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Sym Key not working? Here's the solution...

Okay, this prob got me for some hours:
I updated my Universal from German ROM to latest (original) WWE ROM. After that, I tried all known hacks to put the hardware-keyboard to QWERTZ instead of QWERTY.
HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\Locale=0407
HKCU\keyboard layout\Preload\Default=e0010407
HKCU\keyboard layout\Preload\1\Default=e0010407
HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\Qwerty\Layout=0x20407
Unfortunately, after that, the SYM-Key wasn't working.
Now after trying various things and thinking a lot, I guess I have the answer.
It seems to be important that the first 3 values don't get changed. The Qwerty\Layout is the locale for the hardware keyboard driver and if you change the locales for WM5, too, I guess the scancodes get converted once more and so the SYM-Key doesn't work. After changing the first 3 registry keys back to 409, now everything works fine.
Cheers,
-mARKUS

I did similar modifications to my registry to make it work well with my italian keyboard and I ended with the same problem: the SYM key doesn't work.
I'll try with your solution. Thanks for sharing it!

In your original Ext_ROM, there should be a file called Signed_GER_KB.CAB. Just run that, then the KB is back as it should be. No need to modify the registry. The sym key is controlled by the sym.txt file in your windows folder.

Touch Keyboard/Keypad issue, help required

Hello All, I have the new kitchen rom installed and need a bit of help with the touch keyboard/touch keypad.
When I first start it (say go to programs) and tap on the keyboard symbol I get a nice large standard keyboard with the numbers on top but if I change to any program that requires that requires input the keyboard switches to the XT9 automatically and I can't seem to find a way to disable the XT9 input.
Any ideas????

Hey Iggy, I have a unbranded herald and installed a custom rom with the touch keyboard/touch keypad, and encountered the same exact thing. I wasn't the only one either. I installed the custom rom I was using previously and I didn't have that problem anymore. I think it might be a keyboard bug in that rom you're using. I could be mistaken, but so many people in the herald community forum who installed that particular beta rom experienced that same *annoying* keyboard issue, lol.

Look in the Elf upgrading forum for the original thread by noonski, check on the first page for the link to the fix for switch to xt9 mode (2 letters per key). Just a note if you make the changes to have the full querty stay you will not be able access the other modes, also xt9 will be completely disabled.

Look in the Elf upgrading forum for the original thread by noonski, check on the first page for the link to the fix for switch to xt9 mode (2 letters per key). Just a note if you make the changes to have the full querty stay you will not be able access the other modes, also xt9 will be completely disabled.

aaronsmckee said:
Look in the Elf upgrading forum for the original thread by noonski, check on the first page for the link to the fix for switch to xt9 mode (2 letters per key). Just a note if you make the changes to have the full querty stay you will not be able access the other modes, also xt9 will be completely disabled.
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Thanks aaronsmckee, found that thead yesterday and the reg fix to disable the Xt9 worked perfectly.

having trouble finding original thread
whats the title of the orgin. thread???

found the file, how do i upload it?? Sorry for being a novice!!! Its on my phone, just don't know where exactly i need to place it.

shadeo5 said:
found the file, how do i upload it?? Sorry for being a novice!!! Its on my phone, just don't know where exactly i need to place it.
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look for the HTC Touch keyboard/keypad's cab file version somewhere in the elf/elf upgrading forums and copy it into your ppc. then tap it to install the cab. then use a registry editor and go to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER/keyboard layout /Preload/1
change e0010409 by adding characters like XXXXXe0010409 to disable xt9 and make the HTC Touch 40-key keyboard permanent. (you can revert it back by taking out your added characters) BUT what i found was the landscape view does not contain a spacebar key/button! but portrait mode works flawlessly.

Disable XT9
I used this reg file found in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=344533 it is part of the HTC Touch Keyboard/Keypad file that can be downloaded as a seperate file.

..thanks...
...for you information, now my hardware keyboard is on!!

XT9 Fix released on HTC asia :-D

Well, after I installed it, it doesnt default to Xt9 any more when I go to new messages
Sweet!

can't find this, can you send the link?

this is fantastic!
what ROM are you using ? will this work with any ROM (and ROM language) ?
i would appreciate the link also!

here is the cab file, it's actually just a registry setting fix.
HTC-DUAL-TOUCH-XT9-TO-ABC-FIX
The registry concerned is:
Code:
[HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME]
CarrierDefaultTextMode=dword:0
(0 for ABC / 1 for XT9)
A friend gave me this link as I am also having a problem with the HTC site.
Enjoy!

oh my god it works !!!!
i cant believe how simple that was !!! thank you so much for the registry entry, i can use my phone to text again !!!

it's great!
this was the most anoying thing on my new dual.
tx a lot,
pirlone

Doesn't work for me
in fact it screws my device up!.. it shows the ABC being as the default input, but I can only type the first letter in each key, multiple presses just repeats the same letter
I guess I will have to reflash the OS.. otherwise I now cant use the text input on the keypad anymore!

works on mine. thanks, dtm for letting me know about this.

Maybe doesnt work on mine becos Im running the WM6.1 Nikki project OS ??
Anyone else that has installed this using this Version?

Can you help me? I am begiiner having Dual 2 days. XT9 is really anoying esp for NON english users.But I cannot fix it as it is described. Can you show me step by step what to do? Thanks

It does not work for me!
muzikfreakah said:
Well, after I installed it, it doesnt default to Xt9 any more when I go to new messages
Sweet!
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Please help me. I am a new user having Dual 2nd day. I was trying to install it but it does not work. Can you describe step by step for the beginner what to do? XT9 is realy anoying esp for NON english users.

Hi, just copy the cab to the phone and install it. Maybe you need to softreset your Niki. (open the battery case, the reset button is left to the USB connector).
Cheers
Michael

I love this and it is working well for me. My only issue is when using the touch keypad software, when you type it highlights the letters and take a few micro seconds to move to the next so if I am typing a sentence, and press space,it deletes that entire word or atleast the last few letters that I typed :-( So the only way to solve this is not text that fast or use the hardware keypad.

Wow I noticed so many people reposting this when this was posted a long time ago.
Anyway, just wanted to confirm this is working on my wifes elf also

Finally there's something to kill XT9

Change Mode from ABC to XT9 or XT9 to ABC.
Hey everyone!
First, I wanted to start out thanking muzikfreakah for the link to the .cab file and the posting the Registry path that needs to be modified. I used these as a base reference for the work I completed on my phone. Instead of wanting to go from XT9 to ABC, I wanted to change my phone from ABC to XT9.
Initially I used PHM Registry Editor to make the necessary change to the Registry value you noted. Shortly thereafter, I updated my ROM to WM 6.1 so I had to reapply the settings manually. This got me thinking. Why not just create a quick .cab file for myself, saving me time in the future. This is exactly what I did!
Attached are two .cab's I created a while back (just never got around to uploading them). The first .cab (SP_Default_ABC_To_XT9.cab) modifies the appropriate Registry Key, setting it to 1 (defaulting to XT9). The second .cab (SP_Default_XT9_To_ABC.cab) does just the opposite, changing the value to 0 (defaulting to ABC).
Final notes before I part -
File Sizes: The file size of each of my .cab's is 1.07 KB, as it only contains the necessary Registry Key change. The link muzikfreakah provided brings you to "HTC+Touch+Dual-default-ABC.cab". This file size is 20.76 KB, as it appears to use a more complex method of making the necessary Registry changes.​Company and Application Name: After my .cab is installed, it will display in the Installed Programs list as "Seth_Polley Default_XT9_To_ABC" (or vice versa depending on .cab used). After installing the other .cab (HTC+Touch+Dual-default-ABC.cab), the following is displayed in the Programs list: "Customization Customize_Tool".​
In summary, either file will work for changing from XT9 to ABC. While 20.76 KB is nothing by today's standards, you can go smaller yet by using my .cab's (about 1/20th of the file size). Additionally, my .cab's provide a more descriptive name in the Programs list. Pick your poison! To 'install' the Registry modification, simply move the .cab to your phone, execute it, and follow the prompts.
Feel free to PM me if you have difficulties accessing/downloading the files. If you are concerned about using my files, feel free to open the .cab (can use an application like WinRAR) and review the contained "_setup.xml" file to verify this .cab will only make the changes I noted above.
Best Regards,
Seth
[Verizon HTC Touch (xv6900), currently running WM 6.1]
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muzikfreakah said:
here is the cab file, it's actually just a registry setting fix.
HTC-DUAL-TOUCH-XT9-TO-ABC-FIX
The registry concerned is:
Code:
[HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME]
CarrierDefaultTextMode=dword:0
(0 for ABC / 1 for XT9)
A friend gave me this link as I am also having a problem with the HTC site.
Enjoy!
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Thanks ))

Thanx Man, I´ve searched this simple thing so long time...

Cheers Mate!!
I can now send SMS's again after unlocking!!
Simon

Keyboard problem in 6.5

Hi, guys. I am trying to cook my own ROM for wm6.5. The Problem is I can't change the default keyboard to another keyboard input. Editing the reg in [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip] to another keyboard input make the ROM not bootable. Installing SIPchanger also not solve the problem. Is there any other way to forcefully change the default keyboard input??

You do it by changing the guid in the defaultIM reg key; you also need the clsid for the new sip. Let me say, I had a ***** of a time getting it to work w/ resco keyboard (worked fine w/ fnkbd). The key is to set the defaulIM key during customization, otherwise the rom won't boot. The skin files need to be installed before that key is loaded. With fnkbd, you'd just get an error when the welcomehead appeared (annoying) if the defaultIM was cooked in. But with Resco, you never see your bloody welcomehead. I'm not eve sure that the read letters appear on the splash screen.
I set the defaultIM during customization with a mortscript:
Code:
RegWriteString("HKCU","\ControlPanel\Sip","DefaultIM","{A070BE16-AD56-11D3-BC77-00C06C512035}")
It runs after the skin files are installed (also with a mortscript during customization). Again, it's important that the clsid for the keyboard is cooked in, otherwise the rom will brick when you soft reset it. Once the defaultIM is set, you don't need a sipchanger, and reboots are quick
Edit: it's always a good idea to put in all relevant info if you really want help. What keyboard? What sipchanger? What's your package look like? Did you make it yourself? Did you do it manually, or use a cab-2-oem type tool, which probably crapped everything up? My guess is that you used cab-2-oem, but that there was a setup.dll that installs the clsid for the keyboard, and you didn't get that reg key, so now your package doesn't work. I suspect this because it's weird that sipchange isn't working for you-this is probably because you don't have the clsid (you put the shortcut in Startup, right?). Cab-2-oem type deals are not a reliable method to make packages.

* key does not work like on Dash/S620

I used to be able to press the * (asterisk) key on my old dash/excalibur phone to toggle full screen in apps such as slingplayer.
But I have noticed that the * key on my new HTC Snap (s522) is not recognized by many apps. On my S522, the asterisk is a "alt+" function, but even if I press the ALT key first, then the "A" key (which has the * on it to), the app wont recognize it.
I also found that when playing doom4ce, when you try to exit by pressing the "Y" key to the Prompt "Exit", it also will not work
Can anyone give me any clues as to how to fix this - such as modifying some keymap file?
If so, what is the name of this keyboard file and where is it located?
Any tips on how to modify it would be greatly appreciated!

JohnCody said:
I used to be able to press the * (asterisk) key on my old dash/excalibur phone to toggle full screen in apps such as slingplayer.
But I have noticed that the * key on my new HTC Snap (s522) is not recognized by many apps. On my S522, the asterisk is a "alt+" function, but even if I press the ALT key first, then the "A" key (which has the * on it to), the app wont recognize it.
I also found that when playing doom4ce, when you try to exit by pressing the "Y" key to the Prompt "Exit", it also will not work
Can anyone give me any clues as to how to fix this - such as modifying some keymap file?
If so, what is the name of this keyboard file and where is it located?
Any tips on how to modify it would be greatly appreciated!
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What rom are U running? If you are running 3vo custom rom, keymapping is built in just need to enable it (english UK, USA....etc) if you are not. Check the sticky (Rom Dev. Section) you will find a tutorial over there.
I hope that helps

Mr. Clown said:
What rom are U running? If you are running 3vo custom rom, keymapping is built in just need to enable it (english UK, USA....etc) if you are not. Check the sticky (Rom Dev. Section) you will find a tutorial over there.
I hope that helps
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Hey Mr. Clown,
Thanks a bunch for that tip!
I just tried to modify the txt file as per the tutorial, but no luck I'll keep figiting some more and maybe I'll get lucky...
-John

JohnCody said:
Hey Mr. Clown,
Thanks a bunch for that tip!
I just tried to modify the txt file as per the tutorial, but no luck I'll keep figiting some more and maybe I'll get lucky...
-John
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Ok, you can search in the windows mobile hacking forums and see if you an easier tutorial over there.
I hope you solve your problem