Sym Key not working? Here's the solution... - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Okay, this prob got me for some hours:
I updated my Universal from German ROM to latest (original) WWE ROM. After that, I tried all known hacks to put the hardware-keyboard to QWERTZ instead of QWERTY.
HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\Locale=0407
HKCU\keyboard layout\Preload\Default=e0010407
HKCU\keyboard layout\Preload\1\Default=e0010407
HKLM\SOFTWARE\OEM\Qwerty\Layout=0x20407
Unfortunately, after that, the SYM-Key wasn't working.
Now after trying various things and thinking a lot, I guess I have the answer.
It seems to be important that the first 3 values don't get changed. The Qwerty\Layout is the locale for the hardware keyboard driver and if you change the locales for WM5, too, I guess the scancodes get converted once more and so the SYM-Key doesn't work. After changing the first 3 registry keys back to 409, now everything works fine.
Cheers,
-mARKUS

I did similar modifications to my registry to make it work well with my italian keyboard and I ended with the same problem: the SYM key doesn't work.
I'll try with your solution. Thanks for sharing it!

In your original Ext_ROM, there should be a file called Signed_GER_KB.CAB. Just run that, then the KB is back as it should be. No need to modify the registry. The sym key is controlled by the sym.txt file in your windows folder.

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Fixing German QWERTZ keyboard for O2miniS with O2 EnglishROM

Fixing German QWERTZ keyboard layout for O2 miniS with English ROM installed is very simple.
Many nomally use AEKmap, but this is not allways fine for somebody.
Now we need a small registry hack.
1. Use a registry editor like total commander.
2. Go to \HKCU(HK Current User)\ControlPanel\Keybd\Locale.
3. Change the value of the key "Locale" from "0809" to "0407". "0407" is the locale ID for Standard German. You can find other Locale ID suitable for you at: http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/winxp/xp-lcid.mspx.
4. Do a soft reset and enjoy. All the keys and symbols have fixed right.
Hope this help someone.[/list]
wooooooow!!
That's good.
I will try that NOW
Well I don't see any Locale folder under Keybd...
What next?
cizake said:
Well I don't see any Locale folder under Keybd...
What next?
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Dear cizake,
"Locale" is not a folder. This is a key, locating under the folder "Keybd". We have to change the value of this key. Check the path again, pls.
Hope this help.
I cannot change the vaule, I use PHM Registry editor, after soft reset, the vaule back to 0804,not 0407.....why??
sim1 said:
I cannot change the vaule, I use PHM Registry editor, after soft reset, the vaule back to 0804,not 0407.....why??
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I have no idea. I am using total commander. This is free at here http://www.ghisler.com/pocketpc.htm.
1. Check your programs that running each time you start windows at \windows\startup\. If they change keyboard settings.
2. After changing the registry key value. Do the soft reset by this way: Hold down the power button for ~5 seconds. When being asked to turn off the device, tap Yes. This will completly turn off the device and save the changes in registry. This method may different from taping the stylus to the reset hole.
I dont see Locale either .... would really appreciate any help on changing :
a) software keyboard layout and
b) hardware keyboard layout
pencilcase said:
I dont see Locale either .... would really appreciate any help on changing :
a) software keyboard layout and
b) hardware keyboard layout
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Check the path again:
The folder: \\\Registry\\HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\
The key: Locale.
If you do not see the folder. Create a new folder "Keybd", then create a new key with name "Locale".
I thing this may help.
This is a fix for hardware (real) keyboard only.
Cool. For AZERTY keyboards the value is 040C. My ROM version didn't have Locale value in the HKC\ControlPanel\Keybd, I had to create one myself. It has to be String value, not DWORD. Thank you for great hack.
GUYS! YOUR ARE GREAT!!!
Works perfect with Eng for Russian Keyboard (Russian code is 0419). Now I can switch between Russian and English
yes can confirm 0809 works a treat for english keyboard, thanks!!
Sweet!
Yup! works a treat. Have now changed WM 5 from french to English (which gave me the english keyboard problem) and thanks to you changed the keyboard layout to French. Brilliant. By the way, where could i get the new qtek 9100 ROM 1.6 WWE?
Sorry, but this nice solution is not working after upgrading to 1.6.7.1
This entry in the Registry does not exit anymore. I can only find things whichhave the value "e0010409" for english keyboard and i want to get back my german one. Has anybody that number?
Check again kbaasch
Check the path again:
The folder: \\\Registry\\HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\
The key: Locale.
If you do not see the folder. Create a new folder "Keybd", then create a new key with name "Locale".
I thing this may help.
This is a fix for hardware (real) keyboard only.
my keyboard is now ok
oainot
Its works fine, thanks.
I have T-Mobile MDA Vario from German, I have flashed it with ROM: 1.6.7.1 WWE
And, with reg file my keyboard is now ok.
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd]
"Locale"="0407"
MrBuz
Great, stunning solution! Thank you! This is absolutely BRILLIANT !
I have 1.6.7.1 WWE and Russian layout works perfectly...
But the English now lacks a "comma", as the combination "dot+comma" is assigned by the system to switch between layouts.
Is there any solution to re-assign the layout sequence, or to assign "Shift+comma" to print comma (currently Shift does not have any influence on that button on my system...)
Awesome solution.Works like a charm. Can not imaging a better solution. A++++
Fixed permanently?
Cool!
Will this work after hard reset? If not, anyone dare to create a new ROM so that we can flash it and fix it permanently?
Rocks!
hello
I have qwertz keyboard and italian rom
which value i must insert?
tnks a lot
i can try to insert locale key, but when i do soft reset locale it became a directory...
why? i don't understand
the page where i sow the references is because the other doesn't work
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/win2k/setup/lcid.mspx

XT9 Fix released on HTC asia :-D

Well, after I installed it, it doesnt default to Xt9 any more when I go to new messages
Sweet!
can't find this, can you send the link?
this is fantastic!
what ROM are you using ? will this work with any ROM (and ROM language) ?
i would appreciate the link also!
here is the cab file, it's actually just a registry setting fix.
HTC-DUAL-TOUCH-XT9-TO-ABC-FIX
The registry concerned is:
Code:
[HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME]
CarrierDefaultTextMode=dword:0
(0 for ABC / 1 for XT9)
A friend gave me this link as I am also having a problem with the HTC site.
Enjoy!
oh my god it works !!!!
i cant believe how simple that was !!! thank you so much for the registry entry, i can use my phone to text again !!!
it's great!
this was the most anoying thing on my new dual.
tx a lot,
pirlone
Doesn't work for me
in fact it screws my device up!.. it shows the ABC being as the default input, but I can only type the first letter in each key, multiple presses just repeats the same letter
I guess I will have to reflash the OS.. otherwise I now cant use the text input on the keypad anymore!
works on mine. thanks, dtm for letting me know about this.
Maybe doesnt work on mine becos Im running the WM6.1 Nikki project OS ??
Anyone else that has installed this using this Version?
Can you help me? I am begiiner having Dual 2 days. XT9 is really anoying esp for NON english users.But I cannot fix it as it is described. Can you show me step by step what to do? Thanks
It does not work for me!
muzikfreakah said:
Well, after I installed it, it doesnt default to Xt9 any more when I go to new messages
Sweet!
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Please help me. I am a new user having Dual 2nd day. I was trying to install it but it does not work. Can you describe step by step for the beginner what to do? XT9 is realy anoying esp for NON english users.
Hi, just copy the cab to the phone and install it. Maybe you need to softreset your Niki. (open the battery case, the reset button is left to the USB connector).
Cheers
Michael
I love this and it is working well for me. My only issue is when using the touch keypad software, when you type it highlights the letters and take a few micro seconds to move to the next so if I am typing a sentence, and press space,it deletes that entire word or atleast the last few letters that I typed :-( So the only way to solve this is not text that fast or use the hardware keypad.
Wow I noticed so many people reposting this when this was posted a long time ago.
Anyway, just wanted to confirm this is working on my wifes elf also
Finally there's something to kill XT9
Change Mode from ABC to XT9 or XT9 to ABC.
Hey everyone!
First, I wanted to start out thanking muzikfreakah for the link to the .cab file and the posting the Registry path that needs to be modified. I used these as a base reference for the work I completed on my phone. Instead of wanting to go from XT9 to ABC, I wanted to change my phone from ABC to XT9.
Initially I used PHM Registry Editor to make the necessary change to the Registry value you noted. Shortly thereafter, I updated my ROM to WM 6.1 so I had to reapply the settings manually. This got me thinking. Why not just create a quick .cab file for myself, saving me time in the future. This is exactly what I did!
Attached are two .cab's I created a while back (just never got around to uploading them). The first .cab (SP_Default_ABC_To_XT9.cab) modifies the appropriate Registry Key, setting it to 1 (defaulting to XT9). The second .cab (SP_Default_XT9_To_ABC.cab) does just the opposite, changing the value to 0 (defaulting to ABC).
Final notes before I part -
File Sizes: The file size of each of my .cab's is 1.07 KB, as it only contains the necessary Registry Key change. The link muzikfreakah provided brings you to "HTC+Touch+Dual-default-ABC.cab". This file size is 20.76 KB, as it appears to use a more complex method of making the necessary Registry changes.​Company and Application Name: After my .cab is installed, it will display in the Installed Programs list as "Seth_Polley Default_XT9_To_ABC" (or vice versa depending on .cab used). After installing the other .cab (HTC+Touch+Dual-default-ABC.cab), the following is displayed in the Programs list: "Customization Customize_Tool".​
In summary, either file will work for changing from XT9 to ABC. While 20.76 KB is nothing by today's standards, you can go smaller yet by using my .cab's (about 1/20th of the file size). Additionally, my .cab's provide a more descriptive name in the Programs list. Pick your poison! To 'install' the Registry modification, simply move the .cab to your phone, execute it, and follow the prompts.
Feel free to PM me if you have difficulties accessing/downloading the files. If you are concerned about using my files, feel free to open the .cab (can use an application like WinRAR) and review the contained "_setup.xml" file to verify this .cab will only make the changes I noted above.
Best Regards,
Seth
[Verizon HTC Touch (xv6900), currently running WM 6.1]
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muzikfreakah said:
here is the cab file, it's actually just a registry setting fix.
HTC-DUAL-TOUCH-XT9-TO-ABC-FIX
The registry concerned is:
Code:
[HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\IME]
CarrierDefaultTextMode=dword:0
(0 for ABC / 1 for XT9)
A friend gave me this link as I am also having a problem with the HTC site.
Enjoy!
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Thanks ))
Thanx Man, I´ve searched this simple thing so long time...
Cheers Mate!!
I can now send SMS's again after unlocking!!
Simon

can't change querty to quertz

hi
yesterday i hardreseted my BA and since then i have not been able to change the softkeyboard to the german layout.
i changed the registry entry "layout" in HKLM\software\oem\querty to 132105 but even after about 40 softresets nothing changed.
whats especially strange is that pcmkeyboard though i chose the azerty/quertz layout is also querty.
is there anything i forgot? as far as i remember the registry trick worked fine last time.
(i am using sundreams wm6.1 rom)
thx
--fleity
no no no man!
you need to search download and isntall this:
1.- Netcompact frameworks v3 (or newer)
2.- Advanced Config v2 (or newer)
3.- Searching time
hope this works... cause advanced config change the keyboard to many other lang i use qwertz cause my keyboard is german.
Did you get the german keyboard somehow?
I still use the patch from ZakMcRofl, it switches the hardware keyboard to german and adds an additional German soft-keyboard. It would be better to have the standard keyboard switched to German, though, instead of adding an new one.
Whate ever you want
if this works for you FINE! if works better yours Fine TOO!
Keep the good support.
It works, but as I wrote it would be better to use the standard keyboard in german. Now I have two soft-keyboards: english and german. Is there a solution without installing the .Net v3?
i get an error when installing netcfv35.wmmarv4i.cab. do i have the wrong file?
the installation runs until the end and then the following error appears (of course in german... though my rom is in english):
Installationerror.
Shut down all tasks and processes, maximize the available storage and run the installation again. supportinformation: 3
after pressing ok the normal "you have to restart the device to complete installation. ok to restart, cancel to continue" message is displayed.
but netcf is not installed
i choose to install it on the device.
are there seperate version for different languages? link to english and german version?
when you set the hardware keyboard to another language, exit the registry editor, then turn off the device with the power button (not softreset, not hardreset) turn it back on and THEN softreset.
I did that a few hours back and it worked like a charm.
The Device first has to write the contents into the database, it is NOT immediately saved after you exit the Registry Editor.
I found that one out after I restored my Blue Angel to an older ROM after I tried WM6.5 by xplode.
My Messages went missing after I restored them and made a softreset.
When you restore something, or change something in the Registry, it gets saved in RAM, but not written until you set the device to sleep and wake it up again.
no sorry still the same problem.
i tried to change it to the french layout and even after sleep, turn on, softreset the reg value is really the one for the french layout but still its querty nothing else...
it's like the rom is using another registry value, no matter what i write in there nothing changes

Tilt2HWKeyboard.cab

Hi all:
Seeking some help regarding the keyboard fix for tilt2. It was working fine for me when I use one of the official EUR 6.5 ROMs. I just flashed to a 6.5 WWE Hong Kong ROM with CHT and the cab is not working. I believe possibly because of the different IME for Chinese or the newer version of the ROM?
Instead of a cab is there some keys I can change/add to registry to fix that problem? It's driving me crazy not able to type properly...
Thanks in advance!!
I eneded up using the hwkeyboard cab to get the right FN and shift key....then I added takrim's keyboard control and reassigned all the keys to the correct place. Here's the XML file you can load to get all the keys...unzip and open keyboard config -> load -> and choose the xml file.
thanks for the xml, im having an issue with my numbers and symbols not working and this one seemed to remap it correctly when i put it into the keyboard config. However, the OK button is the FN button, and the FN button is caps lock, and im not sure what the capslock/shift button does (but it doesn't do anything when i press it)! . Is there a way to swap them in the config? i tried to do it myself but could only find how to create a rule and i dont think thats correct. Thanks!
install Toleraen's Tilt2KWKeyboard cab....for my initial testing it fix the FN and shift key but nothing else...
so now I have both the hwkeyboard cab installed - to fix FN and shift. Then use keyboard config + my XML for the rest.
Give it a try
Again. All the stuff you need.
I have downloaded these three files, but I do not know how to load them into my Tilt2. They don't unzip to .cab files. Could anyone help me with some instructions here?
Thanks in advance
RQDHD2 cab
Iam now using this fix and it worked for me and i can still sync with outlook
When i use HW keybord SIP keybord wil also hide
Works beautifully, thanks!
I got to modify your 'Keyboardconfig.xml" one-by-one as it is not working for mine. This may due to different ROM version. Anyway, attached my copy of .xml file & I'm using WME version of ROM. Hope this help those having same problem.

Keyboard problem in 6.5

Hi, guys. I am trying to cook my own ROM for wm6.5. The Problem is I can't change the default keyboard to another keyboard input. Editing the reg in [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip] to another keyboard input make the ROM not bootable. Installing SIPchanger also not solve the problem. Is there any other way to forcefully change the default keyboard input??
You do it by changing the guid in the defaultIM reg key; you also need the clsid for the new sip. Let me say, I had a ***** of a time getting it to work w/ resco keyboard (worked fine w/ fnkbd). The key is to set the defaulIM key during customization, otherwise the rom won't boot. The skin files need to be installed before that key is loaded. With fnkbd, you'd just get an error when the welcomehead appeared (annoying) if the defaultIM was cooked in. But with Resco, you never see your bloody welcomehead. I'm not eve sure that the read letters appear on the splash screen.
I set the defaultIM during customization with a mortscript:
Code:
RegWriteString("HKCU","\ControlPanel\Sip","DefaultIM","{A070BE16-AD56-11D3-BC77-00C06C512035}")
It runs after the skin files are installed (also with a mortscript during customization). Again, it's important that the clsid for the keyboard is cooked in, otherwise the rom will brick when you soft reset it. Once the defaultIM is set, you don't need a sipchanger, and reboots are quick
Edit: it's always a good idea to put in all relevant info if you really want help. What keyboard? What sipchanger? What's your package look like? Did you make it yourself? Did you do it manually, or use a cab-2-oem type tool, which probably crapped everything up? My guess is that you used cab-2-oem, but that there was a setup.dll that installs the clsid for the keyboard, and you didn't get that reg key, so now your package doesn't work. I suspect this because it's weird that sipchange isn't working for you-this is probably because you don't have the clsid (you put the shortcut in Startup, right?). Cab-2-oem type deals are not a reliable method to make packages.

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