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HTC Omni... What has happened to it???

Call me impatient.... but I haven't heard any further details regarding the release of the Universal replacement.
A lot of the sites that reported the specs of the Omni were claiming that it was going to be released in early 2007... Now its almost April.
Has anyone else heard anything more concrete? Maybe this was just a false rumour?
Alternatively, I think if they release it too late and it isnt that "special" it will probably have a hard time competing with the newer VGA devices coming out by imate and the Toshiba G900.
Any comments???

I agree I want to know too !
I just hope there is a successor !
Got this feeling the Athena (HTC Advantage x7500) may be the replacement.

Well over a month later now. Something new somewhere already?

specs for OMNI are mostly rumours on the net & there is no hard evidence, but then again XDA Flame which expected 2 B release on Feb 2007...remains unknown..
p/s: it's not a Uni replacement though..Uni still remains... yeah...!

Well I was just wondering if it was still in the works. The rumours were so specific and the HTC Advanced and HTC Shift don't seem to fit the bill.
Ah well I'm still a couple of months away from contract renewal so I can wait I guess

I gave up waiting and got myself another universal as an upgrade.
My original universal had developed a fault.

The good thing is the Unis have really come down in price. I mean its still got fantastic specs, although only having UMTS as opposed to HSDPA is slightly date, but hey UMTS is still good. Loving the VGA screen on my Uni

I never quite understood the price of these machines. T-Mobile was selling them for 450 euro while the others were asking close to 1000 euro for their version.
I looked at the Ameo the other day and it does look great. The big screen is amazing. But then the whole thing is big and I just want the keyboard really attached.
I want a new and slightly improved Universal (more memory, faster, GPS, screen on outside)

patrickl said:
I want a new and slightly improved Universal (more memory, faster, GPS, screen on outside)
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I feel the same way. If I am to replace my Universal with something as big as this, the keyboard should be built-in in CLAMSHELL design.

Yeah those are all very reasonable upgrades that would make the Uni better. Add HSDPA/HSUPA and a slightly thinner profile and it would be a great upgrade.

Does anyone know any sales figures for HTC devices per model?
With the popularity of the Hermes, is it even worth their while to concentrate on this type of device when the slide out Hermes style is so much more popular?
The more advanced the device is, obviously the more R&D it requires hence costing more to make. Maybe they didnt make enough profit from the Universal.
Maybe the Omni was just vapourware talk to "test the waters"???
The biggest thing holding back the Universal from higher sales I would have to say is its least liked "feature"... the huge size of it. This would again cost more in R&D to try and make it a smaller size.
Not talking against or dissing the Universal as I would have one of these over a Hermes anyday, but may just be food for thought.
Any thoughts, objections or agreements?
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Well seeing how they are coming out with the Athena and the Shift they must see the market for bigger devices with phone capabilities.
The phones in thich niche cost a fortune and there is almost no competition. So they probably have quite a nice margin on them.

Yeah I think it was just the cost that put people off the Universal. It was way too expensive at launch, even if it was the top dog with all the features.

Should i buy a Blackstone?

Hello to all
I want to buy a new pda, cause my Diamond is getting slow, but i don't know witch one to buy.
I like Blackstone but i don't know if it's fast with the new rom's and so, or after buying i will regret it.
I know there are new models and so but were i live they are too expensive, so i have to stik with the older ones
Please give me your feedback.

With the coming of windows mobile 7 and nvidia tegra chipset i predict huge technological leaps in the terms of ppcs by late 2010 so if you can wait a few months i believe you'll be rewarded...
As for blackstone, i wouldn't recommend it personally although i have one and currently love it. I'd save money to get something better by mid-late 2010. Time flies

The original ROM is quite fast, but not very advanced. If you install a custom rom a lot of new functions come availible and the speed stays the same. You can also go for nice eyecandy, but then you will end up with a littlebit less speed.
For you to decide....

the Diamond is alomst as fast or as slow as the blackstone.
so i do not recommend you to buy a HD.
I also had a Diamond and changed to Hd.
It has a bigger screen, that is all.
But this is only my opinion.
Good luck.

zenga said:
Hello to all
I want to buy a new pda, cause my Diamond is getting slow, but i don't know witch one to buy.
I like Blackstone but i don't know if it's fast with the new rom's and so, or after buying i will regret it.
I know there are new models and so but were i live they are too expensive, so i have to stik with the older ones
Please give me your feedback.
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Buy HD2, em 12x sem juros.

+1 for the Touch HD2
If you're going for a Windows Mobile phone, that's the one to get.
The HD has the same CPU and RAM as many other HTC phones, the difference is the 3.8" screen (bigger than any other phone on the market except the HD2).
I use WM 6.1 (topix 3.1.2), I found WM 6.5 and Manilla 2.5 too heavy for this hardware. I do not benefit from a colourful and animation-intensive device if it's slow (like using XP vs Vista on a computer with 1 GB of RAM).

z4kn4f31n said:
With the coming of windows mobile 7 and nvidia tegra chipset i predict huge technological leaps in the terms of ppcs by late 2010 so if you can wait a few months i believe you'll be rewarded...
As for blackstone, i wouldn't recommend it personally although i have one and currently love it. I'd save money to get something better by mid-late 2010. Time flies
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I think you are spot on there. I agree with what you say and even though I currently own a Touch HD, I would also love an Touch HD2, especially for the release of Windows 7 but the price is a big factor. I think it's wise to wait until later this year for the release of other PPC devices that will be competitors to the Touch HD2 and see what they are capable of offering. In my opinion, buying a Touch HD now at this point in time would be a step backwards.
Regards.

In my job I make full use of the 'pda' capability of my trusty Touch HD, and I have been a pda user since the very early 1990s. In terms of upgrading, you just need to ask yourself what you will be using it for! Had to hard reset my Touch HD recently and was very choosey about what software I put back on afterwards. I was really surprised how much faster it was. Easy to be seduced by the impressive HD2 but clearly 2010/11 is going to see some REAL reasons for upgrading from anything that does just about all you want now. Be patient and you are bound to feel your hard earned cash will have been well spent.

hmm, HD isnt much over the Diamond, its essentially the same device with a large display, its a wonderful phone and if you had asked me 6 months ago id say go for it but there is no point just now, too much around the corner later this year, at the very least if you cant afford a new PDA you will find the blackstone price drop and thus save you some cash.

dont get a HD especially on contract as the price between the HD and the HD is not significantly large to warranty bypassing the HD2.
Waiting, thats another discussion altogether, nobody really knows what is coming out and when but if u look at how the market works you will see only slighter better phones trickle out, you wont see major steps i believe. Even if a tegra phone coming out they will find some way to handicap it, perhaps reduced codec support or lack of TV out or something like that.
You really only have three choices I can see, 2 if you discount the nexus if you have concerns about android, Iphone or HD2, iphone if you are not a big tweak fan but you like everything to work well and fast, HD2 if you like speed but love to tweak, then again if you didnt you probably wouldnt be on XDA

The HD2 is ridiculously priced atm though unfortunately. Here's hoping to it dropping down fast into non-business user land.

stuntdouble said:
The HD2 is ridiculously priced atm though unfortunately. Here's hoping to it dropping down fast into non-business user land.
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If I have been given a chance to get a new phone, perhaps it would be the HD2 or the Nexus One (Android) the prices of these phones are just the same as my HD when I bought it last Nov 2008...but the hardware specs have been improved

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The HD2 is ridiculously priced atm though unfortunately. Here's hoping to it dropping down fast into non-business user land.
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Prices are relative...
kieboy said:
If I have been given a chance to get a new phone, perhaps it would be the HD2 or the Nexus One (Android) the prices of these phones are just the same as my HD when I bought it last Nov 2008...but the hardware specs have been improved
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Agreed, prices are the same as when the HD first came out if not cheaper in some places due to market competition being more fierce now then ever before.
If WM7 doesn't excite you then go Nexus.

Any Phones Coming out this Year that will be better than the Nexus One?

I'm contemplating on purchasing the Nexus One. I want to make sure I make the right decision. I don't want to fork out $600 then to find out later that a new better device will be released.
So, anyone know of upcoming phones this year on par or even better than the Nexus One?
Much appreciated.
~BoomBoomPOW

I have heard there is going to be a enterprise version with full physical Keyboard.....they are stills rummors, but you can wait a little more and see if its true.
Also, there is the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10....8.1MP Camera, 16x Zoom, 1ghz snapdragon processor, 4" AMOLED screen...and its going to be out in the near future (1 Quarter of 2010). Its a great device.

It all depends on what your definition of "better" is. Way too subjective for a good answer from anyone here.
The nexus one doesn't have a physical keyboard. That's a deal-breaker for me, so in my opinion, at least, it's not better than my G1 or CLIQ.
Even in our crappy US market, though, there will be more powerful phones every year. Some will have features you like. Others not. If you're with T-Mobile, keep an eye out on tmonews.com. They usually have new phones and rumors of new phones long before some other sites do.

There is a leaked roadmap from HTC. I like the Bravo model over N1 because of the "Touch-Scrollball" - so there is less a chance to wreck it if you lay the phone frontside.
But, of course there always will be something better...

The HTC Bravo is pretty much the Nexus one with an upgraded camera (it does 720p recording) so technically is a better model.

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The HTC Bravo is pretty much the Nexus one with an upgraded camera (it does 720p recording) so technically is a better model.
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yea I saw that...my issue with the Bravo is the lack of a trackball or optical pad, directional pad...its not always easy to select specific links and I feel those make it a lot easier to manage.

AbsoluteDesignz said:
yea I saw that...my issue with the Bravo is the lack of a trackball or optical pad, directional pad...its not always easy to select specific links and I feel those make it a lot easier to manage.
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It has an optical pad or something to that effect (it doesn't look like a "pad" but that's what it's being put down as in the specs)
http://mobilenews.omio.com/wp-content/0511.jpg

Sony Ericsson Xperia X10
Wow, this phone might be better than the Nexus One, IMO. It seems like it's coming out at the end of March to T-Mobile as well.
Sony Ericsson Xperia X10
The highly anticipated handset come’s power packed with an 8MP camera, 1GHz Snapdragon processor, a massive 4 inch capacitive touchscreen and the new Timescape and Mediascape user interface on top of the Android OS.
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BoomBoomPOW said:
Wow, this phone might be better than the Nexus One, IMO. It seems like it's coming out at the end of March to T-Mobile as well.
Sony Ericsson Xperia X10
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All those rumors have since been proven wrong...
Coming out in APRIL on VODAFONE:
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobile-phone/sony-ericsson-x10?serverName=managed3
(Don't see why it would come out in march on one network then april on another it makes no sense, no network would sign a 1 month exclusitiviy deal).

BoomBoomPOW said:
I'm contemplating on purchasing the Nexus One. I want to make sure I make the right decision. I don't want to fork out $600 then to find out later that a new better device will be released.
So, anyone know of upcoming phones this year on par or even better than the Nexus One?
Much appreciated.
~BoomBoomPOW
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How about next year, around March/June...?

That makes sense, let's see what unfolds in the coming months. Can't wait, I'll hold off buying the Nexus One for now.
The Engadget review of the X10 is great content.
Also, the HTC HD2 coming to T-Mobile is a mighty contender as well. But I'm not too keen on the Windows Mobile 7 OS. Wished it was Android.

BoomBoomPOW said:
That makes sense, let's see what unfolds in the coming months. Can't wait, I'll hold off buying the Nexus One for now.
The Engadget review of the X10 is great content.
Also, the HTC HD2 coming to T-Mobile is a mighty contender as well. But I'm not too keen on the Windows Mobile 7 OS. Wished it was Android.
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I have no intentions of getting the Nexus One, whatsoever! Trust me, by the time the year ends, phones are gonna be murders. Like we went form crap phones, to the iPhone, and then the rocket flared upward after that.

you're afraid of buying a nexus one - but why ? you pay $600 for one, and a new phone comes out next month, so you sell the N1 for $550 and buy that other one.... or wait longer and still sell the N1 for $550...
hardware has ALWAYS been this way. there will always be a better/faster/cooler product released. hard to beat the G1's keyboard and stuff, but it will be beaten.
just buy the N1, and enjoy it. you're not promised tomorrow

Wait Until either the rumored nexus one with keyboard comes out (or at least see if it is real) or wait until the HTC Bravo comes out (it is a GSM device so it doesn't matter if it goes to the carrier your not on, you can just unlock it)
The Bravo is identical to the Nexus One in specs. Yes it has 512 mb of ram not the rumored 320 mb of ram. But Bravo has HTC Sense on it and you know those people with the nexus one will try to get a fully working Bravo ROM that is working at full speed.
I'm sure when the Bravo comes out and it gets rooted someone will make a Nexus One 2.1 ROM so you can get the best of both worlds

Guys someone said the X10 does 720p? Well this is copy pasted from google.com/phone
"Video captured at 720x480 pixels at 20 frames per second or higher, depending on lighting conditions"
That is 720p isn't it?
It will be a long time before android phones start releasing anything better than a 1ghz snapdragon, not to mention that most of the other 1ghz android phones are only packing 256 ram.
To who ever said the Bravo will have 512, im pretty sure that is unconfirmed but it is possible.
Xperia10 looks like trash, its still stuck on 1.6 which also means they had to go with a lcd 65k colour screen.
If you want the HD2 in android flavor you could wait for the Supersonic
Best choice i think though is Bavo or Nexus One

@ Above:
It's the Bravo that does 720p recording and 720p is 1280x720
The Bravo has been confirmed to have 512mb ram. When you look at it it's the exact same as the Nexus in terms of size and shape etc (apart from trackpad and physical buttons) so it makes sense it has similar internals.
The X10 isn't trash. It's running 1.6 but will get a (Confirmed) update to 2.0/1 soon after launch. Timescape looks awesome and just as good as Sense UI (needs 5 homescreens though). It also has a 4.0 inch screen.
To me it's down to the Bravo or the X10. Purely because I need an instore purchase. I will almost certainly get the Bravo unless one of them ends up on o2 and I will then get the o2 handset.

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The X10 isn't trash. It's running 1.6 but will get a (Confirmed) update to 2.0/1 soon after launch. Timescape looks awesome and just as good as Sense UI (needs 5 homescreens though). It also has a 4.0 inch screen.
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There has been rumours that it will be released with 2.0, which would make more sense and could explain the repeated delays with the release date. But yes, as you said, even if it is released with 1.6 SE have confirmed a 2.0 upgrade for it.
As my contract ends in june, i just hope the X10 is available on t-mobile by then, my G1 is starting to get a bit battered
Also, Sony Ericsson phones have always had the best cameras and have always been great for music. I had a SE k750i a while back, which was an absolutely amazing phone.

I'm excited that the N2 could feature a keyboard, but then it might be by motorola which makes me go iffy, maybe I"m just pro HTC,

Im already saving for a SE X10....
HTC HD2 looks really nice, but no Android...deal breaker for me.

[CLOSED/G2/POLL] Thoughts after HTC announcement

So what do people think now? I am personally swayed to buy the Desire Z, but I would like to see what other people think.
Having watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly4C0TXmnlQ, I am pretty impressed by htcsense.com (for the off days that I forget my phone!). The maps app isn't really that smooth...the demo showed it being quite laggy on the Desire HD.
Build quality is great, performance seems smooth, keyboard looks fantastic (no numbers row though =[ ) and the screen looks crisp.
edit: maybe I should have also posted on the Desire HD forum! =P

Bye windows hello android
well im selling my TP2 no more windows for me and putting the rest with my pocket as well for the desire Z. i had doubts but after listening to that guy brag how the phone is... im sold. lol.

i also have a TP2,but i am going to keep it,however i want this phone, i looks sexy and thin, and it has htc sense

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well im selling my TP2 no more windows for me and putting the rest with my pocket as well for the desire Z. i had doubts but after listening to that guy brag how the phone is... im sold. lol.
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i've been fed up with windows mobile for about a year now with my HTC Blackstone...it's simply too old and dated an OS. And WinPho & is simply too locked down and not as flexible as I'd like it to be (I'm so sick of those tiles!).
Android looks like the way to me...and *if* I do want to load up my phone with something bloated and pretty, then I will use the HTC Sense bundled in with that phone...which is tons better than the HTC Sense on Windows Mobile.

The Desire Z looked great to me. Perfect size, build quality is on point, gorgeous keyboard, and very fast. I hope the G2 is the same color as the Desire Z, the G2 looks a bit lighter from the renders on T-Mobile's site.
The Desire HD was a bit of a let down to me. First off, it's not HD. A 4.3 inch screen needs a better resolution than 800x480. The colors on the screen look incredibly washed out compared to the Desire Z. Also is it true that the HD only has a 1250mAh battery?!
Can't wait to get the G2. Goodbye Vibrant.

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i've been fed up with windows mobile for about a year now with my HTC Blackstone...it's simply too old and dated an OS. And WinPho & is simply too locked down and not as flexible as I'd like it to be (I'm so sick of those tiles!).
Android looks like the way to me...and *if* I do want to load up my phone with something bloated and pretty, then I will use the HTC Sense bundled in with that phone...which is tons better than the HTC Sense on Windows Mobile.
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i couldnt agree more. im done with the freezeing and sluggish UI. wp7 is prolly good but its not going to be on my tp2 so i have no reason to keep it. do u know for blackstone if it will be surpported?

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Having watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly4C0TXmnlQ, I am pretty impressed by htcsense.com (for the off days that I forget my phone!)
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Looks like HTC have pulled that video off their Youtube account. I wonder why

I am eager to see how the MSM7230 800MHz performs compared to the 1GHz Snapdragon that sits in my Nexus currently. But I already know I will be pre-ordering the Desire Z ASAP. I have been waiting for a high-end qwerty Android phone from HTC for so long. Cant believe its finally here, and its *almost* everything I wanted..
I am a bit annoyed at HTC though, because they have a tendency to do this. The Desire HD has a great unibody construction which gives the phone that extreme high-end feel to it, while the Desire Z is left with a combination of aluminium and plastic finish. Why, I don't know. Also wish they would have put some aluminium love on the keyboard as well, but at least the keyboard looks good otherwise.
Those are probably my only concerns regarding the Desire Z (that, and the lame name). I hope the Z mechanism lasts as well though and wont get sluggish over time.
Anyway, its as close to perfect for me as any other phone has ever been so Im picking it up anyways. Just wish HTC would stop holding back when launching new phones. If the MSM7230 800MHz performs well then Im relieved, but if not then I will be mad at HTC for not going for the 1GHz version instead. The MSM7230 has the Adeno 205 GPU, but since Android doesn't support GPU acceleration I guess we wont get much joy from it.
Now Im just waiting for pre-orders here to show up!

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The MSM7230 has the Adeno 205 GPU, but since Android doesn't support GPU acceleration I guess we wont get much joy from it.
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is GPU acceleration something that modders can address? also, I'm curious what the GPU does when its not being utilized for acceleration. isn't the very definition of a GPU that its a graphics accelerator? is it that Android uses it for some things like games and video, but not others, like scrolling and webpage rendering?
also, rumor has it that Android 3.0 will implement graphics acceleration, so for a good portion of the time you have your G2 you should enjoy said acceleration (for the record, yes I believe the G2 will be definitely be upgradeable to Gingerbread)

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I am eager to see how the MSM7230 800MHz performs compared to the 1GHz Snapdragon that sits in my Nexus currently. But I already know I will be pre-ordering the Desire Z ASAP. I have been waiting for a high-end qwerty Android phone from HTC for so long. Cant believe its finally here, and its *almost* everything I wanted..
I am a bit annoyed at HTC though, because they have a tendency to do this. The Desire HD has a great unibody construction which gives the phone that extreme high-end feel to it, while the Desire Z is left with a combination of aluminium and plastic finish. Why, I don't know. Also wish they would have put some aluminium love on the keyboard as well, but at least the keyboard looks good otherwise.
Those are probably my only concerns regarding the Desire Z (that, and the lame name). I hope the Z mechanism lasts as well though and wont get sluggish over time.
Anyway, its as close to perfect for me as any other phone has ever been so Im picking it up anyways. Just wish HTC would stop holding back when launching new phones. If the MSM7230 800MHz performs well then Im relieved, but if not then I will be mad at HTC for not going for the 1GHz version instead. The MSM7230 has the Adeno 205 GPU, but since Android doesn't support GPU acceleration I guess we wont get much joy from it.
Now Im just waiting for pre-orders here to show up!
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Haha same here. This is the qwerty device I've been waiting for!
After I watched the videos I actually got the impression the Desire Z had better build quality than the Desire HD did. I didn't see any brushed aluminum on the HD but it's all over the Z. Reporters even said that most of the Desire Z is made of metal (aluminum) and looks amazing. The HD looked just like the Evo 4G to me, which feels sturdy in hand, but doesn't have that fancy brushed aluminum finish to it.

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Haha same here. This is the qwerty device I've been waiting for!
After I watched the videos I actually got the impression the Desire Z had better build quality than the Desire HD did. I didn't see any brushed aluminum on the HD but it's all over the Z. Reporters even said that most of the Desire Z is made of metal (aluminum) and looks amazing. The HD looked just like the Evo 4G to me, which feels sturdy in hand, but doesn't have that fancy brushed aluminum finish to it.
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Well, regardless of what you think you see, the HD is unibody (meaning its body is made out of one piece of aluminium) and the front is largely made out of glass...
Of course Im basing all this on what Ive heard and seen rather than my personal experience as I havent touched any of these yet. The Desire Z is made out of aluminium and plastic, while the z-hinge is supposedly made out of some sort of metal.. according to a HTC spokesperson, some kind of strong alloy. So at least it seems they have done a good job with that mechanism which is great news, as the Touch Pro and Touch Pro 2 tends to get jerky after a while!

I am basically sold on the G2 at this point. I have been a loyal Verizon customer for over 6 years. A year ago I never would have thought of leaving...but in the last 6 months, I have been running all the Donut/Eclair/Froyo builds on my aging HTC Vogue (KUDOS to DZO, Myn, Incubus26jc and the whole Android Vogue group, their work is amazing) and even an imperfect Donut is better than WinMo. Running their modded ROMS has sold me on stock Android.
Not at all interested in WinPho 7...it looks lame and locked up. I was going to stick with Verizon, but kluging Bing on the Fascinate was the last straw. Any carrier that would do that does not care about Android at all...or their customers. Sense is the only UI I'd consider using...but even Sense is losing steam. Gingerbread is going to blow it away, I think.
At any rate...Tmo seems the only carrier interested in delivering the pure Android experience. They have better plans...and this new phone is going to be amazing, with lots of dev support.
I'm sold...goodbye Verizon.

If you think about it the new sense w/landscape is already developed for Desire Z so it should be a quick port and we would have the new sense and stock. I like to switch back and forth and the keyboard and HSPA+ are very tempting.

My thoughts after the announcement is I want an HTC Desire HD.

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I am basically sold on the G2 at this point. I have been a loyal Verizon customer for over 6 years. A year ago I never would have thought of leaving...but in the last 6 months, I have been running all the Donut/Eclair/Froyo builds on my aging HTC Vogue (KUDOS to DZO, Myn, Incubus26jc and the whole Android Vogue group, their work is amazing) and even an imperfect Donut is better than WinMo. Running their modded ROMS has sold me on stock Android.
Not at all interested in WinPho 7...it looks lame and locked up. I was going to stick with Verizon, but kluging Bing on the Fascinate was the last straw. Any carrier that would do that does not care about Android at all...or their customers. Sense is the only UI I'd consider using...but even Sense is losing steam. Gingerbread is going to blow it away, I think.
At any rate...Tmo seems the only carrier interested in delivering the pure Android experience. They have better plans...and this new phone is going to be amazing, with lots of dev support.
I'm sold...goodbye Verizon.
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Good choice. The G2 is definitely going to bring attention to T-Mobile. I think people are getting tired of all these Touchwiz/Motorblur phones and want Stock android. Like you said it seems that only T-Mobile cares about this. Verizon only cares about money and exploits Android to fill their pockets.

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Good choice. The G2 is definitely going to bring attention to T-Mobile. I think people are getting tired of all these Touchwiz/Motorblur phones and want Stock android. Like you said it seems that only T-Mobile cares about this. Verizon only cares about money and exploits Android to fill their pockets.
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lol well, make no mistake, t-mobile cares just as much about making money as verizon does. they're just trying to carve out a niche in the market for "with google." that's their selling point for the G2. verizon's selling point is their network, which I think we can all agree is the best (in terms of coverage). they don't need to exploit a niche market because they're super mainstream, so they have the luxury of adding even more to their bottom line by making deals with companies like microsoft, i.e. the Bing deal

seems that the Desire Z and HD haven't won over everybody...but it is still quite popular (this is the Desire Z forum afterall)...I was thinking of buying it on the play.com website...but does anyone know if they do free shipping to Australia?

skulk3r said:
seems that the Desire Z and HD haven't won over everybody...but it is still quite popular (this is the Desire Z forum afterall)...I was thinking of buying it on the play.com website...but does anyone know if they do free shipping to Australia?
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Sucks for them. Those people won't be happy until the first dual-core 1.5Ghz phone with 400ppi and built in toaster gets announced. Even though they could not use that kind of speed...
Why don't you go on their website and see?

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lol .............. verizon's selling point is their network, which I think we can all agree is the best (in terms of coverage). they don't need to exploit a niche market because they're super mainstream, so they have the luxury of adding even more to their bottom line by making deals with companies like microsoft, i.e. the Bing deal
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don't be to sure of verizon's network being that great - a) the more users on a network, the slower the network and that is the down side to verizon's network - they sell that network too well. But b) as far as coverage, don't underestimate Tmo's network or partnership carriers. Every year i travel with a couple of partner company reps to visit suppliers & clients in upstate Vermont (2 miles south of the canadian border), northwest texas, new mexico & oklahoma. One is with verizon & the other on AT&T (yeah i know AT&T is weak), but whenever we're somewhere rural, the verizon phone drops all bars while my tmo still has 1-2 - leaving Derby, VT and heading south, we're talking a 90 - 100 mile stretch that's pretty desolate going into low foothills - but the last time, my verizon buddy had to use my phone to finish a 20 minute call.
we've gone thru this 3 years running, whether we're in VT, New Mex, Tx or Oklahoma and every year he comments he needs to look at Tmo for his company. While Tmo may not own the entire network, they've been smart in partnering with a lot of the small carriers.
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Will this be good phone after X8 ???

I'm looking for a new phone with good specs and good price, will be Xiaomi Phone good choice ??? It will have 1.5 GHz dual-core CPU, 1 GB RAM, and good price- 310 USD (215 EUR)
Btw it runs MIUI and it will have unlocked bootloader
http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_phone_is_15ghz_dualcore_droid_from_china_to_cost_310-news-3007.php
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvpSgWs0KMA

fifo171 said:
I'm looking for a new phone with good specs and good price, will be Xiaomi Phone good choice ??? It will have 1.5 GHz dual-core CPU, 1 GB RAM, and good price- 310 USD (215 EUR)
Btw it runs MIUI and it will have unlocked bootloader
http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_phone_is_15ghz_dualcore_droid_from_china_to_cost_310-news-3007.php
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvpSgWs0KMA
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Hey it's Steve Jobs presenting a new iphone.. and look, he's demonstrating how the phone doesn't lose signal no matter how you hold it!
Specs are nice but i don't know.. will it have good support?
It freezes alot in the video xD

Chinesse phone....not good materials.....worst support

it Depends on the materials basically ..
And chinese materials .. Suck the most ..
specs are Very good actually
But i'd go for a Proper benchmark ..
Like HTC ..
HTC is actually Very damn good ..

Just because it's a chinese product it doesn't mean it's bad.
They can have good and bad stuff like any other country. Take apple for ex, lots of apple products are made in china with chinese materials. They were just designed in the usa, which of course also chose the materials they want in the product.
Most crappy chinese products are made by chinese companies with no experience, they just imitate something that already exists and use cheap materials so the prices can be low.
But you also have good chinese companies who prefer to waste a bit more money on a r&d department and quality control and produce way better things..
We just have to see what kind of company they are
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This is a phone from China. I don't know how is its quality. Maybe like M9.
It's really cheap(compare to others).
In China it will be 1999 yuan.But I can't afford it. One of my classmate want buy it.

Sir_gpm said:
Chinesse phone....not good materials.....worst support
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I don't know the how is the materials,but the support of xiaomi will good. Because it run MIUI .

Sir_gpm said:
Chinesse phone....not good materials.....worst support
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why ??? look at ZTE Blade. it doesn't have good materials, but it has froyo officialy and it's officialy supported by CM, i hope that Xiaomi will be officialy CM supported too

Engadget has a hands-on preview: http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/xiaomi-phone-hands-on/
The internals are made by foxconn (same company that makes the internals for apple devices), it's not necessarily the best company at the business but it's also not a cheap factory, the screen is manufactured by sharp and seems to be a tad better in sun light than the average lcd screen. They also said that the phone feels surprisingly solid. Software still needs some tweaking..
Let us wait

Looks like a nice phone but I wish there where released in Europe.

Phatzy said:
Looks like a nice phone but I wish there where released in Europe.
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me too, if it won't be released in europe, i think i won't buy it (because of service repairs )

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