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how do I get rid of the startmenu?

I think the Cube is much nicer and I don't want 2 different menu interfaces its only confusing so do someone know how to disable the old startmenu? or ultimate make the Cube appear when I press the windows button

there is no need for, just dont press the menu button
the cube would need 10 sides to have all of the startmenu. sometimes you NEED the menu
why should the cube open with menu button ? it opens with gesture.
sorry this thread makes no sense for me.
i disabled the cube its nothing more than a ram eating nice launcher. and Ultimatelaunch can do that better and is easy to customize.

One of the 3rd party start menu programs has 2 options, if you press the little windows flag it launches the normal wm menu, and if you press start it gives you big menu, i spose it would be nice if the windows flag could launch the cube (and maybe chaged to a little icon of a cube) and the start bar would launch the normal menu.

because the startmenu isn't fingerfriendly, and its ugly oldstyle, and it's not needed to have 2 menusystem
both cube and startmenu. Or actually there's 3 menusystem, if you count in launchers from todayscreen.
I guess iCube could replace old startmenu.
also windowsicon already looks like a cube

PeacefulWarrior said:
because the startmenu isn't fingerfriendly, and its ugly oldstyle, and it's not needed to have 2 menusystem
both cube and startmenu. Or actually there's 3 menusystem, if you count in launchers from todayscreen.
I guess iCube could replace old startmenu.
also windowsicon already looks like a cube
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I see you are asking this for several days now. in all kind of forums.
I don't have the answer for you, but i will tell you how i would try to find the reg key for example.
I would take a program that takes over the start button function ( quickmenu)
Then i will take a reg editor that can compare 2 registries (CEregeditor)
ok
step 1. make a copy of your registry
step 2. install quickmenu
step 3. compare your old registry with the new one and look wich regkey's quickmenu changed and added. (with the option to replace the windows startbutton on offcource)
step 4. try to find the "one" reg key change and try to make it so that it will start for example biotouch.exe
I hope i did get you started, as i'm not a programmer nor i hae any interest in the function you want to make, i will not try to do it myself therefor i wish you good luck with it and i hope for you that you will find it.
Greetz,

how do i get rid of senseless threads ? hehe

thank you re-mi I will try your description
regards

go to the link in my signature, download the Classblack zip file.. and take vjtogglealphaii from it and put it in your startup folder in "/windows/startup"
itll take off both your start menu and your softkeys... if you need to change anything message me ill tell you how to change the registry

[REQ] Port EnlargeStartMenu from Topaz

Hi
I´m wondering if somebody can port the EnlargeStartMenu from Topaz to VGA???
It´s on the video on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7OCyN1PuYc at 1:40 min
Or is there somewhere a better one that takes up the hole screen? In lines or in cubes...
PS: Sorry my English isn´t so good but I think you understand what I ment

DjMIKKI said:
Hi
I´m wondering if somebody can port the EnlargeStartMenu from Topaz to VGA???
It´s on the video on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7OCyN1PuYc at 1:40 min
Or is there somewhere a better one that takes up the hole screen? In lines or in cubes...
PS: Sorry my English isn´t so good but I think you understand what I ment
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It looks to me very much like the "Programs" tab. There must be a way to port your start menu items to the programs tab and then you could change your tab order so "programs" is first and act like your start menu, although that means losing your home tab as the main screen. Or maybe the "Start" button could be remapped to flip to the programs tab. (am I opening a can of worms here?)
Would this be possible, or can the programs tab only contain *.EXEs? If it was possible to contain different shortcuts, it would be nice if we could change the name of the tab to "Start" as well. Then the only difference would be the button you use to get to it (Providing the Start button isn't remapped).
So, my idea involves:
1. Finding a way to add things other than EXEs to the "Programs" tab
2. Remapping the "Start" button to make TF3D flip to the "Programs" tab
3. Remapping the right soft-key to open the start menu (so you can still get to it if you need it, but only from the Home tab)
4. Rename the "Programs" tab to "Start" somehow.
Damn, it sounded so much easier in my head...
Maybe porting the Topaz's Start Menu would be quicker!!!

Nice idea but I thought if we can add folders in to the programs tab of manilla (like settings folder and then it opens all settings like when you press on "all programs" in program tab in manilla). or something like that. That`s what I am after. Something like THE TOUCHXPERIENCE PROJECT. Sorry schaps if you have something against it just say it.
We don´t need the start menu at all if this can be done.

solved..!!??
hey guys
i think xboxmod (or a rom cooker) already solved this in his rhodium port for vga devices...
i just remember a post that says "program tab is mapped to start button"
dunno exactly use search engine
bye

"All Programs" link

Is there anyway to get an direct link to the "All Programs" link under the Programs tab so i can use it as a soft left or right key on my TF3D Home page?
I don't use the Programs tab, but love the program launcher when i click "All Programs"
I searched in the Windows folder and don't know what to search for.

you can use HD Tweak to do this as well as many other usefull things that will make the touch hd easier to use

HDTweak can only add the regular Windows programs to the shortcut, i'm after the HTC version.
I want to know what file it is cause i can't find it so i can link it myself.

Psygnosis84 said:
Is there anyway to get an direct link to the "All Programs" link under the Programs tab so i can use it as a soft left or right key on my TF3D Home page?
I don't use the Programs tab, but love the program launcher when i click "All Programs"
I searched in the Windows folder and don't know what to search for.
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Rigth on you! I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday! (I'm on a Diamond)
It would be perfect as an homescreen applauncher with great scroll feeling and zero loading time! without haveing to install a new app!
One thing I would like to see is a fast scroll alphabetic column on the right just like in contacts. other than that it is perfect!
I know about Touchlaunch but it has realy annoying loading time, and could not make the scrolling work satisfying.

Bump
come on! Someones got to know what file it is that opens the "All Programs" link!

[REQ] HTC Taskmanager improvement

Hi There,
If you ever used the "Close Button" plug-in from Spb Mobile Plus you prolly know what I mean...
The HTC Taskmanager looks all nice, I like it, but its only accessible on the Today Screen. Is there a way to make it accessible even when you're not on the today screen?
Sometimes when you're doing stuff you want to "alt-tab" to another program and this is an easy way to do it, or when you want to close another/all other programs.
I hope there's a solution because it really is an improvement to the taskmanager.

me too
sorry, no help here. I can only say "me too". I was actually just thinking about this today. I've had this phone for a few months, and it just today occurred to mr today that you can't close other open programs without going back to the today screen, only option is to "x" button back to today screen or hope that what you seek to close is in your start menu under 'recent items'.
any help or development would be super appreciated, thanks all.

There is a shortcut in the Settings folder in the Systems tab. However, I expect you don't want to go through all of that when you want to use it. As an alternative, you could use file explorer and go into the Windows folder, find the Task Manager program in there, copy it and past a shortcut in the Windows/Start Menu folder. Then it would be on your Start Menu. You would need to remove one other item if you were then over the allowed maximum number of items in there.
Is that accessible enough?

I'd rather not put it in my start menu cus there are other "important" shortcuts in there...
I'd rather have it in the upper right corner...

You could use WkTask
the best free taskmanager there is (not working on wm6.5)

whiskeybro said:
You could use WkTask
the best free taskmanager there is (not working on wm6.5)
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I tried it and I like it, Is there a way to make a backup of my settings?

It seems the program doesnt work as i wished it would. I worked with it for a while and I like the concept alot, but there's a major flaw. Sometimes when I make adjustments to, lets say, my alarm settings (winmo clock/alarms setings), and when I press [ok] the window minimizes (I set the one click to minimize), there's no way you can apply the changes because it will keep on running on the background. If I choose to close it then the changes wont apply. This occurs to many other programs I use in simular occasions when you need to press [ok] to apply settings.
I would still have a solution to the HTC taskbar though. I think I would prefer it over the WkTask taskmanager.

Any Chance for the Old Start Menu?

Hi,
I just installed the official 6.5 update but I think the WM 6.5 "Honeycomb" start menu is that damn slow when you got a lot of programs there. You have to scroll a lot and scrolling doesn't look very fluid.
Is there a way or a registry hack to get back the old HTC start menu that was delivered when the Diamond2 originally came out? The best would be if there where 4 icons in a row.
I've added a snapshot to show what I mean. Yes, as you can see on the snapshot I'm back to 6.1

My startmenu is very fluid to be honest, I got my programs and stuff sorted in folders. Like games, media (coreplayer etc), network (commanager etc), personal (phone, sms, email etc), GPS, system (total commander, resco explorer, reg edit etc). I will install SPB Screenshot and show you how it looks.

Here you go.

metacortexx said:
Hi,
I just installed the official 6.5 update but I think the WM 6.5 "Honeycomb" start menu is that damn slow when you got a lot of programs there. You have to scroll a lot and scrolling doesn't look very fluid.
Is there a way or a registry hack to get back the old HTC start menu that was delivered when the Diamond2 originally came out? The best would be if there where 4 icons in a row.
I've added a snapshot to show what I mean. Yes, as you can see on the snapshot I'm back to 6.1
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Its still there under the programs tab... ? or at least it is on mine...

sorry if this is a noob question, but how do i add folders to the start menu like you've done? and change icons?

I have done the same thing that you have done, Created folders in the start menu, to do this you just go to windows/startmenu and create folders in there.
However every time I soft reset my device, extra icons appear on the main start page screen. Is there any way to remove these?
I would love to go back to the HTC Start Menu as it was so much better, I know it is on a Tab on Touch Flow 3D but it defeats the point in having a hardware button to launch programs!

colin_85 said:
I have done the same thing that you have done, Created folders in the start menu, to do this you just go to windows/startmenu and create folders in there.
However every time I soft reset my device, extra icons appear on the main start page screen. Is there any way to remove these?
I would love to go back to the HTC Start Menu as it was so much better, I know it is on a Tab on Touch Flow 3D but it defeats the point in having a hardware button to launch programs!
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I totally agree. The current Startmenu lack the support for hiding items en ordering them. Love to find a solution.

I do not have any issues restructuring my start menu.
The only icons I keep on the main page are Phone and Reset, everything else is in a sub-folder and does not add icons to the main page.

Bruce Inman said:
I do not have any issues restructuring my start menu.
The only icons I keep on the main page are Phone and Reset, everything else is in a sub-folder and does not add icons to the main page.
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True, but the TouchFlo "Programs" was much easier.

So am I the only one who's missing the drop-down menu when you tap the Start button - you know, the one that lists seven favourites and your four or five most recent programs?
Why should I navigate the Honeycomb every time I want to go to a program I use about 30 times a day?
Any fixes/hacks to bring this back? Or am I being really stupid and there's a simple option that I haven't found yet?

colin_85 said:
I would love to go back to the HTC Start Menu as it was so much better, I know it is on a Tab on Touch Flow 3D but it defeats the point in having a hardware button to launch programs!
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You can do this with Topaz Keyboard Controller: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555821
Map the Start button to run the program "\Windows\manila.exe" with arguments "--switchtopage programs.page", and it should work perfectly - does for me.