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Just.. unbelievable.
Engadget has close to ZERO fact checking.. and it almost seems like they're actually out to smear the N1 altogether! Check out this rediculous post from the 'engineers' at Motorola, claiming that drawing crossing lines on a device is a good test of a touchscreen's quality. Look how wavy the N1 is! Worst of the bunch, right? Not so. Here's a screenshot from my fiance's phone:
http://www.cartoonmonkey.com/nexus.jpg
Read the article here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/moto-gives-straight-advice-on-smartphone-touchscreen-quality/
And my reply here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/...tphone-touchscreen-quality/comments/24574769/
The other post that bothers me, is Engadget's stance on the flash 10 player coming to the N1:
Be sure to check out the animated ad for dog food to fully realize what a future of Flash-capable devices will really look like.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-previewed-with-flash-10-1-beta-careful-what-you-wish/
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It's MOTO, not Motorola.
its funny that they post pictures but no video, ok we have the video of the first 3, but what about the video of the N1 getting doodled on... are they all using the same app? (that goes for the android phone)
why are we sposed to take their word for it that one pic was taking with slow, full finger motions while the other was tip and medium speed?
i used to go to engadget for all my tech reviews before i buy things but after pickin up this godsend of a phone, i have noticed how little validity or credibility their site has... still shots do not prove actions of precision...
this is an advanced world we live in now, engadget can make a video to bash androids browser speeds yet it cant make a video to prove this simple line test? plz...
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Just.. unbelievable.
Engadget has close to ZERO fact checking.. and it almost seems like they're actually out to smear the N1 altogether! Check out this rediculous post from the 'engineers' at Motorola, claiming that drawing crossing lines on a device is a good test of a touchscreen's quality. Look how wavy the N1 is! Worst of the bunch, right? Not so. Here's a screenshot from my fiance's phone:
http://www.cartoonmonkey.com/nexus.jpg
Read the article here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/moto-gives-straight-advice-on-smartphone-touchscreen-quality/
And my reply here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/...tphone-touchscreen-quality/comments/24574769/
The other post that bothers me, is Engadget's stance on the flash 10 player coming to the N1:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-previewed-with-flash-10-1-beta-careful-what-you-wish/
Vote my comment up! Don't let Engadget get away with this bogus "reporting"..!
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Nice work setting these Id10T's straight! I can't wait for your video!
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The other post that bothers me, is Engadget's stance on the flash 10 player coming to the N1:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-previewed-with-flash-10-1-beta-careful-what-you-wish/
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I just read the flash article on engadget and really? the guy specifically said that 80% of the video online uses flash, HOW ON GODS GREEN EARTH COULD FLASH OVERALL BE NEGATIVE?! This baffles the hell out of me, granted there will prolly be more ads on our browsers but i really dont care because having flash for other things is HUGE!
pros- 80% of online video will now be viewable
-sites that use flash entirely will now be viewable
-flash games can now be played
-flash can be integrated 1000 other ways with practical uses
cons- ads on websites
-may be a resource hog down? (doubt it though)
i say the pros definitely outweigh the cons...
It's funny...the Nexus One launch have brought out the true colors of Engadget, BGR, and others. Looks like Google and HTC are doing their job! That and I have lost all respect for Engadget and BGR.
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It's funny...the Nexus One launch have brought out the true colors of Engadget, BGR, and others. Looks like Google and HTC are doing their job! That and I have lost all respect for Engadget and BGR.
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A lot of us have known Engadget are a bunch of iphone licking fcuk heads for quite some time.
Once they get their vibrating iphones out of their respective a$$es, they might see straight again....
Its really disappointing. They also dished the HD2 which I currently use (altho I have a Nexus 1 on the way) and its truely an awesome winmo phone - and much better than an iphone!
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A lot of us have known Engadget are a bunch of iphone licking fcuk heads for quite some time.
Once they get their vibrating iphones out of their respective a$$es, they might see straight again....
Its really disappointing. They also dished the HD2 which I currently use (altho I have a Nexus 1 on the way) and its truely an awesome winmo phone - and much better than an iphone!
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Don't get me wrong, I love the HD2 as well; however, most people would rate the iphone higher strictly due to the OSes. I've never personally had a problem with WinMo, but it hasn't exactly been forward moving.
I'm still laughing at them about the 802.11N "reporting".
...breaking news...Nexus One doesn't support 802.11N...breaking news....
And they didn't try it? Simple test, would have shown they were wrong and it does support 802.11N, but that would not have pumped up the page views.
I personally dont have a problem with people liking their respective phones. If you like the iPhone thats great. If you like the HD2, thats fine. If you like the G1, thats great too. Hell, if you like the Motorola DynaTAC 8000X then thats just peachy.
What really pisses me off is when you try to use incorrect logic, flawed tests, and biased opinions to try and prove to me that the 3g signal in a Motorola DynaTAC 8000X is better than that of the HD2 (lets just say). This is what Engadget and many other reviewers have done, who after all this bull**** with biased opinions and flawed data are no longer considered reviewers in my opinion.
And it also pisses me off that because most people are ignorant, they take these reviewers words as truth and instead of forming there own decision, testing or doing more research already have a bad taste in their mouth. People should be like the recent TechCrunch article and and realize that just because you are not used to it and that it is different from the norm DOES NOT MAKE IT FLAWED, WRONG OR BROKEN!!!! IT JUST MAKES IT DIFFERENT WHETHER THAT BE FOR GOOD OR BAD IS FOR THE USER TO DECIDE!!!
CrApple must be paying them good money for messing things up with N1 launch. I really hate these fan boy srories poping up every day. I've got HD2 Bold2 and expecting N1 on monday. Every device has its own strength and weakness.
I think iToy user think they have best device and it will be forever. They have been deceived by Apple and whore member of on line media. New hardware of iToy can't be jailbreak any more, game over for now.
cartoonmonkey said:
Just.. unbelievable.
Engadget has close to ZERO fact checking.. and it almost seems like they're actually out to smear the N1 altogether! Check out this rediculous post from the 'engineers' at Motorola, claiming that drawing crossing lines on a device is a good test of a touchscreen's quality. Look how wavy the N1 is! Worst of the bunch, right? Not so. Here's a screenshot from my fiance's phone:
http://www.cartoonmonkey.com/nexus.jpg
Read the article here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/moto-gives-straight-advice-on-smartphone-touchscreen-quality/
And my reply here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/09/...tphone-touchscreen-quality/comments/24574769/
The other post that bothers me, is Engadget's stance on the flash 10 player coming to the N1:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/nexus-one-previewed-with-flash-10-1-beta-careful-what-you-wish/
Vote my comment up! Don't let Engadget get away with this bogus "reporting"..!
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This is preposterous. First the web browser speed test between iPhone, Droid, and N1 where the iPhone had clearly visited the page before and was just loading from cache and now this? What a complete joke.
Please stop bashing Engadget for nothing...
Engadget post doesn't say anything about the performance from the iPhone or the Nexus One. Engadget just posted an article from MOTO, without making any conclusions. And, if you read the post at MOTO, then you will know that the Nexus One preformed very good (the same as your picture shows) if you press 'medium' on your touchscreen.
So, please, stop bashing Engadget and read the posts good en entirely!
Wtf. Don't these people have anything better to do than doodling lines? Why are they spending countless hours to rip a phone?
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Please stop bashing Engadget for nothing...
Engadget post doesn't say anything about the performance from the iPhone or the Nexus One. Engadget just posted an article from MOTO, without making any conclusions. And, if you read the post at MOTO, then you will know that the Nexus One preformed very good (the same as your picture shows) if you press 'medium' on your touchscreen.
So, please, stop bashing Engadget and read the posts good en entirely!
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You can't say that engadget hasn't exhibited a clear bias. Their browser test was clearly rigged. That generated a lot of bad press. Almost every aspect of their review focuses on the tiny contrivances they found instead of anything positive. Literally, the phone is twice as fast (almost) as any of the other smart phones out there, yet they could hardly find even a single good thing to say about it.
Everything was written from a "the iphone has been doing it better for years now" perspective.
I tried this myself as well, and my lines came out pin straight even moving very slowly. Engadget is really a bunch of apple fanboys, even from their initial review of the Nexus.
Ive had my girlfriends Iphone 3Gs and my Nexus side by side, and in all aspects I'd rather use the nexus.
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You can't say that engadget hasn't exhibited a clear bias. Their browser test was clearly rigged. That generated a lot of bad press. Almost every aspect of their review focuses on the tiny contrivances they found instead of anything positive. Literally, the phone is twice as fast (almost) as any of the other smart phones out there, yet they could hardly find even a single good thing to say about it.
Everything was written from a "the iphone has been doing it better for years now" perspective.
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The browser test was indeed very poor and totally useless because they only use one website, Engadget.com, instead of multiple websites like it use to be. And yes, I have seen better reviews then this review... But, to say that all the articles on Engadget are 'crap' because they are iPhone fanboys is a little overdone.
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The browser test was indeed very poor and totally useless because they only use one website, Engadget.com, instead of multiple websites like it use to be. And yes, I have seen better reviews then this review... But, to say that all the articles on Engadget are 'crap' because they are iPhone fanboys is a little overdone.
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No its precisely what it is..crap.
Its liek asking a redskins fan to break down Dallas Cowboy performances.
These guys clearly have an agenda which means the product is irrelevant. Once that happens things become tainted and "crap" is the label most appropriate.
The N1 is becoming the most hated phone to ever come out. It's amazing at how tech sites and apple fans are trying to make this phone look bad. Just admit it, you really do want one. We all know you do.
Got my N1 2010/01/07
Absolutely love it.
My N1 brings all the boys to the yard,
And their like
It's better than yours,
Damn right it's better than yours,
I can teach you,
But I have to charge
Tech radar did a very good full review of the Legend!!
Some questions have been answered for me:
-VGA camera video recording instead of CIF
-Very nice under direct sunlight opposed to the N1
Here's the Review: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/htc-legend-675421/review?artc_pg=1
Excellent find! Thanks!
I can't wait to get my hands on it when it starts shipping in April!
A couple of concerns I have based on that review:
- can't edit office docs natively
- non-hotswappable microSD
- battery life concern
- buggy wifi and bluetooth connections: I hope this is just because the device was an early non-retail build.
Also the review had the following to say about text-reflow in the browser:
One slight downside - we've let iPhone users play with the HTC Legend (we know, sacrilege) and they've said the text resizing takes longer than on their phone - if this doesn't apply to you, we doubt you'll notice it.
To that I say, "What?!". I wasn't aware the iPhone Safari browser did text-reflow at all! My iPod Touch certainly doesn't! Those fanboys are just sour that something better is out there...
About battery life with ALL new cell phones since 2008 we need at least 6 weeks of battery cycles before saying if it's bad or not, Nobody can judge out of the box if the battery is good or not.
When I bought 2 months ago my SE Aino the battery had to be recharged overnight on first week and I am not a heavy user...now 2 months later the battery is lasting 3 days and half. This experience was the same with my ex-Satio and ex-5800, so I think we don't have to worry about Legend's battery!
The review also complain a little on screen resolution while we know that it's 320x480 on a 3.2'' surface while the iphone (which has a very good reputation for its screen rendering) is the same resolution on a larger surface 3.5'', so the Legend beat down the iphone all the way in this field. And yes HTC could have used the wide empty space under the screen for an additonal 0.2'' but they didn't
What the review doesn't say that's interesting is the ringtone volume
There are still some questions this Review doesn't answer:
- Will the Black version be released in April? (Better for scratches)
- What will be the capacity of the SD card?
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/0,...0.htm?s_cid=82
http://gizmodo.com/5488019/htc-legen...eels-expensive
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-legend-review-0876928/
kkhalil76 said:
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/0,39030106,49305224,00.htm
http://gizmodo.com/5488019/htc-legen...eels-expensive
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-legend-review-0876928/
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Great finds! Thanks!
I'm not sure if it's good or bad that nobody else mentioned the bluetooth/wifi issues that Tech Radar's review had. Either it was a one-off thing or the other reviewers didn't test those features.
Btw, that CNET review ticked me off. The reviewer sounded like an Apple fanboy with phrases like this:
Android is still clunkier and geekier than the iPhone operating system but, if you can't live without features like Flash support, the Legend is a fantastic alternative to Apple's handset.
Then I looked up another article that she wrote and it all makes sense.
Yep Apple bought tons of ''tech journalists'' since the Ipod and Iphone.
The only thing that I didn't like is that the paint can scratch easily, and no word yet about a coming release of the black edition,ok the Legend is ''Alu inside'' but I personally preffer the brushed metal of Hero over the ''cheap'' paint
I'm not so sure you guys are right about cnet's reviewer, if you've read a few more reviews and listened to the cnet podcast you'd know that she's a big fan of android.
It's not a bad thing that android is labeled geekier than the iphone, since the iphone is the dumb blond of the smartphone world, and that will always have more mass appeal
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I'm not so sure you guys are right about cnet's reviewer, if you've read a few more reviews and listened to the cnet podcast you'd know that she's a big fan of android.
It's not a bad thing that android is labeled geekier than the iphone, since the iphone is the dumb blond of the smartphone world, and that will always have more mass appeal
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You're right. It was probably unfair of me to label her as a fanboy since I don't know much about her. But it just seems unprofessional when you're reviewing a product and you make the effort to squeeze in little praises for the iPhone...
"...reminding us of the first-generation iPhone -- the most attractive version so far."
"...holding your finger on a page reveals a magnifying glass that helps you select and copy text, which is a handy feature cribbed from the iPhone."
"...the Android Market. It's not as well-organised as the iPhone's App Store,..."
Well, like it or not, and I personally don't, the iphone has provided a very slick user experience for the first time in the mobile world.
I don't like all its limitations and have no interest in buying any apple prodcuts, but there you have it. And that's why you almost can't read a single review without an iphone comparison, despite many reviewers missing the point that it's not an apples to apples comaprison, that if the apple offered what andriod does, it would also be 'geekier'.
I think Andoid's challenge is to move closer to looking like a dumb blond in terms of the user experience and everything working togetger seamlessly (including a music solution etc) but still offering the hardware variety and software freedom...
Review from Engadget.
This is the 2nd review that mentions the device's wifi reception issues
I wish they would have tested the bluetooth reception....
Wifi can be boosted by a FW upgrade but how Techradar/TrustedReviews and Engadget have very opposite report about the screen under sunlight??
As for the battery like I said it's useless to test it out of the box, they could at least compare it with a light user like me instead of focusing on a super heaby user, I mean my own Aino that last 3 full days with my usage would not last 8 hours with open 3G/BT/WIFI/GPS
As for video recording it's VGA 30fps but video bitrate seem low (perhaps a modded Cam driver can beefed this up)
Very nice review from TrustedReview: http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-phones/review/2010/03/10/HTC-Legend/p1
They are the first to say battery can last 2 days
I'm surprised they gave the legend such high scores, most of the review sounded critical
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/10/htc-legend-review/
Because the negative critics toward the Legend are minor
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/htc-legend-review
Another review popped up. This one from KnowYourCell.
It seems from all these reviews that the main flaws of the device are:
-battery life (probably not that big a deal once the battery is conditioned from day-to-day use)
-update frequency of Friendstream widget is slow.
For my usage the battery should last around 2-3 days because I will not use 3G nor GPS, as for BT and WIFI I use them for about 15mins before sleeping that's all.
Now in summer I will use about 2-3 hours a day of GPS because of the jogging GPS tracker (calories burned)
Is raging thunder 2 running on that device?
I really can't help but stand in awe of the contempt Sony Ericsson has for consumers. That is putting it lightly. I feel as if I'm trapped in an inside joke that I can never hope to escape, much less understand. I'm not really sure where to start, so I'll just start.
Has anyone done a tear-down on the x10 to see whether or not the CPU in it is what they claim it is? From what I have experienced, I cannot see it being any more than a 500Mhz processor. The most basic functions are plagued with bugs and completely unacceptable lag! Try scrolling through any menu, opening the address book or just trying to tap on the right thing (though this last one doesn't have much to do with the CPU). It feels like I'm fooling the device into doing whatever it is that it was supposedly made for! The entire 'xperience' reminds me of when touchscreen functionality was first seriously being introduced to the market well over a decade ago. I feel the same way that consumers presumably felt at that time after having a go: "Well gee, this is kind of neat, but this interface is so damn unresponsive! It's a gimmick!"
I've seen people complain all over the place about it not have multi-touch functionality. While they are right to do so (any device of this nature lacking said functionality is downright irrelevant and might as well have "DOA" written on it with a thick, black marker upon release), they are missing the overwhelmingly stronger, more fundamental point worthy of complaint: the SINGLE touch experience.
Sure, this travesty was promised a 2.1 update from the beginning: a beacon of light for all of us having had the misfortune of making too much of an impulse purchase or impulse contract signing. I could and did take comfort in the hope that things will be up and running; responsive and fixed! The day of the update's release came and went. To my utter astonishment the folks at Sony Ericsson actually managed to make everything even worse. The overall responsiveness of the phone was worsened; enough to actually notice. Little convenient buttons shortcuts and buttons were removed or rearranged (like the ability to save a new contact after having punched in a number). The icing on this fail cake was the introduction of a new major problem on top of all the others! Now there are massive proximity sensor issues. Now my wife can't even use the unit to talk to her family without turning speaker phone on and off or mashing the keypad with her cheek, randomly (it can't be due to some 3rd party app, since it was like this from the beginning, freshly flashed with 2.1). I should have mentioned that this isn't even my phone, it's my wife's. All of this anger, sadness and disappointment is purely second-hand.
To any of you reading this thinking to themselves, "It's not so bad, he's clearly exaggerating." I suggest you go out and try using an iPhone for five minutes, it doesn't matter the model. Maybe you think I'm an Apple fanboy! Try an HTC Desire or a Galaxy S smartphone. Hell, try any touch screen smartphone currently on the market today. It's like night and day.
Does anyone have any tips as to how I can make this experience the slightest bit more bearable for my wife? I see custom builds all over the development section, but I'm not sure which one is the most put together or ready for every day use. I apologize if I've offended anyone or shattered any world views.
Thanks guys.
Dont get it?
never mind. basically the OP thought posting a thread slamming the x10 in a forum full of x10 developers and users was a good idea
Also dude if you wan to know the best custom build, read the posts like the rest of us have to cause at the end of the day its your decision
I have 27 more days to exchange...If not, I'm going back to WP7 which by the way is wayyyyyyy smoother.
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I have 27 more days to exchange...If not, I'm going back to WP7 which by the way is wayyyyyyy smoother.
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its not android's fault
.....its motoblur's fault...and the fact its running froyo
What exactly are you looking for or expecting in a different dual core phone? When you say smoother... do you mean in design or actual function?
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What exactly are you looking for or expecting in a different dual core phone? When you say smoother... do you mean in design or actual function?
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Judging from the video reviews of the LG 2X, the browser and overall phone seem much more fluid on the 2X. Try loading up engadget or pocketnow.com and it's annoyingly slow to browse on the Atrix. Even my 1.5 year old Ipod touch browses better than this phone. I tried Firefox, and it's a little bit better, but not my much.
Another issue: The phone freezes up sometimes opening text messages. I'm also getting error messages like "the message must contain valid recipients and content" even though I'm immediately "replying" to a message...lol
Overall feel = too much plastic.
The experience with this phone seems to vary a lot...
I've had almost no issues and everything seems to run exceptionally smooth to me. I'm coming from an iPhone 3GS and browsing is without a doubt better on the Atrix. I can scroll entire pages like engadget without it hesitating to load while my iphone is constantly having to pause for a second to make the page viewable if I scroll beyond a crawl. I've used my friends iphone 4 quite a bit as well and I'd have to say that I think the atrix works better for browsing than that as well. Definitely closer than my 3GS, but the atrix seems to handle it just a little bit better.
Texts have worked fine for me... nothing spectacular but not worse than other smartphones I've used.
Build quality definitely doesn't seem to be the same as my 3GS, but I like the design of the atrix a bit more. It's hard to beat the "solid" feel of the iphone though. I'd say the atrix is at least on par with the average smartphone, but definitely not the best.
Webtop access kit - Blurry HDMI Output
I am having a very hard time deciding to keep this phone. There are things it does so well and others are a clear miss.
The HD dock kit (with the keyboard/mouse) brings up a massive limitation on this phone when connected to a HDMI monitor. Out of 4 HDMI monitors and TVs I own, there is not one that is an exact native resolution mode that is supported by this phone. The 720p modes come close to my 720p monitors but there is no support at all for 1080 modes.
This makes the video out look like crap on these monitors, like using S-video in or something. Most of the video modes seem to be from the old VGA output connector days like 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 etc. Why?
The output quality is no where even close to what you are used to on your PC because of this. If you were lucky enough to have a monitor with a supported native resolution then mabey it would look correct. As it is, the text is painfully blurry to look at in todays crisp digital era.
Now that the desktop mode is unusable because of crappy video out mode support, major functions of this Atrix are gone.
Anyone else notice this? I thought I should post this to give others a heads up on these accessories.
I'm curious how many people having issues have rooted their device. I rooted mine the day I got it, but reversed the root after seeing some issues others are having. Root access doesn't mean much to me anyway.
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Yes, very much so. I haven't had the best experience with mine. Specifically, screen responsiveness. I find that when I try to move quickly through a task or throughout the phone, it misses registered touches. I have no problem moving about exactly the same way on my Inspire, Captivate, or my previous iPhone. And then again, I saw a thread asking about screen responsiveness and everyone said it was great, with one person saying it was the best. Which was the exact opposite of my experience. I'm back using my inspire, trying to decide if I want to exchange (could've gotten a bad unit) or just return it.
*ps - the screen leaves a lot to be desired. Feels like I'm using a "dumbphone" from years ago. I just don't think it looks any good and there are apps that look distorted because of the new resolution.
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Yes, very much so. I haven't had the best experience with mine. Specifically, screen responsiveness. I find that when I try to move quickly through a task or throughout the phone, it misses registered touches. I have no problem moving about exactly the same way on my Inspire, Captivate, or my previous iPhone. And then again, I saw a thread asking about screen responsiveness and everyone said it was great, with one person saying it was the best. Which was the exact opposite of my experience. I'm back using my inspire, trying to decide if I want to exchange (could've gotten a bad unit) or just return it.
*ps - the screen leaves a lot to be desired. Feels like I'm using a "dumbphone" from years ago. I just don't think it looks any good and there are apps that look distorted because of the new resolution.
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I went from using the captivate and i can hardly tell a difference between the two screens. The screen is the least of this phones problems anyhow.
"First on the block syndrome"
Some are happy or don't want to admit their early rush may have been too early.
Others read the specs and expectations are not met.
Still others are happy with their choice and understand being the first release may not be perfect and have the patience to wait for the inevitable upgrades and ROMS.
As for my I am usually last on the block and am rarely disappointed (except with iphone)
A hotrodded Captivate will likely be slicker than a first release Atrix despite the specs
The Atrix browses the web so much smoother than my overclocked Captivate.
When I loaded up a page on the Captivate, it wouldn't let me scroll at all until it was almost completely loaded. And when I did, it would show me some grid of blank space where there should have been website, and I would have to wait for it to load before I could see what part of the page I was on.
On the Atrix, it loads the whole webpage much better and there's hardly any lag at all with browsing and scrolling. I think your expectations are too high. Tone it down a notch and take a step away from the hardware sheet, then make your judgements.
Coming from a captivate my only complaints are the lack of the s amoled screen. At first i thought this phone had lag but now that ive been using it for awhile i notice that its the refresh rate of the display. Anytime the screen moves it gets slightly distorted. Opening apps and transitioning from screen to screen are snappy. Out of the box this phone blows the pants off my captivate. Everything just works so far.
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Yes, very much so. I haven't had the best experience with mine. Specifically, screen responsiveness. I find that when I try to move quickly through a task or throughout the phone, it misses registered touches. I have no problem moving about exactly the same way on my Inspire, Captivate, or my previous iPhone. And then again, I saw a thread asking about screen responsiveness and everyone said it was great, with one person saying it was the best. Which was the exact opposite of my experience. I'm back using my inspire, trying to decide if I want to exchange (could've gotten a bad unit) or just return it.
*ps - the screen leaves a lot to be desired. Feels like I'm using a "dumbphone" from years ago. I just don't think it looks any good and there are apps that look distorted because of the new resolution.
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I had problems with screen responsiveness when I switched to launcher pro, but after switching back to motoblur the problems went away.
I swapped my HTC Inspire for this phone, and my initial reaction was to return the Atrix. Yes the screen does feel like a dumbphone compared to my Captivate and the Inspire, but if you dig deeper you'll find it's mainly the color yellow that throws it off. It feels like a television that needs to be calibrated badly.
Voodoo sound and color helped the Captivate, maybe someone will do the same for the Atrix, before I slam it into a wall hopefully.
If you guys arent happy now then you never will be. I suggest you return your Atrix immediately and go back to whatever phone was so great before you went with the Atrix. Complaining on talk forums never accomplishes anything except to make the poster look like a whiny little *****.
I own two Captivates that are both faster than the new Atrix 4g that I just got. The Atrix is still an Awesome phone and the Dev's here are working hard to make it better for all of us. I have seen all kinds of complaints and critisism here most of which are not at all constructive.
Personally I think there are numerus places and sites for this type critisism. The name of this site is xda-developers! It is where we all come if we have a problem or need assistance or simply want to learn about a device. I enjoy coming here and interacting with everyone and having an opportunity to learn. Education is a comodity that is cherished throughout the world! The hate and critisism distract and sway people from the task at hand with developing this new product. The Mods closed down the last thread that went in this direction (and rightfully so) and suspect the same will come of this.
Sorry to offend anyone and will probably get flamed royaly but it is just my two cents worth......
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Yes, very much so. I haven't had the best experience with mine. Specifically, screen responsiveness. I find that when I try to move quickly through a task or throughout the phone, it misses registered touches. I have no problem moving about exactly the same way on my Inspire, Captivate, or my previous iPhone. And then again, I saw a thread asking about screen responsiveness and everyone said it was great, with one person saying it was the best. Which was the exact opposite of my experience. I'm back using my inspire, trying to decide if I want to exchange (could've gotten a bad unit) or just return it.
*ps - the screen leaves a lot to be desired. Feels like I'm using a "dumbphone" from years ago. I just don't think it looks any good and there are apps that look distorted because of the new resolution.
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Yes, I get this once in a while. When pressing "settings" or any of the buttons in menu screen, the touch would not register until the 2nd or 3rd try. Very annoying.
Exador said:
If you guys arent happy now then you never will be. I suggest you return your Atrix immediately and go back to whatever phone was so great before you went with the Atrix. Complaining on talk forums never accomplishes anything except to make the poster look like a whiny little *****.
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Yes, we all put a gun to your head and made you read this. We also strapped your fingers to the mouse button for you to open these threads. These are feedbacks and I'm sure Moto is taking notes. Maybe other members here have solutions to some of the problem they're willing to share. You coming in here complaining about the complainers make you look like a little ***** also. lol. I bet the guy trolling about the nexus S is your best friend.
A hotrodded Captivate isn't nearly as slick as the Atrix. I have both and there is no comparison.
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the only thing that might be interesting is the samsuck galaxy s2
but i dont like samsung, its personal
Exador said:
If you guys arent happy now then you never will be. I suggest you return your Atrix immediately and go back to whatever phone was so great before you went with the Atrix. Complaining on talk forums never accomplishes anything except to make the poster look like a whiny little *****.
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Thanks for being so rude. This is called feedback, and these posts have shown that others have had similar problems. I found it helpful.
Just really getting tired of all these silly threads coming up on how someone has the most minute problem with this Zeus of a phone and needs to bash bash bash. I wanted to create a thread where users can post on the things that make them love their sgs2.
For me its the 1080p video recording. Just installed the modded camera apk from the Dev section and took a video. WOW am I impressed.
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I agree. Really impressed by the device. Using it for 3 weeks now and it never failed. Coming from Milestone, this is heaven.
I was thinking of starting a similar thread. With every person with an issue posting a crisis thread assuming everyone else is having the same problem the front page looks a horror story. Then the same three people with the issue post a dozen posts, basically to each other, and you have three pages worth of the exact same thing repeated over and over. Then, god forbid you post anything that doesn't support the latest conspiracy theory and you're flamed.
My phone's part of my life - not my life. I don't think that's so for some of my fellow owners. I mean seriously, I know the phone's not cheap, and it's not perfect, but compared to everything out there it's fantastic. Using a car analogy, if the dash lighting on your BMW's not to your liking you suck it up. You don't try to get a gaggle of those that also don't like the dash lighting and attack BMW. Either live with it, trade the car in, and/or never buy another BMW again. The same thing applies to the SGS2. If Samsung does lurk this board we're undoubtedly providing them with tons of laughs as a small percentage of users are ballistic having had the realization the phone wasn't designed specifically for them.
Anyway, I just got back from an extended trip and here's some of the things I really like about the phone:
1) The software's tight. It responds quickly and consistently each and every time. I've had no funkiness turning the various data functions on and off and all the integrated apps work well together just like they're supposed to.
2) As a media device the phone's the best out there. I downloads a bunch of MKV files before the trip and the phone isn't even phased. Web browsing is fast and fluid and I personally like the Media and Reader Hubs.
3) As an audio device the phone's great. I have about 2,000 tracks on it that are DRM protected Rhapsody files and they play flawlessly. The audio output's great for the way I use the phone - through headphones, via Bluetooth, and through the onboard speaker.
4) The phone aspect works well for me. I can hear people clearly and they can hear me both through the handset and Bluetooth. So many new high-end phones suck at being just a phone.
5) I love the screen. The vividness of the colors and blackness of the blacks are unmatched. That especially shines through with videos, pictures, and web browsing.
Well, those are the things that stand out for me. Anything not mentioned doesn't mean I don't like it, they're either not important or functioning as designed. The latter being a good thing.
So to all potential purchasers, take time to read through this forum beyond the crisis posts. The mute majority is actually quite happy with the SGS2.
Everything nothing is bad some can be improved is my view battery display GPS good .
My phone's part of my life - not my life
Agree but you must understand many posters love the phone as they cannot get a girlfriend .
Others are not technically minded enough to use the phone the ones who double post dont use search or read faqs must fall in to that category .
Then their are the sad ex Iphone users who need hand holding or HTC who buy a phone without sense ..
jje
Agreed. People take this stuff way too close to the heart.
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Well, I love my SGS2. I can post here It may not be 100% perfect, but no phone is. This device is the best on the Market right now imo, I recommend it to my friends. They really like the screen, the colours and ultra blacks
I seriously couldnt think of anything I dont like. Only thing I hope is developers start optimizing their apps for the Galaxy S II!
i luv luv luv my sgs2
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Agree but you must understand many posters love the phone as they cannot get a girlfriend .
jje
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LMFAO! that's pretty funny! I actually think they COULD get a girlfriend, but it's easier to invest 600+ euro in a phone, rather than investing 600+ euro in a make over, getting into shape and dating. Lol. I love my phones, a lot. But that has NEVER stopped me from dating hehe.
EDIT: You can always find a way to get both in your life! Like, taking public transport to dates, and then while in the tube / bus / train, you could tinker with your phone ^^
I've bought Samsung Galaxy S 2 few days ago and it's incredible!
Granted, I used to have Touch HD so I don't really have anythin good to compare it to, but anyway, I'm in love with it.
P.S. This is like my second post or something
Have fun
I agree. In fact reading so many threads about issues here and there, I started getting cold feet and became concerned the device would be sub-par. However, its an amazing device.
I love the HD recording. I love that Samsung took issues with the previous Galaxy S series and added new functions. For example, there are now settings to change the touch-key light settings to 1.5s to 6s to always off/on or only in the dark. Nice feature. My battery life is better than I had hoped for and haven't even used the power mode feature which is also a nice feature.
My previous phone was a Captivate with serious GPS issues. The GPS in the SGS2 can get up to 4m-10m accuracy. I take the train everyday and while the Cappy used to show me a few km away on a highway, the SGS2 will actually show me as being on the train tracks with dead on accuracy.
It doesn't overheat, doesn't have any yellow streaks and I love my SGS2
I love being able to do anything within 3 seconds with my SGS2
Me: *click *click "Bring me pizza! Now!"
SGS2: Your wish is my command, sir. Meanwhile, could you please rephrase your voice command?
Me: ArrrRRRrr!
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I love being able to do anything within 3 seconds with my SGS2
Me: *click *click "Bring me pizza! Now!"
SGS2: Your wish is my command, sir. Meanwhile, could you please rephrase your voice command?
Me: ArrrRRRrr!
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ha ha ha LOL!
Yeah with every day and with every tuning and tweaking and every new good app
I love it more and more.
At the beginning, i allready thought to get it back.. but now i wouldn't give it away
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I agree. In fact reading so many threads about issues here and there, I started getting cold feet and became concerned the device would be sub-par. However, its an amazing device.
I love the HD recording. I love that Samsung took issues with the previous Galaxy S series and added new functions. For example, there are now settings to change the touch-key light settings to 1.5s to 6s to always off/on or only in the dark. Nice feature. My battery life is better than I had hoped for and haven't even used the power mode feature which is also a nice feature.
My previous phone was a Captivate with serious GPS issues. The GPS in the SGS2 can get up to 4m-10m accuracy. I take the train everyday and while the Cappy used to show me a few km away on a highway, the SGS2 will actually show me as being on the train tracks with dead on accuracy.
It doesn't overheat, doesn't have any yellow streaks and I love my SGS2
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Now this is comforting to hear. Like the man said I was getting cold feet, first the camera issue, now the OELD burnin/yellow issues, people whining about wifi range and battery life.
You'd think this device was a disaster. Yet all the reviews praise the **** out of it. So I was starting to have some doubts about buying it but, it's really nice to see some positive community feedback that goes to show once again that a very loud minority can indeed make you doubt your choices...
Most of these forums are plagued with issues posting because
1. These forums are the easiest location to find solutions for issues. Great gateway to compare experiences (it would be great if people searched and posted in the same topic thread instead of making a new one)
2. It represents a very tiny part of the whole population of owners hence amplifying the issues no matter how many folks are affected by it
3. Most folks won't post unless they run into an issue
As for me. Device has been nothing but stellar
- Great battery life (much better than any other smartphone that i've had and i've had many since the winmo slide out qwerty keyboard device days)
- Improved SAMOLED screen over the last gen and it's noticeably sharper
- Form factor. There is nothing else like it and it's comfortable in my hand and my pocket
- Quickness. There is nothing really slowing down the device at all.
- WIFI - Reception is better than my galaxy s and gets better throughput than any other wifi device that i own except my computer
- Cell reception - My apartment is located next to the water and i don't get great reception in certain parts of my apartment and i get much better reception - four to three bars of hspa+!!! (I get dropped calls with my verizon bb sometimes and none for the gsii yet)
- Comes with gingerbread from the factory and updated constantly
My honeymoon period is over and there are certainly few things that they could have improved on but i'm glad i got the gs2 on the launch day.
ph00ny said:
Most of these forums are plagued with issues posting because
1. These forums are the easiest location to find solutions for issues. Great gateway to compare experiences (it would be great if people searched and posted in the same topic thread instead of making a new one)
2. It represents a very tiny part of the whole population of owners hence amplifying the issues no matter how many folks are affected by it
3. Most folks won't post unless they run into an issue
As for me. Device has been nothing but stellar
- Great battery life (much better than any other smartphone that i've had and i've had many since the winmo slide out qwerty keyboard device days)
- Improved SAMOLED screen over the last gen and it's noticeably sharper
- Form factor. There is nothing else like it and it's comfortable in my hand and my pocket
- Quickness. There is nothing really slowing down the device at all.
- WIFI - Reception is better than my galaxy s and gets better throughput than any other wifi device that i own except my computer
- Cell reception - My apartment is located next to the water and i don't get great reception in certain parts of my apartment and i get much better reception - four to three bars of hspa+!!! (I get dropped calls with my verizon bb sometimes and none for the gsii yet)
- Comes with gingerbread from the factory and updated constantly
My honeymoon period is over and there are certainly few things that they could have improved on but i'm glad i got the gs2 on the launch day.
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+1. Hope mine has no problems when it arrives on Monday!
JJEgan said:
Everything nothing is bad some can be improved is my view battery display GPS good .
My phone's part of my life - not my life
Agree but you must understand many posters love the phone as they cannot get a girlfriend .
Others are not technically minded enough to use the phone the ones who double post dont use search or read faqs must fall in to that category .
Then their are the sad ex Iphone users who need hand holding or HTC who buy a phone without sense ..
jje
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Ah ah, best answer ever
Good thread. I also would like some issues to be resolved, but we all should understand one thing - with increasing complexity of devices, there will be some issues. It is bound to have certain compatibility issues with zillions of different types of formats used. There will always be some compromise made by OEM on what to put in the device - cost vs features vs weight vs thickness Etcetera...
For those who see everything in negative light, I have a solution.
deeply in love with sgs2
Its good to see some love instead of all the usual gripes and moans...
I came from an HD2 and wasnt expecting this phone to completely replace it, but it has. The HD2 is in a drawer and I dont see it coming out for a while. Feel kinda bad for it.. lol
Im loving the readers hub, saves me getting off my lazy ass to go to the newsagents that and the mind blowing speed, gorgeous screen etc etc....
Very happy with my SGS2