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Interesting WiFi Reg Setting

Did anyone else notice this registry entry?
[HKLM\Comm\TIACXWLN1\Params]
"EnableElpMode"=dword:00000000
If I'm not mistaken, the TyTn has a TI ACX100 WiFi chip, and this chip has TI's "Enhanced Low Power(tm) Technology". I've enabled it on my TyTn, and so far it seems to do no harm. I'll have to see if my battery power improves over the next week.

Correction...
Ah, the htc TyTn has TI's TNETW1250 chip. My mistake.
In any case, I think the EnableElpMode (if it really does work) would be a good thing. Also, I've seen a few webpages suggesting an additional key:
"dot11SupportedRateMaskG"=dword:00000008
Apparently this key tells the driver it's okay to do any 802.11g speed. I'm going to go find out!

let us know how it goes....

1st set of test results
First, I should detail the equipment I'm using.
My wifi router: D-Link 624.
My phone: htc TyTn, QTEK ROM 1.35.255.2 (Radio 1.18.00.10)
My laptop: IBM Thinkpad T22, w/ Hawking Techmologies HWC54D wifi card, Win2k.
My PC: P4 2.4GHz, asus P4P800 (has Gb lan), WinXP.
Results so far: (using http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest, and sitting right next to my DI624)
PC: 5.3 Mb/s
Laptop (w/wifi): 3.4 Mb/s
TyTn: ~250 kb/s
Notes:
In one test I set the DI624 to use 802.11g only. Without any registry tweaks, the TyTn connected up just fine. Therefore, I suspect that the dot11SupportedRateMaskG key is no longer needed.
Curious to see if I could boost the TyTn's wifi speed, I began fiddling with all of the different registry settings under that heading (listed above). The wifi speed always hovered in the 250 kb/s range. It seems as though none of those settings significantly changed the wifi speed.
There was one key that did make a big difference in the time it take to actually connect up to the wifi router. Setting "dot11ShortPreambleInvoked" to 1 greatly sped up the time from wifi-off to wifi-connected-and-ready. (My DI624 was also configured for a short preamble.) Without the short preamble, it was taking between 10-30 seconds for the TyTn to connect up. With the short preamble it's between 5-10 seconds.
(Side note: The "Testmode" key didn't seem to do anything - at least I didn't see any difference when I set that to 1.)
One other key that did make a small difference:
[HKLM\Comm\Tcpip\Params]
"TCPWindowSize"=65536
I played around with this key, and it seems like setting it to 4096 "optimized" it just a bit. I got around 270 kb/s with that setting. Setting it bigger (say, 256k) slowed things down (~240 kb/s), while setting it smaller (say, 1k) really slowed things down (~170 kb/s!).
I'm going to continue fiddling around with the settings and report back again. It just seems to me that the TyTn should be able to achieve a wifi speed at least above 1 Mb/s. I would appreciate it if everyone else would check their wifi speed and post the results here as well.
p.s. If anyone knows of a PocketPC utility that can show detailed wifi connection information (such as speed, frequency, protocol, etc.) please let me know!

250 kpbs, that cant be correct? can it?
that would mean that HSDPA is faster than hermes wifi? I will test mine when my wife gives it back to me, im grounded for the holiday season. lol
something is terribly wrong here......

yes, there is something wrong here... I think you need to turn on flight mode before you run your wireless test again, and here is why... On my phone i have my data connection set to always on. If i turn on wifi then my data connection doesnt disconnect and will result in low speeds since its not using the wifi. If i turn mine on flight mode then run tests then everything is good. Here is my results using the same site as the OP
PC = 1.9
phone = 1.4
I am using a 3meg adsl pipe with a wireless SMC router with mac filtering, regular wep, and a static set up on the LAN side.

Progress!
I changed my wifi speed test to: http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed
Surprisingly, that speed test reported 1647 kb/s for my TyTn!
Fiddling with the TCPWindowSize value, it seems that 64k is optimum - well, at least with the dslreports test.

i usually use dsl reports, but i wanted to maintain some kind of constant for your testing

Wireless settings / b-g connections
Hi, I;ve just got a TyTn but it won't connect to my Netgear 802.11g router?? Is it b-only? Is there a hack (like for the Universal) which would enable me to connect to g networks? Would I still be able to connect to b-networks?
Thanks!

motoroller said:
I;ve just got a TyTn but it won't connect to my Netgear 802.11g router??
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My TyTn is fairly new (bought last month) and I can configure my DI624 to 802.11g only, and connect up just fine. What ROM version does your TyTn have? I'm on the QTEK 1.35.255.2 ROM. If you TyTn is right-out-of-the-box, it's probably got the QTEK 1.18.xxx.x. If that's so, you should consider unlocking it and upgrading it to one of the latest ROMs.
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Is it b-only?
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The htc TyTn (Hermes) has the TI TNETW1250 wifi chip. This chip is 802.11g capable.
motoroller said:
Is there a hack (like for the Universal) which would enable me to connect to g networks?
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You can try adding this registry key (although I'm not sure it will do anything on the TyTn):
[HKLM\Comm\TIACXWLN1\Params]
"dot11SupportedRateMaskG"=dword:00000008
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Would I still be able to connect to b-networks?
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Yes. Wifi chips that support 802.11g always support 802.11b (AFAIK).
Good luck!

shogunmark said:
i usually use dsl reports, but i wanted to maintain some kind of constant for your testing
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Yeah, after checking out several speed test websites, I'm beginning to doubt the one on bandwidthplace. Actually, while testing out several other speed test websites using my PC, I've gotten a smattering of different speeds reported. Most seemed to be within reason and about what I expected, but a few were either obviously too slow or absurdly too high. (Ony reported above 100 Mb/s downstream, even though my cable modem is a DCM-202!) The dslreport site seemed to be believable to me, so I'm sticking with it for now.

If it makes you feel better i work for AT&T in the DSL maintenance department and have for 6 years.. anytime i have anyone that reports slow speed issues i always take them to dslreports and use those speedtests.. they seem to be the most reliable that i have found..

Okay, I'll trust dslreports' speed test then!
So now the question is: Does a wifi speed of ~1600 kb/s sound "right" for the TyTn?
What makes me wonder is that when I run the dslreports speed test on my laptop via wifi, I get ~3.2 Mb/s. So I know my DI624 can pump out the bits! (Well, for 802.11g's max of 54 Mb/s, that's still kinna lame.)
I've pretty much exhausted all of the registry settings I can find. Got any others I can/should look into?

there are other things you need to take into account, the processor, the amount of ram, etc.. when you run a speed test it rely's on your pc to process the information as it comes down the pipe... if you really wanted to test it you could build a pc that resembled the phones specs and run a speed test and see what you get.. i would make a bet that it would resemble the same results

Do you know any registry key to improve the wifi trasnimt power?

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Do you know any registry key to improve the wifi trasnimt power?
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have you already went to settings>connections>wireless lan>power mode tab and changed the slider to best performance?

did it but no effects

Wi-Fi Reg Setting
I went through this post and compared the results to waht I have right now! Not too encouraging!
I have a 4MB connection rated at average to be a 3.5MB at www.speakeasy.net/speedtest using the New York Host!

Wi-Fi Reg Setting
I went through this post and compared the results to waht I have right now! Not too encouraging!
I have a 4MB connection rated at average to be a 3.5MB at www.speakeasy.net/speedtest using the New York Host!
I run a WRT54G with upgraded firmware downloaded from kinksys. Before that the damn thing wouldn't even connect to my TYTN.
Right now I am getting connection speeds through WiFi between 650kbps and 1200 kbps according to www.2wire.com speed test.
I have a Dopod 838Pro bought in HK in November to which I didn't do a Thing yet!
Cheers

Is 1.6 Mb/s the best TyTn can do?
Well I've fiddled with all the registry settings I could possibly fiddle with, and dslreports won't show anything above 1.6 Mb/s for on my TyTn (using PIE).
Has anyone gotten anything higher with their TyTn?

Poor WiFi Performance on HTC Fuze (RSS, Orb)

I have had two different HTC Fuze devices now and have noticed that the WiFi performance seems to be rather slow. I have a 54mbps wireless network setup I believe (I use wired Gigabit ethernet for my PCs, WHS & Media Streamer), yet the only difference in speeds I notice between my WiFi network and AT&T's 3G seem to be better latency on WiFi. I have tried all 3 different WiFi settings in Windows Mobile, Performance/Balanced/BatterySave, and they don't seem to make much difference.
Now, as far as Opera Mobile goes, the poor speed can probably be attributed to the browser's rendering engine and the device's hardware, but my real complaint here is with the RSS reader I use, Spb Insight. I have 58 feeds set up, and it took it about 30-35 minutes to download 42.7~ MB of data over my WiFi network. I realize this isn't too bad, all things considered, but my Comcast cable connection is 20 mbps downlink, and if I were to download 42 megs of data on my desktop PC, we'd be looking at around 21 seconds (max transfer of ~2.11 MB/sec, tested on GigaNews USENET servers).
So my question is, assuming the bottleneck isn't the Spb Insight RSS Reader software, which I don't think it is, are there any registry changes/hacks or software I can use to get a bit better speed out of the Fuze's WiFi radio? I am running the stock AT&T ROM with the workaround that bypasses the AT&T BloatWare Install and my radio is stock also. I did a few forum searches and didn't come up with much of anything, and nothing Fuze related.
Is anyone else noticing slower-than-expected/desired WiFi speeds on their Fuze?
-- As an aside, I noted earlier I have a Media Streamer box - basically a dedicated small Shuttle brand PC box that I stuck a dual-core Celeron into that's only function is to transcode & stream videos via the Orb Software. I used a Seinfeld episode xvid @ 576x432 resolution that plays near-perfect, a frame-skip here and there (and looks gorgeous, I might add) on the Fuze using CorePlayer v1.2.5, but when I stream those same videos off my streamer box (transcoded into WMV) using Orb over WiFi, they're nearly unwatchable from all the hiccups and audio sync issues. I haven't even bothered trying it using 3G, since it can't even manage it over wireless. These videos streamed without any issue to my Archos 5 60GB Internet Media Tablet and Nokia N810 IT, both devices I've since sold, as the HTC Fuze replaces both without much issue, although the 600MHz ARM Cortex A8 + Graphics Chip in the Archos was a monster, eating webpages for breakfast & outputting 720p video to HDTV with nary a frameskip to be seen. They need to get those Cortex procs into mobile phones ASAP.
In any case, it seems like the WiFi is hindering me in this regard as well and I'd very much like to get this all ironed out so I can rest easy knowing my Fuze does everything I want it to. Sorry for the long-winded post, and a big thank you to all the contributors here for the amazing wealth of knowledge on these forums.

Try to change your radio stack, check for WLAN setup utilities to lock your transfer speed at 54 and try to make a WiFi connection with your PC to make sure it is not your router who makes lags

I noticed that the range of the Fuze's wi-fi is very limited. Anyone else notice this??

Having only used the Sprint TP, I didn't notice any specific issues with WiFi. Have you verified that all of the connection settings are properly configured? (wifi connects to internet instead of work network and your applications are set to use 'the internet' instead of 'MEdia Net') Then again, the stock Fuze ROM could very well just suck as most ATT HTC ROMs usually do

Wifi sucks on touch HD

When I first bought the touch HD I was thinking how good it would be to have this phone while having wifi with the lack of 3g for tmobile in the us, but it turns out that the wifi acutally suck! I have a iPod touch 2g And the wifi works great with blazing speed. I can't seem to detect my wifi at home mean while I'm connected on my wifi with my iPod. I been very disappoint with this phone for simple fact that this phone recieves wifi poorly. Anyone can help me out with this problem would be much appreciated because despite the wifi problem I love the phone cause the 3.8 screen is so damn sexual lol.

I've no such issues!
Try to set wifi power options to performance. Also, Enabling G Mode (with SKTools is one of the ways) helps improve speed.

Thanks for the info but it might be the lack of range of my router cause I have been on my wifi with the phone before but I get disconnected frequently and most the time it doesn't even show up or detect it but I don't have that problem with the iPod. With iPod I seem to get wifi everywhere. I'm starting to believe the iPod is better might sell it and get a iPhone or maybe a hero but don't know if I'm willing to spend 600+ on another phone

Next time put [rant] on the title

My wifi connects well to open, WEP, and WPA connections. I tried numerous access points (at least 30), even 802.11n APs in mixed g mode. It even connects to Apple Airport (802.11g). The connection is stable both on power saving and best performance, but I think I get much better speeds on average with best performance.
Its wifi range is much better than my little HP 613 smartphone, but again worse than my notebook. I get 54Mbit connection with signal quality of about 50% at 10 meters through a wall and then it automatically finds another channel on another AP. It roams (handover) APs better than some Lenovo r61 laptops around!
But I am not satisfied with its speed (even on best performance) - it finishes copying a 700MB file on a 54 Mbit connection in 30-40 minutes using total commander and saving on storage card. That means average speed is around 300-400KB/s - laptop does the same (same AP, same file, same network settings) at 1.6-1.8 MB/s in around 7 minutes.
I also noticed that saving on storage card is slighty faster than into the main memory...

I can't seem to detect my wifi at home mean while I'm connected on my wifi with my iPod.
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Hmm, are you sure that you don't compare two different situations ? Did you also try connecting to Wifi with your iPod while already being connected with your Blackstone ?
My personal experience shows me that the Touch HD seems to have a better radio than the iPhone 3G. Have you upgraded to the latest Blackstone stock ROM and radio available on the HTC website or XDA Devs ? Whether or not the radio also affects Wifi unfortunately I don't know.
Moreover, use WifiMonster to monitor the strength of the signal, it'll help you discover the best spots for using Wifi. I even receive Wifi signals from the neighbors' houses in my own house (not speaking about appartments), of course that always depends on the room !
BTW I'm pretty sure that a Hero won't solve your problem, it's the same old hardware specs as on the Blackstone.

The Wifi on my device works perfectly and i have had no issues at all with signal or quality. I have had more problems with my ipod than the HTC, are you sure its not the WIFI AP you are trying to connect to? Also are you using stock rom or custom?

I'm using the Energy ROM. I'm assume its my wifi signal its very weak and my touch hd cant seem to detect it. With my ipod i shows up and i can connect to it...will updating the radio make a difference?

I came across a startling discovery the other day regarding the Touch HD wifi. I was also having issues at home with weak wifi signal. I didn’t seem to have this problem with public access hot spots.
I have a Logitech wireless mouse connected to my computer and very rarely turn that computer off. I found that when my computer was off I would get a rock solid connection to my home wifi, but when the computer was on it would drop in and out. I narrowed it down to the wireless mouse was interfering with the Touch HD wifi connection.
I tried all different channels on my router, but as long as the Logitech mouse was plugged it I would get wifi dropouts. But as soon as I unplugged the mouse and the radio dongle, I wouldn’t have any problems with the Touch HD wifi.
I can’t comment if this is your issue, but something might be interfering in the 2.4Ghz with wifi.

Guys,
Sometimes even cordless phones, microwaves, etc will interfere with the connection.
Cheers.

As Poison Wolf correctly pointed out, other household items can interfere with the wireless frequency. Try changing the channel that's being used to transmit from your box (This will involve changing some settings on your wireless router so do some research before you fiddle around with it) I have had to do this before and can confirm it can make a massive difference.

ikovac said:
But I am not satisfied with its speed (even on best performance) - it finishes copying a 700MB file on a 54 Mbit connection in 30-40 minutes using total commander and saving on storage card. That means average speed is around 300-400KB/s - laptop does the same (same AP, same file, same network settings) at 1.6-1.8 MB/s in around 7 minutes.
I also noticed that saving on storage card is slighty faster than into the main memory...
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Everybody has this problem because the card seems not capable of more speed.
But it seems nearly nobody cares.
My old thread about his, no answers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524272

str0nz0 said:
Everybody has this problem because the card seems not capable of more speed.
But it seems nearly nobody cares.
My old thread about his, no answers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524272
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Stron,
Hmm, interesting. The only reasoning I can think of is that perhaps there's a limiting factor in order to reduce the heat or something? I don't see why they would cap the speeds.
Cheers.

What if it is capable of connecting at 54 Mbit, but can actually do only 11 Mbit? Nice trick. I hope it is just a bad idea.

[Q] xoom wifi 5ghz router

Just got this net gear high performance router. I connected to the 5 ghz band not the 2.4ghz and it acted like it didn't speed up the browsing much if at all. Download speed was around 2.5mbs. Rechecked to make sure I was on the 5ghz and it was. So I rebooted then rechecked the speed and got around 5.5mbs download speed. But after about 4 5 hours of playing around on the browser its like it starts slowing back down again sometimes so bad the page I'm trying to open just stops and the browser closes. Not force closes. But like I hit the home button. Reboot and its OK for a few hours again. I only keep one tab open to by the way just to keep from using any more memory. If I root and try a different kernel dose anyone know that this will go away?

A 5ghz router will not speed up your browsing over a 2.4ghz router, If you're only getting 5megs down anyways. Now if you had a 100meg connection maybe.
It also will have nothing to do with the fact that the browser gets slow over time.
High speed wireless routers are more about sharing content between computers on your wireless network.

but before I got this 5ghz router all I had was a 2.4 and my laptop wouldn't even play a YouTube video without stopping ever 10 seconds. Now with the new one its done buffering before I can smell my fart. It speeds up my internet like Ive never seen.

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but before I got this 5ghz router all I had was a 2.4 and my laptop wouldn't even play a YouTube video without stopping ever 10 seconds. Now with the new one its done buffering before I can smell my fart. It speeds up my internet like Ive never seen.
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Are you connecting to the router on the 5ghz frequency? Most laptops don't even have this capability.
If there was a lot of 2.4ghz interference around it may have had something to do with it.
Think about it, why would a 5meg connection that you were already maxing out at 802.11g (54mb/s) get any faster at a different frequency?

I'm pretty sure its more of a router issue. Try a different channel. Default is usually 7. If you are in a populated area there are probably a lot of others using that channel as well.
Download wifi manager in the market https://market.android.com/details?id=org.kman.WifiManager&feature=search_result
See which channel is the cleanest and use that one. Hope that helps!

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Are you connecting to the router on the 5ghz frequency? Most laptops don't even have this capability.
If there was a lot of 2.4ghz interference around it may have had something to do with it.
Think about it, why would a 5meg connection that you were already maxing out at 802.11g (54mb/s) get any faster at a different frequency?
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Yes the lap top dose support it. The wife was about to give up on it because it wouldn't do what she wanted it to now its perfectly fine. But I was just wondering why my xoom is slowing down after a while till a reboot. I just did the speed check again on my 2.4 band and it was the same as it used to be around 2.5mbs download speed. Then reconnected to the 5.0 ghz on the dual band wireless router and it jumped up to 6.4 mds download speed on speed test app.
Well I don't know? I was thinking that the 2.4 channel was slower than the 5.0 one but now they are both the same speed. And I was under the impression that 5.0ghz is faster than 2.4ghz but they're not they're just two different channels or frequencies I guess? I've just never delt with one of these fancy wireless routers before just stuck with what was installed by the cable guy. Maybe I can try keeping the cache clean in my browser and see how it dose.

just based on my limited understanding of wireless networking (slash basic physics), the higher frequency has the only benefit if being on a less populated channel. (More traffic means slower soeeds, more intereferemces, missing packets, etc...). I believe that the higher frequecy also degrades faster/ doesn't penetrate walls as well because it carries less energy, but I've never tried it myself. Just see what works best with some trial and error.

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but before I got this 5ghz router all I had was a 2.4 and my laptop wouldn't even play a YouTube video without stopping ever 10 seconds. Now with the new one its done buffering before I can smell my fart. It speeds up my internet like Ive never seen.
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Do you fart everytime you play a video? Maybe your nose is getting used to it so it only seems faster. I would hate to walk into your computer room after you've been inthere watching youtube.

I have the exact same problem, I have the netgear wndr3700, and the xoom does slow down after a while and a reboot fixes it. Ive tried both the 5 and 2.4 ghz and its the same story where it won't finish loading pages. I'm actually exchanging my router tomorrow for the wndr3400 because what I have now is overkill for my needs. What router do you have?

i had the same issues with the Linksys E4200. I was upset because my wife's 1st Gen ipad was blowing me out of the water in browsing speed. Then she had to nerve to ask "so why did you spend $600 on this?". Switched to 2.4 and everything is fine now. Better than fine actually. Now that I saw the 5ghz settings I may try again.

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I have the exact same problem, I have the netgear wndr3700, and the xoom does slow down after a while and a reboot fixes it. Ive tried both the 5 and 2.4 ghz and its the same story where it won't finish loading pages. I'm actually exchanging my router tomorrow for the wndr3400 because what I have now is overkill for my needs. What router do you have?
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have you guys tried flashing dd-wrt over the stock firmware on the netgear?
i have the same router and first thing i did when i got the router was flash dd-wrt on it... think of dd-wrt as a custom rom for your router
i'm connected to the 5ghz channel and its been working great for me but i don't surf on my xoom that long as some of you have....

WiFi Speed Dependent on CHarging Status

I have discovered that my US996 Unlocked and rooted device has typical down/up speeds of 90d/55u when the phone is not being charged. When the phone is connected to a charger the typical speeds are 400d/270u. This is very repeatable. The phone is 3 feet from the router. am using speed.net and the ping is 4 to 5 ms for both configurations. If I start the test with no charger and plug the charger in during the test the speed increases dramatically to the higher values. The verizon.net speed test for the router on my gigabit plan was fairly consistent at 948d and 931u. Is there a way to get the higher WiFi throughput while not connected to a charger?

Which router are you using btw ?
90 Mbs down seems like single stream N, on 2.4Ghz
400 Mbs down is single stream AC at 5Ghz
Can you check what your link speed says in the wifi props on the phone
the single sim V20 is dual stream so you'd expect a doubling of that speed, should be able to do 800Mbs on AC and 180 Mbs on N at 2.4ghz with a dual stream router which most are these days.
The dual sim V20 is unfortunately single stream so my max speeds are 90 & 400Mbs instead of being twice as much
I don't understand why you get a difference in speed in the first place. Should not matter plugged or not

I'm using the Vz provided G1100 gateway router. Link speed on the phone says 866 Mbps. I'm at a loss too - probably a phone hardware problem. BTW, I'm still on US99610d deodexed ROM with Xposed and other mods that I wouldn't THINK would cause the problem, but....

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I'm using the Vz provided G1100 gateway router. Link speed on the phone says 866 Mbps. I'm at a loss too - probably a phone hardware problem. BTW, I'm still on US99610d deodexed ROM with Xposed and other mods that I wouldn't THINK would cause the problem, but....
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Bolded bit implies your connection is good. Dual AC which i was expecting.
It's possible LG ramp down speeds to conserve battery. Not an issue with general use only with downloading

Bolded bit? Sorry, but I don't know what bit you are talking about. I remember seeing nothing bolded in anything wifi (settings). My router lists my V20 connection as "802.11ac" and I see nothing indicating any problem. But the phone still has the problem. I'm wondering if there could be an antenna problem and the charger conection acts as an extra antenna? Obviously l'm groping in the dark now.