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Is there going to be custom ROMS for Galaxy S?

Galaxy S is a wonderful phone with many-many hardware advantages but with one major disadvantage, and it's called Samsung Software Support.
I really like this phone but I believe that Froyo will be the last update that Samsung is going to give, so i believe that the only hope of this phone is custom Roms
Nexus One have great cookers like to support it. Does anyone have the intention to do the same thing for Galaxy S?

If you are worried about that, then don't buy the Galaxy S now. Wait a month or two and see how it looks then?
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Thats what I'm going to do, I don't plan to buy it now, but I have my eye on it and I didnt find any info on the subject, so I made this thread.

hey m8, i know how "Bad" samsung support is and I don't wanna disagree with your opinion but seriously, what major improvements to you want? ginger bread? has it even been stated what ginger bread will improve? for now 2.1 and 2.2 will be good.... and I don't even keep the same phone for longer than 1-2 years, technology improves to fast, phones get slimmer and nicer.
you get my point this is the best out there, take it enjoy it hack it but dont plan on keeping it for a decade.

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, google said that in the next 6 months is going to amaze us. I believe that mean gingerbread.
I also believe that google has many innovations to show us with android so an upgradeable device is necessary.

Desvbo said:
hey m8, i know how "Bad" samsung support is and I don't wanna disagree with your opinion but seriously, what major improvements to you want? ginger bread? has it even been stated what ginger bread will improve? for now 2.1 and 2.2 will be good.... and I don't even keep the same phone for longer than 1-2 years, technology improves to fast, phones get slimmer and nicer.
you get my point this is the best out there, take it enjoy it hack it but dont plan on keeping it for a decade.
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True, true, but i mean at the very least some common and very easy bug fixes and stuff. I own the Omnia II and the only bug fixes come from cookers and very very few ppl who has privileged access to samsung new roms (and they "won't" tell where they get it from, so prolly insider roms imo).
By the way, what's that "amazing" thing google has announced??? hardware or software??

i think the "bad support" by samsung is exaggerated by people...
i would not call it bad support, if samsung releases updates to add the following long after the release of the phone (they could have said "we already got your money ... bad luck for you"):
they fixed photocontacts, then after it was fixed they changed photocontacts because people did not like the way it worked (but it worked nontheless)...
what company would change something after they just fixed it so it is not broken anymore ? that is really bad support, to hear the wishes and likes of how things should work (even if they are currently not broken).
then they gave us kinetic scrolling .. something that was never even mentioned as feature for the phone in the first place ...
i think its just greedy people who spend some money on a phone and now expect the manufacturer to keep it updated forever so it is always the best with all features that even where not invented when the phone initially was released ... go to work, earn some dollars and buy a new phone instead of expecting a company (whos target is to make money) to spend money just so you have the finest things for free without giving a dime for it and after that the spoilt users will still moarn that they did not get unlimited updates for free

If you check out their open source website, you will find Galaxy S' Kernel and driver. I'm not custom ROM developer, and dose not know about that well.
However, other XDA member said that this is enough to port other ROMs such as Sense UI.
According to Samsung Mobile twitter, Froyo will come 100%. Ginger-Bread is not clear.
I will buy Galaxy S. More people means More support from home cooker.

Gingerbread is going to come out next year. Google said they are going to only release an Android update once a year now. No one even knows what Gingerbread is going to offer next year so why worry about an update? Enjoy it now and enjoy it more when it gets Froyo.

DKYang said:
Gingerbread is going to come out next year. Google said they are going to only release an Android update once a year now. No one even knows what Gingerbread is going to offer next year so why worry about an update? Enjoy it now and enjoy it more when it gets Froyo.
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Agreed lol!
the 2.1 on the sammy seems VERY usable, yes forever, not just for a year, because it has nearly everything we would need.
the more you get, the more you want.
I question whether people actually sit down and think. Some say "no 2.2 froyo = a failure".. while before it was "no 2.1 = a failure".. and before that no "1.6 = a failure". it's a foolish never ending cycle of wanting more more more even though each version is fully usable.
seriously what kind of comment is that, the phone has everything almost, even if it doesn't according to the person, it has enough for us to use it as a phone and camera and internet and mp3/video.
I hope people will realize what is on the sammy is enough (unless you want to install themes only that's cool).

Obviously not indicative of whether or not the GS will get Gingerbread, but as for bug fixes Samsung are apparently releasing GS firmware updates in Singapore:
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=2781948&page=95
From my own limited experience, there were several firmware updates for the Omnia I as well, although never an official upgrade from WinMo 6.1 to to 6.5 even though the phone could run it just fine (probably because they wanted to sell Omnia II instead).

Well, that's what i mean. I also had omnia, it's a very good phone that never got win6.5 officially even though it could.
That's what i'm afraid of with galaxy.
I expect many innovations with every new version of android so it would like to be able to have it in Galaxy s if im going to be an owner.
Lets hope that a great cooker is heading this way

Well, concerning Samsung's support, I'm pretty sure it's not going to be that bad. Samsung released Android 2.1 for the Galaxy Spica way before HTC has released Android 2.1 for the Hero. It's got a bed rep because of the way they handle the Behold I and II in the US and some Windows Mobile phones, and that's because they apparently don't want to support phones that haven't sold well (and probably because they have to pay for the Qualcomm drivers). Because the Galaxy S is probably going to be rather popular with its worldwide release and runs on Samsung's own hardware, I do think Samsung will supply us with an update, at least to Android 2.2.
As for ROM development: Samsung has provided us with the complete source of Android running on the Galaxy S, so it should be perfectly possible to develop ROMs once the device is rooted (which could even be accomplished with the HTC Incredible) and a bootloader can be used for it. At least, that's how far I've understood it.

DCKing said:
Well, concerning Samsung's support, ..... It's got a bed rep because of the way they handle the Behold I and II in the US and some Windows Mobile phones. .....
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Their Symbian phones didn't get the same love as well. I am afraid this is not restricted to one part of the world or one phone or two. It's just Samsung providing almost perfect hardware and crappy software.
The orphan approach is what Samsung keep doing. While, the community suppose to be the one adopting Samsung projects. This kinda lame and I really hate it.
Anyway, back to the topic (somehow).
Does anyone of you heard any news about Samsung Galaxy S Pro?
I am trying to hold for 1 month or two before getting my Android and I am not the type who changes his phone according to a season or his pair of shoes.
Hopefully, the keyboard version comes sooner than latter.

The next thing to wow us is probably gonna be phones with screens that can produce 3D effects

Probably not a good idea to compare how Samsung treats phones with an OS, they have/had to pay for(WM and Sybian) with one that's free(Android). Upgrading those payed for OS' might be much more expensive than the free OS. The higher the cost the less likely anyone would wanna upgrade, no?
Personally I think this is kinda silly. Is there any mobile manufacturer that has a really good trackrecord(aside from possibly Apple)? Seems people moan about the support, or lack of, from all of them...
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Silverdragondk said:
Probably not a good idea to compare how Samsung treats phones with an OS, they have/had to pay for(WM and Sybian) with one that's free(Android). Upgrading those payed for OS' might be much more expensive than the free OS. The higher the cost the less likely anyone would wanna upgrade, no?
Personally I think this is kinda silly. Is there any mobile manufacturer that has a really good trackrecord(aside from possibly Apple)? Seems people moan about the support, or lack of, from all of them...
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I think HP used to produce quick update for windows mobile devices. However, they are charging for the update. That for windows 2003se to WM5.
I have bad experience with HTC. They take forever to update.
Another phone I have is O2 XDA mini. I never have any update since the device release.

Silverdragondk said:
Probably not a good idea to compare how Samsung treats phones with an OS, they have/had to pay for(WM and Sybian) with one that's free(Android). Upgrading those payed for OS' might be much more expensive than the free OS. The higher the cost the less likely anyone would wanna upgrade, no?
[3]Personally I think this is kinda silly. Is there any mobile manufacturer that has a really good trackrecord(aside from possibly Apple)? Seems people moan about the support, or lack of, from all of them...
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1- It called Symbian
2- It is open source = Free = Your argument isn't valid for it
3- Agree

S.p.x. said:
1- It called Symbian
2- It is open source = Free = Your argument isn't valid for it
3- Agree
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regardless of the fact i see no reason for them not to upgrade to gingerbread i doubt very serious there would be much hardship, also knowing me if/when this come to t-mobile and i get it i know it will be rooted so im not worrying about updates on a company end.

S.p.x. said:
1- It called Symbian
2- It is open source = Free = Your argument isn't valid for it
3- Agree
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1 - Apologies. I guess I didn't really press the "m" when I typed Symbian.
2 - It wasn't always, which is why I wrote "have/had" and included it. I don't even know, if Symbian was free when Samsung used it in the Omnia HD...
3 - Good!
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Captivate-> Root if Galaxy S does

I read in another forum that they thought rooting of the AT&T Captivate is unlikely, due to its difference from Galaxy S, and that AT&T would prevent that.
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unlikely....but until someone versed in the skill of rooting gets his hands on the Captivate, it's all speculation i.e. pointless.

I don't think it will make much difference. Sure, ATT tends to lock their devices down... But, that is normally on a general user basis. Think about the iCrap - they were still able to be jailbroken, etc.
If a method of "Root" is found for any of the Galaxy S devices I would think that same method would work on all of them.
However, this is just my opinion and like the previous post stated - until we get one in hand we can't be 100% sure.
As far as the Captivate being a lot different from the other Galaxy S devices... Samsung is pushing to have a "Galaxy S" device on all carriers and in 110 countries. There will most likely be some small differences among the devices. However, it wouldn't seem likely that they would be different enough that one ROM couldn't be used for several different models. Take a look at what CyanogenMod did with their ROM's - slight differences allow for them to be used on two HTC devices and the Motorola Droid. Most Desire/N1 ROMS are almost interchangeable.
If the Galaxy S is anywhere NEAR as successful as Samsung is hoping there will be a LOT of people wanting root and custom ROMS.

Galaxy S Rooted
www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-rooted-it-aint-easy
Galaxy S rooted. Good new for Captivate...Hopefully.

The HTC Aria has already been rooted, too. So I don't expect it would take long for the Captivate. Wonder if the addition of the gyroscope would make things more difficult

Only other thing I'd like to see then after the root is a rom to load that is the original, in case of warranty needs.

I am torn between an AT&T Nexus One and a Captivate.
I want to stay with AT&T because the wife loves her iphone. The Captivate would be much cheaper via an upgrade but I dont think I want it if its not going to be able to be rooted.
I am going to wait a couple of weeks and see how the scene looks before jumping on it the first day its available.

Rooting
ewingr said:
Only other thing I'd like to see then after the root is a rom to load that is the original, in case of warranty needs.
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the way I understand it. you create a backup during the rooting process. So you can restore to original.
Thanks

tysj said:
The HTC Aria has already been rooted, too. So I don't expect it would take long for the Captivate. Wonder if the addition of the gyroscope would make things more difficult
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It doesn't have a gyroscope. It has a "six-axis accelerometer" that acts like one. I don't think this is a significant change.

dsjr2006 said:
It doesn't have a gyroscope. It has a "six-axis accelerometer" that acts like one. I don't think this is a significant change.
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Why are you trading up from N1 to Captivate? N1 is still a really good phone. i hear customization for this phone will take some time before it releases. it took nearly two month to release custom rom for Galaxy S the Euro Version. I think i might wait for the captivate until i there is a good rom to run on.
I also hear that samsung will prevent future updates. in the news froyo will be released but looking at the history of previous android samsung phones, they might not release the update and make customers buy a new equipment.
Also due to some driver encryption, only rom we can customize is the version samsung releases. I hope i am wrong about this cuz i want this phone. but i don't want to buy now and have a outdated phone six month later. Phones like N1 will have new custom rom every time goggle release an update. I also like to get a N1 but ATT version is so expensive.

Ummmm...has anyone forgotten that Samsung has been more cooperative and timely in releasing their kernel and driver source code than most (all?) of their competitors?
I present Exhibit 1 for the SGS:
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/reception_main.do?searchValue=i9000&method=reception_search

Balthazar B said:
Ummmm...has anyone forgotten that Samsung has been more cooperative and timely in releasing their kernel and driver source code than most (all?) of their competitors?
I present Exhibit 1 for the SGS:
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/reception_main.do?searchValue=i9000&method=reception_search
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yeah but this is for the i9000. US version is i897. Is this going to be compatible to US version?

sl8125 said:
Why are you trading up from N1 to Captivate? N1 is still a really good phone. i hear customization for this phone will take some time before it releases. it took nearly two month to release custom rom for Galaxy S the Euro Version. I think i might wait for the captivate until i there is a good rom to run on.
I also hear that samsung will prevent future updates. in the news froyo will be released but looking at the history of previous android samsung phones, they might not release the update and make customers buy a new equipment.
Also due to some driver encryption, only rom we can customize is the version samsung releases. I hope i am wrong about this cuz i want this phone. but i don't want to buy now and have a outdated phone six month later. Phones like N1 will have new custom rom every time goggle release an update. I also like to get a N1 but ATT version is so expensive.
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I'm not gonna go off of what people have heard or baseless speculation. The N1 is really starting to piss me off with its crappy RF and now that I have my iPhone 4 I'm not liking the N1 too much so I'm hoping this device is going to be much better. I can deal with not having 2.2 right away and I think this phone will sell amazingly well and there will be lots of support official or not so I'm gonna take my chances.
The reason Samsung probably didn't update their previous Android devices is because they were utter crap and anyone buying them should have seen that coming. Why buy a phone that already has last gen hardware and expect to have the latest software?

I personally will be up at the crack of dawn heading to my att store which had a hard time confirming that it was actually going to be released sunday.
I do believe that there will be custom roms available and that for the most part they will be compatible with the various versions of the galaxy S. These samsung phones will probly be the hottest devices on the market for a while and I expect to see a good number of quality devs doing some wonderful things for these phones. Anythings possible with android hell I'm running FROYO on a old tilt

dsjr2006 said:
I'm not gonna go off of what people have heard or baseless speculation. The N1 is really starting to piss me off with its crappy RF and now that I have my iPhone 4 I'm not liking the N1 too much so I'm hoping this device is going to be much better. I can deal with not having 2.2 right away and I think this phone will sell amazingly well and there will be lots of support official or not so I'm gonna take my chances.
The reason Samsung probably didn't update their previous Android devices is because they were utter crap and anyone buying them should have seen that coming. Why buy a phone that already has last gen hardware and expect to have the latest software?
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bs. the samsung i8910 which i have was and still is great hardware.. the camera is better than the galaxy.. it also has a flash.. the gps is better than the galaxy.. the cpu is slower 600 vs 1ghz but it is great harware.. just crappy symbian o.s.

garringm said:
I personally will be up at the crack of dawn heading to my att store which had a hard time confirming that it was actually going to be released sunday.
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hehe good thing im wfh on sunday am and i live like 2 min away from the ATT COR store...i can drive by and see if there is a line...i think the iP4 is going back...

N1 is not even close to the Galaxy series I have a desire which has 64mb ram than an N1 and it still lags like a mofo. Side by side, desire rather dated seriously.
@ lgkahn Mega-pixels don't mean quality, just take a look at the '8mp' EVO CMOS camera... they're CRAP Any CMOS lens will be crap, hands down. If you want a REAL CCD camera get a real one they're sub $100

If there's a line then you shouldn't have waited. I walked in on Wednesday to a Little Rock store to see one, they offered to sell it to me right then & there but I needed to wait for my wife to make up her mind on what phone she wanted. She verified on Thursday with one of the San Antonio stores that sure, they'd sell it early so on Friday we walked in & walked out with the Captivate, no problem. Asking never hurts.

Samsung Captivate
I have the captivate... I just rooted it however there seems to be no roms out there for it yet... Also I notice that on my wife's Samsung Vibrant using Tmobile when she goes to teh Android market there are certain apps there but when i go to the android market on my captive using at&t i can't find the Mod Install location app or the apps 2 sd ap.... this is strange. anyone have any ideas

ewingr said:
I read in another forum that they thought rooting of the AT&T Captivate is unlikely, due to its difference from Galaxy S, and that AT&T would prevent that.
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I have my phone rooted, nandroided, AT&T bloatware removed, sideloading, and ready for a custom froyo ROM. Not many other phones have advanced this far, this quickly into their life cycle. I bet Captivate will be one of the first to get a Gingerbread ROM, if not from Samsung, then from the community, it certainly meets the hardware requirements. Without a locked down bootloader and an eFuse, Captivate (and all the Galaxy S siblings released thus far) are more hackable than their competition, not less.

[CLOSED/DZ] Stock Android > All

Hardware aside, I'm willing to sell my Vibrant for this phone for the simple fact the G2 will have stock android. I'm getting very close to the point where I will not support phones that do not ship with stock android. Seeing motoblur or touchwiz makes me sick. The manufacturers might as well design their own OS because that IS NOT ANDROID.
Only T-Mobile has released stock android devices to this day (in the US). This could set T-Mobile higher than the competition if they would just release more stock phones. The first MyTouch ran on vanilla android so why can't the new one do the same?
I'm really looking forward to the G2. Looks like a great business phone. The keyboard looks great (could be better with a 5th row) and the z-hinge will be a cool addition. This thing is going to have incredible developer support just like the G1. Why do you think so many G1 owners still use that phone? The dev community kept it alive. All of the stock android phones have huge dev support. This one will be no different.
Still disappointed that it only ships with a 1300mAh battery. Even if you can overclock the phone it would be smart not to as it would drain hella fast. Hopefully they will sell 1500-1700mAh batteries that don't make the phone too much thicker.
Can't wait to see actual footage of the phone. Hopefully tomorrow at the HTC event they show it off. I've heard T-Mobile employees who have seen the phone saw its amazingly fast. It better live up to the hype, although for practical use I don't think HSPA+ will be much faster than 3G at this point.

Arcadia310 said:
Hardware aside, I'm willing to sell my Vibrant for this phone for the simple fact the G2 will have stock android. I'm getting very close to the point where I will not support phones that do not ship with stock android. Seeing motoblur or touchwiz makes me sick. The manufacturers might as well design their own OS because that IS NOT ANDROID.
Only T-Mobile has released stock android devices to this day (in the US). This could set T-Mobile higher than the competition if they would just release more stock phones. The first MyTouch ran on vanilla android so why can't the new one do the same?
I'm really looking forward to the G2. Looks like a great business phone. The keyboard looks great (could be better with a 5th row) and the z-hinge will be a cool addition. This thing is going to have incredible developer support just like the G1. Why do you think so many G1 owners still use that phone? The dev community kept it alive. All of the stock android phones have huge dev support. This one will be no different.
Still disappointed that it only ships with a 1300mAh battery. Even if you can overclock the phone it would be smart not to as it would drain hella fast. Hopefully they will sell 1500-1700mAh batteries that don't make the phone too much thicker.
Can't wait to see actual footage of the phone. Hopefully tomorrow at the HTC event they show it off. I've heard T-Mobile employees who have seen the phone saw its amazingly fast. It better live up to the hype, although for practical use I don't think HSPA+ will be much faster than 3G at this point.
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I agree. I cant wait for the G2. Ive been a G1 owner the past 2 yrs. Cant wait to upgrade. Oh by the way, the Droid 1 had stock android.

actually i can vouch for the HSPA+ speeds, on 3G my mytouch slide was getting just under 1Mbps and when they flipped on the towers around me i started pulling 4-5 Mbps so with the limit of the device set at 14.4 Mbps then i am sure we can get at least 8 possibly more than that(of course it will diminish once more people are on the network just like anything else

Arcadia310 said:
The manufacturers might as well design their own OS because that IS NOT ANDROID.
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That's actually the entire idea behind android.

JCopernicus said:
That's actually the entire idea behind android.
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If that is the Idea then there is no room to ***** about the fragmentation of the OS itself by Google. I for one like the idea of a vanilla platform. As many have stated, this allows for quicker updates of the software, where all the tightly integrated crap like motobelch either causes huge delays, or the updates never come due to development costs. Hats off to t-mobile for this phone and I'm glad I did not jump on the Vibrant even though its a great device.
I just hope I can get it on our corporate plan.

JCopernicus said:
That's actually the entire idea behind android.
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agree. people should be able to do whatever they want with android. I don't have the expertise to know about licensing and when you can legally profit off of customizing someone else's work, but I think there should be a free market so people can choose what they want. personally, I prefer stock. I'll continue to support handsets that come with stock. but I like how there are other versions. I mean... the same principle that allows android to be modded into sense and touchwiz is the same one that allows Cyanogen to legally release his mods.

stock is awesome cause froyo has built in tethering and hotspot support also allows for faster updates and better compatibility with custom roms.

G2 having vanilla android was the nail in my nexus coffin to Oklahoma thank you ebay.
The G2 is going to be friggin awesome. I cant stay off the computer waiting for the email from T-Mobile.
Edit: sold that baby for 480 buckaroos, had to do it while the gettin's good.

navillos said:
G2 having vanilla android was the nail in my nexus coffin to Oklahoma thank you ebay.
The G2 is going to be friggin awesome. I cant stay off the computer waiting for the email from T-Mobile.
Edit: sold that baby for 480 buckaroos, had to do it while the gettin's good.
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Haha. Sold my Vibrant today for $450!

Actually, the Verizon Motorola Droid 1, and LG Ally run stock android
Sent from my HTC Espresso, that is apperantly a failin device using the XDA App

Whoareyou said:
Actually, the Verizon Motorola Droid 1, and LG Ally run stock android
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except the original droid was pretty slow and the ally had some proprietary apps and themes on it.

My buddy that has used both phones said the N1 was snappier than the G2 in OS performance. Kind of bummed, they keyboard alone isn't enough for me since I've gotten used to SlideIt but maybe the hspa+ will be enough. I'll be keeping both phones just in case.

burton14e7 said:
My buddy that has used both phones said the N1 was snappier than the G2 in OS performance. Kind of bummed, they keyboard alone isn't enough for me since I've gotten used to SlideIt but maybe the hspa+ will be enough. I'll be keeping both phones just in case.
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could have been an early version and i find that odd since every other report says its supposed to be as fast or faster. its best to just wait and see for yourself. such as with more ram the phone will stay faster longer and multitask better then the n1 also more internal memory so you can have more apps without having to use aps2ext. plus a hardware keyboard is a must for some people though maybe not to you. the point is the nexus is dated in many ways so the g2 will outperform it in the long run. its better to wait until everything is finalized and the product is released then phonescoop and phonearena can do the comparisons with actual video and show which is faster.

agh. just want it to come out so we can run linpack on it and compare it with other phones

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stock is awesome cause froyo has built in tethering and hotspot support also allows for faster updates and better compatibility with custom roms.
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Here in lies the problem with calling the G2's Android 2.2 "stock" Android.
TMO has removed the wifi hotspot option from the OS.
Can it really be called stock then ?
Seems to me it cant be.
I have 2.2.1 on my Nexus and it has the wifi hotspot.
And its faster than tethering.
So TMO is in my estimation ripping people off calling it stock or vanilla.
Just saying.

going_home said:
Here in lies the problem with calling the G2's Android 2.2 "stock" Android.
TMO has removed the wifi hotspot option from the OS.
Can it really be called stock then ?
Seems to me it cant be.
I have 2.2.1 on my Nexus and it has the wifi hotspot.
And its faster than tethering.
So TMO is in my estimation ripping people off calling it stock or vanilla.
Just saying.
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Yeah, I don't like that they removed the hotspot in their flagship HSPA+ phone. That is insult to injury. I am not even getting > 1MB and am squarely in a HSPA+ area - that, my friends, is the injury.

[Q] Can I get some Opinions Please?

I have a G2. I love it. I have a Vibrant as well. I hate it. I have exchanged it 5 times for warranty I think. When talking to T-mobile they offered to exchange it for any device of equal retail value, within the next 30 days. I have until November 15 to decide what I want.
Since I already have a G2, what should I do? Should I get the MyTouch? Should I get the HD7? What would you do? Why?
Help me make a hard decision. I am leaning heavily towards the MyTouch. Can you think of any reason for me not too?

I would get another G2, wait a little while, get an unlock code from Tmo and then sell it on Ebay or Craigslist and keep the cash for the holidays

I would get a WP7 phone because this way youll be able to compare the two platforms (if you are a true phone geek)..... and if you dont like it, you can sell it for cold hard cash because it WILL be in demand for the holidays.

funkadesi said:
I would get a WP7 phone because this way youll be able to compare the two platforms (if you are a true phone geek)..... and if you dont like it, you can sell it for cold hard cash because it WILL be in demand for the holidays.
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LOL you are kidding, right?

I recommend getting the WP7 because the MTHD is just another Android device. Get the WP7 and see if it's a worthy platform. If you hate it, sell it.

I am severely torn actually. The problem I have with the WP7 is that it doesn't support the + network. They say the screen isn't so great.
The reason I can't decide about the MyTouch is because, really how much different will it be from my G2? I don't need a FFC, but I could use WIFI calling. Really the biggest reason I am considering the whole MyTouch is because at school I get 0 signal but I can get on the WIFI. It is to come with WIFI calling out of the box.
I guess I will have to go to the Store and compare before I make up my mind. I don't think anything better will be out before Christmas, so it is one of the two. I have to get rid of the POS Vibrant.
I wanted to love it but it is just way too buggy, laggy, and there is no support.
Any more suggestions?

The screen is pretty good. It's not the one on the HD2. I would definitely take the HD7.
You should have opened a poll.

Gr8gorilla said:
The reason I can't decide about the MyTouch is because, really how much different will it be from my G2? I don't need a FFC, but I could use WIFI calling. Really the biggest reason I am considering the whole MyTouch is because at school I get 0 signal but I can get on the WIFI. It is to come with WIFI calling out of the box.
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There were OTA updates rolling out for some G2 owners a few days ago. There are rumors that T-Mobile will make it official soon and have it spread. The OTA included UMA support (what you listed as "wifi calling"; to be fair, the application calls it that too). The biggest reason I returned my G2 was because it doesn't support UMA yet; I didn't realize how much I relied on it with my BB Pearl until I couldn't use the cell radio indoors.

ericc191 said:
The screen is pretty good. It's not the one on the HD2. I would definitely take the HD7.
You should have opened a poll.
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But the processor is the 1GHZ with the adreno 200. That means that the graphics will suffer in 3d games. Since the WP7 is supposed to be a huge gaming platform that worries me.

The reason it's called WiFi calling is that's because that's all it is. It isn't UMA. With UMA the call can be handed off to 3G seemlessly when you leave a WiFi area. The WiFi calling does not hand off the call, so in actuality it's not UMA at all.
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There were OTA updates rolling out for some G2 owners a few days ago. There are rumors that T-Mobile will make it official soon and have it spread. The OTA included UMA support (what you listed as "wifi calling"; to be fair, the application calls it that too). The biggest reason I returned my G2 was because it doesn't support UMA yet; I didn't realize how much I relied on it with my BB Pearl until I couldn't use the cell radio indoors.
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Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

id get the htc hd2. its a winmo phone, its got the 1ghz processor, plus you can install android on it anyways if you want.

I appreciate everyone chiming in with an opinion. I have made a choice and it is going to be the teeny clone of my G2.
Basically the hardware of the HD7 just doesn't cut it for me. It has the last generation processor. It has the old GPU and all reports say the screen is much less than impressive.
If it had hardware anywhere close to the G2 or MyTouch(4G) then I would love to give WP7 a shot. As it stands I am not going to take my $500 credit (that is what it is basically) and get last years hardware with this years OS on it. I just cant waste money like that.

Gr8gorilla said:
I appreciate everyone chiming in with an opinion. I have made a choice and it is going to be the teeny clone of my G2.
Basically the hardware of the HD7 just doesn't cut it for me. It has the last generation processor. It has the old GPU and all reports say the screen is much less than impressive.
If it had hardware anywhere close to the G2 or MyTouch(4G) then I would love to give WP7 a shot. As it stands I am not going to take my $500 credit (that is what it is basically) and get last years hardware with this years OS on it. I just cant waste money like that.
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While it may have the 1st generation Snapdragon, it's far from outdated. And you miss a key point with the Adreno 200. Microsoft has written drivers for it. Microsoft will also be supporting Xbox mobile with a lot of titles and updates. With Android, which has been out for 2 years, your options are tower defense, angry birds, and fruit ninja. There's also emulation, but that will come to WP7 too. However, the G2's keyboard is superior for emulation.
Here's some gameplay on the older adreno 200..
Need For Speed
Harvest Clip 1
Harvest Clip 2
Engadget - Bottom 3 videos
Rocket Riot from the 360 is also being ported to WP7. There's even talk of a Halo game.
EDIT: I hope these links help. The G2 is an awesome phone, but I wanted to make sure you had the facts about the Adreno 200.

Gingerbread
I wish I could own everyphone that comes out.
Spend it wisely, if you love android... get android!!!
Gingerbread hopefully will put Microsoft into shame.

The best phone

Today I had an epiphany. LOL not really. I keep reading about everyone saying their phone is the best. The truely best phone out there is whatever my carrier allows me to purchase that I can "AFFORD". I have the Aria. I wanted the Captivate but right now $199 is not in the budget. Plus it has/had problems that we all know At&t could care less about. The Xperia looked good but also released with way outdated software. Again At&t could care less. The WM7 phones look ok and are cheap at least at best buy. I would love to be able to buy an unlocked phone of my choice, but I am not in a posistion to drop $500 on my ideal phone. So back in October when BestBuy had free phone Fridays I chose the Aria. Or should I say Best Buy chose it for me. LOL. I am verry happy with the phone. All of the ROMS here make it even better and I am thankful for that. I would like one of these 4" screen phones but right now I am stuck at 3". So the BEST PHONE out there is chosen by my carrier and my wallet sad to say. Although my wallet limits what I can get I still kind of wish phones and carriers were not linked together

What's wrong with the Aria? It's small, so the 600mHz processor acts like a 1 gHz processor--there's no lag. Once it's rooted, hey, it can be whatever you want it to be. I love the phone because it's small & powerful.

Nothing wrong with Aria
tribestros said:
What's wrong with the Aria? It's small, so the 600mHz processor acts like a 1 gHz processor--there's no lag. Once it's rooted, hey, it can be whatever you want it to be. I love the phone because it's small & powerful.
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Frankly there is nothing wrong with the Aria. I just have screen size envy. LOL Ironically I did not give it a thought originally. I wanted the biggest baddest handset out there. You know its a guy thing. I like my aria a lot. I did not write the post to dis the Aria as much as people talking about the best phone is their phone. After reading a lot of forum posts I think the Aria was the better choice. The Captivate does not seem as easy/friendly to work with for mods. So I would recommend the Aria. I do not really care that much if I have the biggest Di.. er I mean phone. Just that I can work with It. My Computer skills are average for what someone can learn on-line

i just wanted a htc android att phone... thats why i got the aria