Am I the only one with SMS issues? v.ArriveOutOfOrder - Hero CDMA General

The following happens no matter which ROM I use. Stock, fresh, modaco. I'm currently on fresh .6 (includes RM). Before that I had the stock ROM with MR update.
My PRL is up to date.
Happens with Handcent, Chomp and stock Messages app.
Problem:
When have a text conversation via SMS the arriving text are received out of order, some come on time, other come minutes later making the conversion impossible to follow. When they finally do arrive they are correctly sorted.
So let's say that I have a conversation that should look like: (just an example)
Me: Hi
Them: Hey whats up?
Me: Going to the game.
Them: Yeah I'll be there in 10 minutes
Me: Can you send me directions?
Them: Just did.
Me: thanks
But it will read like:
Me: Hi
Me: Going to the game.
Them: Yeah I'll be there in 10 minutes
Me: Can you send me directions?
Them: Hey what's up?
Them: Just did.
Hard to explain but then the sms get sorted correctly after a second and if they said something in a long convo that I'd have to scroll up for I'd never see it.
It's weird I know I'm getting thoem sometimes because my phone will go nuts with ringers, tell me I have 4 new messages but I only see two. 30 seconds later they appear in the conversation. Usually I get the latest ones first, then the older ones come through.
It is SO frustrating. If it's not one thing with this phone it's another.
Has anybody heard of this?

call sprint, see if they can disable your texts and then reenable them on your account, i had a similar issue with my texts.. it wasn't exactly like that, but I'd get like 1/3 then 3/3and a minute later almost 2/3 would appear, and my texts would go like older than their old texts... once they did that they work perfectly now

nelson8403 said:
call sprint, see if they can disable your texts and then reenable them on your account, i had a similar issue with my texts.. it wasn't exactly like that, but I'd get like 1/3 then 3/3and a minute later almost 2/3 would appear, and my texts would go like older than their old texts... once they did that they work perfectly now
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Yup. It has to be something with your account. Have them do what nelson said or re-provision your phone.

I live in Chicago and we don't get Sprint service while underground on the train. When I get back into range, 20 minutes later a missed text will magically appear, but strangely it is stamped with the correct time.
Is it possible that you are in an area of spotty service?

tstack77 said:
I live in Chicago and we don't get Sprint service while underground on the train. When I get back into range, 20 minutes later a missed text will magically appear, but strangely it is stamped with the correct time.
Is it possible that you are in an area of spotty service?
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That behavior ir reasonable and expected; but, no, this happens to me in areas of near-perfect reception like my home where I have all but one bar most of the time.
Also, I believe the timestamp's embedded as metadata in each SMS message which puts it in the right place on any phone, smart, dumb, new old etc.

yeap, I have the same problem here... Do you happen to live in MST?
I'm in Scottsdale and randomly I'll have messages timestamped exactly one hour behind. From what I've heard it's a Mountain Standard Time issue. My issues started when Daylight Savings Time started. It's rather annoying tbh, but its completely random.

Hrm, I had it happen to me last night, and I'm in Scottsdale too.

Happens to me as well. I'll randomly get a text that shows up timestamped 1 hour behind. I'm in Goodyear.
Hearing about this on other forums as well. Seems to be mostly AZ people with the problem.

thats funny. my wife and I have this same issue. i'm in east mesa. definitely AZ issue.

Aren't you guys the ones that *don't* do anything for daylight savings? If so, I wonder if that has anything to do with things...

I have the same problem and im in sioux city, iowa...mine does not do it all the time just everyonce in awhile tho

This also happens to me.. I live in Howell, NJ and it was also happening to me on a recent trip to Mountain View, CA.

Me too , I'm in Orange, ca.

I am an az guy and also have this issue. Htc knows about it and so does sprint. When they will fix it no one knows.
If you dl handcent it fixes it even tho the times will still be screwed up on some of the texts.

I'm also in AZ (Tucson) and having the SMS time stamp issue as well. It doesn't seem to be very wide spread unfortunately. I've searched a few forums and have only seen a post or two about it. Kind of makes me wonder if Sprint/HTC will do anything about it...

In Tucson, AZ here too and having the same problem. Holy crap it's annoying.

Download handcent and it will fix the issue until sprint/htc fix it.

azr6 said:
Download handcent and it will fix the issue until sprint/htc fix it.
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I experience the problem with handcent as well.

Yup, still happens with Handcent but it looks like it at least displays them in order received... at least that I've noticed.

I was in SoCal last week and when ppl from the east coast would sms me it would put the conversations in order by their local time, i.e. my replies were behind theirs even though it was a newer text. Handcent.

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Texts coming in but time is 3 hours late

stock ROM.
i'm getting texts just fine but randomly it will decide to time stamp them 3 hours earlier, so if i have a bunch of texts i have to scroll through them all until i find the new one that it thinks was sent 3 hours ago. it is pretty annoying. anyone know how to fix this? soft reset didn't do anything.
it's often the networks fault when sms's are delay'd
i would try putting the sim in another phone for testing
same here
since yesterday ive been getting random texts with the timestamp 3 hrs earlier, and i also have to scroll thru to find it. my computer did something to the phone yesterday and basically deleted anything synced and then resynced. its been doing this ever since.
weird that we would get this same problem at the same time.
this is really annoying
Not to beat the horse but i've been having the same problem since this morning. Everything was fine all day and night yesterday. I've received about 8 texts or so since 8am EST this morning (it's now 2:20pm EST) and about 3 of the texts have had the problem. Pretty annoying. Assuming it's the network like someone previously suggested.
the person said the network was delivering them late. that has happened before too, but these are being delivered on time, but the time stamp is 3 hours before the text was sent. since 3 of us had the same problem starting yesterday or around then, it must have something to do with the network, even though the messages are being delivered on time, it is just the time stamp that is wrong.
weird.
yeah i thought it was something wrong with my particular phone but now since all three of us are having issues i feel "better".
hopefully t-mobile fixes this soon, its really annoying **crosses fingers**
Yeah, and the wierd thing is that it seems like it's only happening with specific contacts too. Looks like it's happening with only two people out of the 7 people that have texted me today.
yeah it's weird, but only 2 people have texted me today, and only one of them messed up, while both contacts messed up yesterday
this has also been happening to me, what phone service do you guys have, i have tmobile
I just thought my phone took a crap. but with the above posts I guess it was the network. mms are always late but this is a first for sms. tmobile needs serious improvement on their network issues
Maybe the Network Wizard will fix the problem? Just thought I'd throw that in there.
well my network settings are set the way tmobile set them, so i don't think it's anything we can fix on our end. it is them.
Im having the same problem since about yesturday, and my carrier is t-mobile,
so I think it has something to do with them.
Not to beat that already dead horse, but just to reiterate, I too have t-mobile and I have been receiving text exactly 3 hours late. It is very annoying and I am calling t-mobile ATM. Thanks for letting me know it isnt just me.
tell us what they say. last night it was nuts for me. i would get a text with the proper time stamp, and then one 3 hours earlier (but you know, it was actually received at the the present) and then one from the same person that would have an accurate time stamp
wyldstallyns2589 said:
tell us what they say. last night it was nuts for me. i would get a text with the proper time stamp, and then one 3 hours earlier (but you know, it was actually received at the the present) and then one from the same person that would have an accurate time stamp
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They told me that it was "only your issue and no one else in your area has complained about it." They offered to send me a new sim card but it seems like it must be a network issue and not a hardware one because we are all experiencing the same thing. Could it only be modded phones? I changed the rom on mine, been meaning to for a while. I cant say if it has happened again cause I havent gotten a message :-X
I live on the Northeats and was previously running Touch-IT 5.0.
you should have told them that there are reports on the internet of people having the same issues.
i'm in the southeast with the newest stock ROM. so it is definitely a network thing, not hardware or modded issues.
i'd call myself but i'm not the account holder and they make you give all these account numbers SSN and crap
well in addition to the time stamp being wrong now my sms are coming in 24 hrs late. I am afraid to ask whats next.
wow. mine are just 3 hour late timestamps. what is going on here?
I have also been getting delayed texts... sometimes like 10 minutes but can be up to like 9 hours late. I live in Seattle, WA

HTC Magic (and HTC Dream) on Rogers - Text / SMS Timestamp issue?

Hi All,
Anyone on Rogers having issues with text message timestamps being off by a few hours?
I'm in Regina and any received SMS messages are two hours ahead of my local time. Changing from automatic network time to manual time has no effect.
It looks like text messages are being sent out with Toronto local time, no matter what the receiver's location is.
It appears that this is happening to a number of users, but Rogers support is useless - suggesting hard resets and returning the 'defective' device, which of course have no effect.
See: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2859
So anyone else that is having this problem, sound off - call tech support, reply to this and the above link, and hopefully Rogers will get this fixed sooner rather than later.
Hey Skawty, I'm in Regina too!! How you liking the phone? I just picked mine up on Wednesday and loving it. Anyways back to your point, I don't think it is possible to have a correct time on SMS, I haven't had any correct timestamps on any of my phones with Rogers, so we may be SOL on this part.
in edmonton here with the same issue. picked mine up today.
I don't know if the timestamps were off on my old krzr, they could have been and i would not have noticed. However with the threading by timestamp on this phone it really makes it annoying. There had better be a fix for this soon.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1305
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/sms-timestamp-incorrect-5067/
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2859
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1305
Looks like a lot of people complaining. I'd think they'll fix it soon.
this helps for now... kind of
http://androidforums.com/updates-cu...sms-issue-received-time-stamp-locked-est.html
WORKAROUND (sort-of) i’ve been using chompsms instead of the the messaging program, and it seems to thread everything correctly. chomp for whatever reason puts your time stamp on the same time zone as the received, so if you are replying to a received text with EST time stamp, chomp makes yours EST as well.
works for sending too… the initial msg you send will show your proper time, the reply will in est, then when you reply it will be in eastern, threading properly. rogers still needs to fix this though!
Hey, i imported the Tmobile G1 a couple months ago... i also noticed that the time was off on sms's. After i rooted, flashed a new rom and radio is was fixed. But now i am on the Hero rom and once again the time is off. So it seems that the it is not an issue with the radio, but maybe the build. I remeber i saw the right times wen i was on JF builds. I will try the Rogers rom again and also one of JFs roms again and let you know if the timestamp is fixed.
Beast11 said:
Hey, i imported the Tmobile G1 a couple months ago... i also noticed that the time was off on sms's. After i rooted, flashed a new rom and radio is was fixed. But now i am on the Hero rom and once again the time is off. So it seems that the it is not an issue with the radio, but maybe the build. I remeber i saw the right times wen i was on JF builds. I will try the Rogers rom again and also one of JFs roms again and let you know if the timestamp is fixed.
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Confirmed. I am using a t-mobile G1 with a Rogers Rom and live in EST. All my received texts are stamped with toronto time
I am running the rammjet rom built off the rogers and have the very same issue.
Though it seems sometimes if i have it open and am texting back and forth to the same person it will work properly.
Doesn’t matter what rom or software you are using on phone. This is a Rogers issue at the network level. They are the ones that stamp message.
They are aware of issue, but it seems very low on priorities to them. Guess they don’t understand sms is not just for teens to giggle these days. Its important for business and as far as I am concerned, a big deal
I have contacted them several times and get one of the two:
“No idea what you are talking about” << Love these replies from any service call
Or
“We are aware of the issue and are working on it” << No time frame given, so really as pointless as above
In any case. Don’t be running around looking for an in-phone fix because you haven’t done anything to mess with the time stamp. Doesn’t matter what you use for sms or what os you have on phone
Chomp helps by keeping things in order, but doesn’t fix timestamp. Rogers has to do this. Will they and when????? Who knows?
G1 Dream
I had the same problem with a Tmobile G1 Dream im not sure if they are exactly the same software but I fix the problem changing some of the APN settings give it a try
Good Luck
Good day, I recently purchased the HTC Touch Pro 2...great phone by the way. I also am experiencing sms message time stamp errors and I have tried everything...do you have any suggestions?
terrancextc said:
I had the same problem with a Tmobile G1 Dream im not sure if they are exactly the same software but I fix the problem changing some of the APN settings give it a try
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What settings did you change? I'd like to try this.
I know that it isnt a fix, but what i did was adjust the timezone to gmt -2(4 hour offset in regina) then manually entered a time, so now my messages are in the correct order. the only problem with this was that now all the events in my calendar where 4 hour out. so i went in and changed the timezone in my calendar to match the timezone on my phone, and moved all my events up 4 hours.
I know its not a fix, but until rogers does something about this it will work
There's an app on the market called SmsFixTimes that I wrote to help with this problem, until Rogers or HTC fixes the firmware. This is just a regular app, no hacks or anything else required. You should be aware, though, that it has only been tested by me so far, so it is at least possible that it could change the timestamps to something completely unexpected... you've been warned.
The app listens for incoming SMS messages and adjusts the timestamp to your phone's configured time zone automatically. The notification in the top bar is still wrong, but when you click on the message it will have the right time. If you run the app from the main app list, it will also go back and fix all of your saved messages (but only do that once! And maybe wait for an incoming message first, to see what happens!).
Since this is just a regular app, if you want it to stop you simply have to uninstall it from your phone. Comments and suggestions are welcome.
Hey natmanz, I've been checking on the Market since your post, and still no sign of SmsFixTimes. Is it just me, or has it not shown up yet?
[Edit: It finally showed up.]
Fix coming mid-august
I just spoke with a Rogers rep who told me that HTC are currently working on a patch that should be ready mid-August. Until then there's nothing that can be done aside from changing the time on your phone or using chompSMS as an alternative
Its fine for a while, up until you go past a few hundred messages in the thread. IE its me and my friend firing off during summer classes, and while its my solid wall of sent sms, and then his wall of sms, after a certain point it becomes 5 of mine, one of his, then none of mine for the next 50 in the thread. Annoying.
...Rogers. Bane of my existance. Bold works fine, iPhone works fine, maybe this is a sign that Rogers isn't giving enough of a ****? Because if it was a berry or iphone theyd be all over it. thank god bell/telus are going gsm, I can take my nice phones and business elsewhere, and fyi cant speak for telus but bells service on my omnia, rocks.

Text messages are coming in at wrong time

I've seen some threads about the text messages coming in at the wrong time but at XX hours behind, being like a time zone thing or something, but I have it where the texts come in 2 - 3 minutes behind when they should do.
I love the conversational text messaging, but this is really bugging me cos it's throwing the order off massively!
I've done hard resets and soft resets but it just still doesn't have the right time. HELP PLEASE!!!!
same here ...
goth_boarder said:
I've seen some threads about the text messages coming in at the wrong time but at XX hours behind, being like a time zone thing or something, but I have it where the texts come in 2 - 3 minutes behind when they should do.
I love the conversational text messaging, but this is really bugging me cos it's throwing the order off massively!
I've done hard resets and soft resets but it just still doesn't have the right time. HELP PLEASE!!!!
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Well now when I try sending texts to myself, they just don't come through. Says they're sent but they're not, and just not getting them through. I'm on O2 UK
Damn this phone sucks!! I only got it on Wednesday too.
Me too, I'm on O2, if i send one to myself i get it more or less straight away but its a hour in front. My clock is set right and it says its sent at the correct time? Is anyone else who is on O2 receiving texts at the 'correct' time?
Weird, just sent myself one and its back to the correct time!
padlad said:
Me too, I'm on O2, if i send one to myself i get it more or less straight away but its a hour in front. My clock is set right and it says its sent at the correct time? Is anyone else who is on O2 receiving texts at the 'correct' time?
Weird, just sent myself one and its back to the correct time!
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Urgh, I reckon I'm gonna do an exchange in the 28 day period when we get them back in stock and see if that sorts all, or at least most, the problems out, just having a new phone from new batch.
i had this problem.... tooo
it really terrbile as i wont able to know which is my sms with his reply
Ive got this too, i'm on O2 UK and messages i receive are all 2-3 minutes too early and so put the text conversation out of sync.
This has happened a couple of times to me, but usually leaving the SMS app and then going back in fixes it.
Either that or the person who you're texting has the time wrong on their phone.
ya they maybe set wrong timing.. but is petty hard to find ppl who had the time timing as ur hahah
so the sms should be basic on our clock
i used to have screwed up SMS conversations too. you guys can try installing the SMS fix. it is working for me for now.
SMS fix from where??
from HTC.com
i installed but it doesnt not fix for me
Any chance there's a daylight savings time mix up?
no... my time was setting correctly..
there is only one clock setting how can it mix up??
somemore is from same zone..
no fix for this?
I have had this problem too.
Try setting your clock right...
You can do something like: when receiving a message check its time and change yours to match that one...
It should solve the problem.
i just got the tmo us hd2 and it seems only after midnight some peoples texts start coming in a day previously. i just had 3 conversations and one person came at the right time, and the other 2 came as if they were 24 hours behind
I've had the same problem recently, I just assumed it was an O2UK problem, I had it very occasionally with my Diamond.
It's fine at the moment, so I just put it down to peak text time. Lol.
*edit* HA! I just got a text as a was writing this post, it's now 10:15am and the text is time stamped 08:53am, I should have touched wood!
goth_boarder said:
Well now when I try sending texts to myself, they just don't come through. Says they're sent but they're not, and just not getting them through. I'm on O2 UK
Damn this phone sucks!! I only got it on Wednesday too.
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Sorry but htis has nothing to do with the phone.
Im on O2 germany and everything works fine.
Maybe your setup was wrong or your provider has an issue.
SMS faults are mainly providerissues.
I dont know which rom you are using but i dont have any issue with the updated stock rom.

Texts coming in <<160chars

I just bought my EVO last week, and can't figure out why SMS messages are coming in as small chunks, in jumbled order. This isn't just splitting up at a 160char limit. I'll get the first 40 chars, then chars 80-140, then 41-79, then 141-160. etc
What is going on?
Never heard of that problem
Swyped From Eva Running Myn's RLS4!
Leave it to me to uncover a new error! Can't even find anything about this in a Google search.
I am occasionally having the same problem. I am using shadySMS so I thought it was related to that program. Are you using the stock messaging app?
No, I prefer Handcent but the stock messaging app does the same thing
The other thing that happens is that I wont get any texts for a while. And then all of sudden I will get multiple texts all at once. It's almost like the phone is not polling or connecting or whatever and then it connects and downloads everything. I wonder if this is related.
wiltok said:
The other thing that happens is that I wont get any texts for a while. And then all of sudden I will get multiple texts all at once. It's almost like the phone is not polling or connecting or whatever and then it connects and downloads everything. I wonder if this is related.
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I don't think I'm having that problem. Texts seems to come in real-time. So maybe that is unrelated. Never know, though.
probably just spotty service during the Holidays.
I'm with Cricket (piggybacks off Sprint) in Raleigh and have been having some wonky SMS behavior as well.
I'm not sure how spotty service would cause texts to come in, in small batches. And a strong coincidence it began when I switched from a HTC Hero to HTC Evo
XDA, I am disappoint!
No one has heard of this problem?
Ok so now I'm not even getting text messages >160chars. I called sprint and they had me turn off the phone for 3 mins while they reset something on their end and still - I only get short texts.

Text message times incorrect

Has anyone noticed the timestamps in texts being incorrect? I've gotten a few lately that were only off by a couple of minutes, but my reply shows the right timestamp. For example, I get a text at 11:03, but it shows it comes in at 11:05, and my reply goes out at 11:04 so it shows it before the message I was replying too.
I'm not roaming, so I don't think that's the cause (it tends to be quite a bit worse when roaming or with very little signal)
tatonka_hero said:
Has anyone noticed the timestamps in texts being incorrect? I've gotten a few lately that were only off by a couple of minutes, but my reply shows the right timestamp. For example, I get a text at 11:03, but it shows it comes in at 11:05, and my reply goes out at 11:04 so it shows it before the message I was replying too.
I'm not roaming, so I don't think that's the cause (it tends to be quite a bit worse when roaming or with very little signal)
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So far I haven't noticed that. It could be something to do with the other person's clock, if they're on roaming or using a 3rd party app that for whatever reason has the time wrong, or from a different carrier that has the time set differently than Sprint. I believe messages are time stamped as they are sent, just a theory.
wardfan220 said:
So far I haven't noticed that. It could be something to do with the other person's clock, if they're on roaming or using a 3rd party app that for whatever reason has the time wrong, or from a different carrier that has the time set differently than Sprint. I believe messages are time stamped as they are sent, just a theory.
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well, considering the only person I've noticed it on (pretty much the only person i text regularly) is on Sprint, and works at the call center so she has very good service, that's probably not the issue. Although, I suppose since she's sending it from a blackberry that could be the issue.
tatonka_hero said:
well, considering the only person I've noticed it on (pretty much the only person i text regularly) is on Sprint, and works at the call center so she has very good service, that's probably not the issue. Although, I suppose since she's sending it from a blackberry that could be the issue.
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It was just a thought. But they probably have a repeater in the building to boost the signal. Could be that, check and see if it happens when she isn't in the building. My sister has a BB with US Cellular and I double checked, I don't get that with hers. Maybe they don't time stamp on send, but when it is received.
wardfan220 said:
It was just a thought. But they probably have a repeater in the building to boost the signal. Could be that, check and see if it happens when she isn't in the building. My sister has a BB with US Cellular and I double checked, I don't get that with hers. Maybe they don't time stamp on send, but when it is received.
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didn't even think of the repeater...that could be the problem. I'm like 5 feet from a repeater right now lol. Which was why it was funny when I called tech support trying to get the thing activated and they all asked "do you have good service", so I told them I probably had better signal than they did.
When I worked for an answering service company a long time ago, my supervisor took me on a tour of the place. In their computer room they had all kinds of stuff in there. This was back in the day when alpha numeric pagers were popular. When we transcribed what the caller said to type out and send it to a pager, one of the computer devices in the computer room held messages until its buffer filled or a certain amount of time elapsed. Then it would send a group of messages all out at the same time. Maybe that's what is happening with sprints hardware. Its holding texts and buffering them then shoots them out all at once in a group instead of one by one. That's my guess.
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When I worked for an answering service company a long time ago, my supervisor took me on a tour of the place. In their computer room they had all kinds of stuff in there. This was back in the day when alpha numeric pagers were popular. When we transcribed what the caller said to type out and send it to a pager, one of the computer devices in the computer room held messages until its buffer filled or a certain amount of time elapsed. Then it would send a group of messages all out at the same time. Maybe that's what is happening with sprints hardware. Its holding texts and buffering them then shoots them out all at once in a group instead of one by one. That's my guess.
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I remember those days, lol. I'm not sure if there is a buffer or not, messages between my family all go straight though from what I can tell. Then again there are tons of messages sent every second, so maybe the buffer is filled quickly. It's a good theory.
Do you have the Airrave or Airvana unit? If the Airvana that's probably the issue. Supposedly they (who?, dunno?!) are working on a firmware fix for that. Doesn't happen to everyone with the Airvana unit, but it happens often enough to be troublesome.
tatonka_hero said:
Has anyone noticed the timestamps in texts being incorrect? I've gotten a few lately that were only off by a couple of minutes, but my reply shows the right timestamp. For example, I get a text at 11:03, but it shows it comes in at 11:05, and my reply goes out at 11:04 so it shows it before the message I was replying too.
I'm not roaming, so I don't think that's the cause (it tends to be quite a bit worse when roaming or with very little signal)
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I've had the same problem on my EVO and my shift. It is quite annoying when sending texts back and forth.
Ex. My friends text will say 11:06, but my clock says its only 11:05.
Sent from my PG06100 using XDA App
timestamps
They are wrong on mine, but so is the clock. I changed it manually. Problem solved, for me at least.
i get this where someone sends me a text, i reply, they reply to that afterwards but it gets put ABOVE my initial reply in the thread with them. blows my mind.

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