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I just installed 6.5, but I think I am going back to 6.1
CONS
MD2 is far superior in every way, especially when it comes to email, you can view headers and check multiple accounts quickly, it is much nicer too.
I hate the fact that I cant quickly access my recently used programs.
PROS
it feels a bit faster
Bottom Line
I really think that 6.5 is no big deal, just a bit of eye candy, its funny how microsoft paid big bucks for fashion designers to design some themes instead of investing a couple of thousand dollars for a decent UI expert, they never cease to amaze me with their stupidity.
it is a shame that everybody is going along with it, as if this is the next big thing, it is really a very small baby step. MD2 not to speak of MD3 are far superior in every way.
Have I missed something? What do you guys think?
Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...
kei78 said:
Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...
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Really? I am gonna try this. Last time I tried 6.5, I did not see M2D
just try nfsfans v8 6.5 rom, if that isnt a good enough reason for you to keep 6.5, then you need to switch to a crackberry
yup... under the today options...uncheck the default and check touchflo...
I didnt like the 6.5 gui either and went straight back to m2d in the options. Just updated to v8 for 6.5 a few moments ago and the options are there... I believe nfsfan had it in is roms for the last few versions...
kei78 said:
Which version of 6.5 did you install? The one nfsfan cooked up has m2d in it and thats what iam using... 6.5 w/ m2d as the GUI... i have noticed everything on my phone seems much easier/faster to work. No way id go back to 6.1...
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I use his rom, but MD2 is buggy in 6.5 (i tried v8 too)
I loved his ROM , it's best of both world, but i mainly use M2D , and also SPB Shell 3 , switch it back and forth.
I switched back to 6.1 simply because I hated 6.5's UI on the Today screen.
joe11211 said:
I use his rom, but MD2 is buggy in 6.5 (i tried v8 too)
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Buggy in which way? Can you eleborate?
I was using v6 r2 for almost two weeks and it was rock solid...then i switched over to v8 just the other day and again.... rock solid. If you find it "buggy" in his release you should make note of it so he can work on it and try and resolve those issues...
Personally it feels like m2d w6.1 but faster and more stable. Launching Garmin would take some time before hand, and now with 6.5, is 10x faster...
i dont particularly like the large icon start menu. is there anyway to change it to a smaller view of the icons?
I went back to 6.1.
Slingbox Mobile looks like ass using 6.5 unless I disabled both the 6.5 GUI and M2D. It's a big deal for me cause I use Sling a lot. Memory issues somewhere.
Other than that, I think 6.5 with M2D worked pretty good.
kei78 said:
Buggy in which way? Can you eleborate?
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see the screen shot please
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see the screen shot please
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that never happen to me i ahve the sprint touch works prefectly
what the.. with the purple thing lol
mine looks awesomee *_*
I don't know when you encountered that screen glitch, but I experienced a similar issue with NFSFAN's 6.5 rom after I changed themes. A soft reset always cleared up the problem for me.
Sophos1 said:
I don't know when you encountered that screen glitch, but I experienced a similar issue with NFSFAN's 6.5 rom after I changed themes. A soft reset always cleared up the problem for me.
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same thing here... its a problem with some of the themes.. not 6.5
and there is a way to get smaller icons. just seach the forums. its there somwhere in a 6.5 guide
dkl73 said:
I went back to 6.1.
Slingbox Mobile looks like ass using 6.5 unless I disabled both the 6.5 GUI and M2D. It's a big deal for me cause I use Sling a lot. Memory issues somewhere.
Other than that, I think 6.5 with M2D worked pretty good.
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What versions are you using?
Slingplayer mobile currently has these version that were just released
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Windows Pocket PC 1.6.0.114 (US)
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Windows Smartphone 1.6.0.62 (US)
* SlingPlayer Mobile for Palm OS 1.00.22 (US)
* Windows Mobile Downloads (UK)
As for an application not working correctly with a pre-release version of WinMO, thats hardly the Chefs fault as the Application might not have a version to even look at yet let alone develop for
What versions of WinMO 6.5 have you tried - different Chefs utilize different kitchens and different items and tweaks as well so without trying all of them you really dont know if one wouldnt work or all wouldnt
Up to you if you want the time to spend with it I dont use it as if I want to watch television, I watch it, if Im out and cant watch some show or event, well thats what bittorrent or hulu is for LOL
Detroit Doug
joe11211 said:
see the screen shot please
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have to agree here - thats an incompatible version of some theme on that ROM
Have seen it a few times myself, not the ROM thats for sure as it didnt occur when you first flashed and used the device, just after something was installed
Detroit Doug
ok so im still kinda new to the WM pro platform, been using the standars 6.5 for a while on my dash.
as of now im using the FingerMe Titanium Series V2 and its the only rom i can get to work well on my wing. on the other roms like the everything rom and the clear rom i notice after a lot of texting i cant get the text to load. i can get the clear rom to work but i gotta close the task after each text. i overclock to 240 and im using photo contacts pro.
any insight as to why im having such problems?
So like, after you send a text, the text itself doesn't load, or the text program doesn't load? If its the program, then I have always had that problem with WinMo on ANY device...not just the Wing.
the text program wont want to load after a few text, and that really annoys me cause then i gotta restart the phone, cause i cant even close it in the task manager.
i have never had this problem with my tmobile dash running the 3vo rom.
but since ive been using the finger me rom, i have not had this problem. and i text ALOT.
but with the finger me rom, i have trouble getting the bluetooth to scync up
Hmm...I dunno...I never had this particular problem on the Shav3d WM6.5.1 ROM that I was using, but I have had it on pretty much everyother WinMo device that I have ever owned.
As has been noted around the forums, the Manila messaging client (although handy and nice looking) is a laggy piece of software when it starts to have more than around 20 SMS's.
What we need is a program that would scan the SMS', and if there is more than 20, the 21st onwards get moved to an archive folder. Similar to what the iPhone does. Trying to handle 200+ messages is a real headache. (I used to dabble in 500+ plus delete down to 20-30 now)
On the most powerful phone, the HD2, a simple messaging app lags to hell so I have to disable the Manila messaging client and use the standard WinMo one, although practical, isn't very intuitive.
not any interest in anything like this?
I used to have issues with the SMS lag on the HD2 and was manually archiving using MyPhone, which is great for that.
However, that was when I was using stock ROMs (or <= 1.66 ROMs at least).
I flashed one of Dutty's ROMs (HG v0.8) because I wanted all the Sense upgrades, and all my SMS problems have now gone. I've got over 500 SMS on my phone at the minute, and it exhibits no lag whatsoever.
Maybe look at a new ROM. I would strongly recommend a 2.0+ ROM as they seem a lot more stable than the earlier ones.
Hope this helps
johncmolyneux said:
I used to have issues with the SMS lag on the HD2 and was manually archiving using MyPhone, which is great for that.
However, that was when I was using stock ROMs (or <= 1.66 ROMs at least).
I flashed one of Dutty's ROMs (HG v0.8) because I wanted all the Sense upgrades, and all my SMS problems have now gone. I've got over 500 SMS on my phone at the minute, and it exhibits no lag whatsoever.
Maybe look at a new ROM. I would strongly recommend a 2.0+ ROM as they seem a lot more stable than the earlier ones.
Hope this helps
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Using OzROM 3.02 atm and yeah, it's cleared it up somewhat, but still noticeable
Santaria said:
Using OzROM 3.02 atm and yeah, it's cleared it up somewhat, but still noticeable
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It's a start at least. Maybe Dutty did some "special magic" with his Holy Grail ROM. Ah well, keep going mate - you'll sort it.
johncmolyneux said:
I used to have issues with the SMS lag on the HD2 and was manually archiving using MyPhone, which is great for that.
However, that was when I was using stock ROMs (or <= 1.66 ROMs at least).
I flashed one of Dutty's ROMs (HG v0.8) because I wanted all the Sense upgrades, and all my SMS problems have now gone. I've got over 500 SMS on my phone at the minute, and it exhibits no lag whatsoever.
Maybe look at a new ROM. I would strongly recommend a 2.0+ ROM as they seem a lot more stable than the earlier ones.
Hope this helps
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Can you show us how is the messaging client on Dutty's Rom ?
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Can you show us how is the messaging client on Dutty's Rom ?
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It's the HTC messaging client - it's not a different one. It's just a newer build.
The HTC Messaging Client 2014 ?
This is the last one, and my 40 SMS are enough to slow down the phone when opening the messaging client.
My Build is 2014.2230.
I see on another topic that is e 2014.2622, you have this one ?
I saw on another WinMo 6.5's ROM that the messaging client was the same one on WinMo 6.1. The messages are sort 10 per page, so the loading time is merely inexistant.
Can someone confirm that ?
Notification Delay FIX
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Ok, I decided not to wait til tomorrow, well technically for me it is (4am). Here is the long awaited fix.
*DISCLAIMER*
I am in no way responsible for damage to your phone, software breakages, Temper flares, or Hiccups, or Brain Farts. You are freely attemping to fix the notification relay delay based on what is being attached to this post knowing the risks.
Compatible with: HD2/Leo & Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2
Notification Enhancement Build 2011.3730.
Nothing has been added nor removed. This will fix the HTC notification, especially for SMS delay. This Build is only for HD2/Leo Roms 1.72 or Higher, & Touch Pro 2/Tilt2 Roms 2.07 or Higher Do not know if this will work on lower build roms, but see no reason why not.
I have removed the option to choose where to install so there is no mistake. There is the option of uninstalling this fix should it not work, or renders anything possibly to lock up or not work properly. I would suggest to make sure messaging client is not running when instaling.
If for some reason the cab fails to install claiming you dont have permissions, copy the cab to your device and run it from there, this seems to resolve the permission issue for some reason.
This fix does not remove the Msg Sent notification that seems to be default, if you wish to not have this notification, edit this line in the registry:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Jataayu\Messaging]
"DisableSMSSuccess"=dword:1
Known Bugs:
None Known or detected.
Known Issues:
May not work with Arcsoft Messaging system, has not been tested. Only has been tested with HTC/Jayaayu (AKA: Commviva) Client.
All comments welcome, Good, Bad, or Ugly.
Enjoy everyone.
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wat delay are u talking about my dear??.....is it the message loading delay in HTC MESSAGE??
yea please confirm what issue this is fixing? cheers
Agreed, clarification on exactly what this fixes is needed.
+1 for clarification, cuz if this will fix the lag caused when a message is coming in i would love it!
not the same lag issue i was thinking of. i hope it works for those guys though they seem very irritated!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641902
Explains all.
Thanks for the explanation, didn't even know that problem exsisted . I hope your fix works for people suffering from this problem.
i've been getting that on 1.66 but it's a bit intermitant. i'll download and test it over a few days and report back
Personnally i've this "lag" after sent message slow to return to home...
You think your cab can help me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJTXefa9PPE
some how i doubt it because that is caused by the messaging application itself. I have this too and i also have the slow load issue when a contact has more than 20 messages associated with it (i have one that has 2364+ (growing even as we speak))I installed netripper's LCS app which improved it but it's still not as fast as my diamond with the default 6.1 messaging app. I've also got the slow to allow typing problem and none of the tricks i've seen help with that one.
Ok lol
So waiting a proper HTC messaging client
G-ThGraf said:
Personnally i've this "lag" after sent message slow to return to home...
You think your cab can help me?
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I've just installed this onto my HD2 and i think that this cab doesnt solve that problem, but improves the ability to type faster when messaging thread reaches a higher number, as before typing would have been laggy for me, when the message thread reaches 50+ messages. Well, thats what i've experienced anyway.
Didn't i say that without even installing it? Yeah, i did, in post 11. This is for the notification system only i.e the sound that plays when you get a text message or mms. This patch doesn't fix any of the many other problems there are with HTC's - frankly ****ty - messaging program. Why HTC found what microsoft found good enough for the last 2 versions of WM wasn't good enough for them i have no idea because that works well and now includes exchange synchronisation support for sms messages (if you have exchange 2010 and outlook 2010) and almost all the other WM 6.5 partners are using it.
In fact i think i just convinced myself to install the hack that allows Sense to use the WM default (outlook style) messaging UI instead but i will try this first.
G-ThGraf said:
Personnally i've this "lag" after sent message slow to return to home...
You think your cab can help me?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJTXefa9PPE
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Looking at your video, that doesnt look like a stock rom. After sending a sms I dont have that problem with the home screen freezing.
Again This is for the notification problem only. Depending on your rom, the Newest Msg client that works best so far is: HTCMessaging_Client_SKT_1_5_20143724, but its in Korean, which isnt a big deal either. The lag is still there, but allows you to type without having to wait for the msgs to load. So far no magic bullet has been found yet.
Sadly it isn't working for me
tested on
Touch HD:
Blackstonhenge 1.5 Hyper WM 6.5.5 Manila 2.5 - HTC Messaging (Client 3625,2622, modified Client by Wajk - i guess it's 3625) with Radio 1.14 / 1.15 / 1.17
Blackstonhenge 1.6 Hyper WM 6.5.5 Manila 2.5 - HTC Messaging (Client 3625 (?) edited by Wajk, new Version)
Notification in Standby (Screen off):
- on Batteryusage: no Textmessage Notifications (but MMS/E-Mail/... will work)
- while plugged into Charger: Notifications work
But as far as you did this cab, you must have an Idea what the Reason for this Bug is, can you please tell me what exactly your Cab-file does change? Im also looking for a Solution to fix this Bug, would be good to know your Suspicion. I wont take any Credit if i will find something usefull, just wanna get this working
apsis said:
Sadly it isn't working for me
tested on
Touch HD:
Blackstonhenge 1.5 Hyper WM 6.5.5 Manila 2.5 - HTC Messaging (Client 3625,2622, modified Client by Wajk - i guess it's 3625) with Radio 1.14 / 1.15 / 1.17
Blackstonhenge 1.6 Hyper WM 6.5.5 Manila 2.5 - HTC Messaging (Client 3625 (?) edited by Wajk, new Version)
Notification in Standby (Screen off):
- on Batteryusage: no Textmessage Notifications (but MMS/E-Mail/... will work)
- while plugged into Charger: Notifications work
But as far as you did this cab, you must have an Idea what the Reason for this Bug is, can you please tell me what exactly your Cab-file does change? Im also looking for a Solution to fix this Bug, would be good to know your Suspicion. I wont take any Credit if i will find something usefull, just wanna get this working
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Okay the cab really is nothing special, I have 3 rom builds, HD's 1.72 (Telstra), 2.13 ToMoUS and the TP2 2.07. The ToMoUS Rom has the Notification problem, which seems to be with the Notification Enhancement Package. The TP2 2.07.401 didnt have this issue, and the Telstra 1.72 doesnt seem to have this issue, so I tested changing this package alone, and found that the 2.13 rom has this problem. But take note, that this was tested on the TP2 on a stock 2.07.401 TP2 rom. I was taking the HD2 packages and putting it into the TP2 rom, thats how I found this to be the cause. I first installed all the packages from the 2.13 rom into the TP2 and it started happening, thats when I went searching for what it could be, and for me, the Telstra 1.72 rom and TP2 2.07.401 Notification Enhancement packages works.
Also note, I do not know if this will work with custom roms, due to the fact that alot of custom roms use the arcsoft messaging program, not the htc. Again mine is stock rom interchanging the packages.
Yea i was looking at your Cabfile. I also think that my Problem is the cause from HTC Settings Enhancement. Setting something within the Notificationsetting under the Manila Settingstab, doesnt affect my Windows Mobile Sounds and Notification Setting...
Under HKLM -> Software -> HTC -> HTCSettings_Imrovement i found some strange things:
Current_DisplayTime : shows a wrong time
DefaultSound_NewTextMsg : there was something different than i had selected
NotifySound_SupportFilterSound : dont know what it does, but is set to 1
SoundOption_AllEnableEvent : is dissabled ...
SoundOption_Intialized : enabled
and under HKLM -> Software -> HTC -> HTCSettings_Imrovement -> DisabledSoundFile : there are a few Entries, but why are they disabled?
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solved now,i removed HTC Messaging and installed the HTC Messaging Client from NRG and his NRG-Roms, this one works for me, now my Notifications are back
So, is this available for tilt 2?? Will it run without breaking it?
showthread.php?t=700495
on xda-developers forum because i'm a new member and I can't post links!
Thanks
Eh not sure but I say if the current native WM SMS client works, then why fix what's not broken?
I love the speed and simplicity of it ;p.
Well, my primary problem with the primary messenging software is that it is sooooo slow! It takes forever to open a conversation, and then the softkeyboard opens, closes, then opens again. so annoying.
ideas?
what are the specifications of the rom you are using?
is it using manila 2.5?
just tried it, hard resetting, I would say stay away from it
Thanks supernova, I think you saved a lot of us a lot of trouble lol!!!
Thanks a lot!
Smith
smithisize said:
Thanks supernova, I think you saved a lot of us a lot of trouble lol!!!
Thanks a lot!
Smith
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:-D no problem I was hopping it would work too, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617142 that rom has virsion 1.5 built into it, it works grate.
What is the difference between HTC messenger and default WinMo messenger? Because my Tilt 2 has the HTC keyboard and stuff, idk if it has messenger though.
In your opinion, is it worth the ROM flash?? I've never done it before, and there's plenty of info to do it so that's nto a problem, but just wondering!
Regards
Smith
In my opinion it is well worth it, this is actually the 1st rom I have flashed that used this messenger and I like it a lot, my fav part is it actually closes and opens when you want it to insted of clicking it and waiting plus for some reason I perfer Windows 6.5.5 to the 6.5.3.
Your sig says you're using Cell Pro 8.1, but I only see up to version 1.3 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617142&highlight=cell+pro
Where did you get your ROM from?
Thanks
Smith
I am using fring...
Difference between hTC messenger and Windows
Windows Messenger uses iFrames (slow)
htc messenger looks like it uses program windows instead, but it does have problems reading from the Messaging database last time i checked(send a message and wont see it on screen for a little) but the Windows mobile messenger does sometimes freeze when its loading from the messaging database, and the program becomes unstable and wont open again without a softreset.
htc messenger looks like it belongs with sense, and Windows messaging looks like Windows messaging (outlook) blech..
htc messenger consumes a little more RAM and is believed to cause some lag problems, but Windows messenger isnt believed to exhibit either.
Im gonna install the new Htc messenger now and give it a go and ill repost here. Im using energyrom GTX
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Your sig says you're using Cell Pro 8.1, but I only see up to version 1.3 here: [url .bnnvhguty
Smith
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im am using 1.2, i dont update my sig a lot sorry for the mix up
Awesome
I'm pretty excited to flash to a different ROM, because I just had to do a hard reset today lol so maybe a custom ROM will be more stable
yea they usualy are more stable, 3 thinks you should test as soon as you flash lol 1: make sure you can send MMS. 2: Make sure you can recive MMS 3: make sure the data connection works.
nothing quite like getting everything set up and loaded only to figure out the MMS dosent work and you cant figure out why lol
Just updated to Cell Pro 1.2 ... INCREDIBLE!!!
SO much faster than stock, way more features, easier to use, and a lot less crap!
You guys rule haha thanks!
Regards
Smith
I have to say the htc messaging 1.8 (build 2015 and 2016 depending on what your rom needs) runs way way better then the old version. No more lag, pictures actually have a thumbnail preview in the messaging window, secure box... just awesome
Well I'm running Cell Pro 1.2 so idk if it'll take the new one??
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Well I'm running Cell Pro 1.2 so idk if it'll take the new one??
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Find out if the rom is using a 2015 or 1016 manila build. If so then yes you can use the new one.
Ok, my ROM is using manila v 2.5.20122227, so I cannot use the new messenger?
From the sounds of it, it would be a great thing to have, so if I cannot use the new messenger, how could I change my version of manila to be compatible?
Thanks
Smith