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Hello xda-ers!
I have been stalking around, tasting everybody's cooking for a couple of weeks now, and i have got to get something off my chest.
I did search, I do realize that what I am looking for can not be made and that its no one's fault (I might be giving htc a meaningful look right now).
I like a whole lot of roms and chefs here, I really do, but the rom I'm after seems to not exist - one of two options:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
And so I would like to ask of you wizzies, is there light at the end of the tunnel? Are things comming around? How do you see it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
Thank you all so much for all your hard work, you guys are the reason I love smartphones so much, I'm dirt poor but i promise I'll buy you guys a round of beer once I get out of college
Its a matter of time bro. Be batient. A month ago, none of the eclair roms had camera. Now they all do. A month before that none of the eclair roms had N1 voice keyboard. Now they all do. God knows what some of these amazing roms will have and do a month from now. [/good deed for the year]
Love the FAQ sig lol
mnissan said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
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What?
MT3G has 192MB Ram just like Dream but has 512 ROM like Hero.Hero has 288MB RAM.
Macrophage001 said:
Love the FAQ sig lol
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^5 to you bro
mnissan said:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
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1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem
JAguirre1231 said:
1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem
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As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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Well steam out in the right section next time
JAguirre1231 said:
Well steam out in the right section next time
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LOL +2000
"if" you had searched you could have found answers to both of your questions... and maybe posted in the correct section.
maybe that "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look" should be turned into "i actually searched and posted in the Q&A section or the I didn't read before posting..."
No offence but seriously if you would have searched you would have found those 2 answers in almost every thread that had to do with hero or eclair...
mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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I think someone leaked an HTC branded Eclair ROM with the "rosie/sense/whatever," and that's why you see it cooked into a 2.0 ROM.
Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer
shadowch31 said:
Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer
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Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!
Sxyman815 said:
Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!
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iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.
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iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.
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iAlwaysPantyLiners come with wings!
Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...
fiktion said:
Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...
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It went off topic at the same rate the iPad went from wanted to ridiculed. What's so bad about that?
Well back on topic/kinda...
Do we know for sure that htc will release the necessary drivers for video playback/camera? It sounds like some people are positive we'll get them eventually...I switched back to donut because I like being able to watch youtube, but its amazing how far along eclair roms have come, and mad props to NCommander for reverse engineering the camera drivers. Without him we'd still have no camera at this point. But I was just wondering if its confirmed or not that we will indeed get those drivers from htc one day.
Well, T-Mobile is teasing us with an Eclair update for our phones. We shall see.
What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time
Snipe175 said:
What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time
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There's actually one like that, it's called iPhone OS. I suggest you buy an iPhone and try it
I'm guessing I should just install cursorsense and then sell it.
But is it possible just to install the Rogers RUU then everything goes smooth? Or will it brick?
Because if this guy has Cursor Sense and he can't update to the 2.1 rom (If that ever comes out) he's probably going to have some problems.
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Nevermind, I figured it out.
Thanks for the "Help".
So what was the answer?
Brillntred06 said:
So what was the answer?
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http://theunlockr.com/2009/10/06/how-to-unroot-the-htc-magic-non-mytouchget-back-to-cupcake/
I'm done with this community, had a good run. Tried a bunch of interesting roms, but time to head towards the iPhone.
I'm a fr00b
Feel free to... scold me
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I'm a fr00b
Feel free to... scold me
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hah, good question. I'll cover the basics you can do the rest of the research, essentially CM6 is a customer Rom, (stands for Cyanogenmod version 6) for android devices. You can learn more by visiting cyanogenmod.com
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Also, cyanogenmod would happen to be my favorite custom rom, a lot of extra features are included, its pretty well optimized and you can expect updates often. I've personally used Cyanogen on the Mytouch and Nexus one, and I can't wait to see a version on the Vibrant, once an official stable version comes out, you can probably expect Android 2.2 and a lot of optimizations that would may the vibrant what it should have been on launch day.
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Also I hate to throw this in, being a fairly new poster and all (and not being a mod) but I believe that this thread would belong in the vibrant general forum as opposed to the dev forum. Just a heads up so you don't get flamed in the future
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I'm a fr00b
Feel free to... scold me
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Don't worry, we won't scold you. It's not your fault being new and all.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com
I just wish you would realize that your question is for general section
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I just wish you would realize that your question is for general section
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Helpful post, alludes to something I remember mentioning
@andershizzle: if you do decide on running any roms such as CM6, the best tip that can be offered is to make sure you understand what you are doing and read any instructions carefully before you proceed, and make sure you understand the instructions too. Remember to ask for help before doing something that might turn your phone into a $500 paperweight (or in the vibrants case its more of an expensive decoration since I wouldn't trust it to hold down paper. It'd probably blow away too.)
Aphotix said:
Helpful post, alludes to something I remember mentioning
@andershizzle: if you do decide on running any roms such as CM6, the best tip that can be offered is to make sure you understand what you are doing and read any instructions carefully before you proceed, and make sure you understand the instructions too. Remember to ask for help before doing something that might turn your phone into a $500 paperweight (or in the vibrants case its more of an expensive decoration since I wouldn't trust it to hold down paper. It'd probably blow away too.)
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I haven't laughed so loud at any post on XDA as I did with this little comment. Funny, its probably true. LOL!
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you can probably expect Android 2.2 and a lot of optimizations that would may the vibrant what it should have been on launch day.
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Not being a 'nit-picker', but CM6 uses 2.2 (froyo). CM5 is 2.1 (eclair) and CM4 was 1.6 (donut). Hmm....now I'm getting hungry.
But yes, I'm definitely looking forward to see CM6 on the Vibrant. Only downside is it will look like the stock CM6 (meaning our Vibrant png's will be replaced ).
Guess I might start working on the replacement Vibrant theme.
Moved to General forum. The development forum is only for development threads. (Threads with actual development happening.)
Questions should always be in the General forums (or Q&A if your device has a Q&A forum.)
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Not being a 'nit-picker', but CM6 uses 2.2 (froyo). CM5 is 2.1 (eclair) and CM4 was 1.6 (donut). Hmm....now I'm getting hungry.
But yes, I'm definitely looking forward to see CM6 on the Vibrant. Only downside is it will look like the stock CM6 (meaning our Vibrant png's will be replaced ).
Guess I might start working on the replacement Vibrant theme.
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When I'd made the decision to move from my N1 to Vibrant, I was all excited to find out there was going to be a CM for Vibrant. Now, I don't care so much. Vibrant has so many things I was already replacing that it's cut down on my apps somewhat.
I got into rooting for App2SD, and with my Vibrant it just isn't necessary now to run a custom rom. I will miss the undervolting and overclocking, though I sort of hope someone will work on kernels which will work with the stock build. I did a simple root just to use my root apps. Otherwise, Vibrant is pretty good for me.
BTW, this isn't any sort of anti CM post ... I love the work he and his cronies do, and some times I hope that they'll get snapped up by one of the big guys out there. They should be making bank for their talents.
Well I feel like an idiot for posting in the Dev section. Accident. Lmao.
Anyways I've flashed ROMs on a Touch Pro 2 (WinMo *cough*terrible) before so I'm decently familiar with that.
Is CM6 like, Stock 2.2? I'm looking for a stock-as-possible ROM, is that what I should be getting?
Hehe, guess I'll just try it when it comes. But thanks for all info.
Will we be able to install CM6 with ROM Manager?
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Well I feel like an idiot for posting in the Dev section. Accident. Lmao.
Anyways I've flashed ROMs on a Touch Pro 2 (WinMo *cough*terrible) before so I'm decently familiar with that.
Is CM6 like, Stock 2.2? I'm looking for a stock-as-possible ROM, is that what I should be getting?
Hehe, guess I'll just try it when it comes. But thanks for all info.
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If you look at his changelog on his site he shows you the common Froyo bits and then shows the bits for different phone types. I would call it a Custom/Stock Hybrid
Pneumatic said:
Will we be able to install CM6 with ROM Manager?
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From browsing the vibrant forum on cyanogenmod.com it looks like mostly speculation at this point.
davbran said:
From browsing the vibrant forum on cyanogenmod.com it looks like mostly speculation at this point.
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It's not speculation. There is active development for the Vibrant going on. It's just not far along enough yet for an experimental release.
You can follow wesgarner and scepterr on Twitter for the latest updates since they're heading the Vibrant branch. Wes is primarily focused on the MT3G Slide a the moment though since he promised to work on that one first and it's farther along, but he has also been actively working on the Vibrant too.
I just want CM6 on Vibrant to see Wes work his hiney off
No, not really. But I know he will.
The CM team adds a year to our gadgets. All I really want is to get rid of the stinky calendar app right now, and I can do that without CM6 (4,5 or 7, whatever). In eight months, though, when 1.5 or 2gH processors are selling, some ingenious JIT tweak revolutionizes speed, and/or the size of Google Earth becomes more commonplace, I'm going to want CM. I'm going to want it to be in its ruts, hashed & rehashed. Im not necessarily expecting it, but I sure am gonna want it, and be grateful if it's there for me and my old phone.
The CM team is also willing to try new stuff, and can get a load of people to test it. So Apps2SD started where? Got popular how? It's stock now?
CM is open source, and has got a lot of people using and understanding what open source is. The social aspect of software is all too often misunderstood, or just plain dismissed. XDA-developers has revolutionized software as we know it. We'd all be spoon fed M$ users without this site, and possilby without CM specifically. These guys will be in software history textbooks.
So, I'm working donations into my budget. I'ts much cheaper than buying a new phone every few months, or putting up with stock software on old hardware. I will pay these guys as long as they're willing to work their magic.
(By the way, every once is a while I crack out my old Tmo MDA, just for kicks for a few hours. It works beautifully thanks to a custom ROM. Thinking about giving it to my Mom just so she can have a Tmo "smartphone." I love XDA. I love open source, even when it's not exactly.)
Just went to look at the dev section. Come on... Really?
Is a big selection a problem?
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FYI about "all" the roms... in terms of FROYO roms, they are virtually ALL THE SAME -- CM6. The rest of them are actually just rebranded CM6.
Thanks for the sweet input. I'm sure the community will decide to stop working on all of their different ROMs, themes, and whatnot to suit your belief.
It's not that bad - there were times when you could choose from really different ROMs, but then Cyanogen started to support G1 with his CyanogenMod and these days there's only few the bravest who try to build their ROM from AOSP, not from CM source.
So it's like CM AND themed/renamed/scripted MC.
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Thanks for the sweet input. I'm sure the community will decide to stop working on all of their different ROMs, themes, and whatnot to suit your belief.
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That isn't a belief. Its a FACT.
And newbs like you should mind their manners.
johnson8cyl said:
Is a big selection a problem?
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In terms of trying them all to find a preferred one? I guess it's up to the person and how much time they have.
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Thanks for the sweet input. I'm sure the community will decide to stop working on all of their different ROMs, themes, and whatnot to suit your belief.
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Sorry to offend you chap. I love innovation fwiw. I like the skinning of the CM base too. But again, wow, there are a lot. Thanks for commenting!
I miss this about my MT3G.
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Do you seriously think there are a lot of ROMs?
Maybe over time, not updated ones. You have no idea how sweet it was when Donut was still the big player.
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Do you seriously think there are a lot of ROMs?
Maybe over time, not updated ones. You have no idea how sweet it was when Donut was still the big player.
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Heh, it's like when I first got my G1 and watching the android store: "Oh! There's another one!".
I've been around since the beginning and you are right about how "sweet" and exciting it was when the updates came fast and furious. I guess I've been spoiled by that experience, and now it seems to me there are two pages of same ol' different bonnet.
To be clear, not saying this is a bad thing.
yeah, feel ya buddy, i got my g1 less than a week ago, and i felt exactly like you when i wanted to chose a ROM to flash.
I flashed CM6 just to try it out, then switched to biffmod 2.sth, which is like a shaved CM. biff runs a lot faster than CM for me, but i need some ROM that will let at leaste SOME ram free, and that wont kill my battery in just a few hours.. i guess ill have to go for eclair or donut,, i just didnt want to miss froyo updates..
so if you do find some good ROM, let me know
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yeah, feel ya buddy, i got my g1 less than a week ago, and i felt exactly like you when i wanted to chose a ROM to flash.
I flashed CM6 just to try it out, then switched to biffmod 2.sth, which is like a shaved CM. biff runs a lot faster than CM for me, but i need some ROM that will let at leaste SOME ram free, and that wont kill my battery in just a few hours.. i guess ill have to go for eclair or donut,, i just didnt want to miss froyo updates..
so if you do find some good ROM, let me know
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I always keep going back to Chromium.
lbcoder said:
FYI about "all" the roms... in terms of FROYO roms, they are virtually ALL THE SAME -- CM6. The rest of them are actually just rebranded CM6.
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Mine is most certainly not a copy of CM... It's incomplete (camcorder, video), but it's not CM.
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I always keep going back to Chromium.
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I'll make sure to try that one, can you provide a link? (only few results in search and doesnt seem to be it,..)
Im looking for something like milestone's EclairLess, but that would work on the Dream.. anyone?
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Mine is most certainly not a copy of CM... It's incomplete (camcorder, video), but it's not CM.
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True dat! I've been using since it was released, are you ever going to update it?
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Mine is most certainly not a copy of CM... It's incomplete (camcorder, video), but it's not CM.
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He said virtually. And cause yours ain't cm based, im DEF gonna give it a try! Are you planning on getting cam working? Is it you own kernel? Nm, I'll just go read your thread. =]
Oh wait! If I recall you had the first "froyo" right! I was just remembering how that rom was stable for a week with no slowdowns! It just had missing functionality.... I missed that your still developing, I thought you stopped on froyo cause of cm. Going to look for it now. Thx
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I'll make sure to try that one, can you provide a link? (only few results in search and doesnt seem to be it,..)
Im looking for something like milestone's EclairLess, but that would work on the Dream.. anyone?
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Chromium 4.5. It's in the first two pages, I'm on an iPad now so posting links is like pulling teeth, sorry. I've been on Super F now for 24+ hours and it's pretty good too.
Anyone able to recommend a donut or eclair that is still being maintained I would be much obliged.
aaaah I think its called "Chromatic", not "Chromium", thats why I couldnt find it.. lol
ill give it a try, but anyways, Im still looking for a very light 2.1 to see if I can get more battery life and RAM
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Two Thing that we are currently have trouble with:
1、You need to use a special devices to disable the Chip.
2、We still can't unlock NAND.
ANYWAY WE ARE WORKING TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS.
By Andtoo Team
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youtube.com/watch?v=8qFUPo9lR7Q
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Two Thing that we are currently have trouble with:
1、You need to use a special devices to disable the Chip.
2、We still can't unlock NAND.
ANYWAY WE ARE WORKING TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS.
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Jtag interface is what I've been expecting, no sneak peak needed, we know what root will yield, so, lock this thread
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Jtag interface is what I've been expecting, no sneak peak needed, we know what root will yield, so, lock this thread
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We used the smart card & s58 file to disable the chip,not the Jtag interface.
Why would you post this in one thread:
Dalamak said:
I haven't read every post lately, but with my daily glancing, I have heard no mention of advancements or failures on the Jtag side. I know we had at lease one Dev with a torn down Jtaged interfaced G2
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And then 24 minutes later say it is what you expected and request that this thread be locked?
I just wanted to say that I very much appreciate your work towards this. I wish you people all the luck.
Kudos on the progress, thanks for the update!
Yes thanks for the update. Its nice to see progress info as it had started to run dry.
Yea thanks can't wate devs are the answers to my prayers in the phone world
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Thanks for the update, this is good to know.
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looks nice, waiting for nand unlock
Looks cool. As long as we don't need to open our phones downgrade os or anything like that and unlocks nand.
Qualifys for the bounty
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I just came a little bit...
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Why would you post this in one thread:
And then 24 minutes later say it is what you expected and request that this thread be locked?
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sorry, thought this trhead was started by, a newbie, coming off a fresh upwrapiing and a quick google search of newly arrived G2. The 1 post history and screen name through me off, it is great work. Just a big fan and practioner of Jtag and its warm goodness.
Best of luck to u
we will try our best. thanks everyone for your replys
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sorry, thought this trhead was started by, a newbie, coming off a fresh upwrapiing and a quick google search of newly arrived G2. The 1 post history and screen name through me off, it is great work. Just a big fan and practioner of Jtag and its warm goodness.
Best of luck to u
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Understood, there have been a lot of "hey, have you guys seen this" threads.
Which, to be fair, aren't ALWAYS bad threads.
this is awesome...i was starting to break down a little bit more every day. T-mob and HTC are trying to break me. You my friend are putting in WORK!!!
keep up the good roooooot!
my phone shows the same ..but its "Visionary"...whats the difference here??
qqyycchh said:
youtube.com/watch?v=8qFUPo9lR7Q
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Two Thing that we are currently have trouble with:
1、You need to use a special devices to disable the Chip.
2、We still can't unlock NAND.
ANYWAY WE ARE WORKING TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS.
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my phone shows the same ..but its "Visionary"...whats the difference here??
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the same like the pic?
For those that are too lazy to copy and paste. Here are the links from the topic. Since i can post
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8qFUPo9lR7Q
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a338/qqyycchh/IMAG0003.jpg
Also, OP, Why does this seem to be booting into 1.6? That bootup screen doesn't seem to be 2.2
rhcp0112345 said:
Also, OP, Why does this seem to be booting into 1.6? That bootup screen doesn't seem to be 2.2
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Although I agree the bootup animation is from older versions of Android, It's clearly 2.x+ as shown at 1:20 by the lwp, phone app instead of dialer, and a few other apps in the drawer.