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Hi,
there are 5 levels for the backlight.
I see a clear difference going fromn 1 to 3 but no difference when I go from 3 to 5.
Any of you experienced this ?
Another question:
The power-setting management is such that the backlight is reduced after some time. If I am on level 3, the backlight is reduced automatically down to a light intensity, which corresponds to a level of 2. Why not 1 ?
Nonody ???
Nobody ??? (sorry)
ratoto said:
Hi,
there are 5 levels for the backlight.
I see a clear difference going fromn 1 to 3 but no difference when I go from 3 to 5.
Any of you experienced this ?
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mine has a big difference from 1-3 and a small difference from 3-5, but there is a difference.
ratoto said:
Another question:
The power-setting management is such that the backlight is reduced after some time. If I am on level 3, the backlight is reduced automatically down to a light intensity, which corresponds to a level of 2. Why not 1 ?
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mines set to "turn off backlight" after 30 seconds. After that it drops to level 1 brighness. Not sure why yours is at lvl 2
ratoto said:
Hi,
there are 5 levels for the backlight.
I see a clear difference going fromn 1 to 3 but no difference when I go from 3 to 5.
Any of you experienced this ?
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i'm playing with some REG value and remembered your question
here is a nice one
open a REG edit
then go
HKCU/control panel/backlight/
edit the value of "max brightness" from 4 to 8
you will get more levels of brightness and if you keep it low but good for your use it will save battery
the jump between level 2 to 3 is still strong but not as much as …
FREE REG EDIT APP
http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/
Thanks for the answer. I will try .
thanks EREZYAD, made the changes and it gave me the extra settings, but the jump is very small, so i went back to the default settings.
One thing i noticed though is even the lowest setting is rather bright. is there a way to make it darker?
my ipaq 6828 when set on the min setting was almost black.
thebranded said:
my ipaq 6828 when set on the min setting was almost black.
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I HAVE IT ALSO , YOU NEED THIS ONE
http://www.mobiletopsoft.com/board/1313/turn-your-pocket-pc-screen-off-with-awady-screenoff.html
HAVING MORE LEVELS IS GOOD FOR MIN LIGHT - BATTERY...
On my HP 614 all screen off programs just blank the screen, but backlight is still on in this low level 1 (or 2). Also when I configure in setting switch off backlight after 30 seconds, it will not switch backlight off, but to low level.
Why is that? Normally it shut be completely off, both - screen and backlight.
I was told on HP support that's a feature. But I'm sure it's bug.
yeah the back light stays on just the screen "displays" a black image
you can see the back light shining around the edges and the screen looks more grey than black.
I dont think you can ever switch of the backlight without pressing the on/off button
Have a problem with my 614c, when is charging, and display goes off after some time, it wont go on when i press the display button, just keyboard lightens, display goes on when i unplug it from power
i have not seen that happen to me.
its not the slide show but with no pics so it showing a black screen right?
Maybe a hard reset (backup ALL data first) ?
Hi!
I wonder if there is a way to lower the backlight levels on auto adjust (or increase for those who think its still not bright enough). Point is I think having the backlight on generally lower levels will naturally increase battery life. I know I can change the the brightness to a fixed level that suits me - but that would just be right for the current situation. I still want it to adjust to different lighting situations. Ideas?
It would be nice if it was possible to change how dim the backlight gets on total darkness and how bright it gets on your average sunny day.
I've been messing around with the reg to see if I could find max and min values but I can only change manual settings, not auto mode using the light sensor.
One note though: The sensor itself uses battery to measure ambient light. That being said, if you spend most of the day under a constant light source (say an office) manually dimming the device should consume less energy since the sensor is not doing much good for you anyway.
I guess it's not your case. I had this app on my Cruise to change backlight intensity. never used until now. it works on leo (running 1.48 but that should not matter) and changes backlight in 25% increments. You can copy a shortcut to the startmenu and add a quick link to your home tab or map it to a hard or soft button somehow.
I wold really like to know how to change max and min levels on auto backlight.
Try Lumos - it's a backlight replacement that allows you to customise how you want your auto backlight to work, ie. what the minimum/maximum brightness is, how fast the backlight changes, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450318
Seems to work fine. Still some tunning to do. Thanks!
I'm using Lumos now and it works great! Simple to set up and easy to customize. Thanks for the hint!
lumos is great but I found it was draining the battery quite fast on the leo.
Admittedly I was using it with the wm6.5 Check for active programme only setting. I never tested it to see if it worked without checking that box.
As far as I can tell by now the batterylife appears to be rather better than before. I haven't put in any application exceptions and didn't check the one checkbox in the settings tab. I also use a custom curve where the backlight stays at 30% until the sensor hits about 400 (30% is plenty in my opinion and still brighter than my friend's iphone in normal light condition inside).
you should try AutoLight http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=548402
it works fine on Leo
As far as the automatic backlight setting goes, it is my understanding that the phone should check how bright (or dark) it is, and adjust the display brightness accordingly (brighter when out in the sun, darker when sitting indoors / dark rooms).
However, it seems to me it just sets the backlight at ~40% and that's it. I went out into the sun with my HD2, and the brightness didn't change and I had trouble seeing what was on the screen.
Is there some kind of way I could test, if the light sensor is working? Or is this setting simply badly designed and I should set the brightness myself?
I'm currently running latest Energy ROM (23569 Cookie May 09) but it was the same with the stock ROM, so I don't think it's related.
PS. A little side question, if I may; if I perform task 29 before flashing... do I still need to do a hard reset after flashing a new ROM?
...in the very least... are there any apps that make use of the light sensor?
Well I know the acctualy percentage in the settings never changes when its on auto (atleast not for me)
But I can clearly tell a difference between being in a dark room and the backlight being on low
to being in the sun and it on max.
Ive also never had trouble reading the screen, the screen is always plenty bright enough.
Prehaps you've got a bad one?
Shaamaan said:
...in the very least... are there any apps that make use of the light sensor?
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I know an app that can measure the amount of light in lumers.
lonelykatana said:
I know an app that can measure the amount of light in lumers.
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Care to share the name of that app?
Also, it's difficult for me to say if the screen is busted or not. On max brightness (as opposed to the automatic setting) it's a lot more comfortable to look at in the sun, albeit indoors it's OK on any setting really.
EDIT: I don't suppose the automatic setting can be tweaked for better performance via some registry changes?
Shaamaan said:
Care to share the name of that app?
Also, it's difficult for me to say if the screen is busted or not. On max brightness (as opposed to the automatic setting) it's a lot more comfortable to look at in the sun, albeit indoors it's OK on any setting really.
EDIT: I don't suppose the automatic setting can be tweaked for better performance via some registry changes?
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I think it's called Lumos.
Try searching for it.
You certainly can test it. Just cover the light sensor (upper left corner above the screen) with something. I don't recommend thumb, as you might press 'start' button. You will also need any application with white background.
The brightness should clearly drop.
Auto only sets the brightness from 20% to 60% (or so it seems). But the effect is clearly visible.
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You certainly can test it. Just cover the light sensor (upper left corner above the screen) with something. I don't recommend thumb, as you might press 'start' button. You will also need any application with white background.
The brightness should clearly drop.
Auto only sets the brightness from 20% to 60% (or so it seems). But the effect is clearly visible.
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No change at all.
I'll restore the stock ROM to see if it's a firmware issue, and I'll check that Lumos application.
EDIT: Lumos clearly detects light changes and works well. Seems it's either something to do with Energy ROM after all or possibly I'm just blind and I can't see any changes. I'm still going to check the stock ROM, just to be safe.
BTW, once more, can someone tell me quickly if hard resets are needed after task 29?
EDIT 2: OK, it DOES work after all, I'm just blind; the change however, on the automatic settings, is minimal. I actually had to put the phone under a light-bulb, as covering the sensor didn't really work. I wonder if it should be calibrated like the g-sensor...
night time
i think the day time brightness is fine but the night time setting is far to bright. i would love for this to be customizable as well
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Auto only sets the brightness from 20% to 60% (or so it seems).
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Can this range be increased?
For indoor use the auto-adjust works fine for day/evening/night, but outside I always need to turn off the auto-adjust, so it can go to 100%. When back indoor again, then switch to auto again and so on ... and so on ... and ...
Just installed .NET CF + Lumos and will see how it works out.
.NET CF for laptop and automatic install to HD2 via ActiveSync:
microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=E3821449-3C6B-42F1-9FD9-0041345B3385&displaylang=en
Latest Lumos v10 RC2:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450318
Hi all,
On a number of occasions, I've used Market apps to control the screen brightness, either manually (like a brightness widget) or scheduled (using Timeriffic - a great tool for automatic profile changes throughout the day).
Apparently, these apps are not aware of the correct minimum brightness supported by the Leo, making it too easy to go too low, which essentially disables the display completely.
Touch still works, so if I'm lucky enough to remember the location of the widget/slider/controls, I may be able to turn brightness back up to a "sane" level.
For example, Timeriffic turns the screen off with a brightness level of 10% - 15% is the lowest working setting.
If I'm unable to fix it this way, I'm basically forced to reset. The problem is that Android *remembers* this setting after a reboot, and reapplies it just when the device is vibrated slightly at the "Android" logo animation. Thus, with a black screen, it is impossible for me to unlock the SIM, hard to unlock the screen lock, and virtually impossible to correct the brightness setting. I need to remove my data.img ("hard resetting" Android) and restore what I can from backups.
The problem also seems to occur with the standard screen dimming which occurs at about half time before the "screen off" setting. I can see the display start to dim, then it suddeny turns off. In this case, however, Android of course reverts to normal brightness at the touch of the screen or press of a button.
On a related note, I have experienced (like right now) that brightness range used by Android is much dimmer then normal. That is, using the regular brightness slider in Settings, I can only vary between almost invisible (min) and quite dim (max). Curiously, in this situation, the display can get *much* dimmer than normal, without becoming disabled.
Any ideas on these issues would be most welcome!
Workarounds found later in this thread:
- Shine a bright light on the screen - the graphics are still there if you look really hard. It's not a joke!
- Use Screencast in Droid Explorer to "remote control" your Android
- adb shell "echo 255 >/sys/class/leds/lcd-backlight/brightness"
ugumba said:
Hi all,
On a number of occasions, I've used Market apps to control the screen brightness, either manually (like a brightness widget) or scheduled (using Timeriffic - a great tool for automatic profile changes throughout the day).
Apparently, these apps are not aware of the correct minimum brightness supported by the Leo, making it too easy to go too low, which essentially disables the display completely.
Touch still works, so if I'm lucky enough to remember the location of the widget/slider/controls, I may be able to turn brightness back up to a "sane" level.
For example, Timeriffic turns the screen off with a brightness level of 10% - 15% is the lowest working setting.
If I'm unable to fix it this way, I'm basically forced to reset. The problem is that Android *remembers* this setting after a reboot, and reapplies it just when the device is vibrated slightly at the "Android" logo animation. Thus, with a black screen, it is impossible for me to unlock the SIM, hard to unlock the screen lock, and virtually impossible to correct the brightness setting. I need to remove my data.img ("hard resetting" Android) and restore what I can from backups.
The problem also seems to occur with the standard screen dimming which occurs at about half time before the "screen off" setting. I can see the display start to dim, then it suddeny turns off. In this case, however, Android of course reverts to normal brightness at the touch of the screen or press of a button.
On a related note, I have experienced (like right now) that brightness range used by Android is much dimmer then normal. That is, using the regular brightness slider in Settings, I can only vary between almost invisible (min) and quite dim (max). Curiously, in this situation, the display can get *much* dimmer than normal, without becoming disabled.
Any ideas on these issues would be most welcome!
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I don't know these app(s) but if they are writing their settings and configured values into a ini or settings file, than you might be able to connect via adb and change the setting by this way.
With tools like Droidexplorer or ADB magic, browsing through the files should be very comfortable and you might find the correct file.
this happens on regular android devices ...i have a couple of them
thatruth132 said:
this happens on regular android devices ...i have a couple of them
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What happens? That brightness is set too low, essentially disabling the screen, so you're forced to hard reset or perform some root magic? How do you cope with it? Or does it happen that the permitted brightness range is just dimmer than usual?
Btw, until there is no light-sensor support in kernel, you can't use such apps for the brightness
Stills a good advice
I have had the same issue with the brightness range being too low. The max brightness is really dim and the colors don't seem right. That may just be the dimming effect though. If I restart the phone it seems to take care of this. I have not had the screen go below the minimum level and turn off though.
is there a fix for this. i just experienced this problem
I experienced the same with Multicon widgets.. had to delete Android and start over
somebully said:
I experienced the same with Multicon widgets.. had to delete Android and start over
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Oh wow, not good at all, crap...
so that means if i do that i'll lose everything huh?
Theres no way to restore the factory brightness or factory settings for the android?
aznsHD2 said:
Oh wow, not good at all, crap...
so that means if i do that i'll lose everything huh?
Theres no way to restore the factory brightness or factory settings for the android?
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As long as you have a working WinMo it should be possible to edit the values of brightness, but I have no idea where this information is stored.
Deleting Android folder and unzipping again is esentially restoring to factory settings.
yea this happens to me all the time, its a *****. it cuts off at exactly 12% for me. what i do is have aldiko(a book reader) on the home screen. if i click on it and open a book i can just swipe on the left side of the screen to adjust brightness. since i know that its on the home screeen on the right side middle, i can usually find my way back to it.
somebully said:
As long as you have a working WinMo it should be possible to edit the values of brightness, but I have no idea where this information is stored.
Deleting Android folder and unzipping again is esentially restoring to factory settings.
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which means that i'll lose everything such as data correct? new contacts etc. msgs...
any thing on this... isnt their a file in the android folder that i could maybe replace to restore to factory settings.
and could someone post a screen shot of their phone so i know where the numbers for the pin code lockscreen. tryin to get past that, then i can adjust my brightness
LOL I experienced it one time. And I must delete data.img to restore the phone. After this, I don't use any brightness tools (except ones already in the Android build).
If anyone have solution, please point us
Well i was able to get my screen back to normal. lol.
I didnt delete the data.img, i simply copied it and then removed it, started a fresh install, and then just marked on my screen where the numbers were, turned it off, put the old data.img back. Followed my marks, and was able to unlock it and then found the power control widget. And bam! screen back to bright...
This might work for you!
Erm... In similar circumstances I found this worked...
I was trying out different Android builds and I found a screen brightness widget. It had various available levels of brightness, one being 0%. As soon as I selected it I felt pretty stupid as true to it's word it gave me 0% brightness placing me in a similar position to the OP.
My Solution. I used my (very bright) led torch to light the screen. By playing around with the angle and beam width I found I could just make out the on screen graphics enough to re-adjust the brightness level.
Simples!
Just as " Justblair " said .. you can place your device under a very bright light thus you'll be able to see the screen and what it's showing .. idk what build you guys are using but in cyanogen you can adjust the lowest dim level so that any app or widget tries to set the brightness to 0% it's automatically set to your preset, 15% for instance.
I've only faced this problem once
Is it absolutely necessary to flood the main thread with all these useless noob posts?
It really has nothing to do with Android development on HD2 and should be posted in the General section IMO.
kawazaki said:
Just as " Justblair " said .. you can place your device under a very bright light thus you'll be able to see the screen and what it's showing .. idk what build you guys are using but in cyanogen you can adjust the lowest dim level so that any app or widget tries to set the brightness to 0% it's automatically set to your preset, 15% for instance.
I've only faced this problem once
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Cyanogen allows you a max dim level of 26 - which is too little on the HD2.
In Tasker, 30 is the lowest setting that still provides light. Maybe Cyanogen can be patched for the HD2 in coming builds?
Thanks for the tip on shining a bright light on the screen.
Another tip is to use Droid Explorer's "Screencast" feature, to view and control your Android's screen on your PC desktop. Of course, the brightness setting has no effect here.
I took off the automation for the screen brightness and I manually set it. However, after about a day and a half it changes by itself. I can not figure out what is changing it. I use Dolphin browser...but I don't think that is changing it. Does anyone why the screen brightness is not static?
for web browsing the brightness setting can be different then the phone itself .. idk if thats what u mean but just a little fyi ... since the update however if its set to auto ive found the web browsers brightness is not adjustable
dman777 said:
I took off the automation for the screen brightness and I manually set it. However, after about a day and a half it changes by itself. I can not figure out what is changing it. I use Dolphin browser...but I don't think that is changing it. Does anyone why the screen brightness is not static?
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For me it was doing the same thing till I noticed that the drop down curtain at the top of the screen is a manual brightness adjuster as well. If you happen to drop it down just enough to see the date and move your fringer to the right it brightens, if you move it to the left it dims. I found myself pulling it down and accidentally changing it alot until I figured out why. Since then it never changes now that I know to pull the curtain straight down and don't move left or right with it.
Another setting that I noticed would randomly adjust the backlight brightness is Settings -> Sound & Display -> Power Saving Mode. I've disabled this and my backlight no longer changes an I have noticed no difference in power consumption (with it checked or not, the display consumes a lot of power ;-)
TheMostToys said:
Another setting that I noticed would randomly adjust the backlight brightness is Settings -> Sound & Display -> Power Saving Mode. I've disabled this and my backlight no longer changes an I have noticed no difference in power consumption (with it checked or not, the display consumes a lot of power ;-)
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This was sooooo frustrating for me until I found that setting and unchecked it. When I turn off auto-brightness, I don't want the brightness changing unless I change it lol.
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For me it was doing the same thing till I noticed that the drop down curtain at the top of the screen is a manual brightness adjuster as well. If you happen to drop it down just enough to see the date and move your fringer to the right it brightens, if you move it to the left it dims. I found myself pulling it down and accidentally changing it alot until I figured out why. Since then it never changes now that I know to pull the curtain straight down and don't move left or right with it.
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That's gotta be it! Is there anyway to disable that?
dman777 said:
That's gotta be it! Is there anyway to disable that?
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setting it to auto brightness will
This sounds kind of funny when I had autobrightness and the powersaver automation on the battery would drain faster. When I turned it off the battery lasted longer.
Have you ever accidentally swiped on your notification bar? This will change the brightness and it's supposed to be some shortcut to change the brightness.
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dman777 said:
This sounds kind of funny when I had autobrightness and the powersaver automation on the battery would drain faster. When I turned it off the battery lasted longer.
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Same experience here. The auto-brightness really keeps the screen pretty bright at all times, it just dims it a little bit in dim lighting. If you set it manually, you can keep it dimmer than the auto-brightness will ever dim it.