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just got back to London from Christmas in the country - first road test for my Trinity.
Very disappointed with reception when out of town. I'm on vodafone UK - in areas where my back up phones (RAZR V3i & Samsung D900) had 4 bars and a perfect signal, my Trinity had no reception at all.
In locations where I was getting a (weak) 2 bar 3G signal on Nokia N70 the Trinity had no coverage at all.
Interested to hear any other experience on signal strength & reception with the Trinity as it hasn't been out of it's box for my week away from town (it was a brick) which is not going to work for me.....
I cannot agree with your complain, maybe you have a defective mobile?
I have a nokia n70 and when i check the network coverage difference for the same network in both mobiles i see that normally the Trinity is the same or better.
I have a strange reception problem with the Trinity using Celcom 3G (Malaysia). When I'm at home at my apartment (23rd floor), the unit is consistently dropping calls after a duration of between 1 and 4 minutes. I can get through to the person I'm calling, or the caller can reach me; but after a while the call gets garbled and then the phone disconnects. 3G signal strength in my apartment is 80% to 90%, so I don't understand what the problem is.
If I switch to 2G band in my apartment or I go to ground level, I don't have this problem. Any ideas what might be causing this?
Mark One said:
just got back to London from Christmas in the country - first road test for my Trinity.
Very disappointed with reception when out of town. I'm on vodafone UK - in areas where my back up phones (RAZR V3i & Samsung D900) had 4 bars and a perfect signal, my Trinity had no reception at all.
In locations where I was getting a (weak) 2 bar 3G signal on Nokia N70 the Trinity had no coverage at all.
Interested to hear any other experience on signal strength & reception with the Trinity as it hasn't been out of it's box for my week away from town (it was a brick) which is not going to work for me.....
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I have owned a Prophet for a year now. I recently received my new Trinity. I was really disappointed to find that my Trinity was having trouble acquiring a signal after a soft reset while my Prophet grabbed one immediately. I discovered that the GSM chip I had put my Trinity was an old one. I went into Cingular and they replaced it with a brand new 3G chip and that solved all the problems. Now my Trinity is running circles around my Prophet in every respect, including GSM reception, wifi reception and phone sound quality. Yippeee!
Edit: I might also add that I am in a "fringe" area for reception at the moment, and out of all of the GSM phones from all of my relatives in our house that are here for the holidays, my Trinity is getting the best reception by a long shot.
Thanks Mattehorn,
Yup, I am still using my legacy SIM (if that's what you mean by GSM chip) - vodafone assured me that I would not need a new SIM but I will push them a bit on this point.
Hi all,
I am thinking of ordering teh Xperia from mobiles or o2 direct, having already placed an order for hte HD but o2 are taking a ****ing age getting it "approved" or delaying it for whatever reason.
Question is - although i like the look of the xperia i've heard a bad things about the reception and as I'll be using the xperia as a business phone *calls and synching outlook contacts/calendar etc. will the poor reception prove too much of a problem? I woudl only be getting the phone on the o2 network.
I use Vodafone, and I came from using a N95 to an X1 and have noticed a downgrade in signal strength.
I suppose it depends on where you live, if u have had reception problems previous then going to a X1 might be the same maybe worse.
I am absolutely loving this device. It’s taking some time to get used to, but WOW I have all but praises for this phone (apart from the signal strength of course).
My advice would be to get the phone over the internet or telesales. At lease then you should have 14 days to evaluate the phone (that’s what Vodafone UK do – I’m on the 4th day in now)
What I can say, is that the bars on the phone are a bit deceptive, and when it has none/1 bar, I can still make a perfectly good phone call.
smurkej said:
Hi all,
I am thinking of ordering teh Xperia from mobiles or o2 direct, having already placed an order for hte HD but o2 are taking a ****ing age getting it "approved" or delaying it for whatever reason.
Question is - although i like the look of the xperia i've heard a bad things about the reception and as I'll be using the xperia as a business phone *calls and synching outlook contacts/calendar etc. will the poor reception prove too much of a problem? I woudl only be getting the phone on the o2 network.
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I am on Orange UK and get FULL signal strength at home and 3 bars when out and about. I think that's pretty much what I expect from any phone. I really think it all depends on the network and your location, NOT the phone. O2 PAYG sim more or less the same.
Don't let other users experiences put you off. It really is a great phone!
It can still depend on the phone, but then on each separate unit.
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I use Vodafone, and I came from using a N95 to an X1 and have noticed a downgrade in signal strength.
I suppose it depends on where you live, if u have had reception problems previous then going to a X1 might be the same maybe worse.
I am absolutely loving this device. It’s taking some time to get used to, but WOW I have all but praises for this phone (apart from the signal strength of course).
My advice would be to get the phone over the internet or telesales. At lease then you should have 14 days to evaluate the phone (that’s what Vodafone UK do – I’m on the 4th day in now)
What I can say, is that the bars on the phone are a bit deceptive, and when it has none/1 bar, I can still make a perfectly good phone call.
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I second this. Its an amazing phone, try it for 14 days and see if the signal will be a problem. It will get better, with radio upgrades and this rumoured antenna upgrade, but for now the signal is passable for me.
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I second this. Its an amazing phone, try it for 14 days and see if the signal will be a problem. It will get better, with radio upgrades and this rumoured antenna upgrade, but for now the signal is passable for me.
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rumoured antenna upgrade
Tell me.
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rumoured antenna upgrade
Tell me.
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Damn I can't seem tofind it. It was just a rumor from another user for an antenna upgrade in January 2009 that SE were going to do.
Probably just wishful thinking.
I too have been rather put off by all the negative comments re: poor reception. Although my X1, now 5 day old, only shows 3 bars of reception most of the time, the actual call quality is fine - its just that I've become very aware of any deterioration in sound quality after reading the negative posts.
I'd echo what everyone else has said, try it for yourself & see what its like....just ignore what the phone says its reception is!
It seems this isn't an unknown problem with some other HTC devices and is often improved with a firmware upgrade (at the slight expense of battery life)
Paul
I have no reception Issues I have X1i and X1a in USA
I almost always have GSM, but 3g is sketchy. If you compare it to a nokia E90 with the same sim in, its always 2 bars less.
3G only and no problems with the reception. Most of the time 1 bar less than my old HTC Trinity, which had very, very nice reception.
i've been on to carphonewarehouse today and they say my lack of 3G is the xperia. when I stand next to a colleague with an iphone, they have full 3G and I'm stuck with crappy Edge! I've got a week to decide but at the moment it looks like the xperia is going back.
I suspect those people with good 3G don't live in the UK.
I get really good HSPDA (on Vodafone UK) whilst at work and it's not too bad whilst at home but I prefer to have 2g with Wifi.
I dont see a problem with reception compared to other phones using the same sim, it's hanging onto the signal that's more of an issue. It can go from 2 to no signal fairly quickly without moving the handset.
Comparing number of bars across different makes of phone is not sensible as one manufacturer may use more bars to show the same strength of signal.
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Damn I can't seem tofind it. It was just a rumor from another user for an antenna upgrade in January 2009 that SE were going to do.
Probably just wishful thinking.
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Was it this post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2908167&postcount=4
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reception is poor on the x1 my work ordered 150 units which all went back. SE said they will have a new revision Jan09 a rom upgrade will not fix this issue. They need to revise the antenna. I sent my phone back today as at work it could not hold a 3g signal were my HTC Diamond PRO does both on the same network.
The X1 is a good phone but 2 problems for me it is not a keeper the bad keyboard
and reception issues.
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Yeah this is the one.
surprising people are having so many problems with poor reception, i had full reception at home, on my sony ericsson p1i and with my x1i i still get full signal and hsdpa. Still get more or less full signal when i'm not at home. I'm on O2 UK
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I have no reception Issues I have X1i and X1a in USA
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what part of the usa if u dont mind me asking. im considering getting a X1
I'm so ****ing tired of this now. Who will pay for all my extra costs with drooped calls because of the bad reception. arghhh!!! This is so ****ing frustrating.
You should flash your mobile too...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464575
Wiil the reception increse if i do that?
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Wiil the reception increse if i do that?
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All i know is that my Xperia's reception is awesome! Even better than my iPhone's. No harm in giving it a shot - worst case, doesn't work... best case, you get the perfect phone!
ok, all I know is that that is the number one thing many X1 owners is talking about. It is already well known. If you compare it to the iPhone 3G i can understand that it is better but in other cases. I don't think so.
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ok, all I know is that that is the number one thing many X1 owners is talking about. It is already well known. If you compare it to the iPhone 3G i can understand that it is better but in other cases. I don't think so.
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Well... i was comparing it to the iPhone 'cos it is what i have other than the Xperia. But i can definitly say with 100% certainty that my Xperia's performance is awesome! Better than my cousin's HTC Touch Diamond, and my friend's Nokia... (Xperia is most definitely the best windows mobile device out there that goes head on with all other devices)
Of course it is the best phone on the market, no doubt. But the reception is giving me dropped calls and that is not ok for me in a big city.
The only reception problems I have are thanks to poor O2 reception in my house. Its no different to any other phone though from what I can tell.
I tested a T-Mobile SIM in my X1 and it was much better. So it might not be the X1 at fault, could be the network.
maybe your x1 is faulty... I don't have any reception problems, comparing with my previous phone (se w910) reception is the same...
both have "less bars" than my "previous-previous" phone but thats because that was runing in 3g mode and w910 and x1 stay all day in hsdpa mode.
Well, my provider have bad reception in my appartment. But my crappy Nokia N81 didn't have any problem with that. The thing with Three, that is my operator, is that they don't have GSM when the 3G reception is bad. The strange thing is that when I'm at the countryside where my parets lives I have full HDSPA reception. Maby the x1 dosen't have bad reception but it is not working so well with only 2 bars of reception.
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Well, my provider have bad reception in my appartment. But my crappy Nokia N81 didn't have any problem with that. The thing with Three, that is my operator, is that they don't have GSM when the 3G reception is bad. The strange thing is that when I'm at the countryside where my parets lives I have full HDSPA reception. Maby the x1 dosen't have bad reception but it is not working so well with only 2 bars of reception.
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Could be... but i went to a wedding 2 hours from Lahore, and i got very little signal strength there. It even dropped to 1 bar at times... but regardless of the weak signal, i didn't face any call drops other than once when the signal completely tanked.
Talking about reception... when i got my iPhone, my old Mobilink number gave me tons of trouble. Not only call drops but also constant charges for Edge/GPRS which i wasn't even using most of the time. When i switched the network to Warid, no more problems.
Who knows what could be the problem. My advice is to try flashing the software... there is a chance that this problem is due to a software fault or something.
maybe we all have a difference case since most of us use a different network in different country... but just comparing the phone itself with other phones... mine always has the best signal among them no matter what phone you are comparing it to
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Could be... but i went to a wedding 2 hours from Lahore, and i got very little signal strength there. It even dropped to 1 bar at times... but regardless of the weak signal, i didn't face any call drops other than once when the signal completely tanked.
Talking about reception... when i got my iPhone, my old Mobilink number gave me tons of trouble. Not only call drops but also constant charges for Edge/GPRS which i wasn't even using most of the time. When i switched the network to Warid, no more problems.
Who knows what could be the problem. My advice is to try flashing the software... there is a chance that this problem is due to a software fault or something.
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I recived a PM from emwdava that told me that i had the same problem with three. He is now using Tele2 and that seems to work much better. So maybe the problem lies there. Anyway. I'm stuck with them until the middle of 2010 because of the N81 mentioned before.
Don't know if i should flash with 2.1 of one well known ROM or wait for an update from SE.
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I recived a PM from emwdava that told me that i had the same problem with three. He is now using Tele2 and that seems to work much better. So maybe the problem lies there. Anyway. I'm stuck with them until the middle of 2010 because of the N81 mentioned before.
Don't know if i should flash with 2.1 of one well known ROM or wait for an update from SE.
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Your guess would be as good as mine.
Three might be the problem here... but there's also a chance - in my opinion - that it might be resolved/improved on refreshing the mobile firmware.
Good luck to you!
I think that the problem is your provider!
Watch my case. I have two diferent providers, one is vodafone the other is optimus and im from portugal.
as much optimus as vodafone declares that in my zone I have 100% of covering
watch the fotos!
If I dont have the two diferent providers and so have the optimus I will tell you that the problem is the xperia.
sory for my bad english.
Cheers
Watch the providers comparison.
Many users have complaint about poor (weak) signal reception...
But others (as me) are getting full bars and excelent coverage
Please vote and tell the world your Xperience
Mine seems to be okay. My completely subjective opinion is that it's not quite as good as my old Motorola Q9h Global, but it is about as good as my Nokia E71-2.
Considering that I live in zone 1 of one of the worlds major capitals the signal is crap ! ... in terms of reception DEFINITELY the worse phone I ever had (this is Vodafone / London)
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Considering that I live in zone 1 of one of the worlds major capitals the signal is crap ! ... in terms of reception DEFINITELY the worse phone I ever had (this is Vodafone / London)
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Tested another carrier ??
Testd another phone ??
Xperia is crap ??
or Vodafone is crap ??
This is exactly what we expect to find with this poll
I have no problem whatsoever with signal reception anywhere in the city, almost alway full bar.
in buildings (basement, any floor upwards) i got either 2 bars or 3 bars AND HSDPA.
i live in Jakarta, Indonesia btw...
Well.. I'm from Telcel Mexico, and I've been testing several radios (stock, xperia's 1.10.25. I dont remember) and the latest from the blackstone.. I've something to say... My Motorola MPx220 has better reception... even my girlfriends LG's Shine has reception in some places I dont
I'm hopping that Sony Ericcson can solve this.. (believe me.. it's really a shame that my girlfriend makes fun of my SUPER POWERFUL phone's crap reception..)
The signal on my X1i is fine, although i can see that the bars fluctuate a lot depending on the location i have never had any dropped calls. I assume that the measurement system on the X1i is far more accurate than i.e. a Nokia where it shows always a full signal until you dial a call and then it drops down a few bars to its actual reading.
I would say the signal is as strong as with the Nokia N95 and the SE w900i before. I cannot complain.
Don't mind your X1.. blame your operator for the signal!
2008 I had 4 phones all using Vodafone UK.... W960i, W880i, W890i and the X1, going round the same places the signal strength is on par with the w960i for me and better than the w880i and w890i... So that is comparing against 3 other Sony phones....
In the Central US with T-Mobile reception is just fine. = to my w850i
For me the X1 works much better than Tytn and Kaiser. I know than Tele2 (Swedish operator) have done som uppgrading. 2G / 3G switching works great now. Before the upgrade it was bad.
Had my x1 a week, currently it's getting the same if not slightly better signal than other HTC/SE phones in our house. Our town has poor reception in most areas but my x1 has been no different from other phones so far.
Well i know there were concerns about using T-mobile UK with the X1 but i've not really had any problems. I used to have the w580i and i'd say that was worse than the xperia. My house isn't particulary great for signal and i have two/three bars. So yeah...no issue here!
No problems at all here -London on Vodafone
I think we should separate X1i and X1a pole. Look at my reception on X1a with AT&T 3G. I paid $30 for internet
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Don't mind your X1.. blame your operator for the signal!
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Location: My home address
Operator: O2
Phone: HTC Hermes = connects to HSDPA in every room - never loose signal
Phone: HTC Polaris = connects to HSDPA in every room - never loose signal
Phone: Xperia = Connects to GPRS in most rooms, very occassionaly HSDPA - looses signal regularly
I have tried 3 Xperias all with the same result.
You want me to blame my operator?
When the Xperia is close to a base-station/transmitter there are no signal problems. As soon as the environment gets slightly tricky, it can't cope, unlike my older HTC phones as demonstrated above.
At work, I don't have a problem with any of my phones including the Xperia; I have a base-station on the roof of my office building
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I think we should separate X1i and X1a pole. Look at my reception on X1a with AT&T 3G. I paid $30 for internet
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I have both X1a & X1i
My reception on X1a with TIGO 3.5G 850MHz is always HSDPA FULL BARS (urban)
I pay half that for 3,600 kbps internet
Still wanna blame the Xperia ??
That's not fair (for the phone)
I ve been with vodafone for the past years at the same address and all other phones get better signal ... however, the main problem is that the Xperia keeps dropping the signal for no reason. to give an exampe ..
Phone lies on my desk with 2 bars reception... when I reach for the phone to write a message or make a phone call, chances are that just by picking it up, e.g. moving it for a couple of inches, the phone will drop the signal .. then I ll have to wait for a minute till it picks it up again - as soon as it does it is back up to 2 bars and I can start making the phone call.
this is however only in areas where the signal is generally weaker e.g. where u would normally not get more than 2 bars anyway (like where I live - although I get full reception on my nokias with the same sim card).
If you are somewhere with good reception then there is no problem
hope that helps
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I ve been with vodafone for the past years at the same address and all other phones get better signal ... however, the main problem is that the Xperia keeps dropping the signal for no reason. to give an exampe ..
Phone lies on my desk with 2 bars reception... when I reach for the phone to write a message or make a phone call, chances are that just by picking it up, e.g. moving it for a couple of inches, the phone will drop the signal .. then I ll have to wait for a minute till it picks it up again - as soon as it does it is back up to 2 bars and I can start making the phone call.
this is however only in areas where the signal is generally weaker e.g. where u would normally not get more than 2 bars anyway (like where I live - although I get full reception on my nokias with the same sim card).
If you are somewhere with good reception then there is no problem
hope that helps
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Yep, I get that as well.
I've been using the HTC One for the last couple of days deciding between it and my Xperia Z.
This phone is the best I've used and IMO feels better than XZ in several ways.
However, the signal strength in low reception areas is very unstable. Compared with the XZ it is poor which I am not happy about it as I was planning to return the XZ and keep this. On XZ I get 3 bars of 4G and it stays that way with no dropped calls. On the HTC it's 1 bar and then switches to 4 bars 3g (on XZ full bars on 3g) then back to 4g. I've had calls drop mid conversation 7 times in 2 days! This is mainly in lower signal areas including indoors.
I have till today to return the XZ but I am honestly not sure what to do. Even the earpiece sound on HTC is better than XZ..hmm..
Do any of you know if HTC are any good with updates regarding signal stability?
If it's something fixable then I'd rather keep the HTC One. Other than this it's a flawless smartphone. So frustrated the signal reception is like this.
Signal seems slightly better than my Galaxy S3
I have great signal with this phone better than my nexus4 & iPhone.
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my signal is so much better than my htc sensation, tested with the same sim card and htc one has 2 bars better constantly.
How many of you people saying "it's better than my..." are talking about 4G signal strength?
Are you guys on 4g too if I may ask?
I'm baffled as too why this is happening when directly compared to the XZ. Maybe it's only in low signal areas.
I've kept it on 3g only and performance is more stable and holding on to signal better. There is no question in my experience that XZ holds on to 4g signal much better.
Haven't decided what to do yet as I much prefer the HTC but the 4g issue is a real shame.
Most probably know this, but just FYI -- often radios will fall back to HSPA from HSPA+ to save juice when no data is being used. This might be in play here.
I couldn't bring myself to return the HTC so will return the Sony.
The other advantages to me could not be over looked especially the processor, speakers, display and sense.
However I really hope the signal on 4g will improve with an update. I'm pretty sure this was addressed with other phones in the past.
This video I saw also show some of the advantages of HTC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqhUGpSd3mc&feature=youtube_gdata_player:
I was using my friends HTC ONE In canada and he'd constantly have service (like 2 bars) as he was on LTE. LTE isn't available in all areas and where we live we get 3 bars of LTE if we're lucky. So all he did was turn LTE off and it was full bars as usual. The amount of bars we had with LTE was for the most part better than my Iphone5 and my other friends samsung galaxy s3.
I don't know about 4g signal but 2g/3g signal is far better than any phone I have ever had, my local tesco express is a killer for reception on every phone I have had except the one x which held up well but had like 2 bars 3 if I was lucky, with my one I get 4 bars and even 5 bars sometimes as I walk around the store and I have had the phone a week now and no signal or gps or wifi problems at all.
I was having connection issues even on 3G/H+ so what ive done is just turn off LTE and just kept it on GSM/WCDMA as i dont even have a 4G LTE plan and that has seemed to fix my issue so it may help other non-LTE users having signal issues.
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I was having connection issues even on 3G/H+ so what ive done is just turn off LTE and just kept it on GSM/WCDMA as i dont even have a 4G LTE plan and that has seemed to fix my issue so it may help other non-LTE users having signal issues.
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Yes you are right with regards to this. As stated earlier I'm keeping the phone but this clearly demonstrates an issue with 4G that needs to be addressed. I tried the demo unit in store again and disabled wifi; same thing with 4G performance.
In poor signal areas I lose reception totally and concerned I have a faulty phone, where as the iphone gets 2bars, I lose it all together on the one. Was in the meeting today and everyone had reception but me, however it sometimes came back with one bar...
If the signal is strong, I have no problems, is where there is weak signal I get issues. Anybody else confirm the same?
Oh sorry I misread. Other reviews have mentioned it is fine with LTE.
I finally made my return but returned the HTC and kept the Sony. Obviously the HTC betters the Sony in some ways but I need reliable call quality.
I don't care what HTC call the antenna but in my experience it does not perform as well as others.
I pay more for LTE and it bothered me to keep losing calls.
To be honest this is mostly in low signal areas but regardless the Sony and the Lumia held on much better to a weak 4g and 3g signal.
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I finally made my return but returned the HTC and kept the Sony. Obviously the HTC betters the Sony in some ways but I need reliable call quality.
I don't care what HTC call the antenna but in my experience it does not perform as well as others.
I pay more for LTE and it bothered me to keep losing calls.
To be honest this is mostly in low signal areas but regardless the Sony and the Lumia held on much better to a weak 4g and 3g signal.
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So is this problem happens when you have 4g. İ bought my fone from uk fones4u so if its same ill have to send it back
cihanleanne said:
So is this problem happens when you have 4g. İ bought my fone from uk fones4u so if its same ill have to send it back
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Yes it's mostly with 4g only and most noticeable with call switching to 3g. I too am with EE and got it from p4u. If you don't make many calls I think it's ok. Honestly though I wouldn't trust it in low signal areas and say you need an urgent email. In my opinion the radio is not the best. Not sure if it's h/w or s/w fault but even when I sowed it to the guys in p4u inside a shopping centre it had the worst signal compared to others (4g). However WiFi is excellent.
You may have an issue with antenna connection to the motherboard as a result of production tolerances. Try to see if you can test another unit to verify that the issue exists.
Nabeel Kiani said:
I was using my friends HTC ONE In canada and he'd constantly have service (like 2 bars) as he was on LTE. LTE isn't available in all areas and where we live we get 3 bars of LTE if we're lucky. So all he did was turn LTE off and it was full bars as usual. The amount of bars we had with LTE was for the most part better than my Iphone5 and my other friends samsung galaxy s3.
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so you're able to get LTE in canada?
If i can ask you a few question,
1) which area you at?
2) where your friend got HTC one?
3) are you with rogers?
Thanks =)
Just wanted to add that the poor signal reception experienced is with regards to the UK 4G Lte.
This is currently with the EE network which operates the LTE on 1800 MHz.
I have tested it against the Sony Z, Nokia Lumia 920 in the same spot and the reception was inferior and overall poor.
In the store I tested it against a S3 (4g) and iPhone 5 all on the same network and it showed lower reception in 4g.
Please note that the problem is with 4g and functions well on 3g and WiFi is excellent as previously stated.