just got back to London from Christmas in the country - first road test for my Trinity.
Very disappointed with reception when out of town. I'm on vodafone UK - in areas where my back up phones (RAZR V3i & Samsung D900) had 4 bars and a perfect signal, my Trinity had no reception at all.
In locations where I was getting a (weak) 2 bar 3G signal on Nokia N70 the Trinity had no coverage at all.
Interested to hear any other experience on signal strength & reception with the Trinity as it hasn't been out of it's box for my week away from town (it was a brick) which is not going to work for me.....
I cannot agree with your complain, maybe you have a defective mobile?
I have a nokia n70 and when i check the network coverage difference for the same network in both mobiles i see that normally the Trinity is the same or better.
I have a strange reception problem with the Trinity using Celcom 3G (Malaysia). When I'm at home at my apartment (23rd floor), the unit is consistently dropping calls after a duration of between 1 and 4 minutes. I can get through to the person I'm calling, or the caller can reach me; but after a while the call gets garbled and then the phone disconnects. 3G signal strength in my apartment is 80% to 90%, so I don't understand what the problem is.
If I switch to 2G band in my apartment or I go to ground level, I don't have this problem. Any ideas what might be causing this?
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just got back to London from Christmas in the country - first road test for my Trinity.
Very disappointed with reception when out of town. I'm on vodafone UK - in areas where my back up phones (RAZR V3i & Samsung D900) had 4 bars and a perfect signal, my Trinity had no reception at all.
In locations where I was getting a (weak) 2 bar 3G signal on Nokia N70 the Trinity had no coverage at all.
Interested to hear any other experience on signal strength & reception with the Trinity as it hasn't been out of it's box for my week away from town (it was a brick) which is not going to work for me.....
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I have owned a Prophet for a year now. I recently received my new Trinity. I was really disappointed to find that my Trinity was having trouble acquiring a signal after a soft reset while my Prophet grabbed one immediately. I discovered that the GSM chip I had put my Trinity was an old one. I went into Cingular and they replaced it with a brand new 3G chip and that solved all the problems. Now my Trinity is running circles around my Prophet in every respect, including GSM reception, wifi reception and phone sound quality. Yippeee!
Edit: I might also add that I am in a "fringe" area for reception at the moment, and out of all of the GSM phones from all of my relatives in our house that are here for the holidays, my Trinity is getting the best reception by a long shot.
Thanks Mattehorn,
Yup, I am still using my legacy SIM (if that's what you mean by GSM chip) - vodafone assured me that I would not need a new SIM but I will push them a bit on this point.
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Can you please comment on reception and what SIM / line provider are you using?
Is it easy to connect even indoors?
Is I-Mate really better than most in providing updates?
Thanks very much in advance.
I am in NY city using t-mobile
In general, the reception is just as bad as any other phone I used (mostly comparing to Wallaby, which was the immediate predecessor of Universal)
Reception in mid-town manhattan sucks *ss. Stand in the middle of a higher floor in a building, you are lucky to get in 2 words without static.
On the street, avenues are fine, but the streets - forget it.
I am finding that reception is better than wallaby in some places and worse in others. In average the same, but different. I was surprised just today in a basement movie theater (DooM rocks!!!), where wallaby would not have a signal at all (been there before), universal had 2 bars. On the other hand, when crossing central park in a car, where I didn't have a problem with wallaby, universal cuts off consistently. Go figure.
Of course nothing matches the reception of my old T39.
As for GPRS, for some reason, the fastest speed I got on universal is 39Kb. Wallaby used to give me 49Kb. But that may not be a reception issue, but a side effect of the general sluggishness of the device.
I'm using Cingular in Chicago. I've had pretty good results even though I don't have 850 mhz. There are some places like inside large precast shopping stores where it doesn't work very well, but it works for the most part.
Fernando in Miami here, T-Mobile. JASJAR works fine, I get great reception in most places. It does lose reception inside large concrete buildings, but it works fine for the most part.
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Fernando in Miami here, T-Mobile. JASJAR works fine, I get great reception in most places. It does lose reception inside large concrete buildings, but it works fine for the most part.
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Florida is all flat land, I visited there and never lost a bar of service it's amazing. I am moving there in the spring .
T-mobile in New Mexico. So far seems to be working fairly well. I haven't had it long, so can't say too much. I have been waiting for this type of device for so long, that basically I'm just thrilled to have it, and I think I'll be pretty forgiving if I have a dropped call. It's just a great little machine. Because it is tri-band, you really want to consider T-mobile since they are all 1900.
Cheers.
I just wanted to post a warning message for all users contemplating using Orange. I have switched from Vodafone to Orange. I have an unlocked SPV 3100. While I was using a Vodafone sim I has a 3G signal 85 – 90% of the time.
I have now switched over to orange (Business contract) and in the same device I have seen a 3G signal once (for about 30 seconds) in 3 weeks. I live and work in central London so this seems ridiculous!
There are two companies I am involved with who have bought business phones for all their staff who work all over London. All users have huge signal problems. It seems that Oranges infrastructure is far inferior to other networks. I can’t believe that in a major city I cannot get a 3G signal. Most of the time I have 2 bars on a GPRS signal.
So anyone currently contemplating which service provider to choose be warned. It is a shame because the SPV 3100 is a great looking phone, if only Orange had the coverage to allow you to use it properly!
It turns out that Orange provided me with a sim card which was not 3G Capable. I new sim should sort this issue out!
Thought it was strange i live in central London and my phone (Universal) nearly always has 3g availability with the full 4 bars of signal when i'm at home.
Before this phone I had the Blue Angel (M2000 - only 2.5g) and I would only get 1-2 bars of signal when i was at home.
Hope the new SIM sorts it.
Matt
LeoPheonix said:
I just wanted to post a warning message for all users contemplating using Orange.
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It seems that Oranges infrastructure is far inferior to other networks. I can’t believe that in a major city I cannot get a 3G signal. Most of the time I have 2 bars on a GPRS signal.
So anyone currently contemplating which service provider to choose be warned. It is a shame because the SPV 3100 is a great looking phone, if only Orange had the coverage to allow you to use it properly!
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Completely agree with this. I was an original user of Orange back in '94 until earlier this year - swapped to O2 cos signal 'seems' to be better than the others. Use Voda for work and O2 is consistenly better where I live/go for business (including London)
I used to drive from Manchester Airport around the M60 and then 6 miles north and used to lose calls 4 times on the journey in exactly the same place (despite having a properly fitted car kit). Orange really needs to sort it's network strength out.
Yep I switched from O2 to Orange a few months back. I can't believe how crappy 3g coverage is at my house and in the office (west London, W4/W5)... very disappointing.
I just got a second hand HTC Hermes locally here in the US. My signal bar is always bouncing between 1 and 3 in areas that are very strong. It is at ZERO bars in my house. I still have my XDA II and the signal is FULL in strong areas and 2 to 3 in my house. Is the Hermes normally not as good with signal strength compares to my XDA II ? Or is there something wrong with the Hermes since I got it used? Thanks.
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Try using a different radio. Works better for me in areas my MDA got weak signals.
I was using the original ROM with radio 1.03.03.10 when I bought the phone. I just upgrade to ROM 2.11.255.1 with radio 1.38.00.10 . It didn't help my situation at all. What radio version is everyone using?
I have a genuine htc Hermes, live in Kentucky with T-Mobile service. I get a fantastic connection to the network - four bars inside my house and it can't get better outside. It does sometimes go down to 2 bars in areas with limited coverage, but predominately I have a great connection.
Radio version is 1.34.00.10. ROM is 1.21.116.4.
Hope that helps you.
--Kidd
Many users have complaint about poor (weak) signal reception...
But others (as me) are getting full bars and excelent coverage
Please vote and tell the world your Xperience
Mine seems to be okay. My completely subjective opinion is that it's not quite as good as my old Motorola Q9h Global, but it is about as good as my Nokia E71-2.
Considering that I live in zone 1 of one of the worlds major capitals the signal is crap ! ... in terms of reception DEFINITELY the worse phone I ever had (this is Vodafone / London)
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Considering that I live in zone 1 of one of the worlds major capitals the signal is crap ! ... in terms of reception DEFINITELY the worse phone I ever had (this is Vodafone / London)
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Tested another carrier ??
Testd another phone ??
Xperia is crap ??
or Vodafone is crap ??
This is exactly what we expect to find with this poll
I have no problem whatsoever with signal reception anywhere in the city, almost alway full bar.
in buildings (basement, any floor upwards) i got either 2 bars or 3 bars AND HSDPA.
i live in Jakarta, Indonesia btw...
Well.. I'm from Telcel Mexico, and I've been testing several radios (stock, xperia's 1.10.25. I dont remember) and the latest from the blackstone.. I've something to say... My Motorola MPx220 has better reception... even my girlfriends LG's Shine has reception in some places I dont
I'm hopping that Sony Ericcson can solve this.. (believe me.. it's really a shame that my girlfriend makes fun of my SUPER POWERFUL phone's crap reception..)
The signal on my X1i is fine, although i can see that the bars fluctuate a lot depending on the location i have never had any dropped calls. I assume that the measurement system on the X1i is far more accurate than i.e. a Nokia where it shows always a full signal until you dial a call and then it drops down a few bars to its actual reading.
I would say the signal is as strong as with the Nokia N95 and the SE w900i before. I cannot complain.
Don't mind your X1.. blame your operator for the signal!
2008 I had 4 phones all using Vodafone UK.... W960i, W880i, W890i and the X1, going round the same places the signal strength is on par with the w960i for me and better than the w880i and w890i... So that is comparing against 3 other Sony phones....
In the Central US with T-Mobile reception is just fine. = to my w850i
For me the X1 works much better than Tytn and Kaiser. I know than Tele2 (Swedish operator) have done som uppgrading. 2G / 3G switching works great now. Before the upgrade it was bad.
Had my x1 a week, currently it's getting the same if not slightly better signal than other HTC/SE phones in our house. Our town has poor reception in most areas but my x1 has been no different from other phones so far.
Well i know there were concerns about using T-mobile UK with the X1 but i've not really had any problems. I used to have the w580i and i'd say that was worse than the xperia. My house isn't particulary great for signal and i have two/three bars. So yeah...no issue here!
No problems at all here -London on Vodafone
I think we should separate X1i and X1a pole. Look at my reception on X1a with AT&T 3G. I paid $30 for internet
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Don't mind your X1.. blame your operator for the signal!
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Location: My home address
Operator: O2
Phone: HTC Hermes = connects to HSDPA in every room - never loose signal
Phone: HTC Polaris = connects to HSDPA in every room - never loose signal
Phone: Xperia = Connects to GPRS in most rooms, very occassionaly HSDPA - looses signal regularly
I have tried 3 Xperias all with the same result.
You want me to blame my operator?
When the Xperia is close to a base-station/transmitter there are no signal problems. As soon as the environment gets slightly tricky, it can't cope, unlike my older HTC phones as demonstrated above.
At work, I don't have a problem with any of my phones including the Xperia; I have a base-station on the roof of my office building
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I think we should separate X1i and X1a pole. Look at my reception on X1a with AT&T 3G. I paid $30 for internet
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I have both X1a & X1i
My reception on X1a with TIGO 3.5G 850MHz is always HSDPA FULL BARS (urban)
I pay half that for 3,600 kbps internet
Still wanna blame the Xperia ??
That's not fair (for the phone)
I ve been with vodafone for the past years at the same address and all other phones get better signal ... however, the main problem is that the Xperia keeps dropping the signal for no reason. to give an exampe ..
Phone lies on my desk with 2 bars reception... when I reach for the phone to write a message or make a phone call, chances are that just by picking it up, e.g. moving it for a couple of inches, the phone will drop the signal .. then I ll have to wait for a minute till it picks it up again - as soon as it does it is back up to 2 bars and I can start making the phone call.
this is however only in areas where the signal is generally weaker e.g. where u would normally not get more than 2 bars anyway (like where I live - although I get full reception on my nokias with the same sim card).
If you are somewhere with good reception then there is no problem
hope that helps
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I ve been with vodafone for the past years at the same address and all other phones get better signal ... however, the main problem is that the Xperia keeps dropping the signal for no reason. to give an exampe ..
Phone lies on my desk with 2 bars reception... when I reach for the phone to write a message or make a phone call, chances are that just by picking it up, e.g. moving it for a couple of inches, the phone will drop the signal .. then I ll have to wait for a minute till it picks it up again - as soon as it does it is back up to 2 bars and I can start making the phone call.
this is however only in areas where the signal is generally weaker e.g. where u would normally not get more than 2 bars anyway (like where I live - although I get full reception on my nokias with the same sim card).
If you are somewhere with good reception then there is no problem
hope that helps
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Yep, I get that as well.
I've been using the HTC One for the last couple of days deciding between it and my Xperia Z.
This phone is the best I've used and IMO feels better than XZ in several ways.
However, the signal strength in low reception areas is very unstable. Compared with the XZ it is poor which I am not happy about it as I was planning to return the XZ and keep this. On XZ I get 3 bars of 4G and it stays that way with no dropped calls. On the HTC it's 1 bar and then switches to 4 bars 3g (on XZ full bars on 3g) then back to 4g. I've had calls drop mid conversation 7 times in 2 days! This is mainly in lower signal areas including indoors.
I have till today to return the XZ but I am honestly not sure what to do. Even the earpiece sound on HTC is better than XZ..hmm..
Do any of you know if HTC are any good with updates regarding signal stability?
If it's something fixable then I'd rather keep the HTC One. Other than this it's a flawless smartphone. So frustrated the signal reception is like this.
Signal seems slightly better than my Galaxy S3
I have great signal with this phone better than my nexus4 & iPhone.
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my signal is so much better than my htc sensation, tested with the same sim card and htc one has 2 bars better constantly.
How many of you people saying "it's better than my..." are talking about 4G signal strength?
Are you guys on 4g too if I may ask?
I'm baffled as too why this is happening when directly compared to the XZ. Maybe it's only in low signal areas.
I've kept it on 3g only and performance is more stable and holding on to signal better. There is no question in my experience that XZ holds on to 4g signal much better.
Haven't decided what to do yet as I much prefer the HTC but the 4g issue is a real shame.
Most probably know this, but just FYI -- often radios will fall back to HSPA from HSPA+ to save juice when no data is being used. This might be in play here.
I couldn't bring myself to return the HTC so will return the Sony.
The other advantages to me could not be over looked especially the processor, speakers, display and sense.
However I really hope the signal on 4g will improve with an update. I'm pretty sure this was addressed with other phones in the past.
This video I saw also show some of the advantages of HTC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqhUGpSd3mc&feature=youtube_gdata_player:
I was using my friends HTC ONE In canada and he'd constantly have service (like 2 bars) as he was on LTE. LTE isn't available in all areas and where we live we get 3 bars of LTE if we're lucky. So all he did was turn LTE off and it was full bars as usual. The amount of bars we had with LTE was for the most part better than my Iphone5 and my other friends samsung galaxy s3.
I don't know about 4g signal but 2g/3g signal is far better than any phone I have ever had, my local tesco express is a killer for reception on every phone I have had except the one x which held up well but had like 2 bars 3 if I was lucky, with my one I get 4 bars and even 5 bars sometimes as I walk around the store and I have had the phone a week now and no signal or gps or wifi problems at all.
I was having connection issues even on 3G/H+ so what ive done is just turn off LTE and just kept it on GSM/WCDMA as i dont even have a 4G LTE plan and that has seemed to fix my issue so it may help other non-LTE users having signal issues.
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I was having connection issues even on 3G/H+ so what ive done is just turn off LTE and just kept it on GSM/WCDMA as i dont even have a 4G LTE plan and that has seemed to fix my issue so it may help other non-LTE users having signal issues.
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Yes you are right with regards to this. As stated earlier I'm keeping the phone but this clearly demonstrates an issue with 4G that needs to be addressed. I tried the demo unit in store again and disabled wifi; same thing with 4G performance.
In poor signal areas I lose reception totally and concerned I have a faulty phone, where as the iphone gets 2bars, I lose it all together on the one. Was in the meeting today and everyone had reception but me, however it sometimes came back with one bar...
If the signal is strong, I have no problems, is where there is weak signal I get issues. Anybody else confirm the same?
Oh sorry I misread. Other reviews have mentioned it is fine with LTE.
I finally made my return but returned the HTC and kept the Sony. Obviously the HTC betters the Sony in some ways but I need reliable call quality.
I don't care what HTC call the antenna but in my experience it does not perform as well as others.
I pay more for LTE and it bothered me to keep losing calls.
To be honest this is mostly in low signal areas but regardless the Sony and the Lumia held on much better to a weak 4g and 3g signal.
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I finally made my return but returned the HTC and kept the Sony. Obviously the HTC betters the Sony in some ways but I need reliable call quality.
I don't care what HTC call the antenna but in my experience it does not perform as well as others.
I pay more for LTE and it bothered me to keep losing calls.
To be honest this is mostly in low signal areas but regardless the Sony and the Lumia held on much better to a weak 4g and 3g signal.
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So is this problem happens when you have 4g. İ bought my fone from uk fones4u so if its same ill have to send it back
cihanleanne said:
So is this problem happens when you have 4g. İ bought my fone from uk fones4u so if its same ill have to send it back
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Yes it's mostly with 4g only and most noticeable with call switching to 3g. I too am with EE and got it from p4u. If you don't make many calls I think it's ok. Honestly though I wouldn't trust it in low signal areas and say you need an urgent email. In my opinion the radio is not the best. Not sure if it's h/w or s/w fault but even when I sowed it to the guys in p4u inside a shopping centre it had the worst signal compared to others (4g). However WiFi is excellent.
You may have an issue with antenna connection to the motherboard as a result of production tolerances. Try to see if you can test another unit to verify that the issue exists.
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I was using my friends HTC ONE In canada and he'd constantly have service (like 2 bars) as he was on LTE. LTE isn't available in all areas and where we live we get 3 bars of LTE if we're lucky. So all he did was turn LTE off and it was full bars as usual. The amount of bars we had with LTE was for the most part better than my Iphone5 and my other friends samsung galaxy s3.
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so you're able to get LTE in canada?
If i can ask you a few question,
1) which area you at?
2) where your friend got HTC one?
3) are you with rogers?
Thanks =)
Just wanted to add that the poor signal reception experienced is with regards to the UK 4G Lte.
This is currently with the EE network which operates the LTE on 1800 MHz.
I have tested it against the Sony Z, Nokia Lumia 920 in the same spot and the reception was inferior and overall poor.
In the store I tested it against a S3 (4g) and iPhone 5 all on the same network and it showed lower reception in 4g.
Please note that the problem is with 4g and functions well on 3g and WiFi is excellent as previously stated.