a ROM upgrade to english ROM. Dopod u1000 will 100% have no problem doing the english Rom upgrade, so why don't people do it now? It's because English Rom is not out for Athena yet, or in another word, Athena is not out in english market yet. That's why some member here choose to buy it from me, they will use their machine now, and when English Rom is available, they will upgrade it.
So When is English Rom available? Answer is simple, when Ameo is out in UK (not anywhere else) or when Advantage is out,then you will be able to use their ROM to upgrade to english.
I hope this is clear enough, have been seeing too many confusion in a few thread.....
****Latest Update! English DOPOD is now possible, look here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299176. No need to worry about the chinese interface anymore, all solve d!!! ******
7/4/07 update: faisal has comes up with a cab file which will translate your chinese DOPOD into english, here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1212411&posted=1#post1212411 . So for people who is waiting for english solution, this is your time !
I have also attach a today screen of my DOPOD U1000, which running the software i install, see all in english !

Will it work with Fido/Cingular/Virgin mobile/Rogers/T-Mobile SIM's? Is it unlocked to work on those networks or only on Dopod? I like that price. I am ordering one. I dont care about the keyboard. Although I think that I will be keeping this phone for 5 - 10 years so i want a black one. >.< T-Mobile Ameo is going to be black. I think i will wait another month or so for a black one. I like that price though $1000 USD best price!

nuclear said:
Will it work with Fido/Cingular/Virgin mobile/Rogers/T-Mobile SIM's? Is it unlocked to work on those networks or only on Dopod? I like that price. I am ordering one. I dont care about the keyboard. Although I think that I will be keeping this phone for 5 - 10 years so i want a black one. >.< T-Mobile Ameo is going to be black. I think i will wait another month or so for a black one. I like that price though $1000 USD best price!
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Yes , it's unlock to any network.

Can you ship to indonesia?

cornelius said:
Can you ship to indonesia?
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Yes no problem

Cost?
wu5262 said:
Yes no problem
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How much I must pay plus shipping cost, or where i can ask for it?

what about shipping to australia?? shipping costs?? if the price is reasonable then ill buy one tomorrow

cornelius said:
How much I must pay plus shipping cost, or where i can ask for it?
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Well, if you understand chinese, you can order them online, but the problem is they don't ship internationally, that's why i need to ask my parents to help me, they live in Taiwan. The cost of the machine is £600, and the shipping is around £50, if i get charge far more than £50 for shipping, i will let you know. But £650 should be all

walshieau said:
what about shipping to australia?? shipping costs?? if the price is reasonable then ill buy one tomorrow
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Shipping to Australia will be about the same as well, £50

Good news!
Here is a good news i heard from my friend, who is happily using his DOPOD U1000 Now.
He has reported that the Dopod u1000 is EXTREMELY stable, after 80 third party software installed on his machine, it's still running very smoothly.
Another good news is apparently, the build quality of DOPOD u1000 is higher than expected. I here confirm again, it uses a different material than T-mobile Ameo, the DOPOD U1000 has a metal finish which boost up the feel of this machine.
Man, i really can't wait now, if i am lucky, i should get mine tomorrow

wu5262 said:
Here is a good news i heard from my friend, who is happily using his DOPOD U1000 Now.
He has reported that the Dopod u1000 is EXTREMELY stable, after 80 third party software installed on his machine, it's still running very smoothly.
Another good news is apparently, the build quality of DOPOD u1000 is higher than expected. I here confirm again, it uses a different material than T-mobile Ameo, the DOPOD U1000 has a metal finish which boost up the feel of this machine.
Man, i really can't wait now, if i am lucky, i should get mine tomorrow
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tanX
mean i go to buy a DOPOD U1000 and not buy Advatnage
the dopod is really better than that?
do you read my post about magntec and harmfull?
WHY DOPOD U1000 IS NOT BLACK?

Arya said:
tanX
mean i go to buy a DOPOD U1000 and not buy Advatnage
the dopod is really better than that?
do you read my post about magntec and harmfull?
WHY DOPOD U1000 IS NOT BLACK?
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i don't really care about the magnates, it shouldn't do any harm, otherwise this product won't even be on market. As i say before, if you only want black one, wait for HTC Advantage, it will be out at the beginning of April.

wu5262 said:
i don't really care about the magnates, it shouldn't do any harm, otherwise this product won't even be on market. As i say before, if you only want black one, wait for HTC Advantage, it will be out at the beginning of April.
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of course
i know
tanX
but you say Dopod is very better
if it is better, if i go for dopod is very better

Arya said:
of course
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tanX
but you say Dopod is very better
if it is better, if i go for dopod is very better
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well, at the moment, the DOPOD rom seems very smooth and bug free. It's quite unusual they produce such a good rom in the first go. Anyway, as i said, if you want the black one, you should wait for Advantage, if your contract is due to end, consider the Ameo as well, otherwise you should consider getting the Dopod u1000 from me

wu5262 said:
well, at the moment, the DOPOD rom seems very smooth and bug free. It's quite unusual they produce such a good rom in the first go. Anyway, as i said, if you want the black one, you should wait for Advantage, if your contract is due to end, consider the Ameo as well, otherwise you should consider getting the Dopod u1000 from me
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tanX
I want black but aslo i want a good device
you say the quality of build is better
because the rom's problem can repair, but the device buliding no
I see the U1000 and Advantage in pictures, and maybe U1000 really be more nice than U1000
If you see, please tell me, what is your opinion about that
tanX and Sorry

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I found an another HTC Advantage for sell but now it is 850$ :
http://base.google.com/base/a/buyabroadltd/1536655/D3126409740239874062
and aslo HTC Advantage with extra accessorie for 1295$ :
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=146754

Arya said:
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I found an another HTC Advantage for sell but now it is 850$ :
http://base.google.com/base/a/buyabroadltd/1536655/D3126409740239874062
and aslo HTC Advantage with extra accessorie for 1295$ :
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=146754
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Oh thanks so much i was looking for that. $850 is perfect price!!!

nuclear said:
Oh thanks so much i was looking for that. $850 is perfect price!!!
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Look guys, i only going to say this onee more, those HTC Advantage are not real! The Advantage is not out yer, you can confirm that by e-mailing HTC yourself. It won't be out until beginning of April. If you look at that seller, he is also selling the Apple iPhone 8G, do you believe it? you make the decision! Don't waste your money there......please

Yup i agree. That looks fraudulent. Wire transfer... I dont trust it at all. Anyways i will email the person asking for proof or payment via paypal with buyer protection upto 2000USD. Maybe that will keep me safe. The 8G iPhone really looks fishy and bs!

wu5262 said:
Look guys, i only going to say this onee more, those HTC Advantage are not real! The Advantage is not out yer, you can confirm that by e-mailing HTC yourself. It won't be out until beginning of April. If you look at that seller, he is also selling the Apple iPhone 8G, do you believe it? you make the decision! Don't waste your money there......please
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Yes
They are not really shoper
I talk with one of them yesterday and he want to give me unit
If you want give them, only give them with going there
tanX

X7500 vs X7501

Just taken a long hard look at the HTC website, where as other threads have noted, the X7501 has been announced.
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_x7501.htm
Having gone through the 2 spec's the only difference I can find is WM6. My worry (being an owner of an Ameo) was that they'd spotted something in the hardware and had to release a new spec! This doesn't seem to be the case.
It gives even more hope that WM6 for the Athena is a matter of weeks away...

Difference is Front Camera
It seems the front camera is missing from the 7501 ("Second camera: VGA CMOS imaging sensor")
-Krip

anilk said:
It seems the front camera is missing from the 7501 ("Second camera: VGA CMOS imaging sensor")
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If you have read my post, you should know this by now, the only different in 7500 and 7501 is the OS , and the front camera. HTC will not lunch the WM6 update for 7500. Not sure about Ameo, but DOPOD 100% will lunch the WM6 update for DOPOD U1000. But it's no where soon, it will be in summer.

As a U1000 owner I am much relieved. Thanks for this confirmation. I look forward to receiving WM6 update in summer even if I have to pay for it.

Say what? I just spent a lot of money on the Ameo, beleiving it WAS wm2006, because all the hype was the Athena/Advantage/Whatever would be one of the first to have it.
Now the T-Mobile Ameo HAS a front camera, does that mean no 2006 for us?
Would flashing the wrong rom mean a dead device or a device where the front cam stops working, or even a fully working device with 2006?
T-Mobile better not shaft us on 2006.
I had just assumed the 2005 in the spec was either an error or due to delays in 2006 it would ship 2005 and have an update shortly after, but from what your saying there is no upgrade for the version with front cam? that sounds mad.

There will be an official WM6 ROM. I would say 2-3 months (that's a guess btw, I don't know any official date).

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Say what? I just spent a lot of money on the Ameo, beleiving it WAS wm2006, because all the hype was the Athena/Advantage/Whatever would be one of the first to have it.
Now the T-Mobile Ameo HAS a front camera, does that mean no 2006 for us?
Would flashing the wrong rom mean a dead device or a device where the front cam stops working, or even a fully working device with 2006?
T-Mobile better not shaft us on 2006.
I had just assumed the 2005 in the spec was either an error or due to delays in 2006 it would ship 2005 and have an update shortly after, but from what your saying there is no upgrade for the version with front cam? that sounds mad.
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nono, that is not what i am saying, the no front camera version is HTC X7501 (WM6). I am not quiet sure why they took out the front camera, but certainly they will not release wm6 update for x7500 (otherwise no one will buy x7501).
For T-mobile, there is only one version, which is Ameo, since i don't have contact with T-mobile, i can't tell you whether they will release WM6 update for Ameo or not, it's really up to them. When Ameo lunch, it clearly say it's WM5, therefore they really have no responsibility to release WM6 Update. It's purely a benefit for their customer. So let's hope they will do so.
As for DOPOD, there is also only one version, DOPOD U1000, and since DOPOD is always quite strong on software development and frequent ROM update, it make sense that they will release the WM6 update.

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There will be an official WM6 ROM. I would say 2-3 months (that's a guess btw, I don't know any official date).
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What company are you talking about? T-mobile? DOPOD? or HTC? Is that confirm or not?
btw, a small good news for T-mobile Ameo owner, i went to the 3GSM, and i kind of remember T-mobile told me they will release WM6 update, but just can't remember is it for Ameo or not.

wu5262 said:
nono, that is not what i am saying, the no front camera version is HTC X7501 (WM6). I am not quiet sure why they took out the front camera, but certainly they will not release wm6 update for x7500 (otherwise no one will buy x7501).
For T-mobile, there is only one version, which is Ameo, since i don't have contact with T-mobile, i can't tell you whether they will release WM6 update for Ameo or not, it's really up to them. When Ameo lunch, it clearly say it's WM5, therefore they really have no responsibility to release WM6 Update. It's purely a benefit for their customer. So let's hope they will do so.
As for DOPOD, there is also only one version, DOPOD U1000, and since DOPOD is always quite strong on software development and frequent ROM update, it make sense that they will release the WM6 update.
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@Wu
What is your source for No Update for HTC 7500? It is your contact at HTC? I am being told that Yes, HTC will allow upgrade for HTC 7500, as who would buy HTC 7500, if three month's later a 7501 with WM6 is planning to be released.Everyone would just wait for 7501...
At least that is what is being quoted on several WM internet sites, with quotes from HTC management. Even distributors are saying that 7500 will be able to upgrade. But then again, I guess you could put any anthena wm6 rom on any anthena device.
Just curious as to why some say their HTC source says yes and some say No...

eagle 1 said:
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What is your source for No Update for HTC 7500? It is your contact at HTC? I am being told that Yes, HTC will allow upgrade for HTC 7500, as who would buy HTC 7500, if three month's later a 7501 with WM6 is planning to be released.Everyone would just wait for 7501...
At least that is what is being quoted on several WM internet sites, with quotes from HTC management. Even distributors are saying that 7500 will be able to upgrade. But then again, I guess you could put any anthena wm6 rom on any anthena device.
Just curious as to why some say their HTC source says yes and some say No...
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Firstly i must say don't trust those website who says things without confirmation. I only post facts here, not assumption. It's not hard to assume that WM6 update will be available since they already announce the WM6 version of Advantage. Of course you can simply extract the Rom from X7501 to install on your X7500. But that is not what we call Official Update.
Second thing is HTC has never produce a Rom Update what so ever in the past, and it's very unlikely they will change as well. I have not been told there isn't WM6 update for X7500, but here is the thinking, if HTC has never produce update in the past, will they do it for x7500? If WM6 update is available for X7500, then what's the point of X7501? This is their way to make money, by lunching the same device (almost) with different OS.
Anyway, i once say again, 100% sure DOPOD will have WM6 Update, don't know about T-mobile, unlikely HTC will lunch WM6 update.
After all, if you want a black Advantage with WM6, wait for X7501 which is due out in summer.

I always thought that X7501 was geared towards US market and did not have tom tom installed. X7500 is EU specific release and as a seperate market releasing an update for WM5 for this device would not impact too much on US market..

weareborg said:
I always thought that X7501 was geared towards US market and did not have tom tom installed. X7500 is EU specific release and as a seperate market releasing an update for WM5 for this device would not impact too much on US market..
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both X7500 & X7501 is available in US market.

wu5262 said:
both X7500 & X7501 is available in US market.
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Not precisely. The X7501 is meant for U.S. market and will be sold by Amazon.com. The X7500 is not intended for U.S. market, though, will be available for purchase as an import unlocked phone like so many previous HTC branded phones. I would expect the X7500 to receive a WM6 update, since the MAJORITY of buyers will should not be U.S. buyers, and the X7501 would not be locally available anyway. Just my thoughts.

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Not precisely. The X7501 is meant for U.S. market and will be sold by Amazon.com. The X7500 is not intended for U.S. market, though, will be available for purchase as an import unlocked phone like so many previous HTC branded phones. I would expect the X7500 to receive a WM6 update, since the MAJORITY of buyers will should not be U.S. buyers, and the X7501 would not be locally available anyway. Just my thoughts.
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if you go to HTC US website, you will find that X7500 will be available locally in US. And also, don't miss this important fact that HTC has never release any update for their device, and it's unlikely they will do so for x7500.
Too bad my contact in HTC can not confirm this.....

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if you go to HTC US website, you will find that X7500 will be available locally in US. And also, don't miss this important fact that HTC has never release any update for their device, and it's unlikely they will do so for x7500.
Too bad my contact in HTC can not confirm this.....
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Yes, I have gone to the American website, and under new products, the only Athena metioned is the X7501. The Avantage page only lists the X7501, as well. Can you link us to the page that shows where the X7500 will be distributed by HTC, themselves (in the U.S.) as the non american website shows in what countries (except US) where the products are sold? My understanding is that the X7501 will be the first HTC branded (not rebranded) phone marketed in the U.S. Feel free to corect me if I'm wrong on that one. Also this is why the X7500 will have a front facing camera, and the X7501 may not. There is no video conferencing infastructure by the cell companies (that I know of) in the U.S. in place as of yet.
I'm just not sure you're correct on this one. The X7500 is supposed to be European market, though as stated earlier, will most definitely be sold in the U.S. by the same companies that have always sold European market HTC phones here, like Mobileplanet, Mobilecityonline, dyamisim, etc...
Oh, and HTC should be releasing an updated ROM for the 8525 (hermes) this month or next (this one won't have WM6 though). Maybe thats not what you meant, though, since you're already aware of updated ROMs for the U1000, and possibly Ameo.
The reason no one liked to give updated OS's is because when WM5 appeared it really needed NAND based ROM. Though it could be used on a NOR based ROM device, the memory blocks had to be constantly arranged to keep from running out of memory, and it ate nearly 100% CPU about 50% of the time. Performance was terrible on the IPAQ HX4700 because of this, as I performed this upgrade when they released a WM5 upgrade for $50 (I'm not sure if anyone else ever offered one). WM6 is realy a SMALL upgrade in terms of an OS from WM5 and obviously won't need any new hardware. I'm using WM6 on my 8525, and other than a few new services, it is essentially the same as WM5 in day to day use. It does, however, have a much better remote terminal feature than WM5.
With the front camera being the difference, its unlikely, HTC won't release a ROM with WM6 on it for their $1500 device, especially since they will have one for the X7501, which would require next to no tweaking of the ROM to release for the X7500. I guess we can discuss it till the cows come home, so I suppose only time will tell. Anyway, I'm not going to wait for the X7501, and have already preordered one from Mobilecityonline. Hopefully it will be released in the next few weeks (I hope, I hope, I hope....)

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Yes, I have gone to the American website, and under new products, the only Athena metioned is the X7501. The Avantage page only lists the X7501, as well. Can you link us to the page that shows where the X7500 will be distributed by HTC, themselves (in the U.S.) as the non american website shows in what countries (except US) where the products are sold? My understanding is that the X7501 will be the first HTC branded (not rebranded) phone marketed in the U.S. Feel free to corect me if I'm wrong on that one. Also this is why the X7500 will have a front facing camera, and the X7501 may not. There is no video conferencing infastructure by the cell companies (that I know of) in the U.S. in place as of yet.
I'm just not sure you're correct on this one. The X7500 is supposed to be European market, though as stated earlier, will most definitely be sold in the U.S. by the same companies that have always sold European market HTC phones here, like Mobileplanet, Mobilecityonline, dyamisim, etc...
Oh, and HTC should be releasing an updated ROM for the 8525 (hermes) this month or next (this one won't have WM6 though). Maybe thats not what you meant, though, since you're already aware of updated ROMs for the U1000, and possibly Ameo.
The reason no one liked to give updated OS's is because when WM5 appeared it really needed NAND based ROM. Though it could be used on a NOR based ROM device, the memory blocks had to be constantly arranged to keep from running out of memory, and it ate nearly 100% CPU about 50% of the time. Performance was terrible on the IPAQ HX4700 because of this, as I performed this upgrade when they released a WM5 upgrade for $50 (I'm not sure if anyone else ever offered one). WM6 is realy a SMALL upgrade in terms of an OS from WM5 and obviously won't need any new hardware. I'm using WM6 on my 8525, and other than a few new services, it is essentially the same as WM5 in day to day use. It does, however, have a much better remote terminal feature than WM5.
With the front camera being the difference, its unlikely, HTC won't release a ROM with WM6 on it for their $1500 device, especially since they will have one for the X7501, which would require next to no tweaking of the ROM to release for the X7500. I guess we can discuss it till the cows come home, so I suppose only time will tell. Anyway, I'm not going to wait for the X7501, and have already preordered one from Mobilecityonline. Hopefully it will be released in the next few weeks (I hope, I hope, I hope....)
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I think some of your understanding might be correct, looks like i have got some info mix up. Yes when i say 7500 is available for US, i meant through company like mobileplanet. And i was looking at the wrong site as well, here is where both machine appear: http://www.htc.com/product/03-products.htm .
Once again, although i have contact in HTC, they can not tell me for sure whether they will release WM6 Update for x7500. I wasn't wrong that HTC has never produce and ROM Update before, the update you are getting for 8525 isn't produce by HTC. Advantage isn't the first phone branded only by HTC, there are others already, and they haven't receive any update what so ever yet.
I guess you are right, times will tell, (in summer). And it really isn't that much a big deal since DOPOD is for sure to have WM6, even X7500 don't have wm6 update, they can still flash the DOPOD rom.

Thanks for the link. I think its funny how they list under 'The following products are currently available from HTC'
HTC Shift
HTC Advantage x7500
HTC Advantage x7501
I wish!!!
In any case, I do look forward to hearing what you find out from your contact from HTC in the future. Thanks for all the info contributed.

Hi,
look here: http://egadgetdepot.com/catalog/pro...id=79&osCsid=4b25efdc909349321ada463643ec5be0 this X7500 is in stoke and in USA and the price is very good.
Do you think like me ?

haim said:
Hi,
look here: http://egadgetdepot.com/catalog/pro...id=79&osCsid=4b25efdc909349321ada463643ec5be0 this X7500 is in stoke and in USA and the price is very good.
Do you think like me ?
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btw, mobile planet's price is better

Thanks for the info:http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=145430 due 25/4.

Buying a Blackstone

blackstone is my next choice for a phone after having a polaris for a while now.
the problem is that i live in israel and we don't have it here.
I'd like to know if anyone knows where i could buy it but not in a package deal but only the device itself. I'll order it somehow..
thanks.

HTC touch HD will be top pick when it is release near the end of october so 1 more month. yay. bye bye diamond.
979.99 shipping the end of october - USA
http://onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_TOUCH_HD
899.00 also shipping at the end of october- USA
http://www.elite-electronix.com/pocket-pcs/htc-touch-hd-unlocked

thank you..

Keeping an up to date Blackstone vendor wiki here >http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Vendors
Report any vendors here or in the wiki thanks

Well, it hasn't even been officially released, so wait until its released to start looking to buy it. Most dates that say they will ship aren't so reliable.
Look at this site. . .
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....Category=591602F7-C32B-44D8-859D-F9230F032E7E
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct....category=591602F7-C32B-44D8-859D-F9230F032E7E

~~Tito~~ said:
Well, it hasn't even been officially released, so wait until its released to start looking to buy it. Most dates that say they will ship aren't so reliable.
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Ya I remember the Raphael, that was put back about 5 or 6 times. ended up 4 weeks later than originaly expected

Are HTC doing a big announcement for this phone or are they going to keep it on the DL so that the G1 gets all the publicity and be called an Iphone challenger which it isn't the HD I would consider is.

It HAS been officially released. It was officially released by HTC a couple weeks ago and officially released by O2 in Germany today or yesterday or something. Now, if you mean for sale, it is not for sale yet but will be probably within the week.

who are we looking at for a service provider here in the states?

Probably will start with Sprint as they are the primary carrier of HTC flagship phones. After 30 days or so it will prolly be picked up by AT&T and T-Mobile, then Verizon and Altel.

Nagrom Nniuq said:
It HAS been officially released. It was officially released by HTC a couple weeks ago and officially released by O2 in Germany today or yesterday or something. Now, if you mean for sale, it is not for sale yet but will be probably within the week.
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You have it backwards. Released means for sale and what you said means they officially announced it.

Ah k my bad.

Hey guys... good to see the thread up and running for this great new HTC offering. I will certainly be trading in the Diamond, mainly because battery life and camera but also love the bigger screen and I don´t use the D Pad on the Diamond so better to have more screen space!!
Back to the topic....Do you they´ll release it in Asia first like the Diamond? I remember you could buy the Diamond on Ebay from HK about 4 weeks before the official Europe release.

I think Germany has already gotten first dibs on it. o2 is supposed to be the first carrier to get it.

jagnet said:
Keeping an up to date Blackstone vendor wiki here >http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Vendors
Report any vendors here or in the wiki thanks
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hi,
they have it for 581.91 euro with a release date of 19/10/2008 at
http://pdas.centralpoint.nl/htc/99hhc013-00/touch-hd-wwe-eu/

Updated wiki.
Looks like a vendor has them in stock...

Is electromaticinc.net trustworthy?

It doesn't look like it. Anyone have $600 to gamble?

It is a scam
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080921103630AAOYVQs

Jackster said:
hi,
they have it for 581.91 euro with a release date of 19/10/2008 at
http://pdas.centralpoint.nl/htc/99hhc013-00/touch-hd-wwe-eu/
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It now says €577,15
Let's hope the prices keep in this zone. It will be far less than what I paid for the Kaiser I'm currently using. And it's less than the Touch Pro (€ 589,05)

HD with WM6.1 & Upgrading to WM7 when it comes out?

I'm contemplating buying a Touch HD. I don't really want to wait until half way through 2009 until WM 7 comes out, or perhaps even later when it is used.
Would it be possible to upgrade OS when WM7 DOES come out? officially or with a ROM upgrade?
Thanks.

BANE said:
I'm contemplating buying a Touch HD. I don't really want to wait until half way through 2009 until WM 7 comes out, or perhaps even later when it is used.
Would it be possible to upgrade OS when WM7 DOES come out? officially or with a ROM upgrade?
Thanks.
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I dont know about official ROM from HTC, but I am sure this community will cook it for ya.

Yeah I would bank on the Touch being able to run it. WinMo hardware changes very slowly so specs wise should fall in line with Win7 and dont even get me started on the amount of times ive seen this community churn out roms for devices you didnt think possible

Looks good then just one more nudge toward the buy.... now I just need to get payed lol
thanks,
....IB a n e

I have some for sale on eBay, if you're interested: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=260308612336

zyborg said:
I have some for sale on eBay, if you're interested: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=260308612336
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cheaper on clove as well as faster deliver. Lower your price

I think we should talk about upgrading to WM 6.5 because WM 7 is not going to be realese till late 2009.

hassan said:
I think we should talk about upgrading to WM 6.5 because WM 7 is not going to be realese till late 2009.
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Agree
Aparently wm6.5 will bewith us in mid 09

How is £522.88 (incl. VAT BUT excl. delivery) cheaper than £525 (no VAT and incl. delivery)????
and I ensure delivery in 3 business days. I'd like to see someone else do that faster for overseas shipments....
mallman said:
cheaper on clove as well as faster deliver. Lower your price
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WM7 = Multi Touch OS Vs Touch HD non multi Touch Screen
WM7 is a multi touch enabled OS. The HTC Touch HD does not have a multi touch screen but I am sure we will be able to upgrade using it as we do with WM6.1.
Do you guys have any idea when WM6.5 is due?

es_hicham said:
WM7 is a multi touch enabled OS. The HTC Touch HD does not have a multi touch screen but I am sure we will be able to upgrade using it as we do with WM6.1.
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Well you would have to replace the screen physically as it has a capacitive screen and not sensitive... "Touch HD Sense" maybe
es_hicham said:
Do you guys have any idea when WM6.5 is due?
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they say mid 09... they said it for WM7 also

We still have one year to go before seeing WM7 appear, I am sure we can enjoy playing with a Touch HD meanwhile

considering the touch dual was being used with wm7 in the live mesh ad, I'm guessing that wm7 supplies multi-touch drivers for htc's resistive touch screens
don't take my word for it, though. the HD is a big purchase

Windows Mobile 6.5 confirmed
Windows Mobile 6.5 confirmed
Following the announced delay of Windows Mobile 7, an intermediary upgrade step has been confirmed. While visiting Australia for Liberation Day, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer spoke of the Windows Mobile 6.5 upgrade for next year in his roadmap.
See also this webcast.

zyborg said:
How is £522.88 (incl. VAT BUT excl. delivery) cheaper than £525 (no VAT and incl. delivery)????
and I ensure delivery in 3 business days. I'd like to see someone else do that faster for overseas shipments....
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got mine from clove to usa in 2 days. ot sure what vat is. shipped mine was $760

Software based multitouch?
I think Microsoft wants to build a "multitouch for everyone" OS.
So can't there be a software based multitouch?

mallman said:
got mine from clove to usa in 2 days. ot sure what vat is. shipped mine was $760
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VAT is tax..

mallman said:
got mine from clove to usa in 2 days. ot sure what vat is. shipped mine was $760
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just wanted to throw out that it should be about ~$665.70387 shipped based on the current exchange rate from handtec

mallman said:
got mine from clove to usa in 2 days. ot sure what vat is. shipped mine was $760
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VAT is "value added tax" it is a tax for goods or services rendered from any establishment within the euro zone and its based on percentage of the total value.For buyers outside EU the VAT is not applicable so the total price should not be inclusive of this tax