secondary camera ? - HD2 General

HD2 specification show there is no secondary camera.
i see 2 tiny size bubble located on top left corner of the case, next to speaker on top. are those camera?
i'm sure those are not bubbles. i do not have screen protectors on. no scratch on screen. what are those?

light sensor for the bright of the screen and the proximity sensor to off the screen when you are talking and power on when you ends automatically

HTC could have included the front Secondary camera for 3g calling too.shame.

Who uses Video Calling anyway? I have used it only one time just to test it!

OrionBG said:
Who uses Video Calling anyway? I have used it only one time just to test it!
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Exactly. There's already enough expensive kit squeezed into as small a space as possible. If a feature that 1% uses had to be sacrificed to bring us this beautiful beast, so be it.
Likewise I only used it once - to test it.

the secondary camera was nothing more but a vanity mirror for me. I sure don't miss it.

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Who uses Video Calling anyway?
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Anyone who is deaf and communicates with sign language. But of course, as far as you're concerned, they don't matter, do they?

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Anyone who is deaf and communicates with sign language. But of course, as far as you're concerned, they don't matter, do they?
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When I tested it was too choppy to use for sign language.
I suppose the networks are discriminatary too as they don't have full 3g coverage in all areas. Damn them deaf hating mobile phone operators.
BTW I have a severe hearing problem, I am nearly completely deaf in one ear and the other I have lost hearing bones due to an aggressive tumour, so if 3g calling was that good I could use it for lip reading instead of text when my hearing drops off too bad to hear on the phone.

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Anyone who is deaf and communicates with sign language. But of course, as far as you're concerned, they don't matter, do they?
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Stop putting words into peoples mouths. Of course if I followed your line of logic you are obviously saying that the other 99% of the world don't matter, their devices have to have their designs compromised for the disabled 1%. Why do you hate the oter 99% of people so much you biased hater?
Knowing a few deaf people myself through work, I can tell you that videophones are far from the ideal communication device.

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Ultimate Application??

Is there anyway to use the touch screen as a scale? I mean is there a program that will let you measure the pressure your "finger" incurs on the screen? Now there has to be a way to convert that to grams/ounces. I would imagine that it would take a certain amount to even activate the digitizer and it could very well be the equivalent to a minimum of .5g and that's fine with me. An operating range from .5-5g would be optimal.
I just thought this would be very useful.
i believe that there is a point og g to activate
and thats if
a timer deside when the contex menu come about
normal touch screens even pasive digtizers on tablet pc's
only do on and off registration
active digitizerts on tablets though support preasure measuring
That's your idea of an "ultimate application"? More like the fastest way to break your screen
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That's your idea of an "ultimate application"? More like the fastest way to break your screen
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I believe it to be one of the ultimate applications because it transforms your phone into something completely different silmutaneously increasing it's resourcefulness as a digital "swiss army knife" for the modern world. What other application does that (short of a TV remote)?
Are you familiar with the force of 5 grams? I don't believe you are or you wouldn't think it would break your screen. I guarantee that you put, on average, at least 8 grams of pressure everytime you touch your screen.
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Is there anyway to use the touch screen as a scale? I mean is there a program that will let you measure the pressure your "finger" incurs on the screen? Now there has to be a way to convert that to grams/ounces. I would imagine that it would take a certain amount to even activate the digitizer and it could very well be the equivalent to a minimum of .5g and that's fine with me. An operating range from .5-5g would be optimal.
I just thought this would be very useful.
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Wouldn't all your Coke get stuck at the corners of the screen
haha u read the words outa my mouth ;x that would be gangster tho
Alternatively you could try making some scales into a phone.
Haha, i realize 5g is very light...But as mentioned above the only thing I can think of that would be useful to weigh between .5 and 5g would be some white powdery substance
Otherwise, if I new it was less than 5g, I wouldn't weigh it. Problem is someone might try to weigh something much heavier and yes, break the screen
Or I could replace and reinforce the external GPS antenna cover and make it a bottle opener also.
Or I could program it to emit the proper frequency to start my "keyless" car key.
Anyways, this is all just for fun, so, don't worry, I'm not trying to tweak you.
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Wouldn't all your Coke get stuck at the corners of the screen
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Cocaine is a drug and I don't do drugs. I had something a 'lil more "green" in mind.
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Haha, i realize 5g is very light...But as mentioned above the only thing I can think of that would be useful to weigh between .5 and 5g would be some white powdery substance
Otherwise, if I new it was less than 5g, I wouldn't weigh it. Problem is someone might try to weigh something much heavier and yes, break the screen
Or I could replace and reinforce the external GPS antenna cover and make it a bottle opener also.
Or I could program it to emit the proper frequency to start my "keyless" car key.
Anyways, this is all just for fun, so, don't worry, I'm not trying to tweak you.
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Now you're onto it. The possibilities are endless. I give it another 5 years before we see similar applications. Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston right now is already texting barcodes as boarding passes that can be scanned.
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Cocaine is a drug and I don't do drugs. I had something a 'lil more "green" in mind.
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Oh, oregano! Makes sense with your screen name being Chef
A little more green? Smokin a little herb are we? Or are we selling?
I think we're onto something here. We need better touchscreens that can handle more force.
Imagine the perfect windows mobile diet phone which can tell you how much weight you've put on, find you a diet plan online. And order a pizza when it can tell you don't care anymore.
Who cares about fingertip scrolling when we finally bring the phone into the real world and make it fix other problems too.
I think a built-in stun device would be cool. And a personal alarm. A decent torch. A proper flash camera with a zoom feature. Maybe we make the zoom strong enough and big enough to take a person's weight. Who needs stepladders anymore!
I think a built in printer could help but needs to support full A4 sheets. Maybe it can scroll up and down a page until it's printed. And can we adjust the camera so it can act like a proper scanner? A portable colour photocopier is born!
I'll stop there but as you can see, the possibilities with this magical device are amazing!
LOL
i really think theres no such thing as ultimate application
i really depend on how this application will help your needs and so that way it will be very useful
peace
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A little more green? Smokin a little herb are we? Or are we selling?
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I'm sorry council...I don't recall.
littld said:
I'll stop there but as you can see, the possibilities with this magical device are amazing!
LOL
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It should of course be able to monitor ovulation, blood pressure, heart rate (full ECG), blood oxigen level, blood sugar level, prothrombin ratio and last, not least my need for coffee.
And my next SIP should read my mind. Voice control and T9 are a bit old fashioned, right?
I want a phone that also works as a lightsaber.
if you smoked the "oregano"
all applications you come up with seem ultimate
and all old cake leftovers taste like the best thing in the world
(or so i've been led to believe...)
You are better off getting to know your “oregano” and learn to estimate the weight accurately. Maybe if you would need this for “sugar” or “brown sugar”, weighting something under 5g’s would be in some use.
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I believe it to be one of the ultimate applications because it transforms your phone into something completely different silmutaneously increasing it's resourcefulness as a digital "swiss army knife" for the modern world. What other application does that (short of a TV remote)?
Are you familiar with the force of 5 grams? I don't believe you are or you wouldn't think it would break your screen. I guarantee that you put, on average, at least 8 grams of pressure everytime you touch your screen.
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and why do you need to weigh grams on your phone?

Major design flaws

Placement of power button is really a major design flaw, you need two hands to turn on your phone, this is ridiculous, I can turn on even my lawnmower with one hand. The reset button hidden under battery cover, hey, it's running windows, reset button is one of most important buttons. If I need to remove battery cover I can reset my phone by just removing battery as well. I don't need that button anyway. No camera button, how I'm supposed to take autoportrait? And again you need two hands to take a picture. Volume buttons on side are too big, I press them accidentally all the time so I end up in silent mode and don't hear incoming calls or SMS. What was wrong with sliding volume button on original Touch? Light sensor is great idea, however it doesn't recognize light in my room from pitch black, it has the same value (zero) so I can have minimum backlight and see nothing or I can have medium backlight and blind my eyes when I pickup my phone at midnight. You can't use this cellphone lying on table, because it wobbles because of that that camera protector. I'm talking just about HW issues so far. The are infinite software issues, but software can be tuned. HW will stay like that, HTC Touch HD is just a one huge design fault. I have been using HTC Touch (Elf) before. I have been looking forward to buy this phone since HTC announced it. I didn't expect I will get for my money this piece of ****ing ****. Excuse me.
I know how you feel. you know, I never learn. When the Omnia was announced I bought it. Was disappointed and sent it back. Then.. WOW! the HD looks cool! Bought it for £500! I've just arranged for it to be returned. Quite a disappointment all round really. Design as you say isn't great, its heavy too for its size. Not may apps run on it including TT5. Its no upgrade from the Diamond in my opinion, well not £500s worth.
I put my sim in my diamond again today and thoughthis is better, and looks better. Bye Bye HD. All I need for my diamond is a better battery, £50 done.
Also that paint chipping malarky isn't good is it? Now.. I just need to learn my lessons and stop being such a geek! My Girlfriend told everyone I'd shelled out £500 for a phone. They think i'm 'kin mad! I agree
Not may apps run on it including TT5. ...
C'mon - I doubt even WM5 was out when that was released.
you need two hands to turn on your phone, this is ridiculous...
No it doesn't. i anyway can easily turn it on one-handed.
mcano said:
Placement of power button is really a major design flaw, you need two hands to turn on your phone, this is ridiculous, I can turn on even my lawnmower with one hand.
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Indeed this is an ultimate example of stupidity. Funny how nobody complained about the same thing done by Apple though in Jesus Phone. It's just equally annoying there.
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The reset button hidden under battery cover, hey, it's running windows, reset button is one of most important buttons.
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Couldn't care less where the reset button is, frankly. Unlike you, I'm not a big fan of pressing it, on Windows or not, so don't use it often enough to be bothered.
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No camera button, how I'm supposed to take autoportrait?
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Yes, if you want to delete it right away - this is not a camera, this is an extreme piece of garbage. Maybe HTC device users are used to this I don't know. But I was simply shocked. It's so slow that it's simply impossible to capture anything that moves faster than continents are drifting.
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I didn't expect I will get for my money this piece of ****ing ****. Excuse me.
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Come on, they just don't make good phones, admit it. Any phone has tons of stupidities. There's no other choice but to accept the least of the evils out there. Somehow making excellent things just doesn't seem an attractive business model anymore. It's just so much easier to stick a stupid 3.5mm jack for headphones with no data capability for a remote control (people will buy this no matter it's less convenient in practice than extUSB Audio, if you think about it for a moment), and make a camera with a bigger megapixel count that a competitor has.
But I digress...
No camera button, how I'm supposed to take autoportrait?
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Uhhhh, how about using the front-facing camera, duh....
vangrieg said:
Somehow making excellent things just doesn't seem an attractive business model anymore.
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Camera with bigger mega pixels and ever crappier plastic lens just annoys the hell out of me, but unfortunately they get away with this; because the majority of people are stupid (or ignorant, or whatever.)
Being less harsh..... I suppose in the grand scheme of things all this technology is new, once the expectation & experience of the general public catches up, finally we will see better devices.
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Camera with bigger mega pixels and ever crappier plastic lens just annoys the hell out of me, but unfortunately they get away with this; because the majority of people are stupid (or ignorant, or whatever.)
Being less harsh..... I suppose in the grand scheme of things all this technology is new, once the expectation & experience of the general public catches up, finally we will see better devices.
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Lol! Buying a Touch HD and expecting it to be good enough to replace your regular digi is stupid (or ignorant, or whatever.)
Seems to me that people forget that this is a cell phone first...it's not a digital camera with a phone feature.
yeah there are design flaws as there are for all phones
i have small hands and i can turn it one handed so i'm not sure whats wrong with your hands...
yes the reset button is poorly placed as is the volume rocker and having no dedicated camera button is weird as well.
in saying that the main fetaure of the hd over others is the screen size and display resolution.
there is no 'perfect' device, if there ever was then they'd have no room to make future stuff.
I'm pissed with the poor camera and lack of flash and it really wouldnt surprise me whetehr they release a simialr version within the next 6-12 months with these fetaures. but if they had everything we wnated this time, why would we buy the next model?
Nothing is perfect, every fone gonna have some flaws, because every1 thinks differently, and the phone are made up of only a group of ppl, so there bound to be ppl who think its ****.
So tell me a fone you think that's you think's good, then i'll tell you the "fking ****" out of it?
Major Usage flaws
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Man, I am trying really hard not to laugh ... or curse at you.
Placement of power button is really a major design flaw, you need two hands to turn on your phone, this is ridiculous, I can turn on even my lawnmower with one hand.
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Funny how millions of iphone (same location of power button) users and hundreds of HD users never complained about this problem. may be you need to examine if you are holding the phone correctly. I can turn on the phone with my either hand, my teenage children can turn on the phone with either of their small hands.. my judo coach can turn it on with either of his giant paws. so unless you have 4 fingers on each hand, i am baffled at your complaint.
The reset button hidden under battery cover, hey, it's running windows, reset button is one of most important buttons. If I need to remove battery cover I can reset my phone by just removing battery as well. I don't need that button anyway.
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This is highly depended on what kind of junk you install on your phone, i never had to use my reset button since I got my phone 3 weeks ago.
No camera button, how I'm supposed to take autoportrait? And again you need two hands to take a picture.
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first of all wtf is "autoportrait"? you mean portrait picture? or self-portrait? or auto focus? I haven't heard of one camera that can "autoportrait" a picture for me. Secondly, I take pix on HD with one hand, landscape or portrait. the friends to whom I showed my phone to for the first time snapped pix one-handed. You are like an old grandma who doesn't want to change the way you do stuff because you are used to your thumb being the "holder" and index finger being the "trigger". if you need help, i'll be mroe than happy to take a pic of how me and my friends operate this phone with one hand.
Volume buttons on side are too big, I press them accidentally all the time so I end up in silent mode and don't hear incoming calls or SMS. What was wrong with sliding volume button on original Touch?
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irritating yes, major flaw no! DeviceLock, S2U2, PocketShield, etc etc.. all provide customized lock function that will lock hardware keys. Gosh, since you are so lazy, here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449744
Light sensor is great idea, however it doesn't recognize light in my room from pitch black, it has the same value (zero) so I can have minimum backlight and see nothing or I can have medium backlight and blind my eyes when I pickup my phone at midnight.
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If you are not using any third party software to adjust the light, then yes, the screen tend to be brighter than it should. but it definitely never came to a point in any condition where the backlight is off and i can "see nothing". If you are using a third party software, then it's your own laziness that needs help so you can adjust the software's settings to best suite your enviroment. I use G-Light and it is working wonderfully.
You can't use this cellphone lying on table, because it wobbles because of that that camera protector.
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LOL, I dont even know where to begin for this one. Should I tell you to get a regular home/landline phone because you are using a cell phone on a table? or should I ask why do you care the phone wobbles if you are setting it on the table, because your attention must be somewhere else, and busy doing something else with your two hands in the meanwhile, after all that should be the reason you set the phone down in the first place no? Honestly, if your are doing something else with your two hands, and the phone is on the desk, it just wobbles on it own?!?! Or are you telling us that you get a kick out of setting a cell phone on the table and talk, while poking it with one hand to enjoy or dislike its wobbliness??
I'm talking just about HW issues so far. The are infinite software issues, but software can be tuned. HW will stay like that, HTC Touch HD is just a one huge design fault. I have been using HTC Touch (Elf) before.
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Clearly, with the way you are using your cell phone, there are many other complaints to be logged. I am looking forward for more great laughs.
......this piece of ****ing ****.
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This line is the reason for the tone of my response. if you have a problem or need help adjusting, ask, and we'll help you. if you have something valuable to share, type it down, and we will thank you. Coming here to rant just because you are not doing things right.. well.... thanks for the laugh.. again.
Excuse me.
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You are excused.
I find it perfectly easy to turn the phone off one handed. I haven't had cause to use the reset button yet so who cares where it is. Not to mention that you don't want it in too convenient a location lest it is pressed by accident! The movement of the device while on a flat surface is minimal. Admittedly the fact that the volume buttons don't lock is annoying but something I am sure can be solved with software. The lack of a camera button is a minor irritant although accidentally pushing the button and activating the camera on my Trinity was also slightly irritating.
I would suggest that your list of "Major Flaws" hardly adds up to a minor irritant and if you are so frustrated by such small things then I doubt you are ever content. Nothing is perfect, to expect such is foolish and will only ever end in disappointment...
You can reset the device by taking the back cover off but you can also reset by holding down the power button for a few seconds
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Funny how millions of iphone (same location of power button) users and hundreds of HD users never complained about this problem. may be you need to examine if you are holding the phone correctly. I can turn on the phone with my either hand, my teenage children can turn on the phone with either of their small hands.. my judo coach can turn it on with either of his giant paws. so unless you have 4 fingers on each hand, i am baffled at your complaint.
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They did not complain because they don't know they could have better. Yes I can turn it on with either hand also, but it is very inconvenient. If you think this button is well placed, then you must have both hands left.
buggybug0 said:
This is highly depended on what kind of junk you install on your phone, i never had to use my reset button since I got my phone 3 weeks ago.
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If you are doing experiments you just have to
buggybug0 said:
irritating yes, major flaw no! DeviceLock, S2U2, PocketShield, etc etc.. all provide customized lock function that will lock hardware keys. Gosh, since you are so lazy, here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449744
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Yeah right, if it is not design flaw why should I ever use any third party sw to disable it? If you have to find a way how to deal with it it mean it's flawed, period. Volume button on Elf was just fine no need to bother how to disable it.
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If you are not using any third party software to adjust the light, then yes, the screen tend to be brighter than it should. but it definitely never came to a point in any condition where the backlight is off and i can "see nothing". If you are using a third party software, then it's your own laziness that needs help so you can adjust the software's settings to best suite your enviroment. I use G-Light and it is working wonderfully.
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It has flawed hw, no software will help you, as I said light sensor is not sensitive enough to see difference between normal lighting condition in my room and pitch black, so everything in between is the same. So you cannot set different backlight for normal room and dark night.
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LOL, I dont even know where to begin for this one.
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Just place your phone on table and try to hit [X] button. that's it.
abeery said:
You can reset the device by taking the back cover off but you can also reset by holding down the power button for a few seconds
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power button won't help you in certain situations.
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Yeah right, if it is not design flaw why should I ever use any third party sw to disable it? If you have to find a way how to deal with it it mean it's flawed, period. Volume button on Elf was just fine no need to bother how to disable it.
It has flawed hw, no software will help you, as I said light sensor is not sensitive enough to see difference between normal lighting condition in my room and pitch black, so everything in between is the same. So you cannot set different backlight for normal room and dark night.
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You dont need third party software, a small dll edit sorts it out and some people want to be able to adjust the volume while the device is locked so they can easily change music volume.
The light sensor is suprisingly sensitive. Do as instructed, install G-Light and all your backlight woes will melt away
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You dont need third party software, a small dll edit sorts it out and some people want to be able to adjust the volume while the device is locked so they can easily change music volume.
The light sensor is suprisingly sensitive. Do as instructed, install G-Light and all your backlight woes will melt away
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Light sensor is not sensitive enough, I installed GLight, thats how I found out.
The thing that I dont like with HD is .... current TouchFlo 3D.
HD has 3.8" screen, great 800x480 resolution ... but that TF3D Today screen is just waste of space because it can only display 2 appointments.
To make it worse, I cannot install Today plugin there.
Oh yeah, I can disable and use other Today application like the old HTC Home, SecondToday or SpB Mobile Shell ...
You right, but that's not the point ... HTC should have done it right to incorporate the new hardware ... the big screen with its software, user interface, and such.
Another one, why the contact photo tab could not have "tiled" (arrange to grid) photo arrangement? I hate scrolling just to find the correct contact photo. The contact photo in Manilla is better.
Another one, why the image viewer could not operate in full screen? Yes, I know, the sliding flow animation is nice for showing off .... but to have option for full screen is much better.
So, thanks to current economic crisis, I decided to wait for the next iteration.
gogol said:
The thing that I dont like with HD is .... current TouchFlo 3D.
HD has 3.8" screen, great 800x480 resolution ... but that TF3D Today screen is just waste of space because it can only display 2 appointments.
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as much as we dont like the tf3d, we have to realize, htc gave this to us for free. other companies, charge for such a program, spb mobile shell, etc.
secondly, even you agreeed this is a beautiful phone, so htc did a great job. software wise, ms mobile is bad. even worse, ms didn't open their platform, so htc can't implement this "touch " shell deeper into the OS. given their fortay is in the hardware, and this giiant obstacle, i say they did an admirable job.
as for the appointmments, using advanced config tool, i can seethe appointments of the next two days. give it a try.
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Another one, why the image viewer could not operate in full screen? Yes, I know, the sliding flow animation is nice for showing off .... but to have option for full screen is much better.
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What do you mean by that? Go to Album, see the thumbnails, tap on a picture and voila - you have it in full screen.

Overall thoughts to those that have had time with the phone

Interested to hear the likes and dislikes of the NS from those that have had a little time with it.
I know I am hatting the call quality, poor battery meter and radio reception. Hope its just a matter of getting updates to correct these things.
Love the phone overall aside from some left out givens from the galaxy S line. Would like the phone to replace my Vibrant but the call quality so far is killing it for me. Knowing the phone will be first on the next update seems like a plus but at the cost of a few nice features.
Thoughts?
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Interested to hear the likes and dislikes of the NS from those that have had a little time with it.
I know I am hatting the call quality, poor battery meter and radio reception. Hope its just a matter of getting updates to correct these things.
Love the phone overall aside from some left out givens from the galaxy S line. Would like the phone to replace my Vibrant but the call quality so far is killing it for me. Knowing the phone will be first on the next update seems like a plus but at the cost of a few nice features.
Thoughts?
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I personally have not had any call quality issues, whats it like for you?
Here are my thoughts: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9870794&postcount=108
My only issues:
-Charges somewhat slowly (but it has great battery life)
-Gets hot when you charge it (biggest con for me)
-Maybe it was only because of the large amount of files I was copying, but when I mounted the USB storage it lagged quite a bit.
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Here are my thoughts: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9870794&postcount=108
My only issues:
-Charges somewhat slowly (but it has great battery life)
-Gets hot when you charge it (biggest con for me)
-Maybe it was only because of the large amount of files I was copying, but when I mounted the USB storage it lagged quite a bit.
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Yeah it lagged for me too, only when I was transferring though, safe to assume it was just that. As for the call quality, I find it very good, no complaints here.
Sent from my Nexus S
My only problem would be the touch sensitivity on the left and right side of the phone....when landscape texting my thumb naturally hits the edge of the glass and dosent register =/ the vibrant does register but not the MT4G...
anyone else with this thing??
I think it is AWESOME!
coming from a nexus one
LOVE
4" SAMOLED screen especially outside
speed
TRUE multi touch
seems like it has better building penetration for reception
HATE
no notification light
no 2nd microphone for noise cancellation
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I personally have not had any call quality issues, whats it like for you?
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Calls sound digitized and buzzy. I sound find to the other party but my side sounds too processed. My Vibrant and N1 are clear with no artifacts. Will swap it out when stock is back up and give it a second chance.
Poor reception in my area at the house. AT&T full bars, on T-Mobile, my bars go from full to 0 to 3, it's just weird, I can just sit here and see it move around.
3G not so great here either. Both these issues is with Cell Coverage, so not really phone related.
No Notification Light is still a big annoying. noLED helps a little but that software needs some major tweaking/options for me to completely like it.
Gingerbread 2.3 keyboard: Stock 2.2 you can swipe left to right to engage voice, no such feature in 2.3, and the mic icon (if you want voice) replaces the comma button , if you turn off the mic icon, comma appears, but now you can't engage voice sigh. Bring back swipe for voice please Google.
Screen is incredible. 100x better than Nexus One. Even in daylight. Only complaint is that it's TOO DAMN BRIGHT.... fixed with the app Screen FIlter.
Web browsing zooming in/out is a bit laggy and not as smooth as I'd like.
No issues on call quality to and from.
I like that the power button is on the side. The external speaker is amazing, huge upgrade form the Nexus One. So much louder and fuller.
I'm coming off a CyanogenMod Nexus One, and happy as heck the Nexus S got rooted first day. I've running everything I need/want on the Nexus S right now. No hiccups from switching from Nexus One CM6.1
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My only problem would be the touch sensitivity on the left and right side of the phone....when landscape texting my thumb naturally hits the edge of the glass and dosent register =/ the vibrant does register but not the MT4G...
anyone else with this thing??
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I'm having this same issue lol. I'll adjust though. >.<
Anderdroid said:
I'm having this same issue lol. I'll adjust though. >.<
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same here its not a defect I think lol its just that the keyboard is soooooo low in landscape mode lol
azzeh3 said:
same here its not a defect I think lol its just that the keyboard is soooooo low in landscape mode lol
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I think I'm gonna try haxxing the keyboard and making it higher lol.
Yeah if you work it let me know man pm me or something lol
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slowz3r said:
I personally have not had any call quality issues, whats it like for you?
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Go somewhere noisy. Make a call and the person you are talking to will be lucky to hear half of what you say. The NS is absolutely amazing at picking up every noise but the ones coming from your mouth.
I've had no issues with mine at all. This phone has been pure winfor me!
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Go somewhere noisy. Make a call and the person you are talking to will be lucky to hear half of what you say. The NS is absolutely amazing at picking up every noise but the ones coming from your mouth.
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My dad is on his second NS. Everything he moves (walks or driving) while on a call the person on the other end will start hearing the call being choppy.
So far, my phone has been great.
I only have two complaints about the Nexus S:
- I wish they had used some kind of text coating on the casing to give it a bit of extra grip. The phone, when I first handled it, was really slick.
- There's the ever so slight separation between the glass and casing at the edges that can, will, and does attract dust/dirt/whatevs.
And just one general rant: Stop rearranging the god damn capacitive buttons. Pick an order and stick with it. Google/the OEMs can change the pictures or icons if you like, but please pick an order. It's not fun to relearn a phones buttons every time you get a new one.
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And just one general rant: Stop rearranging the god damn capacitive buttons. Pick an order and stick with it. Google/the OEMs can change the pictures or icons if you like, but please pick an order. It's not fun to relearn a phones buttons every time you get a new one.
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They just want to keep your mind sharp hahahahaha
azzeh3 said:
They just want to keep your mind sharp hahahahaha
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I know it's a relatively minor complaint and I adjust quickly but still. Lol.
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I know it's a relatively minor complaint and I adjust quickly but still. Lol.
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It might seem minor, but it really drives people up the wall. My girlfriend decided against upgrading from her N1 to the NS solely because "What? They changed the key layout? Why would they do that?" And she is no dummy, (PHD in organic chem) she could easily adapt in a day or two. But ppeople really value consistency. The proper button order should be part of the Android specs and not left up to the whims of every 2 bit company using Android.

Misinterpreting Google Glass?

Hey everyone, I just wanted to post this because I think the majority of people are misinterpreting how Glass is going to be used.
Recently, there have been a lot of reviews of what we've seen from Glad so far, and it looks like it won't be app driven at all. Instead, there will be cards for each command we give it, and if companies want to add integration for glass, they have to create a card interaction that Google can recognize.
What this means is that, while there's a TON we could do with Glass, it's not going to be something we're watching all the time as we're walking down the street, or sitting on the couch. It's built as a reference tool, just like Google.
I imagine it more as Google Now, but without the phone. Simply, say "OK Glass" and ask your question or say your voice command.
I am only writing this because people keep taking about the risk associated with having a screen always feeding us data and becoming a distraction. To me, it looks like the screen is just there to give us a visual confirmation that it's dying what we tell it, and to give us am idea of how a picture came out or video angles, etc.
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phishfi said:
Hey everyone, I just wanted to post this because I think the majority of people are misinterpreting how Glass is going to be used.
Recently, there have been a lot of reviews of what we've seen from Glad so far, and it looks like it won't be app driven at all. Instead, there will be cards for each command we give it, and if companies want to add integration for glass, they have to create a card interaction that Google can recognize.
What this means is that, while there's a TON we could do with Glass, it's not going to be something we're watching all the time as we're walking down the street, or sitting on the couch. It's built as a reference tool, just like Google.
I imagine it more as Google Now, but without the phone. Simply, say "OK Glass" and ask your question or say your voice command.
I am only writing this because people keep taking about the risk associated with having a screen always feeding us data and becoming a distraction. To me, it looks like the screen is just there to give us a visual confirmation that it's dying what we tell it, and to give us am idea of how a picture came out or video angles, etc.
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It is running a custom version of android, and will be open to third party modification. Google glass', like android smart phones, potential is only limited by the creativity of our best developers.
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I have also read many misinterpretations of how glass will look. Some people still think it is a full vision heads up display From what i have seen from developers on youtube, the reflective projector that Glass uses cuts off after a predefined amount of seconds in order to conserve battery power...seeing as it only has the potential to last a single day (which is good) taking into consideration you aren't recording video and taking picture after picture. In order to bring the screen back up, one would simple swipe/touch the panel on the side of Glass. Hope this helps :/
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I have also read many misinterpretations of how glass will look. Some people still think it is a full vision heads up display From what i have seen from developers on youtube, the reflective projector that Glass uses cuts off after a predefined amount of seconds in order to conserve battery power...seeing as it only has the potential to last a single day (which is good) taking into consideration you aren't recording video and taking picture after picture. In order to bring the screen back up, one would simple swipe/touch the panel on the side of Glass. Hope this helps :/
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If you want to use it as an always on HUD and/or recording device you'd have to get an external battery pack and keep it plugged in.
RawBrokerage said:
I have also read many misinterpretations of how glass will look. Some people still think it is a full vision heads up display From what i have seen from developers on youtube, the reflective projector that Glass uses cuts off after a predefined amount of seconds in order to conserve battery power...seeing as it only has the potential to last a single day (which is good) taking into consideration you aren't recording video and taking picture after picture. In order to bring the screen back up, one would simple swipe/touch the panel on the side of Glass. Hope this helps :/
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Exactly! I'm sure that using the map features or even filming a couple roller coaster rides would end up dropping you down to empty in a hurry. Either way, it is definitely not going to be a full blown phone replacement. It's just a quick reference resource kind of thing!
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If you want to use it as an always on HUD and/or recording device you'd have to get an external battery pack and keep it plugged in.
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I'd get a baseball cap battery for it!
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I think that misinterpretation of Glass is coming from multiple sides.
On one hand, there are people who think that it's going to be a HUD. (I wish. Maybe a future version will be, based on the most recently uncovered patent filings related to full-lens display.)
Other expect that it will be always on.
And the seemingly vast majority of the people covering Glass for the news and/or vocally lambasting it think that taking pictures and videos is the main/only feature. While it's nice that Glass might be able to fill the same need as the Looxcie, I think that this is a nice-to-have rather than the Glass' killer app.
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I think that misinterpretation of Glass is coming from multiple sides.
On one hand, there are people who think that it's going to be a HUD. (I wish. Maybe a future version will be, based on the most recently uncovered patent filings related to full-lens display.)
Other expect that it will be always on.
And the seemingly vast majority of the people covering Glass for the news and/or vocally lambasting it think that taking pictures and videos is the main/only feature. While it's nice that Glass might be able to fill the same need as the Looxcie, I think that this is a nice-to-have rather than the Glass' killer app.
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Good point! I think the picture/video aspect is a great selling point, but the big grab should be the quick response features included in Google now. For example, asking Google now how old Jason Bateman is comes back with an almost instant reply saying his age (44), and his birthday (sometime in 1969).
I think that quick info questions like that, fast communications (texts or their equivalent), and longer term resources (reminders for something you need at the grocery store, maps, or a touristy "what's that" function for recognizing places or translating text on signs). There's a lot of cool features, but the only way they're gonna work with a battery that small is if it's very little activity through the device. I use the term quick reference because it's the most sensible way to make it work, to me.
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Yeah. The ability to receive notification, directions, and many other types of information without taking my phone out is, IMHO, the killer app.
I am a huge fan of Looxcie. I love the idea of a continuing recording buffer of video, and the ability to tap one button to save the last 30 seconds. There are so many little moments that I have witnessed over the years that I wish that I could have saved. I would be thrilled if Google included this functionality. (Though I assume we won't see it until battery tech gets even better, as at the moment I assume it would kill the battery. Witness the Looxcie, which has no display and only lasts about four hours.)
That's not the point of Glass, though. If it was, they wouldn't have included the prism display. They would probably have just released something like the Looxcie, and let it attach to your glasses.
So when I see people posting pics of the SpyGear kids toys with camera glasses, laughing that "Google got scooped!", it makes me sigh.
On the topic of battery life, I believe that there are some pretty ingenious fixes for battery life. What comes to mind first is WiFi charging. Whether or not all the components could fit inside the glasses is another issue, but it's still a possible solution.
Possibly the most hilarious misinterpretation of glass is being able to watch Netflix. That's a definite no.
Also I'm going to come out and say that I'm almost positive that Google Keep was created for Glass. If you think about it, it's an unusually simplified interface consisting of simple notes in a card interface. The interface is perfect for Glass.
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SacTappingUni said:
On the topic of battery life, I believe that there are some pretty ingenious fixes for battery life. What comes to mind first is WiFi charging. Whether or not all the components could fit inside the glasses is another issue, but it's still a possible solution.
Possibly the most hilarious misinterpretation of glass is being able to watch Netflix. That's a definite no.
Also I'm going to come out and say that I'm almost positive that Google Keep was created for Glass. If you think about it, it's an unusually simplified interface consisting of simple notes in a card interface. The interface is perfect for Glass.
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There's no way WiFi charging is going to come around for at least a few iterations. Probably not for years.
As for passive charging, they could finally start putting a piezoelectric system in place (charging via motion).
The Google Keep comment I'd genius really... Imagine making a checklist for all the groceries you need, and then having them up as you're getting everything. You can check items off on your list by saying something (like "check item 3), or using the touch interface on the side.
In fact, what if it starts recognizing all of the isles (from your continuous use of similar grocery items on Google keep and it recognizing when you check things of and taking a picture or recording whatever it can to pick up your location in the store.) That would make it so it reminds you of the things you need when you enter that isle, or taking care of checking your list off as you pick the things up (making Google Goggles more elaborate in the process).
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SmartSwitch fact i never knew about. TIL smartswitch uses ultrasound to connect

So... I found this out by mistake.
Check out the video.
You will have to turn up the sound in the video since its just a humming sound. Sounds like capacitors charging.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEQx9Zjo7_0
I'm pretty sure that the note is not supposed to make that sound.
Wow pretty scary especially when you're in a loud place
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Wow pretty scary especially when you're in a loud place
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The thing is is really not supposed to make any noise. From close it sounds like a microwave
It's the speaker making noise. I can confirm mine does the same thing
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It's the speaker making noise. I can confirm mine does the same thing
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doesn't sound like the speaker.
Don't hold it to close to your face. If it's a short or a battery problem you don't wanna be close to it if it blows or catches on fire
Sounds like it to me. Coming from the speaker on my unit.
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Root-Maniac said:
Sounds like it to me. Coming from the speaker on my unit.
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Still... I don't understand why or makes nose
apatcas said:
Still... I don't understand why or makes nose
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+1. It shouldn't do that...
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I'm going to see if it sounds louder or does anything starting this and charging the phone.
Wish me luck...:fingers-crossed:
I guess none of you have used Smart Switch before? It's something I used on the daily working at T-Mobile to transfer data on customers' phones. The noise you're hearing IS coming from the speaker, it's an ultra-sonic noise emitted that the receiving phone that would be running Smart Switch, would pick up with its microphone and use it as a means of pairing. Think of it like the new Google Nearby API... If you ever play with a Nexus running Nougat, you'll have a similar experience transferring accounts and app install lists. It used to be an NFC pairing, now using the Nearby API it scans wifi, Bluetooth, and ultra-sonic pairing noises are probably also possible using it.
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I guess none of you have used Smart Switch before? It's something I used on the daily working at T-Mobile to transfer data on customers' phones. The noise you're hearing IS coming from the speaker, it's an ultra-sonic noise emitted that the receiving phone that would be running Smart Switch, would pick up with its microphone and use it as a means of pairing. Think of it like the new Google Nearby API... If you ever play with a Nexus running Nougat, you'll have a similar experience transferring accounts and app install lists. It used to be an NFC pairing, now using the Nearby API it scans wifi, Bluetooth, and ultra-sonic pairing noises are probably also possible using it.
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Never thought of that. I guess i never expected it to be that loud.
apatcas said:
Never thought of that. I guess i never expected it to be that loud.
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Welcome to Samsung's newest speaker in the Note 7 lol. It may not have much oomph, but clarity and loudness are high on the list.
flamingblue8z said:
Welcome to Samsung's newest speaker in the Note 7 lol. It may not have much oomph, but clarity and loudness are high on the list.
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Yeah... still my phone gets hot and i still have a perfectly working note 5. I think I might just go back to that. Started SmartSwitch on that and can a very fain noise, not even comparable with the note 7.
TL;DR: It's fine, no one has a malfunctioning speaker in their Note 5 or Note 7.
Grab another device or 2, non-Samsung, and try Smart Switch to hear how each device's speaker is audibly different. Don't worry. It's by design for both phones. It's the limitations of the N5 speaker that prevent such a wide dynamic range to be reproduced. The speaker on the 7 has to also be water resistant. You ever hear any phone inside a Lifeproof case? The biggest complaint I hear is that it muffles the sound. Samsung didn't want that compromise the speaker experience when they went for their resistance rating. Just wanted to try and tamper down the hatred on an otherwise beautiful (if pricey) device. The battery fiasco sucks for them right now. No need to go all TMZ and try and put salt in their wounds by causing mass hysteria. Even the few other replies in this post could be quickly read and someone flies off the handle and goes to the nearest store.
#TheMoreYouKnow
For those who DO care about the retail aspect of this recall, this is going to be a VERY rough time for T-Mobile Reps, they're put under a TON of pressure to hit sales goals, and if they spend too much time doing customer service, their numbers suffer and they lose their jobs. Trust me, I know, I worked just shy of 2 years at a corporate kiosk in a mall that's probably going to be closed before the holidays. It was already a losing battle trying to hit goals, doing exceptional customer service to promote "Brand Loyalty" in yourself as a sales rep was a recipe for not even hitting 50% during the month of December.
#FirstHandExperience
#LegereTakeMeBack
First joke I've cracked in 9 years on this site haha.
flamingblue8z said:
TL;DR: It's fine, no one has a malfunctioning speaker in their Note 5 or Note 7.
Grab another device or 2, non-Samsung, and try Smart Switch to hear how each device's speaker is audibly different. Don't worry. It's by design for both phones. It's the limitations of the N5 speaker that prevent such a wide dynamic range to be reproduced. The speaker on the 7 has to also be water resistant. You ever hear any phone inside a Lifeproof case? The biggest complaint I hear is that it muffles the sound. Samsung didn't want that compromise the speaker experience when they went for their resistance rating. Just wanted to try and tamper down the hatred on an otherwise beautiful (if pricey) device. The battery fiasco sucks for them right now. No need to go all TMZ and try and put salt in their wounds by causing mass hysteria. Even the few other replies in this post could be quickly read and someone flies off the handle and goes to the nearest store.
#TheMoreYouKnow
For those who DO care about the retail aspect of this recall, this is going to be a VERY rough time for T-Mobile Reps, they're put under a TON of pressure to hit sales goals, and if they spend too much time doing customer service, their numbers suffer and they lose their jobs. Trust me, I know, I worked just shy of 2 years at a corporate kiosk in a mall that's probably going to be closed before the holidays. It was already a losing battle trying to hit goals, doing exceptional customer service to promote "Brand Loyalty" in yourself as a sales rep was a recipe for not even hitting 50% during the month of December.
#FirstHandExperience
#LegereTakeMeBack
First joke I've cracked in 9 years on this site haha.
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I edited the title so it doesnt look like im trying to hurt Samsung.
apatcas said:
doesn't sound like the speaker.
Don't hold it to close to your face. If it's a short or a battery problem you don't wanna be close to it if it blows or catches on fire
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If it explodes, you're holding it wrong..
Wrong advice, here's a list of what should happen.
1) Find a lucky coin.
2) Change your name to Harvey Dent
3) Hold Note 7 close to your face until it explodes
4) Fight Batman
slaapliedje said:
If it explodes, you're holding it wrong..
Wrong advice, here's a list of what should happen.
1) Find a lucky coin.
2) Change your name to Harvey Dent
3) Hold Note 7 close to your face until it explodes
4) Fight Batman
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Extremely good and useful advice. Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule to write this

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