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I wonder how good the support her will be for this phone?

I have previously had the ATT tilt, fuze, and ended up switching over to the droid. It was absolutely a painful decision to leave these forums and get the droid.
I'm heavily debating getting the incredible though so I can come back to you all.

taylor310 said:
I have previously had the ATT tilt, fuze, and ended up switching over to the droid. It was absolutely a painful decision to leave these forums and get the droid.
I'm heavily debating getting the incredible though so I can come back to you all.
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Hopefully the incredible will have the same following as the nexus on here and even better yet maybe since the hardware is so similar we can use some of the same development that have already been made for the nexus. I'm not too crazy on sense ui so I think I would honestly want to remove it somehow but since I'm on VZW i'm not going to wait on the N1 I'm snatching the incredible up asap.

I'm sure the support will be Incredible.

First thing I do will be trashing the sense UI. I want my CM.

Why Nexus One Was Leapfrogged by HTC Incredible and Evo 4G

Google Exec Hints at Why Nexus One Was Leapfrogged by HTC Incredible, Evo 4G
http://googlewatch.eweek.com/content/android_vs_iphone/google_exec_hints_at_why_nexus_one_was_leapfrogged_by_htc_incredible_evo_4g.html
"Nexus One isn't a failure so much as a casualty of the success of the next wave of Android smartphones. In a few months, I'm sure we'll be saying the same things about the Incredible and the Evo 4G."
Some people may be bothered with this, but I am happy with my Nexus One. I have no buyers remorse.

I don't view my N1 as obsolete in any way at all and am quite happy with it, it's no worse than the Incredible and all aspects of the device ooze performance

phones are starting to become like computers now. as soon as you buy one a new and better one comes out tomorrow.
and what sucks about is...you're suck with a 2 year contract.

So adding two features equals "leapfrogged" now?
What a load of crap. Who has FroYo now? Yeah, that's what I thought.

I always f*cking hate these posts. I really don't want to hear doom and gloom.

Definitely don't feel any remorse.
My phone is JUST as good as the ones that are coming out NOW.
Yea, 8MP cam + dual flash, but cmon, the pictures are hardly better.
Plus the nexus LOOKS better than both of those.

mortzz said:
So adding two features equals "leapfrogged" now?
What a load of crap. Who has FroYo now? Yeah, that's what I thought.
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SERIOUSLY, people are rediculous....... I stayed with DDR400 until DDR32000 came out because it was a serious step up...... There is nothing that screams "OH MY GOD INNOVATION" about either phone..... My next phone will be when my Nexus no longer has the NAND capacity for the current Android version. I love my Nexus

i'm with mortzz on this one. we have a phone that we can do whatever we want to do to it. i'd MUCH rather have this. i'm on the fence about the evo, but until we can get real system access (yeah, i saw the root article, but i'll believe it when i see it), custom ROM's, etc, i'll stick with the N1. which, btw, is STILL the sexiest phone i've ever seen. girl i'm seeing has the incredible, and...no thanks. not in comparison. it's a nice phone, if you have to have verizon. but, i don't
i do however have to get a sprint device. so...i may have to break contract with tmo and get the evo. otherwise, my school is going to stick me with the freaking touch pro 2 as my pager. lord what a step back that will be. but, at least if i take that, i can keep my N1

Uh. What?
Incredible and Evo won't get FroYo until the end of this year.
How about we come back to this article then so we can point and laugh?

Having root >>>> anything else.
Have any high-end phones since the Nexus achieved full root? I mean cracked bootloader and all. Desire, Legend, new Droids - none have the kind of access we do. Heck, we may have the best fully root-able hardware HTC will ever release.

I dont think the Incredible is any better than the N1, i've played witht he incredible and it feels cheap plastic like and the camera sucks as well. I like the feel of the N1 and like the looks of it. The Evo is a whole different story...

timothydonohue said:
i'm with mortzz on this one. we have a phone that we can do whatever we want to do to it. i'd MUCH rather have this. i'm on the fence about the evo, but until we can get real system access (yeah, i saw the root article, but i'll believe it when i see it), custom ROM's, etc, i'll stick with the N1. which, btw, is STILL the sexiest phone i've ever seen. girl i'm seeing has the incredible, and...no thanks. not in comparison. it's a nice phone, if you have to have verizon. but, i don't
i do however have to get a sprint device. so...i may have to break contract with tmo and get the evo. otherwise, my school is going to stick me with the freaking touch pro 2 as my pager. lord what a step back that will be. but, at least if i take that, i can keep my N1
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They have "root" meaning they have su permissions. AFAIK they don't have write permissions to the partitions, so it's pretty worthless.

Only thing i regret about my Nexus One is that apparently the Desire and Incredible both have touchscreens that fixed the multitouch issues.
Other than that the idea of having basically a google developement phone surpasses any of the other current phones, maybe when we see a decent hardware upgrade, then it will be a different story, but hopefully Google continues to make new Nexus phones.

FISKER_Q said:
Only thing i regret about my Nexus One is that apparently the Desire and Incredible both have touchscreens that fixed the multitouch issues.
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The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg

Paul22000 said:
The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
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That is sad. So they have the same MT issue as us, a much smaller dev front, usb-bricking issues while flashing roms, no full solution for being rooted/unlocked...took htc ages to release the kernel...they won't see froyo for ages (officially).
Not much to be ... wait for it... desired

Paul22000 said:
The Desire has the same issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
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How many points does a Galaxy register again? I'm guessing more than 2

In the UK, the N1/Desire is still the King. Desire = UK incredible, but is LITERALLY an N1, and I doubt we will ever see the Evo here [not even a whisp of 4g network].
Even if they did, all the incredible has is the less buggy touch matrix, although this has been nicely 'fixed' in froyo. The evo is a different breed of phone, id never buy it purely based on the fact that i like thinks to fit in my pocket xD
Until I see a snapgradon 1.3+, 1GB RAM, a TRUE 8mp+ cam, froyo, new gen OLED/better, my N1 can sleep with my girl any day.

that makes two of us i love man I LOVE MY NEXUS ONE

the video is @ livestream.com/disrupt/video?clipId=pla_cfa02640-01dd-4ac5-bba9-a2a2b0feee24

haha my friend was a tad jealous of me. he has the Hero and i like his sense ui. but the minute froyo came out, i installed it. i showed him how i can play hulu, i showed him that i got live wallpapers (of course he doesn't have 2.1) and the rest of the froyo goodness. and outta jealousy, he was like "oh well im gonna get a phone thats better than that. im give to get the Evo 4G that has everything the nexus one has and more, including Android 2.2" and i was like "riiiiight. just like the hero was supposed to (officially) get 2.1 right?" and he stood quiet lol idk about all of you guys but i don't really care for 2 led lights. im good with just one. as for 4G, i like to have the freedom to switch between my N1, my BB Curve 8310, and my iPhone 3GS with the simple swap of a SIM card so im great with my Sexy Nexy

What phone are you dumping for the droid x?

I currently have the droid incredible, but have a lot of problems with it. Verizon said I'll be able to get my phone replaced with the droid x. What phone are you switching from?

The Motorola rival. ...Droid x was the only phone which made me go crazy about android LOL

A crappy Blackberry Curve 8520 (the Edge-only one) on AT&T with no data plan.

I saw this the x on a few different webpages and I sent my Incredible back next day. The only thing I will miss is that beautiful AMOLED screen.

generic.imitation said:
I currently have the droid incredible, but have a lot of problems with it. Verizon said I'll be able to get my phone replaced with the droid x. What phone are you switching from?
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What problems are you having with your Incredible? I had mine for 18 days and didn't seem to run into anything

I only had my EVO for two weeks. I had to return it due to this screen
It's still up in the air as to the Droid X or a Samsung Galaxy. I'll probably go with the Droid X as a vote of confidence to the devs.

I'm leaving my Samsung Omnia i910
It was my first smart phone and I'll be a little sorry to see it go
You never forget your first!

IncrediblyDroid said:
What problems are you having with your Incredible? I had mine for 18 days and didn't seem to run into anything
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when I plug it into my car's aux line it starts voice dialing, or skips tracks in all my music players. And when it's in the car dock the screen doesn't respond.
This is a replacement incredible. It's a brand new phone, and I had the same problems with both phones, but this replacement's screen is worse in the car dock.
I listen to my music thru my phone in the car every day, so this is very frustrating.

You left BB and WinMo off as groups. Bet a lot of people coming from them as well. Specifically I am converting from WinMo that's not a TP.

I am leaving my Tp2 for the Droid X. I went from Motorola Q9c to Samsung Omnia to Tp2, so this will be my first android phone and i am super excited.

Forgot to mention that before the evo I had an iPhone 3G. I left it for android. More specificly for a huge screen.

My POS
I am dumping my 'wonderful' Samsung gleem. Thursday can't come soon enough!

rolandroland said:
You left BB and WinMo off as groups. Bet a lot of people coming from them as well. Specifically I am converting from WinMo that's not a TP.
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I'll probably be jumping from the vogue.... running 2.2 thanks to dzo and incubus!

Cant believe Eris is not an option on that list

cbaty08 said:
I'll probably be jumping from the vogue.... running 2.2 thanks to dzo and incubus!
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Same here. My contract is up on the 27th so I'll have a couple weeks to hear people's reviews and hear for any announcements on something better (come on Scorpio!)

I'm dumping the Incredible. Nice phone, I love it to death, but I'm seeing the larger screen and longer battery life coming in handy. I was a WinMo convert.

Phones that I currently own and will be dumping
Nexus One
G1
Droid - Keeping
Evo - used for two weeks and then returned
Previously owned:
Mytouch 3G
HD2
GSM Hero
Sprint Hero
Cliq XT

Leavin behind the good old Omnia i910 lol.

nice! make that two tallys for the omnia i910!
btw.. pepperonikiller.. i am using your rom haha

I will be gladly ditching my Eris.
Sent from my Eris using XDA App

[Q] mytouch vs Samsung

So, how is the mytouch 4g gonna stack up against the new 4G Samsung with a front facing camera that was announced today?? Will the Samsung be better and is it really "REAL" 4G so non-T-Mo people can shut up.

Id say the mytouch doesn't rlly stack up to the OG vibrant, let alone one with 4g and a ffc...
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I was talking about the mytouch 4g.

What are you both delusional? specially Flonkas as MT4G beat that wannabe android device in every aspect. In this very forum under few threads down you may want to look at it. lol @ op for thinking Vibrant 4G and Vibrant is diff device.

STHNS said:
What are you both delusional? specially Flonkas as MT4G beat that wannabe android device in every aspect. In this very forum under few threads down you may want to look at it. lol @ op for thinking Vibrant 4G and Vibrant is diff device.
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I don't see why you feel the need to "lol" at me just for asking a question. Unless I didn't understand and you were just being funny. All I've read on the blogs all day today since it was announced is that it will be a better phone. I'm asking why and if that's true. That's all. Don't be such a snob. I found your reply flame-y and a little unnecessary. Again, IF you were trying to make fun of me.

STHNS said:
What are you both delusional? specially Flonkas as MT4G beat that wannabe android device in every aspect. In this very forum under few threads down you may want to look at it. lol @ op for thinking Vibrant 4G and Vibrant is diff device.
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yeah the one differance is 4g and ffc which you can put a ffc in the original yourself. so really? HUGE upgrade -_- i cant wait for the new sidekick 4g though! i cant wait to get a new phone this one is ticking me off.

tinpanalley said:
I don't see why you feel the need to "lol" at me just for asking a question. Unless I didn't understand and you were just being funny. All I've read on the blogs all day today since it was announced is that it will be a better phone. I'm asking why and if that's true. That's all. Don't be such a snob. I found your reply flame-y and a little unnecessary. Again, IF you were trying to make fun of me.
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Wasn't trying to offend you but was just stating facts as we covered it long ago here. Now in what ways will Vibrant 4G be better?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909916
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913896

I'm with STHNS. After buying a Captivate for my gf and doing research on it I am flabberghasted at how many issues plague that phone. The rooting procedure is a nightmare, the GPS is a joke, Samsung's bloatware is incredible and almost a year later they still haven't updated it to Froyo.
I am VERY glad I didn't get a Vibrant. Stay away is my advice.

Cool, guys thanks. I only heard about this phone on Monday when the rumors hit, so I had no idea people were already talking about it.

tinpanalley said:
Cool, guys thanks. I only heard about this phone on Monday when the rumors hit, so I had no idea people were already talking about it.
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My guess is there won't be a new T-Mo phone that could seriously challenge the MT4G until March (sorry Nexus S users)

tinpanalley said:
So, how is the mytouch 4g gonna stack up against the new 4G Samsung with a front facing camera that was announced today?? Will the Samsung be better and is it really "REAL" 4G so non-T-Mo people can shut up.
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I am a former Vibrant owner. The MT4G is leaps and bounds beyond the Vibrant. In the 3 months that I've owned the Vibrant, the majority of my time was spent trying to apply various fixes to try to make the phone work as it should. With the MT4G, the only modification I've made was applying the Gingerbread launcher. As such, I have no reason to believe that the repackaged Vibrant (make no mistake, it's the same phone with a couple of extra bells and whistles thrown in) will be any better. I suggest avoiding Samsung phones altogether, at least in the near future. That company really needs to get its act together.

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My guess is there won't be a new T-Mo phone that could seriously challenge the MT4G until March (sorry Nexus S users)
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Agreed. We've got the best processor, the most RAM, and because it's an HTC we've got tons of ROMs and developer support. There's been an ongoing project to port the Nexus S ROM over to SGS for months now and it's still unstable. We've got CM7 as a daily driver already.
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I am a former Vibrant owner. The MT4G is leaps and bounds beyond the Vibrant. In the 3 months that I've owned the Vibrant, the majority of my time was spent trying to apply various fixes to try to make the phone work as it should. With the MT4G, the only modification I've made was applying the Gingerbread launcher. As such, I have no reason to believe that the repackaged Vibrant (make no mistake, it's the same phone with a couple of extra bells and whistles thrown in) will be any better. I suggest avoiding Samsung phones altogether, at least in the near future. That company really needs to get its act together.
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I would agree with this. I had much respect for Samsung but after buying my gf a Captivate and doing more research I'm on it I'm very displeased with them.

LOL kgbkny I remember when I had HD2 and Vibrant first came out people came up to me and was like this is better than yours I was like idiot you don't even have lagfix installed and I can beat it down without scaling my CPU at 768mhz. He had no idea so I installed various packages and fixes and he agreed it ran better after and was thankful. But ya Samsung you should avoid it period go with superior mobile vendor like HTC how many phone that is flagship of many carrier is not HTC? Lets be real now HTC is the way to go.

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how many phone that is flagship of many carrier is not HTC?
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That's true.
MT4G
EVO4G
DROID INCREDIBLE
Basically everyone but AT&T has an HTC as their flagship phone.

Phateless said:
That's true.
MT4G
EVO4G
DROID INCREDIBLE
Basically everyone but AT&T has an HTC as their flagship phone.
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lol they have reason for that as AT&T's flagship is iPanzy 4 which is another thread of its own but ya AT&T is just crippling Android device in its lineup. I been telling ya all not to trust THE death star as VZ is the only carrier left from the OG Bell 6/7 split.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCp-1hgfxI

Flonkas said:
Id say the mytouch doesn't rlly stack up to the OG vibrant, let alone one with 4g and a ffc...
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I laughed at this one and I'm a vibrant owner. I got my wife a mt4g for xmas and there is no comparison. Stock out of the box the mt4g is leaps and bounds better than the vibrant. As far as speed and response, the stock mt4g was at a minimum as fast as my rooted/modded/voodoo lagfixed vibrant.
I've installed just about every rom that's come out for the vibrant from eugene, master, and team whiskey as well as every leaked modem that's come out and the mt4g consistently gets better signal than my vibrant as well. I'll be sitting in my house and the vibrant goes back and forth between edge and 3g and I've never seen the mytouch on edge once. Then you have to factor in the gps problem of the samsungs and the fact that samsung has a terrible history of supporting their devices. They'll straight up leave you hanging. They came out with the galaxy s line, then in no time flat they come out with the nexus s, and now they've come out with the vibrant 4g. All that is great if they support their devices when they move on to new ones but they have a history of not doing that. In the meantime I can put gingerbread on my old ass HTC G1.
The one thing the Samsung has going for it is the screen. That screen is hot **** but it's not so great that it makes up for all the other areas that it's deficient in IMO.
Plus the mt4g has sensui. Not everyone likes sense. I do, but more importantly I can run the senseui but if I want something different I can root the phone and install a more vanilla android experience. With the vibrant there isn't any stable sense roms running on it. So you have more variety with the mt4g as well. Plus the extra RAM doesn't hurt either or the FFC. I like the physical buttons and the trackpad as well. YMMV.

see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb5K1CBTRHU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0sRMdYFlyc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZaFM6UgDnQ

Actually the original galaxy s the international version had the FFC, may be tmo is just playing this apple game of streaming the upgrades for its customers.
The MT4 will still be the better phone if samsung chose to use the same wimpy cpu already found in their vibrant.

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That's true.
MT4G
EVO4G
DROID INCREDIBLE
Basically everyone but AT&T has an HTC as their flagship phone.
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AT&T is getting the Desire HD very soon. Of all the current phones, it's the only one that I would give up the MT4G for.

Did you check the communication spec for DHD? It uses 900/2100mhz for 3G you won't get 3G in USA but you can use 2G for d/v. Far as MT4G vs DHD goes I was like you also but as they do share similar spec but if you look at benchmark you will see MT4G is superior than DHD but DHD does have 4.3" display lol which I miss so dearly, but also would have picked DHD if had 3G support.

Going from Verzion to ATT

Just wondering is it still worth it to get the Aria dispite its age?
Im going from a droid 2 I love the Aria's size. But my after seeing my friends HTC hero slugging around with Cyno kind of detracting me from a older android phone.
Any advice will be great.
Thank you.

tonorice said:
Just wondering is it still worth it to get the Aria dispite its age?
Im going from a droid 2 I love the Aria's size. But my after seeing my friends HTC hero slugging around with Cyno kind of detracting me from a older android phone.
Any advice will be great.
Thank you.
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The aria is WAAAAAY faster than the hero. The hero was my previous phone, prior to the Alltel-ATT merge, so yes i understand the painfully slow speeds of the htc hero.

Not a bad choice , certainly the compact size makes all others look like Dinosaurs...I would get one if you're going to root it..
I love mine.

I have no regrets in getting the Aria. I liked the size, and the responsiveness of the touch screen compared to my LG Incite is like night and day. It may not run flash (runs flash lite), may not have the fastest processor, or the largest screen, but the price couldn't be beat (a penny).
My roommate likes it and she wanted it. She's not eligible yet, but she'll get the Android experience soon enough. I'm supposed to be receiving an unlocked Dell Streak as a gift, and she'll be using it until it's time for her to upgrade. Unless I let her use my Aria first.

I am using china unicom.hehe.

turdferguson92 said:
The aria is WAAAAAY faster than the hero. The hero was my previous phone, prior to the Alltel-ATT merge, so yes i understand the painfully slow speeds of the htc hero.
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This.
I am in the same boat.. Alltel Hero to AT&T Aria and the Aria is unbelievably faster and better.
The Aria might quite actually be the sweetspot in Android Smartphones in my opinion. It's small size is it's biggest feature.