Hi All,
I am interesting to buy the HTC HD2, now I was looking over the internrt and I found some realy cheap deals, but I am not sure if those devices are a real HTC HD2, some of them I know for fact that they are from Chaina...
Well what I have in mind that we can organizew as a group and get a good deal with one of the HTC providers.
What I suggest that we will buy devices as one group.
What I think is the best way that every one will pay by credit\paypa\google to the provider, but we will pay as a group only after we will close a good deal, the provider will create an invoice for payment, every one will pay for his own device with his own shipment address.
I didn't start to bargen with providers\sellers, and I will start if we will enotgh people.
If you are a seller\provider and want to give us a good deal please add your comments.
If you know a seller - the same.
Now if you want to participate, please add your comment, in the begining we will see how many people want to buy then it will be easier to find a deal, for example, if we will buy 10 devices the price will be arround 600$ and if we will buy 20 devices the proce will be ~400$ per device.
Guys I am talking about devices with warnties from HTC not a fake one that you can find in 200$...
Sorry for my english....
seems nice idea
It does seem like an excellent idea in principle, but in practice any supplier providing group purchasing would want to deal with one purchaser only.
That would then mean one individual in the group having to bear the cost and the risk of anyone dropping out of the group after committing to purchase. I can't see too many people volunteering for that.
I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but it would require a high degree of co-operation and trust.
Does that even work?
Gustopher said:
It does seem like an excellent idea in principle, but in practice any supplier providing group purchasing would want to deal with one purchaser only.
That would then mean one individual in the group having to bear the cost and the risk of anyone dropping out of the group after committing to purchase. I can't see too many people volunteering for that.
I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but it would require a high degree of co-operation and trust.
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I have done this before, if we will organize 20-30 people I think that every seller will work with us.
The committing will be done - or let's say this way, the supplier will charge and send the devices only if we will meet the agreement, I guess we can only try.
This is a big community, and I hope that togethre we can arange a good price for unlock devices...
Who is the provider of the phones? Do you know already?
What if the customers live in different countries? How does that work?
Ummm... 20 units for ~$400 each? I think this may be highly optomistic as I'm pretty sure most of the distributors don't get it that low.
If you have a reliable source who can, and is willing to supply that I'll take the risk and buy 20 myself to help get things going!
seems like a good idea. was thinking about the same thing before i got mine.
I was able to bargain my unit for $850 including shipping from 2 sellers on ebay (they were selling it for over $900). then i bought it from one. They might offer better price for group purchase. I also got 10% bing cashback, 4% ebay cashback and 3% mrrebates cashback bringing down my price to $700. fedex is delivering my unit today. let me know if you want me to check with the sellers..
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here4info said:
seems like a good idea. was thinking about the same thing before i got mine.
I was able to bargain my unit for $850 including shipping from 2 sellers on ebay (they were selling it for over $900). then i bought it from one. They might offer better price for group purchase. I also got 10% bing cashback, 4% ebay cashback and 3% mrrebates cashback bringing down my price to $700. fedex is delivering my unit today. let me know if you want me to check with the sellers..
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Please verify with your seller for 10 units, 20 units & 30 units - thanks for your help.
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Who is the provider of the phones? Do you know already?
What if the customers live in different countries? How does that work?
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I don't know yet, I will start to work on it this week, I will coontact the follwoing:
http://www.google.com/products?q=htc+hd2&aq=f
As I said in the first post, the seller will send each device to different location, we will pay differently for the shiping according to the location of every one that will buy the device.
it's really a bad ideal.
Hoping, though seems to be quite impossible. Providers or sellers might help if ONLY there is benefit for them which is none.
Hahaha where did you find this offer alibaba.xxx or something similar ? all those companies from china are SCAMMERS please stay away!
BTW. Did they promise any handsets gratis?
sounds like a dream.
i work at a shop where we sell HD2.
i know our price that we pay.
and its far more then 400$.
we didnt order 50... we order 700.
so forget about that idea.
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Great news if anyone is interested. I can deliver a Touch HD anywhere in continental US with shipping and insurance for $775.00. Paypal is the only payment method I would like to accept for protection of everyone. This is my way of contributing to this incredible website that has helped me so much over the last couple of years. I need 48 more people.
What's the ETA?
Latest update I have is last week of Nov. They are not getting to the UK till after the 20th.
Any chance of shipping to Australia? If so, will probably take 2.
I would prefer not to because I dont believe paypal verifies outside US. If you give me your address I can see about how much shipping would be.
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I would prefer not to because I dont believe paypal verifies outside US. If you give me your address I can see about how much shipping would be.
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As far as I knew they do. We have eBay Australia and PayPal is part of them now. I do all of my transactions through PayPal. Shipping would be to North Sydney, 2060, Australia. I now also have another friend thinking about getting one. So it could be 3 phones.
Also, no offence but how can you guarantee us that this is genuine?
Would you consider putting it up on Ebay? There's a rebate for buyers going on now, it's at 25% off today (it changes). You have to list it as Buy it Now and use Paypal. I assume you will add a few bucks to the price for listing fees etc.. but it would still cost us clost to $200 less, which would be a great deal, and you will get more people buying it.
Yeah I'd do eBay...
great!! on ebay then
let us know when you have posted on ebay.. even i will be interested..
Please make it a "buy it now" listing or "fixed price" listing, because the coupon is only applicable to those..
thanks.
i called Expansys and mobilecityonline and they have ebay accounts as well and are ready to put it on ebay.. will post more update when i call them tomorrow in the morning..
I'm also game for a Ebay with that discount! Count me in for "one".
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Would you consider putting it up on Ebay? There's a rebate for buyers going on now, it's at 25% off today (it changes). You have to list it as Buy it Now and use Paypal. I assume you will add a few bucks to the price for listing fees etc.. but it would still cost us clost to $200 less, which would be a great deal, and you will get more people buying it.
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Wow -- keep us updated on how to take advantage of this once it is up.
This phone will be PERFECT if they develop a radio for US 3G bands. Hopefully someone here will help with that.
Yeah guys I think I can do ebay but I did not want to since I dont have a solid delivery date yet. In fact no one in the US has yet. I also was really not trying to make much money on these, it was more to just get the devices to the users of this site.ou are more then welcome to contact me via phone or email if you have any questions. I normally do not do end user sales but thought I would try to save you guys some bucks since the markup on this device is pretty big. Let me look into ebay and see if it works out for me.
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Wow -- keep us updated on how to take advantage of this once it is up.
This phone will be PERFECT if they develop a radio for US 3G bands. Hopefully someone here will help with that.
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Dont hold your breath on 3G for us here in the US. Everything I have heard says it is a hardware issue not something that can be fixed with a radio rom or anything like that. But then again no one knows for sure right now. The p3600 was released without gps and then an update enabled the gps so it may be possible. We can keep our fingers crossed.
I live in NJ and I have decided to get this device whenever it is available. So please update on the situation in this post.
eBay or not, I'm still in.
Maybe edit the first post and keep a list of names as you get them and how many each person will be buying so we can see how far to go till we get enough buyers.
Put me down for one now, will confirm later whether I will take more than 1.
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As far as I knew they do. We have eBay Australia and PayPal is part of them now. I do all of my transactions through PayPal. Shipping would be to North Sydney, 2060, Australia. I now also have another friend thinking about getting one. So it could be 3 phones.
Also, no offence but how can you guarantee us that this is genuine?
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I live in Sydney too, and would join in this and make it four in Sydney. However, I will be visiting Singapore in early December, and might be able to get one there, I hope.
So when does the ebay discount code expire? OK let me see how we can do this ebay listing. Maybe a private auction only open to xda members. I need someone to help me keep track of how many people in the us and how many outside. Thanks for everyone willing to help me with the setup of ebay. Hopefully we can get the 50 that we need and then get start cooking and modding the newest toy from hTC.
I wouldn't hold your breath for a US 3G radio rom. If HTC doesn't release a US 3G version (which they said they won't), there simply won't be a US 3G radio rom -- and don't go around mixing roms from other devices!
As for the eBay discount, it's a Microsoft Live cashback promotion. It changes between 10%-30%, but there's no telling what it will be on any given day. A quick google will point you in the right direction.
Also, as fair warning, beware of eBay and Paypal's fees. Anything over US$500 and a decent chunk will get taken out.
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Latest update I have is last week of Nov. They are not getting to the UK till after the 20th.
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Thanks, I will decide in November.
I'm taking shipping from US to Canada at my expense won't be a problem...
I have let my wife know I want this device...now that I have a hard dollar figure, let me throw down my suck-up over the weekend. Keep me in mind, and reach via PM if necessary. I am 85% sure we will be purchasing at least one unit (maybe two...wife and I both have the Raphael).
Thanks
Well, as much as I love the handset itself I'm just not computer savvy enough to make Android do what I want it to. So I thought I'd offer it up here to try and save some money for listing fees before putting it on eBay. As of today I've had it for 1 week. Absolutely no scratches or damage and still has factory plastic cover on the screen. It's currently running modded RC30 v 1.31 with Carbon Glow theme. Comes with original box, instructions, 2 Gb micro SD card, and everything that came from the factory. My price is firm @ $400 USD SHIPPED. Will ship anywhere worldwide *except Africa*. I generally use USPS Priority Mail with insurance. I requested the SIM unlock code from T-Mo about 3 days ago so I expect that to show up any day now. Please reply via PM or email me at [email protected]. Thanks for looking.
*pics were taken several days ago prior to installing new theme*
Check my eBay feedback:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...boids&ftab=AllFeedback&sspagename=STRK:ME:UFS
You might want to lower your price. I bought one off CL almost new with a extra battery, case, box etc for $225. They seem to go for under $300 new.
I'm very well aware of what they're going for on craigslist. My ad is aimed more for those overseas that don't have such easy access to them.
**Mods feel free to lock this thread. I'd prefer private contact if any**
you can get it from ebay, worldwide shipping for less...
http://cgi.ebay.com/LEGALLY-UNLOCKE...3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:3|39:1|240:1307
Stop trying to cheat people and make a fair price.
A brand new Android Dev Phone 1 is only $399 new.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
A brand new Android Dev Phone 1 is only $399 new.
Regards,
Dave
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Stop giving the guy hell on his price. Try to order an ADP1 and set the shipping to Germany and see what happens to the price - It goes over 750USD. Let the free market determine the price.
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Stop giving the guy hell on his price.
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Let the free market determine the price.
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Considering that the OP has firmly set his price, aren't those two statements contradictory? (Note, I don't really mind OP's choice of pricing, just pointing out this funny logical flaw.)
hummmm
i just got one.....black....1 week old unused unwanted upgrade for £230 of ebay here in the u.k
i wish you all the best with selling your G1
sorry i can't lock the thread...if i close the thread...it will drop of the radar...and nobody will see it
I'm not trying to "cheat" anyone. There's nothing dishonest or misleading about my ad. I know for a fact that with my willingness to ship worldwide I will easily get my asking price if I choose to put it on ebay. I simply thought I'd offer it up here first. Clearly, that was a poor decision on my part.
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sorry i can't lock the thread...if i close the thread...it will drop of the radar...and nobody will see it
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Considering the tone of some replies..that's exactly what I was hoping for. I'll simply take this as a lesson learned about this community and take my business elsewhere. Then there will be no need for further editorialization about my character or intentions.
Thank you to those of you with cooler heads that chose not to be a **** about it.
Honestly I think the problem is that you are asking full market value for something that is opened and without warranty.
Think about it, why would you buy a stereo from some guy off the street even if he was a friend of a friend, if you could get it for the same price from the company which not only guarantee's it but offers 30 day return policy and a manufactures warranty?
Honestly I have no problem with you selling it here, it isn't against the rules. But I think asking 400 for the phone is steep especially considering this is the market where we know what it is worth and how to find them.
I don't see what I'm doing as being any different than what people are doing with the Iphone 3g. You can get a brand new one with contract for $200 from AT&T. But if you've ever tried to buy one outside of AT&T you'd see that no one's willing to let an immaculate one go for less than $400 or so generally. Add on an unlock and jailbreak and that can take it up much higher still. Is it "cheating" to want to capitalize on supply and demand circumstances? An item is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. If no one here thinks my phone is worth $400..that's fine with me. I know there are others that would gladly pay what I'm asking. Obviously, they just don't frequent this site.
I never said you were cheating I was explaining why I think they are pissed off.
Your iPhone vs G1 complaint is like Apples vs Oranges. They are in no way similar. The iPhone can not be bought unless it has a contract. Of course I would pay more for a non contracted phone, but the G1 is 400 with no contract. Wheter it is unlocked and jailbroken is irrelevant since the iPhone can't be software unlocked only jailbroken.
The only criticism I can give for me personally is that I thought you would have at least given xda members a discount. I mean what is 20-40 dollars gonna hurt?
I agree with you in that someone would pay 400 dollars... but I also believe that if you were really trying to help a developer get one you would be giving us a little discount from what you sell it on ebay. But that is just me.
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It is about $700 on Amazon and the best price being $675. Plus the shipping cost.
Does anyone have better offers?
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Unlocked-..._1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1270388078&sr=8-1
I am planning to get these phones for a cheaper price and ship it worldwide, so am taking in everyones opinion.
Why not buy the T9193? It's about the same price, as the T8585, PLUS you can get 3G Speeds, on other networks, like AT&T, with it.
Am not buying them for personal use.
Its for selling at a better price than Amazon and other sites
You'd never be able to expect as much as a retail store would. After all with a retail store there is a comeback for warranty etc.
I think your main thing is going to be beating T-Mobile's price, as this is where many US users are getting their's.
I paid $650 CDN.
Can offer unlocked brand new phone with all accessories at $600, should be a very good price
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Can offer unlocked brand new phone with all accessories at $600, should be a very good price
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selling mine for 500 euros. unlocked!
I got mine the first week so it was pricey-959.00 plus overnight fedex-on Amazon. Well worth every penny
digitalhater said:
selling mine for 500 euros. unlocked!
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Expensive m8
ferraripassion said:
Can offer unlocked brand new phone with all accessories at $600, should be a very good price
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Only $50 more from Expansys
http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=188312
If anyone wants to buy let me know
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If anyone wants to buy let me know
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If anyone wants to buy, take a look at ferraripassions typical business practices here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657751
read THAT before deciding to send this goob any money!
ferraripassion,
If you continue to ignore sending me, either, my unlock code, or a refund, I promise to make, hounding, you, my new "hobby".
You can expect me to, daily, hunt down every post you make and reply, with a link to this thread, to warn others of the folly of wasting money, by sending it to you.
On days you do not post I will look for all unlock related threads, linking to this thread, warning others of your tactics.
The admins may not have a problem with you preying on members here, but I will make, as many members, as possible, aware of your antics.
Choose, for yourself, which way this will go from now on.
Sincerely,
KB
"ferraripassion" finally DID come across for me. It took some "work"... He claims he sent the code last night.. not quite the "2 minutes" that were brandished, but I did receive it, via forum posts, nonetheless, So I wasn't "ripped off."
Just setting the record clear (for ANYONE who actually cares).
From XDA's own marketplace, I got it for £310 (about $470). It was a week old, unlocked, perfect condition, with all accessories/box, and this was end of Feb.
I paid 630€ for mine, came with a 2gb memcard ...
It's only money...
1. t9193 model 1st week it was released... $917.00
2. Overnight / weekend shipping... $56.00
3. Screen shield & protective case custom fitted... $40.00
4. Attracting a crowd of gaukers and showing off the device features at the mall as they fitted my device...
*** PRICELESS! ***
Got mine off of AU.Ebay
$680.00 shipped to Florida
T9193 new sealed
It is sitting at LAX right now until Customs figures out I ain't gonna smoke it!
Tmobile
ebay - $579
ship $39.00 (LA to Calgary)
$618 usd
in customs........
$878.74 total from PersonalDigital for my T9193 back in Jan.
Clove sent me an email stating that if they get to 600 orders for the Z3 Compact before launch, they'll include a Roxfit case and Sony AN401 car charger free with every order.
If you're still in the market for this and haven't pulled the trigger yet, keep this in mind. Sounds like they have over 400 orders already, but there's only 10 days left!
Edit: Here's a link with more details http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/09/16/a...ia-z3-compact/
Do we need some kind of code to "order" is it "automatic" as you say? There's no mention on their site or blog.
According to the email it's automatic, and they will add it to my order if the condition is met.
You can email [email protected] for more info if you'd like.
Edit: Here's a link that was created when I clicked view email in browser. Perhaps you'll be able to see that as well:
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Edit 2: As quickly as I did that, they updated their site. You'll see a general statement if you click on the Z3C, but here's a link to their blog with more details:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/09/16/another-special-offer-sony-xperia-z3-compact/
Wow - talk about making a good deal even better. I've put up a Reddit submission for it: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2gkf75/clove_offering_case_and_car_charger_if_they_hit/
Hopefully that'll get a bit of interest.
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Wow - talk about making a good deal even better. I've put up a Reddit submission for it: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2gkf75/clove_offering_case_and_car_charger_if_they_hit/
Hopefully that'll get a bit of interest.
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Yes indeed! I'm pretty excited to get the phone alone, but would certainly welcome some free accessories!
Thanks for all your information.
I pre-ordered. I recommend that North Americans use PayPal as a payment option - I tried a direct card payment and it failed. I seem to recall having issues with Clove and direct card payments in the past.
Now Handtec are saying that they're going to offer a guaranteed pre-order bundle. This is the start of a price/extras war I hope http://www.handtec.co.uk/sony-xperia-z3-compact-16gb-black-1288-5849.html
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... I tried a direct card payment and it failed. I seem to recall having issues with Clove and direct card payments in the past.
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More likely it's your card issuer; they will decline an international charge to prevent fraud if you don't regularly make such purchases. After calling the bank and verifying that you did attempt the charge they will release the hold and payment will go through.
Edit: BTW, Handtec is matching the free accessories offer for all pre-orders, no minimum order limit.
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Is there any way to get the green variant though? Seems Carphonewarehouse is the only one that sells it but they don't ship to the U.S. :/
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More likely it's your card issuer; they will decline an international charge to prevent fraud if you don't regularly make such purchases. After calling the bank and verifying that you did attempt the charge they will release the hold and payment will go through.
Edit: BTW, Handtec is matching the free accessories offer for all pre-orders, no minimum order limit.
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I never get issuer referrals other than with Clove. It's consistent. I spend A LOT online including big-ticket travel etc. Anyway, it worked fine with PayPal, so again, that's what I recommend.
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Thanks for all your information.
I pre-ordered. I recommend that North Americans use PayPal as a payment option - I tried a direct card payment and it failed. I seem to recall having issues with Clove and direct card payments in the past.
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Yeah, my AMEX was declined, so I used it through PayPal as well. Good tip!
Just posted at RFD: http://forums.redflagdeals.com/clove-uk-z3-compact-d5803-500-usd-550-cdn-free-stuff-1556567/
My guess is that now that Handtec is offering an unspecified accessories bundle with "no strings attached" (e.g. no minimum pre-order qty), Clove is going to have to make good on that even if don't hit the 600 target. We'd never know if they really hit it or not, so it's easy for them to just say they've hit the mark.
Very true, it is very bold of them to throw that out there. Could put a bad taste in the mouth of everyone if they don't make good on this offer. This is my first ever international phone order, so I'm very hopeful of a smooth process in it.
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Very true, it is very bold of them to throw that out there. Could put a bad taste in the mouth of everyone if they don't make good on this offer. This is my first ever international phone order, so I'm very hopeful of a smooth process in it.
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Oh, Clove will definitely hit their mark, either in reality or make believe.
Seriously, does anyone honestly believe that they've sold 'exactly' 400 units as stated in the blog post (not 407, or maybe 386?), or that they will notify us immediately when they hit 600 units?
Their goal is to use the enticement of some free accessories to get the pre-order buyers to do a little advertising leg work for them. Nothing wrong with that so long as we call it what it is, and the accessories would be nice!
Handtec obviously had to ante up, just as they did by beating Clove's price drop by a small margin, and they took the option of making them available to all pre-orders, probably betting that they will receive some orders from people that want the sure thing.
In the Netherlands you get a Sony MDR-ZX750 headset (worth €150) 00 when pre-ordered, not mather where you buy.
Spoke to handtek other day regarding potential delivery date... Although he couldn't divulge.. He did accidently let off that they've sold 300 red z3c already... They must have clocked way over 600 on total.
There website now says expected 22nd September... Yes :thumbup:
Pre-ordered mine now from Clove. (I hope they don't shaft me on the offer)
I've ordered my Z3C through Clove, and would have done regardless of the accessories bundle. They are a customer focused company and deserve as much business as they can get in my opinion.
Rest assured they'll go above and beyond to make sure all pre-orders receive the accessories, even if they don't reach the target (unlikely).
Handtec Vs Clove
So is everyone buying through Clove or Handtec?
I've never purchased a phone online like this before, so please excuse my trepidation. What are the Pros and Cons of purchasing with each company?
Does anyone have any experience with either of these companies? Who would have better customer support for an International (South African) customer like me? Especially if something goes wrong.
Lastly, I imagine both companies are offering similar accessory bundles together with the purchase. Are there any known differences yet?
Thanks guys! Any input is greatly appreciated!
It goes without saying buying on ebay can be risky but I wanted to post a warning about a particular individual who keeps posting and or hacking the ebay acts posting pixel xl 128gb for sale with the same picture. It seems ebay doesnt gas and allows this person to consistantly repost via different accounts that are probably hacked. The main mo is a pixel xl 128gb for cheap bewtween 500-600$. Obviously the price raises eyebrows because the going rate on ebay is 900-1200$ from a typical scalper, but the perp keeps using acts that appear to have 99-100% fb that are long time users/older acts. Thing is... these sellers, are usually sellers of small items like coins and other knick knacks and or have not been active for a while. Im sure most of you are aware but thought id put out this psa. The other issue is this idiot keeps using the same image fir every hacked act they use. W/E i see this i report it, it comes down and is back up in a few days, with a dif act, but same mo: 100%fb, long time user and usually inactive or sells small items with no history of high end phones or anything. If its too good to be true... With that said hopefully Google restocks by march or so i really like this phone. The pic below is from the ebay scam. If you buy from ebay be very carefull because this ahole is not the only one. Please if you see any listings on ebay with this image report it.
Paying by paypal and with ebays 30 day guarantee your guaranteed to get your money back but yes it can hold your money up for days. Years past the buyer would be left holding the bag but now a days paypal holds the money on new sellers until they provide tracking and the buyer has to post that they received the item and all is well so I have no idea how they could get away with this type of fraud anymore because paypal will pull the funds back from their paypal account so they are basically wasting their time and they get nothing.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/money-back-guarantee.html
What's covered
Most transactions on eBay.com are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee.
Covered
Purchases are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee when all of the following are true:
An item isn't received or it isn't as described in the listing.
A buyer reports that they didn't receive an item or requests a return within the eBay Money Back Guarantee timelines.
The buyer made the purchase on eBay.com via checkout or an eBay invoice with one of the following payment methods:
PayPal
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Credit card or debit card
The item was paid for in a single payment (including payments with PayPal Credit).
If the listing was a live auction by an auction house seller, the buyer made the purchase on eBay.com and paid by any payment method, the purchase is covered as long as the buyer provides a copy of the seller invoice and proof of payment. Items sold through Sotheby's are excluded.
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Buyer remorse or any reason other than not receiving an item or receiving an item that isn’t as described in the listing (see the seller’s return policy for return options).
Items damaged during pick-up or shipping or not delivered when the buyer arranges pick-up or shipping of the item (for instance, the buyer arranges freight).
Duplicate claims through other resolution methods.
Items shipped to another address after original delivery.
Vehicles (see eBay Vehicle Protection), Real Estate, Websites & Business for Sale, Classified Ads, services, and some Business Equipment categories (see eBay Business Equipment Purchase Protection).
Items sold through Sotheby's.
Items purchased on half.com, eBay Wholesale Deals, or eBay Classifieds.
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Paying by paypal and with ebays 30 day guarantee your guaranteed to get your money back but yes it can hold your money up for days. Years past the buyer would be left holding the bag but now a days paypal holds the money on new sellers until they provide tracking and the buyer has to post that they received the item and all is well so I have no idea how they could get away with this type of fraud anymore because paypal will pull the funds back from their paypal account so they are basically wasting their time and they get nothing.
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/money-back-guarantee.html
What's covered
Most transactions on eBay.com are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee.
Covered
Purchases are covered by the eBay Money Back Guarantee when all of the following are true:
An item isn't received or it isn't as described in the listing.
A buyer reports that they didn't receive an item or requests a return within the eBay Money Back Guarantee timelines.
The buyer made the purchase on eBay.com via checkout or an eBay invoice with one of the following payment methods:
PayPal
PayPal Credit
Credit card or debit card
The item was paid for in a single payment (including payments with PayPal Credit).
If the listing was a live auction by an auction house seller, the buyer made the purchase on eBay.com and paid by any payment method, the purchase is covered as long as the buyer provides a copy of the seller invoice and proof of payment. Items sold through Sotheby's are excluded.
Not covered
Buyer remorse or any reason other than not receiving an item or receiving an item that isn’t as described in the listing (see the seller’s return policy for return options).
Items damaged during pick-up or shipping or not delivered when the buyer arranges pick-up or shipping of the item (for instance, the buyer arranges freight).
Duplicate claims through other resolution methods.
Items shipped to another address after original delivery.
Vehicles (see eBay Vehicle Protection), Real Estate, Websites & Business for Sale, Classified Ads, services, and some Business Equipment categories (see eBay Business Equipment Purchase Protection).
Items sold through Sotheby's.
Items purchased on half.com, eBay Wholesale Deals, or eBay Classifieds.
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That's another sign its a scam. He doesn't accept paypal only CC :laugh:
aholeinthewor1d said:
That's another sign its a scam. He doesn't accept paypal only CC :laugh:
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Many accept credit cards but I would not unless they have high positive feedback as a seller and not just positive as a buyer and I would never give them CC info over the phone or email only through secure ebay checkout. People can still file a chargeback with their credit card company but getting the money back can take months.
My thinking is many deals can be legit I know by personal experience, but yes fraudulent sellers can be weeded out if you investigate before hitting confirm bid or buy it now.
High positive fb isnt always a sure thing; this particular scam targets older acts WITH high positive fb. The thing is you have to make sure that what the seller is selling makes sense. If you see a 1oz gold bar for 300$ (going rate is about 1200) and the seller has 3600 sales @ 100% fb but all hes ever sold was buttons for 1$ run away, run away fast. And thats exactly what this slimeball does, he hacks high sales 100% fb acts and posts the pixel xl for a killer price, chesper even than the Google store.
freakboy13 said:
It goes without saying buying on ebay can be risky but I wanted to post a warning about a particular individual who keeps posting and or hacking the ebay acts posting pixel xl 128gb for sale with the same picture. It seems ebay doesnt gas and allows this person to consistantly repost via different accounts that are probably hacked. The main mo is a pixel xl 128gb for cheap bewtween 500-600$. Obviously the price raises eyebrows because the going rate on ebay is 900-1200$ from a typical scalper, but the perp keeps using acts that appear to have 99-100% fb that are long time users/older acts. Thing is... these sellers, are usually sellers of small items like coins and other knick knacks and or have not been active for a while. Im sure most of you are aware but thought id put out this psa. The other issue is this idiot keeps using the same image fir every hacked act they use. W/E i see this i report it, it comes down and is back up in a few days, with a dif act, but same mo: 100%fb, long time user and usually inactive or sells small items with no history of high end phones or anything. If its too good to be true... With that said hopefully Google restocks by march or so i really like this phone. The pic below is from the ebay scam. If you buy from ebay be very carefull because this ahole is not the only one. Please if you see any listings on ebay with this image report it.
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I actually messaged that guy at [email protected] and agreed to a deal for two pixel xl 128gb for JUST $1200
He then proceeds in sending me an invoice which I have to pay via bank transfer. Everything looks like it's perfectly covered by Ebay and is sent by Ebay ([email protected], looks pretty fake to me, but don't know, attached a screenshot)
I then asked him why they don't accept paypal, so I'm covered.
"For the moment we can't accept payment trough PayPal. The payment must be made through Bank Transfer. eBay will be third party in this transaction and will guarantee for both of us. The money will be secured by eBay until you will receive the package. 14 days of inspection - the inspection period starts once you have the items in your hands. This means you have 14 days to decide whether I get the money or not. In case the items are not as I described them, the transaction is canceled and eBay will refund full amount. If the items are as described, the transaction is completed and I will receive the money from eBay. Let me know if I should keep this items reserved for you."
I really don't know if all lies or not, but I obviously canceled the deal.
Wire transfer? No WAY. This is without a doubt a scam and good luck getting eBay to stand behind this despite what they claim. This guy is a scam and anyone who buys from him gets what they deserve. How many more red flags do people need? If you do a wire transfer does the recipient know your account number? I wonder is that is the scam, to get your bank account number.
So the seller is in NY yet the bank is in Spain and the owner of that account is listed as Florina Adriana Barbu. Not suspicious at all
Best guess, if you order and get anything at all they will have blocked IMEI. Likely stolen. My feeling is you won't get anything but a lot of trouble.
Bad English is another sign that this is likely a scam.
Mike02z said:
Wire transfer? No WAY. This is without a doubt a scam and good luck getting eBay to stand behind this despite what they claim. This guy is a scam and anyone who buys from him gets what they deserve. How many more red flags do people need? If you do a wire transfer does the recipient know your account number? I wonder is that is the scam, to get your bank account number.
So the seller is in NY yet the bank is in Spain and the owner of that account is listed as Florina Adriana Barbu. Not suspicious at all
Best guess, if you order and get anything at all they will have blocked IMEI. Likely stolen. My feeling is you won't get anything but a lot of trouble.
Bad English is another sign that this is likely a scam.
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Yep. It looks pretty legit, though, if you don't have much experience and are hyped for the device. So I believe they really do have success sometimes.
Cards-ebay.com is not eBay. It is a fake address to simulate real ones. Only . should pretext the website name as cards.eBay.com would be valid. Here is the whois for cards-ebay.com https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=Cards-ebay.com looks very shady.
jjayzx said:
Cards-ebay.com is not eBay. It is a fake address to simulate real ones. Only . should pretext the website name as cards.eBay.com would be valid. Here is the whois for cards-ebay.com https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=Cards-ebay.com looks very shady.
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Good catch! That domain is being hidden and in the name of a proxy service. This would be a sure fire way to lose 600 bucks and maybe more if they get your account number which is what I suspect they are really phising for.
Use Swappa. Been using using to both buy and sell phones for years. No issues for me.
Mike02z said:
Good catch! That domain is being hidden and in the name of a proxy service. This would be a sure fire way to lose 600 bucks and maybe more if they get your account number which is what I suspect they are really phising for.
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They actually want you to buy two devices minimum, so you lose at least $1200
chazall1 said:
Use Swappa. Been using using to both buy and sell phones for years. No issues for me.
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But Swappa never has the phones I'm looking for..
D4rkSoRRoW said:
They actually want you to buy two devices minimum, so you lose at least $1200
But Swappa never has the phones I'm looking for..
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And neither does eBay it appears.
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As long as you always pay with Paypal on ebay you will alway get your money back as with paypal new sellers will get their money held by paypal until the buyer leaves positive feedback or confirms to paypal that they received the item and its as described but you still have a 30 day money back guarantee with ebay.
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And neither does eBay it appears.
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Nah, Ebay definitely has them. Not the first time I'm searching for devices there
D4rkSoRRoW said:
Nah, Ebay definitely has them. Not the first time I'm searching for devices there
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Yeah ebay has the biggest variety and you can find them cheap many times. I have found the latest models just out for as low as $200 one a woman used her upgrade then I think it was too advanced for her so she went back to her iphone lol, she just wanted her $199.99 she paid back so I got a heck of a deal. Some times you have to search a bit but it pays off.
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Yeah ebay has the biggest variety and you can find them cheap many times. I have found the latest models just out for as low as $200 one a woman used her upgrade then I think it was too advanced for her so she went back to her iphone lol, she just wanted her $199.99 she paid back so I got a heck of a deal. Some times you have to search a bit but it pays off.
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Woah!! That's damn nice. I bought a XL 128gb for 800 euros. That's already 300 euros cheaper than new
D4rkSoRRoW said:
Woah!! That's damn nice. I bought a XL 128gb for 800 euros. That's already 300 euros cheaper than new
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Oh sorry I did not mean this phone, I meant phones in the past. Plus the deals are best a couple months after the device is out. The little old ladies dont buy at first release usually lol. The techies only buy early or the ones trying to profit, so it takes a good month or two after release to see good deals, or if the competition has a new phone come out right after the phone you want that helps get good deals too.
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Oh sorry I did not mean this phone, I meant phones in the past. Plus the deals are best a couple months after the device is out. The little old ladies dont buy at first release usually lol. The techies only buy early or the ones trying to profit, so it takes a good month or two after release to see good deals, or if the competition has a new phone come out right after the phone you want that helps get good deals too.
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Well, the Pixel got released in october, so that's good three months now.
D4rkSoRRoW said:
Well, the Pixel got released in october, so that's good three months now.
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Yes but they have been on back order keeping prices very high. The black 128gb pixel xl's were selling on ebay for over $1000.00