Micro SDHC for HD2 query. - HD2 General

Hi all,
Well in preparation for getting my HD2 from o2 in a couple of weeks i was going to order a micro sd for it. Now im no expert when it comes to memory cards and i know theres different classes. I heard class 6 is the fastest but in all honestly would i notice a big difference between a class 2 and a class 6 card?
Ideally i want a 16GB class 6 card but most sites ive been on either dont list class 6 or basically dont state what class it is.
Any advice on best online retailer to get these cards from? Am i best getting a decent brand like sandisk or Kingston?

Of those options I'd get a Sandisk one, they don't have a Class 6 yet, but its probably worth getting one of their Class 4 ones. I have one that I'm using in my current phone.
A-Data have Class 6 ones, I got one to use in my HD2 (fingers crossed collecting it today or tomorrow at the outside), so I can feedback on how that it is soon.

I buy a 16gb class 6 from Adata
It works fine, 8mb/s on writing.

Ok thanks for the info guys! Much appreciated. Is Adata a reliable brand? I only ask as ive never heard of them!

I hadn't heard of them until earlier this year either. Most reports from people I know with them are positive, thats why I thought I'd try one out this time around.

Cheap 4GB SDHC
Have a few SDHC in stock, 4GB with SD Adapter.
They are new from Taiwan, All checked and none fake.
Look here: http://www.karlshardware.co.uk/microsd.JPG
Come with 1 of either adapter
£7.61 each including delivery
£26.50 x 5 including delivery
George

addyb said:
Is Adata a reliable brand?
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As said, A-DATA is based in Taiwan and makes memory and flash modules. I work with RIDATA, another corporation based in Taiwan that does pretty much the same thing (the competition for this market in there is fierce!).
Here is the A-DATA SDHC.
A-DATA in Taiwan is kind of like Transcend. You don't have to go out of your way to find stuff from the company, but cause they usually sell hardware through other vendors it does not really get much publicity.

btyeh said:
As said, A-DATA is based in Taiwan and makes memory and flash modules. I work with RIDATA, another corporation based in Taiwan that does pretty much the same thing (the competition for this market in there is fierce!).
Here is the A-DATA SDHC.
A-DATA in Taiwan is kind of like Transcend. You don't have to go out of your way to find stuff from the company, but cause they usually sell hardware through other vendors it does not really get much publicity.
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Thanks for the heads up!
So what kind of price am i looking at for a 16gb a-data class 6 card? Around £50?

addyb said:
So what kind of price am i looking at for a 16gb a-data class 6 card? Around £50?
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They cost around $2000 - $3000 Taiwan dollars, which is roughly £50 - £60. Probably expect to pay abit more anywhere outside of Taiwan or Japan though, don't know why as soon as they leave the shores of these two places the price doubles (if you know what I mean).
There are a few 32GB cards floating around somewhere, trying to get my hands on that..

Good god, I've been waiting for 32GB cards forever, really hoping to see them this side of 2010...

oh I didnt realise about the different class thing and have bought one of these which are class 2... Will it be ok for the HTC? (not got the phone yet lol)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120486081506&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Class 6
I will be waiting for a 32G class 6.
I already have a 16 class 4.
Ridata are good quality and value.

Phill_1981 said:
oh I didnt realise about the different class thing and have bought one of these which are class 2... Will it be ok for the HTC? (not got the phone yet lol)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120486081506&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
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Class 2 will work fine, just slower transfer and read speeds, I had a Class 2 in my Xperia and it was just fine. Haven't read reports of it making a difference on the device, although for high bitrate video it will possibly be the rate limiting step...

NZtechfreak said:
Class 2 will work fine, just slower transfer and read speeds, I had a Class 2 in my Xperia and it was just fine. Haven't read reports of it making a difference on the device, although for high bitrate video it will possibly be the rate limiting step...
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ah, thanks for the reply, maybe I'll put it back on eBay and do a bit more research for a faster card

16Gb micro SDHC
49,49$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...83245&cm_re=micro_sdhc-_-20-183-245-_-Product
56,99$ (free shipping)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...211380&cm_re=sdhc_16gb-_-20-211-380-_-Product
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There are a few 32GB cards floating around somewhere, trying to get my hands on that..
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I want to see a direct link before I believe that they are floating around

addyb said:
Well in preparation for getting my HD2 from o2 in a couple of weeks i was going to order a micro sd for it. Now im no expert when it comes to memory cards and i know theres different classes. I heard class 6 is the fastest but in all honestly would i notice a big difference between a class 2 and a class 6 card?
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There is absolutely no difference whatever between the different classes so long as the card is in the phone - any card can be accessed fast enough that it is the phone which sets the limit on performance rather than the card. Where the class can become significant is if you take the card out of the phone and plug it into some sort of external card reader attached to a desktop PC. If you do that then you can transfer files faster from the PC to the card. If performance in this situation is important, then it may be worth going for a card from a decent manufacturer - Sandisk is a popular choice.
Note that the class of the card refers only to write performance, not read performance, and it's the minimum specification that the card needs to pass, so it's not necessarily an indicator of the actual performance. To be class 2, a card must support a write speed of at least 2MB/s (class 4, 4MB/s, and so on). But a "class 2" card from Sandisk will probably support write speeds of >6MB/s, and may even outperform a no-name card that's labelled as "class 6".
Also beware of cheap memory cards, especially on eBay - many of them are counterfeit. Unfortunately this doesn't usually become obvious until after you've put some data on it and tried to read it back and found that it's corrupt.
See http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/ - they have a utility you can use to test if a card is counterfeit or not.

Shasarak said:
... But a "class 2" card from Sandisk will probably support write speeds of >6MB/s, and may even outperform a no-name card that's labelled as "class 6".
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That's what happens with my class 2 Sandisk. It even went up to around 8MB/s IIRC.

niknik76 said:
16Gb micro SDHC
49,49$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...83245&cm_re=micro_sdhc-_-20-183-245-_-Product
56,99$ (free shipping)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...211380&cm_re=sdhc_16gb-_-20-211-380-_-Product
I want to see a direct link before I believe that they are floating around
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http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-32GB-MICRO-...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item2ea90456ff

niknik76 said:
I want to see a direct link before I believe that they are floating around
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My co-worker in Yodobashi (デイリーモーション), Akihabara (秋葉原電気街), Tokyo says he's seen a handful of 32GB cards in there. By handful he means like 1 in every 20 shops would have it, and only like 1 or 2 in stock. I think those were the pre-release batches. They carry an insane price tag too. When I go at the end of the year I too will look around for those mythical floating cards! None available in Taiwan per-se. If I get it I will post images of its total awesomeness!
Here is a site claiming you can pre-order the 32GB microSD.
An announcement that Sandisk will release a 32GB card, posted around Febuary 2009.
And this should solve all your storage needs, ever:
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lol

Our Price: £5.00 (£4.35 excl VAT)
wtf?

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Does the Magician support 8Gb memory?

I searched the forum but couldn´t find the answer. I recall that I some time ago read that the Magician supported 4Gb memory card, but i'm not sure.
Does anyone know if the Magician supports 8Gb SD memory? My friend is in Singapore right now and wondering if I would like a 4Gb or a 8Gb card.
Best regards
Anders
never see that big cards in Europe bevore! (i know it's nog in europe)
dunno if the HTC it supports (i only know that it supports 2, 3 GB cards)
det är min vanliga tur!
those exist already? i have only heard of 2 or 3gb as well.
i doubt anyone had a 4gb or 8gb on the magician yet though
JwY said:
those exist already? i have only heard of 2 or 3gb as well.
i doubt anyone had a 4gb or 8gb on the magician yet though
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Yes. They exist - but not in Sweden (or the rest of Europe or USA, i think). My friend e-mailed me yesterday. He bought a 8Gb SD card for himself.
I called Qtek support in Sweden today. He said that the S100 (Magician) supported 4Gb memory because of the limitations of Windows... He didn´t know about the 8Gb memory cards and neither if they worked at all together with the Magician.
// Anders
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JwY said:
those exist already? i have only heard of 2 or 3gb as well.
i doubt anyone had a 4gb or 8gb on the magician yet though
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Yes. They exist - but not in Sweden (or the rest of Europe or USA, i think). My friend e-mailed me yesterday. He bought a 8Gb SD card for himself.
I called Qtek support in Sweden today. He said that the S100 (Magician) supported 4Gb memory because of the limitations of Windows... He didn´t know about the 8Gb memory cards and neither if they worked at all together with the Magician.
// Anders
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Anders,
Can you please provide a link as to where you have seen a 8GB SD Card as well as the 4GB Models, i know sandisk are working on versions for SD but are not in mass production. There are 8GB CF cards but not SD cards.
I have no link yet. My friend is in Singapore and he's going to buy a memory for me in a store there. I don't think this memory can be bought over the internet... yet. I havn't found it anyway.
I'll post a message as soon I know more!
// Anders
8GB is currently only in CF and not in SD.
also not on mobile-review.com :?
don't think it's the right 'card'
sunish said:
8GB is currently only in CF and not in SD.
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I am positive about the 8Gb SD card. It exists... along with 32 Gb CF cards... but not in Europe...
// Anders
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I am positive about the 8Gb SD card. It exists... along with 32 Gb CF cards... but not in Europe...
// Anders
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Nope - Sandisk don't plan to ship an 8GB SD card till next year.
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Anders Johnsson said:
I am positive about the 8Gb SD card. It exists... along with 32 Gb CF cards... but not in Europe...
// Anders
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Nope - Sandisk don't plan to ship an 8GB SD card till next year.
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I guess you all know that 8Gb = 1GB?
arfster said:
Anders Johnsson said:
I am positive about the 8Gb SD card. It exists... along with 32 Gb CF cards... but not in Europe...
// Anders
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Nope - Sandisk don't plan to ship an 8GB SD card till next year.
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As you may know: Sandisk is not the only manufacturer of SD cards. Like saying: there is no such thing as a mini van, because Volvo doesn't plan to ship one until next year..."
// Anderfs
bamse said:
arfster said:
Anders Johnsson said:
I am positive about the 8Gb SD card. It exists... along with 32 Gb CF cards... but not in Europe...
// Anders
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Nope - Sandisk don't plan to ship an 8GB SD card till next year.
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I guess you all know that 8Gb = 1GB?
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Sorry for not thinking about writing upper case letters instead of lower case... Of course i'm not talking about Gigabits! As you may know gigabit is mainly reffered to when talking about network connections. Sorry for not writing GB... but I thought all of you understood that I meant GIGABYTES... not GIGABITS!
// Anders
Of course there are other manufacturers - however Sandisk are the furthest advanced.
As I said, there is no 8GB card, and won't be for at least a year. Feel free to prove me wrong.
there aint no 8gb sd card in singapore right now.. just visited most of the memory stores ... the biggest i've found is 1gb. thats all.
and btw, i think after copying 8gb of data, u will likely left 10% power ...
8gb sd is (still) not in singapore ...
almondking said:
there aint no 8gb sd card in singapore right now.. just visited most of the memory stores ... the biggest i've found is 1gb. thats all.
and btw, i think after copying 8gb of data, u will likely left 10% power ...
8gb sd is (still) not in singapore ...
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if you found the 1 GB the biggest then you search not good at all, offcourse there's a 2 GB cards maybe some 3 but not only 1 !
arfster said:
Anders Johnsson said:
I am positive about the 8Gb SD card. It exists... along with 32 Gb CF cards... but not in Europe...
// Anders
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Nope - Sandisk don't plan to ship an 8GB SD card till next year.
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Hi Anders,, Do you get the 4GB cards cheep? is it possible that you can take home more than one and i can buy one from you?
//Jörgen
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Edit: This seems to be only MMC and RS-MMC?
As far as i know, there are no 3 GB cards available (throughout the world, they sell them globally). 2 GB cards are available for some time (1 or 2 months). MMCs were available a bit earlier I think. The Ultra cards from Sandisk are announced for a long time but I haven't got my order yet (at Amazon for about half a year now). To warn you: They announce a lot (the Sandisk Ultra: November last year!) but they can't produce them.
By the way: They won't ever produce 3 GB cards I guess. Usually they double the capacity step by step (2, 4, 8, 16 etc).
So, sorry to bring you back to earth, but there are no 4 or 8 GB SD-Cards available at the moment.
hmm that's right you can't upgrade the cards the whole time, but maybe they do the same thing Sony does or like the WiFi + 256MB card of SD...only Sandisk has to do it in small cards
even... i don't think that the cards are available this year maybe 2006 or '07 :?

I'm looking for a Sandisk 8GB MicroSDHC Class4. Any Idea where?

At the moment I'm using a Kingston 8GB MicroSDHC Class 4 and let me tell you; IT SUCKS.
The speed it horrible comparing to my Sandisk 2GB Class 2.
Therefore I would like to get a Sandisk instead. They are pretty cheap these days online. Amazon is selling a Sandisk 8GB class4 for only $16 + shipping. However I'm from Canada, shipping is a monster. On Ebay, most of them are fake and not even Class 4. So do you guys have any suggestion for me on where to buy a "Real" Sandisk 8GB class 4? (well, no need to be Real, as long as it's fast)
I'm not sure about the sandisk class 4 I would try perhaps Amazon.com on that. But as for Micro SDHC cards go this is by far the best card for the price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208453 Just in case you are wondering it is a class 6 and I have this card personally and can verify that it operates at the class 6 specs.
Edit: Here is a link for sandisk 8gb cards http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_g...s&field-keywords=8gb+micro+sd+sandisk&x=0&y=0
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I'm not sure about the sandisk class 4 I would try perhaps Amazon.com on that. But as for Micro SDHC cards go this is by far the best card for the price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208453 Just in case you are wondering it is a class 6 and I have this card personally and can verify that it operates at the class 6 specs.
Edit: Here is a link for sandisk 8gb cards http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_g...s&field-keywords=8gb+micro+sd+sandisk&x=0&y=0
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Amazon.com and newegg.com doesn't ship microsd card to Canada.
As stupid as it sounds, newegg.ca doesn't have any 8GB microSD other than from A-Data... and I had really bad experience with that company.
That's strange that they won't ship them to Canada, but anyways I have used A-DATA for many years now and I have never had a bad experience possibly you just happend to get a bad product which unfortunately happens sometimes. I suggest A-DATA to lots of people and trust them myself so it might not hurt to try them again. Just my thoughts (man I feel like an A-DATA spokesperson LOL)
Edit: Just checked newegg.ca and found http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208453 which is the exact card I recommended.
lost_reaver said:
That's strange that they won't ship them to Canada, but anyways I have used A-DATA for many years now and I have never had a bad experience possibly you just happend to get a bad product which unfortunately happens sometimes. I suggest A-DATA to lots of people and trust them myself so it might not hurt to try them again. Just my thoughts (man I feel like an A-DATA spokesperson LOL)
Edit: Just checked newegg.ca and found http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208453 which is the exact card I recommended.
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Have you ever use Transcend card?
it's the first time I heard of it... are they good?
Yes I as previously stated I have that exact card and have been very happy with it. I also have 4GB of their ram in the very computer I am typing this with. For more info on them check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcend and make note of the quote "On September 2008, IDC India reported that Transcend ranked number 1 in sales of flash memory products, including USB flash drives and flash cards, in 2007, beating Kingston and SanDisk[2]."
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Yes I as previously stated I have that exact card and have been very happy with it. I also have 4GB of their ram in the very computer I am typing this with. For more info on them check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcend and make note of the quote "On September 2008, IDC India reported that Transcend ranked number 1 in sales of flash memory products, including USB flash drives and flash cards, in 2007, beating Kingston and SanDisk[2]."
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Hey, if you have the same card, can you do me a favor and time how fast can a Class card transfer 1gb file?
This is insane... their shipping rate is $13 and Handling $3
I get about 6MBs write and between 9-10MBs read I just wrote a 1GB dummy file to it and about 3.5-4 mins. But that was with a card reader that support class 6 cards so results may vary on that expect them to be lower in the phone through usb. The test was performed with Roadkil.net Unstoppable Copier http://roadkil.net/program.php?ProgramID=29
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I get about 6MBs write and between 9-10MBs read I just wrote a 1GB dummy file to it and about 3.5-4 mins. But that was with a card reader that support class 6 cards so results may vary on that expect them to be lower in the phone through usb.
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My Kingston 8Gb Class 4 take about 4min to transfer 1GB as well. I find it slow. When I did a benchmark using PocketMechanics, the write speed is only 2MBs. That's why i'm returning it. Now that you're telling me it take you 3.5-4mins, I think my card is not that bad, then.
When you said 6MBs write, how did you test it?
lost_reaver said:
I get about 6MBs write and between 9-10MBs read I just wrote a 1GB dummy file to it and about 3.5-4 mins. But that was with a card reader that support class 6 cards so results may vary on that expect them to be lower in the phone through usb. The test was performed with Roadkil.net Unstoppable Copier http://roadkil.net/program.php?ProgramID=29
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The program I tested it with is listed there and I just took the averages sometimes it is higher very rarely is it any lower.
find a friend who works at futureshop or bestbuy and get them to buy you one. their employee's discount is sick.
Or, if you're in vancouver, check http://www.ncix.com. they sometimes have good deals. best of all, staples are sometimes willing to pricematch/beat them
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The program I tested it with is listed there and I just took the averages sometimes it is higher very rarely is it any lower.
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Thanks... it's a cool program. Transfer Rate is 3.62MB/s
I guess, I will return my Kingston and will buy that card. Hopefully it will go faster
I'm using this one guys, SanDisk 8GB ULTRA Micro SD (SDHC) Card - Class 6 + USB Reader and mind you it's really flying. Good news is, FREE shipping worldwide.
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDHC/SanDisk/SanDisk-8GB-ULTRA-Micro-SD-%28SDHC%29-Card---Class-6-%2B-USB-Reader
reyjabs said:
I'm using this one guys, SanDisk 8GB ULTRA Micro SD (SDHC) Card - Class 6 + USB Reader and mind you it's really flying. Good news is, FREE shipping worldwide.
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDHC/SanDisk/SanDisk-8GB-ULTRA-Micro-SD-%28SDHC%29-Card---Class-6-%2B-USB-Reader
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£20.99 ~ $30USD, not bad at all... and on top of that, I love sandisk memory
Can you use the same program mentioned above and test a 1GB file to see how fast it can transfer?
Thanks buddy
baboola said:
find a friend who works at futureshop or bestbuy and get them to buy you one. their employee's discount is sick.
Or, if you're in vancouver, check http://www.ncix.com. they sometimes have good deals. best of all, staples are sometimes willing to pricematch/beat them
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I have plenty of friends working in Futureshop... but their cards are insanely expensive... we are talking about $60 for a class 2
reyjabs said:
I'm using this one guys, SanDisk 8GB ULTRA Micro SD (SDHC) Card - Class 6 + USB Reader and mind you it's really flying. Good news is, FREE shipping worldwide.
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDHC/SanDisk/SanDisk-8GB-ULTRA-Micro-SD-%28SDHC%29-Card---Class-6-%2B-USB-Reader
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Thanks to you, now I don't know which one I should buy. The Sandisk for 21GBP or Transflash for $17USD...
WTH I just bought 2 of these, whats wrong with them? Is it all of them?
reyjabs said:
I'm using this one guys, SanDisk 8GB ULTRA Micro SD (SDHC) Card - Class 6 + USB Reader and mind you it's really flying. Good news is, FREE shipping worldwide.
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDHC/SanDisk/SanDisk-8GB-ULTRA-Micro-SD-%28SDHC%29-Card---Class-6-%2B-USB-Reader
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Great price... They don't ship to Serbia thou, it's a bit of a problem...
yes please explain
is it all of the kingston microSDHC cards that are slow
or is it just you?
because im about to buy one form meritline
Just bought two of the Transcend 8GB MicroSDHC.
If anyone in Ontario Canada needs on, feel free to shoot me a PM!
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"On September 2008, IDC India reported that Transcend ranked number 1 in sales of flash memory products, including USB flash drives and flash cards, in 2007, beating Kingston and SanDisk[2]."
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Ford & Chevrolet beat out Lamborghini & Ferrari in sales....but guess what's better?
Rank in sales means nothing if you're looking for quality. 90% or more of the time the top name in sales is NOT the best quality, just the best value. Sandisk is definitely better quality.

What is the best SD card for the Hero?

Heya,
I'm sure this topic has been discussed but I can't seem to find a clear answer. It's obvious that the HTC Hero is somewhat temperamental with certain makes and classes of Micro SD, or the assumed Class 6 isn't always as fast as people hope.
In my case the 2gb stock card is just going to be too small so I'm keen to purchase the biggest card the phone will support (which is 16gb?) or 8gb. Is there a card in particular which stands out as being the best (in terms of speed) for the HTC Hero at these sizes?
Thanks
i think the biggest possible micro sdhc card is 32gb, but i´m not sure and it was not worth to me so i bought a 16gb and it works perfect
Are there 32GB micro sd cards available?
theodore80 said:
Are there 32GB micro sd cards available?
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find Sandisk 32GB micro SDHC is already available for pre-order, but no specific date of release.
I just bought a Sandisk 16GB micro sd (class 2), appears faster then the 2gb stock card.
Try to search some technical reviews of different SD card with statistics. Much better than relying on "CLASS".
Class is important
Hi, I would say that in a price/performance view you should go for a 8GB class 6 card right now. The class says how fast the card can transfer data. Class 2 does 2MB/s. Class 6 does 6MB/s.
32GB is the limit of the SDHC format. I have 8GB now and I guess I upgrade to 32GB later when prices get better.
for sandisk, class 2 = class 4, class 4 = class 6.
as i know, some class 2 is actually much faster than the standard minimum speed.
I have an 8 gig in my phone but its having trouble rescanning the card i have like 4 gigs of music on it and I think thats too much for the phone to scan, that would be my only thing to maybe consider.
Ps if anyone has a solution for my problem that would be great haha
Unless you despareately need to store A LOT of data on your phone get the fastest card rather than the largest.
8GB SanDisk Class 6 card is about £17.
16GB SanDisk Class 6 is nearly £50.
Prices will drop rapidly so for now I'd go for 8GB at 6MBPS over 16GB or 32GB at a lower speed.
Hi - Following on from this, has anyone used a 32GB card and proven it works. I'd hate to get one and find out that it's incompatible with the G2 Hero.
32GB microSD cards are out?!
ozym said:
Unless you despareately need to store A LOT of data on your phone get the fastest card rather than the largest.
8GB SanDisk Class 6 card is about £17.
16GB SanDisk Class 6 is nearly £50.
Prices will drop rapidly so for now I'd go for 8GB at 6MBPS over 16GB or 32GB at a lower speed.
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The 16GB Class 6 you list doesn't seem like that much of a stretch to me, it is a wee bit over twice the price, but not ridciulously so (i.e 3x the price). It is the best MicroSDHC card that money can buy, and the transcend one I've got is nice and fast (pretty sure it was less than £50 too, now that I think about it).
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Hi - Following on from this, has anyone used a 32GB card and proven it works. I'd hate to get one and find out that it's incompatible with the G2 Hero.
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thecodemonk said:
32GB microSD cards are out?!
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Nup, no 32GB MicroSDHC cards as yet fellas, all the sites I've seen, list the Sandisk one for Pre-Order, but its been like that for 6 months, so maybe they're planning for a 2010 release?
Err is that spam?
any offical word or tests showing that a class 6 will work to its full speed... rumor I have heard is the hardware in the hero (us version) will utilize up to class 2 speeds.
(Not to say a class 6 wont work. just that it will only be reading and writing at class 2 speeds) Can anybody confirm?
I can maintain 6-7MB/s write speak to my 16GB Class 6 which is Class 6 speeds. Not as fast as I'd like (SD speeds), but worlds better than the Nokia N95 8GB I had before which was limited to 800-1000KB/s (only USB 2.0 full speed as opposed to hi speed).
qwiksand, is that from your hero or from a card reader?
I am trying to find the source now but cant rummage up my history; i swear i read an email from HTC saying the card reader in the Hero was a class 2 reader, thus nullifying any performance increase from a class 4 or 6 card.
hmm, you're making me doubt myself now!
I'll do a speed test today both in the phone, and out.
izanagi said:
I am trying to find the source now but cant rummage up my history; i swear i read an email from HTC saying the card reader in the Hero was a class 2 reader, thus nullifying any performance increase from a class 4 or 6 card.
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Likewise,I'm sure I read an official source saying that it would only make use of 16GB irrespective of the size of the card. Sounds more dubious but I'm not going to risk it with my own money!!
Any updates? Want to get one on black friday
As what i know G3 Hero only support up to 16gb sd/sdhc card.
As the class on those card are for writing speed & reading speed is all the same.
edit: i have found some news frm somewhere...
Good Morning Frank,
Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC America Technical Support via E-Mail with your inquiry about what class of SD card to use in your Sprint HTC Hero. My name is A.J. and I will be happy to assist you today.
If you are looking to purchase an SD card that the device will read at its full native speed you will need to purchase a class 2. The device will read a class 4 but not at its native speeds.
Frank, if you have any future questions about your device please feel free to visit HTC - Touch Phone, PDA Phone, Smartphone, Mobile Computer and send us another e-mail. You may also enjoy HTC Smartphone Wiki - HTC, which has a plethora of information on HTC devices, including the Sprint HTC Hero! I would also like to invite you to participate in a customer satisfaction survey located at HTC Online Survey I hope you have a great day!
HTC America Technical Support
A.J.
According to HTC's website the Hero can use SD 2.0, SD 2.0 is another way of saying SDHC, just like devices that are compatible with standard SD, the device is expandable to the limit of the format. Therefore, the Hero CAN do 32GB because it is SDHC compatible. Only problem is the 32GB Cards have yet to be mass produced.

Ordered my Focus!!! - Micro SDHC Question

I ordered the Samsung Focus with Amazon Wireless for one penny and a two year contract with AT&T! Couldn't be any happier with that.
Anyway, I ordered a case:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00495YF8A/ref=oss_product
And a screen protector (I know it's tough to scratch but eh, why not. Lol)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003F8C1GK/ref=oss_product
So I've been thinking about how much memory is on the phone. 8GB is nice but I will want to put a few of my 720P movies onto the Focus. I figured I could get 8B Micro SDHC (Class 10) and it would make it, 16GB. That's pretty decent, right? I think it will hold me over... Lol.
I did some research and I get the higher the class, the higher the write speeds. Right?
Well, what do ya'll think of this one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220493
Thanks in advance everyone!!!
8gb is good enough for me....for now! Ill be buying a 16gb card soon enough tho because everytime you change the sd card you have to do a full reset on your phone, so id rather just do it now and get it all over with. So, what im trying to tell you is just get yourself a 16gb card if you going to be adding 720p movies...that way you wont really need to worry about changing the card later. As for the class...class 10 is unnecessary....class 2 has been proven to be VERY sufficient in the focus...even class 4. I had a class 6 and now I have a class 2 and there is NO difference in performance on my focus. Anyways, as for sd cards, be careful because some aren't working properly....I would say your safest bet is buying Sandisk...since thats what Samsung is using in the focus for memory right now.
Hope this helps!
Mr Patchy Patch said:
8gb is good enough for me....for now! Ill be buying a 16gb card soon enough tho because everytime you change the sd card you have to do a full reset on your phone, so id rather just do it now and get it all over with. So, what im trying to tell you is just get yourself a 16gb card if you going to be adding 720p movies...that way you wont really need to worry about changing the card later. As for the class...class 10 is unnecessary....class 2 has been proven to be VERY sufficient in the focus...even class 4. I had a class 6 and now I have a class 2 and there is NO difference in performance on my focus. Anyways, as for sd cards, be careful because some aren't working properly....I would say your safest bet is buying Sandisk...since thats what Samsung is using in the focus for memory right now.
Hope this helps!
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Well, if I put a 720P movie on there, I'll just delete it once I'm finished watching it. Not going to have more than a few gigs of music too. So 8GB is good for me. Obviously once you put a movie on there you can delete it and get your memory back, correct? Sounds nooby but just double checkin... Lol. The higher the class the faster it gets on the card, right?
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i got a sandisk 16g class 4 from radio shack cost about $34, had it in since two weeks before christmas.... loaded it almost full, empted most of it out loaded and unloaded stuff, havn't had any problems so far....... been running strong and just as fast as without the card...
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Well, if I put a 720P movie on there, I'll just delete it once I'm finished watching it. Not going to have more than a few gigs of music too. So 8GB is good for me. Obviously once you put a movie on there you can delete it and get your memory back, correct? Sounds nooby but just double checkin... Lol. The higher the class the faster it gets on the card, right?
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correct...once you delete things you get your space back. I didn't notice much difference in transfer speed between my class 6 and class 2. So if you can, just save yourself the money and get class 4. There was an article I read somewhere that a higher class can actually make performance worse on the phone. Don't know how true it is, but class 2 has been perfect for me. No difference anywhere.
You need too spend some time reading this thread before buying a microsd card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834144&page=3
Determining whether an SD card is Windows Phone 7 compliant is not a simple matter of judging its speed class. Several other factors, such as the number of random read/write operations per second, play a role in determining how well an SD card performs with Windows Phone 7 devices.
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2450831
A higher speed class can actually work against you because sometimes the maker sacrifices random operations for speed.
You can either wait for official "windows phone 7 certified" cards or take your chances. Read the first post carefully, especially the most recent posts. I personally have been using a 16gb Samsung card with no problems. Caveat emptor.
Sweet, thanks for the info.
This one looks promising...
Patriot Signature 16GB Micro SDHC Class 4 Flash Card Model PSF16GMCSDHC43P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220524
If you read the feedback, nothing but positive reviews.
"Pros: Very good price to performance ratio. Works with the Samsung Focus. Good read write speeds.
Cons: None
Other Thoughts: Not sure why some say negatives about the speed of the card. Maybe they got a bad one, but this tested out at just under 4.5gb write speeds. I had been using a Sandisk class 2 card with my Samsung Focus, but it would do some random rebooting and crashing. With this card it has been absoulutly perfect for over a week of use. I have 15gb of music and photos on the phone so I know that I am using the memory card along with the 8gb that is onboard with the phone."
Kinda sold on this... Should I do it?!?!?!?! Buy it right now?!?!! lol
This is pretty much what I was asking in another thread. I want to go with a 32GB card as I don't want to go through hard reset if I ever need more memory later on.
What is a good 32GB tmicroSD card hat works with Focus with no issues? I would like name of manufacturer, class and even the part# so I can source locally (go to store or order online).
Thanks.
No lie, you're going to spend a lot of $ and 32GB is overkill.
PaullikesWINMO said:
This is pretty much what I was asking in another thread. I want to go with a 32GB card as I don't want to go through hard reset if I ever need more memory later on.
What is a good 32GB tmicroSD card hat works with Focus with no issues? I would like name of manufacturer, class and even the part# so I can source locally (go to store or order online).
Thanks.
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like I said before class 2 or 4 and Sandisk would be your safest bet.
smuook said:
You need too spend some time reading this thread before buying a microsd card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834144&page=3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2450831
A higher speed class can actually work against you because sometimes the maker sacrifices random operations for speed.
You can either wait for official "windows phone 7 certified" cards or take your chances. Read the first post carefully, especially the most recent posts. I personally have been using a 16gb Samsung card with no problems. Caveat emptor.
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thank you for posting that.
Cool, will do. Thanks
Might one of you be able to supply the MFG Part# of the working 32GB microSD cards you have ?
Patriot 16GB Class 4 working PERFECTLY!!!
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like I said before class 2 or 4 and Sandisk would be your safest bet.
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No sANDISK 16 GB class 2, THAT doesnt work, read the thread before you advise
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No sANDISK 16 GB class 2, THAT doesnt work, read the thread before you advise
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you dumbass! I've been using that for about 2 weeks now without problems....dont tell me it doesn't work!!!
Mr Patchy Patch said:
you dumbass! I've been using that for about 2 weeks now without problems....dont tell me it doesn't work!!!
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LOL, 2 weeks, that's a lifetime. I am so going to laugh when it starts giving you troubles.
I see you have never read the whole thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834144&goto=newpost
In that thread you'll see that around 7 guys with that MicroSD had multiple problems with that card, including myself.
Good luck with that L!
Mr Patchy Patch said:
you dumbass! I've been using that for about 2 weeks now without problems....dont tell me it doesn't work!!!
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After reading the large thread on compatible cards above, it seems the real test is if you've loaded over 8GB of data onto the SDHC card (or over 16GB total in your case) and don't experience any problems. If that's the case then that's awesome (and it also sadly verifies the fact that no one knows which brand of card really works than the Sandisk 8GB Class 2, which is mentioned in the official instruction manual).
To the OP, I've stuck with the 8GB Sandisk. I considered the OEM version for $12 USD available on Amazon but decided against it, and went with the retail packaged version, which I got at Radio Shack for $20 USD. 14 or so GB will be good enough until the official certified ones are announced.
well ill just refer to him as mr arse... but mr arse is partially correct.... mine was stable up to 15gb then after that it went downhill fast.... so give the dude a bit of a break....
Has anyone seen any OFFICIAL announcement that there will be APPROVED cards for WP7. I know that Sandisk tried to pull a fast one and say their's were approved but then pulled them. Is MS even allowing such a program?

32G or 16G+16G card?

My sister is ( finally ) getting me a Note as a bday+Christmas present.
She stopped at several stores and they told her they only stock the 16G.
The reason is that nobody is buying the 32G. If they want 32G they are buying the 16G and a 16G microSD card, since it is cheaper.
To me it seems to be a nobrainer to get the 32G ( buy as much as you can ) so I'm a bit surprised that people are thinking that way.
Which is the better approach? Ok I know that with 32G you always get 16G more. but aside from that. ( I hope you understand what I'm saying here. )
16gb version is better.. look at the math..
16gb note 10.1 - $500
32gb note 10.1 - $550
16gb micro sd - $14
http://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-16GB-MicroSDHC-Memory-Class/dp/B001F7AJKI
32gb micro sd - $23
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Mobile-microSDHC-Memory-SDSDQ-032G-AFFP/dp/B007KFXIDE/ref=pd_cp_e_2
64gb micro sd - $59
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Micro...358744080&sr=1-1&keywords=64+gb+micro+sd+card
txtmikhail said:
16gb version is better.. look at the math..
16gb note 10.1 - $500
32gb note 10.1 - $550
16gb micro sd - $14
32gb micro sd - $23
64gb micro sd - $59
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I must say that I posted on xda--developers instead of some other forum because I expect a more intelligent answer. This is an answer that is worthy of a cnet forum or something like androidforums.com.
Your answer is correct only if two conditions are true. The quality of the memory on the card is the same as the quality of the internal memory. If it's less, then you have to go with more expensive higher quality cards which gainsays your whole argument.
The second condition is that to a user has the same "experience"[1] using a 32G tablet and a 16G tablet +16G card. If there are differences in the experience then people will find one or the other better to use.
It is the second condition that my question was addressing.
[1] Sorry to all readers, I really hate that word when used to talk about computer use, but can you show me another which works as well here?
Space is space.. why pay $50 more for 16gb when u could have 64gb.. its a tablet not a computer.. you will not need a high class card unless you plan of some 1080 video recording or some blu-ray movie watching.. Most cards on the Market except cheap china memory cards will get the job done.. space is more important than speed when using a mobile device... I gave you my opinion and if its not what u looking for than what are you looking for? 16gb is enough space for games and apps.. Use your sd card slot for music and movies
For what I use my tablet for, I have not found a difference in "experience" when retrieving files from my external micro sd compared to my internal sd. That is, from low quality videos to pdfs, I have not found any decrease in performance comparing the two different sources. In addition, I actually use dropbox and google drive a lot more now, just because it came with 50gb in dropbox, and I store a lot of documents in drive because I was getting annoyed at retrieving them from tablet to desktop to phone for a quick reference.
I am using a 16gb tablet + a 32 gb card (Sandisk.. I think it's class 4 or class 6).
Basically, what I would say is that a 32gb tablet is always better if you don't mind throwing in extra money because you never know when you might want that extra 16gb. However, it isn't necessary if you have a good wifi connection in locations you normally use it (for example, my apartment has great wifi, and my university has great..ish wifi), or if you don't have a bajillion ultimate HD videos to store on your device. In any case, I got a 16gb because there isn't a wifi 32gb white version. I mean, who in their right mind would pick the gray ?
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Ihave not found a difference in "experience" when retrieving files
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I'm sorry, but I am not justg talking about the experience when "retrieving files". For example the "memory"[1] is used during booting. It's used for swap. It's used to store applications and configuration files. With some of the things it is probably not important. The thing is that I am not that familiar with android and if I was I would already know the answer and not have to ask. (Sorry forgot to add this in the original version. ) One way to think of this question is: is there a circumstance where the tab is likely to say ( with the 16G and not the 32G ): "I'm sorry SDave. I can't do that because you've run out of internal memory. I don't care that you have an external 500G HD attachded. I can only do that with internal memory." [2]
Put another way, if I were told by a friend that he was buying a desktop which came with an unremovable hard drive and only one slot/port to which he could add a second hard, and if that friend then asked how big of an internal hard drivwe should he get. I would probably answer get as big as your circumstances allow. But is that the same answer for an android tablet?.
In any case, I got a 16gb because there isn't a wifi 32gb white version. I mean, who in their right mind would pick the gray ?
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Who in their right mind would pick "Apple White"?
[1] Again a stupid word. It's a hard drive, or rather a SSD not really "memory".
[2] OK. It's late and I am getting a bit loopy but you get the question.
It's very clear the OP Is looking for a convincing answer to persaude his sister into buying him the 32 GB.
As others here have correctly explained, besides more storage, which could be had cheaper in form of SD Cards, there is very little technical advantage to the 32GB.
Ask yourself what answer you'd be looking for if it you were getting it with Your own money.
Be grateful, you will be happier.
Way I see it is this. You want a Note 10.1, You ain't paying for it, get the one your sister can afford. If money is NO problem get the 32gb note3g. If money is tight, get the 16gb and get a 32gb card.
Technically the ONLY difference between wifi devices is the storage.
IF I were to buy another note I would get the 32 Gig 3g one, purely and simply due to portability (I don't like tethering when out and about, drains phone battery too quickly). Colour wise, I don't have a preference. But since the white one would be going to my OH I would probably get a grey to differentiate.
All right. So, my point was that I didn't encounter any trouble with my 16gb one based on my location and uses as listed, and I've never had such "I'm sorry, Dave, I cannot allow you to do that" moments on my previous tablet which was also a 16gb + 32gb microsd chip.
Again, for my personal uses, I've never found a need for more than 16gb (I've always had about 5-10gb free if I clear my download folders after I transfer files). So, yes, it does sound like you want some excuse for the extra 16gb. If that is the case, then just think of it as a just-in-case-you-need-more-than 16+64gb of storage and online storage isn't an option.
As for you calling it Apple-white..
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, tell me, sir, what color pray tell is that!? THAT IS RIGHT! Apple-gray! Just like the evil 32gb wifi note tablet! (Actually, the reason why I like white for this tablet is because it is a plastic build and shiny white doesn't look bad compared to a plastic shiny gray to me. However, when I saw the gray one in store, it actually wasn't as bad as the pictures look..)
klau1 said:
It's very clear the OP Is looking for a convincing answer to persaude his sister into buying him the 32 GB.
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1) My sister has already agreed to get me the 32G model.
2) I've offered to pay her the difference. She doesn't want it.
3) I've tried to explain why I want the 32G. several times. She says that she doesn't care. The last few times she started getting huffy about it. So I stopped trying to explain. Hey I'm a geek that knows when to tone down the geekiness.
The thing is that my sister has stopped at several stores, and they all told her they stopped stocking the 32G because no one wanted it and they gave her the 16G+16G card story. I later called several stores and they told me they only had the 16G in stock but didn't give me the story.
She is averse to buying things online, but said she will special order it. I assured her that I wasn't in that great a hurry. So every thing is hunky dunky.
Ask yourself what answer you'd be looking for if it you were getting it with Your own money.
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I would buy the 32G from NewEgg and not jump through the hoops she has.
Now don't you feel stupid for to paraphrase Arthur Conan Doyle ":theorizing before you had the facts"?
As others here have correctly explained, besides more storage, which could be had cheaper in form of SD Cards, there is very little technical advantage to the 32GB.
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Instead of telling us the technical advantages are little.why don't you tell us the technical advantages and let us decide for ourselves?
32gb with 32gb microsd . 16gb has like 11gb to start with when after the os etc. 3 hd movies 2gb music and some apps and you're full.
MouseTheLuckyDog said:
1) My sister has already agreed to get me the 32G model.
2) I've offered to pay her the difference. She doesn't want it.
3) I've tried to explain why I want the 32G. several times. She says that she doesn't care. The last few times she started getting huffy about it. So I stopped trying to explain. Hey I'm a geek that knows when to tone down the geekiness.
The thing is that my sister has stopped at several stores, and they all told her they stopped stocking the 32G because no one wanted it and they gave her the 16G+16G card story. I later called several stores and they told me they only had the 16G in stock but didn't give me the story.
She is averse to buying things online, but said she will special order it. I assured her that I wasn't in that great a hurry. So every thing is hunky dunky.
I would buy the 32G from NewEgg and not jump through the hoops she has.
Now don't you feel stupid for to paraphrase Arthur Conan Doyle ":theorizing before you had the facts"?
Instead of telling us the technical advantages are little.why don't you tell us the technical advantages and let us decide for ourselves?
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What every one is trying to say is....if money is no concern then get the 32gb model, obviously it is better to have more internal storage coupled with a decent card. And that if money is a concern, then it would be cheaper to buy the 16gb model and get a 16 or 32gb card. Essentially with the 32gb model you are paying 50 more for the extra 16gb, whereas a 16gb card is only 20.
I've had the 16gb version since end of November, installed loads of apps and still have 8gb left.....and I don't even have a memory card yet.
So.....money no object get the 32gb.
Money matters.....get 16gb + 16 or 32gb card.
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First let me thank you for giving me a chance to get this thread back on track. When some arrogant fool says something foolish I tend to engage.
Bigger fool I for that. ( 10 points if you get the literary reference. )
Riki1kenobi said:
Way I see it is this. You want a Note 10.1, You ain't paying for it, get the one your sister can afford. If money is NO problem get the 32gb note3g. If money is tight, get the 16gb and get a 32gb card.
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The thing is not the money. The thing is that she hates online shopping and the clerks at the BestBuys, Walmarts etc told her they don't stock 32G ( not sure they were telling the truth though--when I called one they told me they stocked them but were out ). They siad it was because everyone was buying the !^G+ 16G card. They implied that that was a better way to go because it was cheaper.
This runs contrary to my instinct. If a friend told me he could buy a computer with a !T drive or one with a 500G drive and he could by an extra 500G drive, I would tell him to buy the 1T computer even if the other one was cheaper. ( Unless it was like well $250 cheaper or something like that. ) My understanding is that this logic is even more compelling for tablets. So I might be misunderstanding something, and I thought I would ask here, to clarify my insight.
IF I were to buy another note I would get the 32 Gig 3g one, purely and simply due to portability (I don't like tethering when out and about, drains phone battery too quickly). Colour wise, I don't have a preference. But since the white one would be going to my OH I would probably get a grey to differentiate.
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Well I would refuse the 3g part because I refuse gto carry any kind of cell phone .
The color I was just joking about.
Nobody has yet picked up on the most basic of issues... Sigh...
The external SD card CANNOT be used for applications and in most cases "game data".
It can only be used for storage of media files and for archival purposes, such as backups. You CANNOT move any applications to it unless you are prepared to root the tablet and make significant changes to the way it works.
Go for the 32GB if you can get hold of it and she can afford it. Amazon UK sell the 32GB version but only in the WiFi version, not the 3G version.
Z.
Markhypnosis said:
What every one is trying to say is....if money is no concern then get the 32gb model, obviously it is better to have more internal storage coupled with a decent card.
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Let me try to differ politely. This is not what txtmikhail, klau1 and asdfuogh ( though asdfuogh has not said it as forcefully as the other two ) have said. They have said that there is no significant difference between the 32G and 16G+16G card so the a6+a6 way is always better because it is cheaper.
This is also what some store clerks were implying.
My understanding is closer to what you said, buy the biggest model that you can afford.
That is why i posted, because I was not sure whether the clerks were lying or my understanding was wrong.
MouseTheLuckyDog said:
First let me thank you for giving me a chance to get this thread back on track. When some arrogant fool says something foolish I tend to engage.
Bigger fool I for that. ( 10 points if you get the literary reference. )
The thing is not the money. The thing is that she hates online shopping and the clerks at the BestBuys, Walmarts etc told her they don't stock 32G ( not sure they were telling the truth though--when I called one they told me they stocked them but were out ). They siad it was because everyone was buying the !^G+ 16G card. They implied that that was a better way to go because it was cheaper.
This runs contrary to my instinct. If a friend told me he could buy a computer with a !T drive or one with a 500G drive and he could by an extra 500G drive, I would tell him to buy the 1T computer even if the other one was cheaper. ( Unless it was like well $250 cheaper or something like that. ) My understanding is that this logic is even more compelling for tablets. So I might be misunderstanding something, and I thought I would ask here, to clarify my insight.
Well I would refuse the 3g part because I refuse gto carry any kind of cell phone .
The color I was just joking about.
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3G doesn't make it a phone! It makes it connectable (usable) where there's no hotspot or in your case a phone to tether it to.
Stoney60 said:
3G doesn't make it a phone! It makes it connectable (usable) where there's no hotspot or in your case a phone to tether it to.
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My bad.
MouseTheLuckyDog said:
1) My sister has already agreed to get me the 32G model.
Instead of telling us the technical advantages are little.why don't you tell us the technical advantages and let us decide for ourselves?
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On first point be thankful of a very nice sister
On point 2, there are NO technical differences. They are exactly the same tablet, just with more storage. Hope this clears it up.
As some will say, it depends on what you use it for. Gaming will eat up 16gig quickly. However, always remember to clear the cache for apps often. I freed up just under a gig by clearing the cache earlier. Apps like Google plus and Currents are cache hogs. Over 300mb between them.
Enjoy your new tab :good:
I have the 32GB. I'm hardly a power user and I only have 11GB free of main memory. Obviously the 16GB would never have been enough for me. I have all my backups, music and video on the SD card, so none of that space is taken up with those. I suspect it's mostly extra game data from Gameloft and EA games that are installed.
So much debate over something so simple. Color me impressed! Internal storage is faster than external (SD card) storage. If you plan to load a lot of high end games and such (eg Bard's Tale alone is 3.5GB...throw in some Modern Combat and a couple others and you're done), you'll want the 32GB model. IN ADDITION, if you want greater overall storage then a 32GB gives you the potential of 96GB when paired with a 64GB card.
There really isn't much more to it than that.
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